• 11-15-2012
    GnarBrahWyo
    Never judge a rider by their appearance!
    My first mountain bike ride was when I was 22 (I am 29 now) in college. I went up on a group ride with a buddy. I remember seeing mainly 40 somethings and 50 somethings at the trailhead. Many had beer bellies and looked out of shape. Flash forward two hours later when I am getting smoked on the trail and nearly vomiting all over the trail.

    Since then I have progressed immensley. I have built up endurance, speed and leg strength. So when I was invited to go on a trip to Moab with three guys old enough to be my Dad I naively though "Ok, well should be a cakewalk since they are so old", these dudes wore me and my buddy (same age) out the whole week.

    I sometimes am impressed by how many beer-bellied, awkward looking guys/gals at the trail can shred so hard. Many of these types have cheaper bikes than most and don't insist on wearing the expensive lycra and name brand shoes.

    So next time you see someone who looks out of place on the trail, he/she might just shred harder than you think!

    Any similar stories out there?
  • 11-15-2012
    habsfan
    I think we all probably do.

    In my circle of riders, they range from hammerheads to fat to 70+ years old and the vast majority hammer unbelievably. The 70 year old hammered up a rock trail that i could only clear in a wet dream. :p

    I learned long ago never to make judgments on any rider.
  • 11-15-2012
    jeffscott
    I generally take a look at a guys gut....

    Then I line them up from fastest to slowest...

    Usually pretty accurate...we got a lot of ascending to do around here.
  • 11-15-2012
    Gasp4Air
    I don't have a gut and I suck at endurance. Maybe growing one would help. Hmmmm.:idea:
  • 11-15-2012
    GnarBrahWyo
    Gut and speed do have a correlation but a lack of gut doesn't mean they are fast or a good rider. Ever ridden with a smoker? Or a naturally skinny guy who has an ideal mountain biking physique but is just out of shape? I have seen fatties detroy skinny guys on the trail many times.
  • 11-15-2012
    GnarBrahWyo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gasp4Air View Post
    I don't have a gut and I suck at endurance. Maybe growing one would help. Hmmmm.:idea:

    Might be good for energy reserves? Like 20lbs of hammer gels? I am pretty average weight, but I ridden with some beer-bellied dudes who weren't super fast but could ride all day just fine. Lungs and legs can be pretty strong on them.
  • 11-15-2012
    AZ
    I'm a lot slower than I appear.
  • 11-15-2012
    Spinning Lizard
    It happens to me all the time. I am mid 40's but race Cat 1 open class mostly. Anytime I ride, that is not a race, I usually wear baggies, BMX shoes and an AM helmet. I do not shave my legs ever and show up on a 6" travel Ventana El Chucho. On the group rides there are always some 20 year old guys wanting to be the fastest up a climb and I will just sit right in. Get to the top and they turn around and are stunned I am there not even breathing hard.

    Occasionally someone else shows up and does the same to me and I am like WTF, lol.
  • 11-15-2012
    baker
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by az.mtns View Post
    i'm a lot slower than i appear.

    hahaha!
  • 11-15-2012
    likeaboss
    Going riding with my older brother and his friend next week and will likely get smoked. I am 46 and he is 50. He is very lean though and has a lot more time to ride than I do.

    I feel better now that I have justified my failure!
  • 11-15-2012
    perttime
    Beware the guy on the "that's not a MTB"

  • 11-15-2012
    EZuphill
    Op. I had the same story as you! I was shocked and their legs were like pistons. I was amazed!

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  • 11-15-2012
    A-Ray
    My buddy Tom (who was a cat 1 racer and former pro BMX guy) actually showed up to a ride with his
    old 20" BMX race bike (his mountain bike was in the shop). He resembled Charles Manson and looked like a slob with a nasty old looking concert AC/DC t-shirt, dirty jeans, and ripped up old sneakers... Anyway, after all of the "new guys" that did not know him were done laughing and talking crap about how ridiculous he looked and how the ride was going to suck, it did not take long for them to drop their jaws in amazement. Tom intentionally started in the back of the group, but once we hit the first nasty climb he blew by everyone like they weren't even moving, passing people through the woods. I knew how fast he was on a mountain bike, and I honestly had no idea that he was going to blow our doors in like he did on an 80's BMX bike. He led the rest of the ride. To this day I still have no idea how he totally embarrassed us, as most of us at the time were decent riders, or so we thought....
  • 11-15-2012
    OldMTBfreak
    Ok, GBW you are pretty close. I'm 65, been riding for 30 years. I love it. I ride with name brand shoes, because I have tried riding in other types. They all sucked! You would love my current setup. Shoes $275, orthothodics $450 (carbon fiber BTW), my visits to doctor meh, $25 copays. Maybe 5 visits. All this time and money for only one reason. I want to be able to ride my bike(s). I can hear my Reign calling to me as I type this. Later, James
  • 11-15-2012
    GnarBrahWyo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OldMTBfreak View Post
    Ok, GBW you are pretty close. I'm 65, been riding for 30 years. I love it. I ride with name brand shoes, because I have tried riding in other types. They all sucked! You would love my current setup. Shoes $275, orthothodics $450 (carbon fiber BTW), my visits to doctor meh, $25 copays. Maybe 5 visits. All this time and money for only one reason. I want to be able to ride my bike(s). I can hear my Reign calling to me as I type this. Later, James

    For me? XC running shoe: $45, Nike gym shorts: $30, Ratty old t-shirt: $10, Bike $3400.:)
  • 11-15-2012
    freighttrainuphill
    I don't remember where I saw this, but years ago I read about a guy on a MTB who likes to "lay waste to the roadies in the Marin Headlands". The poster referred to the guy as a "freak" because he was faster than the roadies even though he was riding a mountain bike.

    I wanted to give that rider some major kudos, not make fun of him! :thumbsup:
  • 11-15-2012
    bsieb
    I wear a Belly Bandit under my jersey just to fool youthful riders into thinking I'm some lamo skinny rider. Then I smoke them. ;)

    Belly Bandit Video | Classic Shapewear
  • 11-15-2012
    DirtyHank
    These two gents were a pleasure to talk to. They had been to places and altitudes I can only dream of doing someday.



    and yes, they smoked me on the way back up,

    Hank :)
  • 11-15-2012
    Barheet
    I rode with an older guy earlier this summer. It was my first time riding with someone at least 10 years older than me. We went along some flat ground for awhile and then got to a steep hill. He took off so fast up the hill that I was stunned. I was so surprised I forgot to shift and ended up stalling out on the hill and had to walk up it. By the time I got to the top, he wasn't even visible on the other side. Lesson learned.
  • 11-15-2012
    howardyudoing
    objects in mirror are closer than they appear.
  • 11-15-2012
    2ridealot
    I am an over 50 year old amputee. I think some riders think I should be struggling more than I do. When I use to ride with a 74 year old hombre, the 2 of us would get a lot of comments (all very positive). btw, I am not fast or slow...just steady.

    A couple years ago I met a guy named Hank at the trailhead and ended up riding with him. He was built just like Family Guy and could absolutely shred! I for sure judged him incorrectly .
  • 11-15-2012
    likeaboss
    How about getting smoked by the fairer sex?

    A friend wanted to ride with our group. When he found out that the wives were going, he said he was going to bring his son on the Weeride. He ended up not bringing his son and then my wife smoked him up and down the trail. Good thing he left junior home!
  • 11-15-2012
    Tystevens
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GnarBrahWyo View Post
    For me? XC running shoe: $45, Nike gym shorts: $30, Ratty old t-shirt: $10, Bike $3400.:)

    Sounds about like me most of the time when I hit the trail!

    I'm often the guy you're talking about. Well, not on the climbs -- at 6' and 245#, I climb about like I look like I would. But not many can keep up with me on the downhill side of things. I get comments frequently from surprised kids at a bike park or resort or riding a busy mostly downhill oriented trail (eg Whole Enchilada). Same thing happens playing bball at the gym or something like that.

    I might look fat and out of shape, but I still have the balance, coordination, and and so forth of a 3-sport letterman!
  • 11-15-2012
    joshh
    I quickly figured out that mountain biking is like racquet ball. Don't mess with the old guy that looks out of shape. They will wax you up and down the court (or trail).
  • 11-15-2012
    oldbroad
    Ha! I'm an older gal and don't have a beer gut and I don't think I look awkward, but I do have a big butt :D


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  • 11-15-2012
    AZ
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by likeaboss View Post
    How about getting smoked by the fairer sex?

    A friend wanted to ride with our group. When he found out that the wives were going, he said he was going to bring his son on the Weeride. He ended up not bringing his son and then my wife smoked him up and down the trail. Good thing he left junior home!




    Almost everyone has been "chicked", that or their lying. :D
  • 11-15-2012
    zrm
    The only people I judge by what they're wearing is the people who I don't like what they're wearing.
  • 11-15-2012
    GnarBrahWyo
    I have noticed the big dudes can go downhill with the most wreckless abandon. Old man strength is advantageous in mountain biking too haha.
  • 11-15-2012
    mudhen
    I'm sneaky slow....

    mudhen
  • 11-15-2012
    DirtyHank
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by likeaboss View Post
    How about getting smoked by the fairer sex?

    A friend wanted to ride with our group. When he found out that the wives were going, he said he was going to bring his son on the Weeride. He ended up not bringing his son and then my wife smoked him up and down the trail. Good thing he left junior home!

    On a group ride, a older gentleman I was riding with was heard to say "You know you're having a bad day when a girl in a Barbie Helmet passes you up". I have to laugh everytime I think about it..



    Hank :D
  • 11-15-2012
    moofish
    I went on a 65Km road ride on my MTB recently and was passed by lots of old men old women really fit kids on $10000 road bikes and finally by a guy with only one leg. I also learnt that some chicks have huge butts because they have massive thigh muscles. I learnt not to judge any riders skills by their looks. No matter how good you are there is always someone around to make you look ridiculous. For me thats quite easy.(the amputee was a paralympian I found out later)
  • 11-15-2012
    skiahh
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tystevens View Post
    Sounds about like me most of the time when I hit the trail!

    I'm often the guy you're talking about. Well, not on the climbs -- at 6' and 245#, I climb about like I look like I would. But not many can keep up with me on the downhill side of things.

    OFGGDH!! (Old Fat Guys Going Downhill!!)

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joshh View Post
    I quickly figured out that mountain biking is like racquet ball. Don't mess with the old guy that looks out of shape. They will wax you up and down the court (or trail).

    I learned that lesson years ago!! They've figured out how to play a technical game, making you run your ass off while they stay planted in center court. If you can turn the tables on them, though, they're easy prey!
  • 11-15-2012
    huffster
    Respect your elders...they know where all the best trails are!!! :D
  • 11-15-2012
    Pete Otis Towns
    I think we've all had it handed to us by someone who doesn't look the part. Last year I met with my usaul riding partners who brought one of their friends to ride with us. She was in her early 50's and riding a late 80's rock hopper with an elastomer fork. I figured I would be waiting a lot for her at the turns. I figured wrong. It turns out she's a hard core tri athlete and while she never passed me on the uphill she was on my wheel the entire time. i tried my best to shake her but couldn't, and nearly killed myself trying.

    We have since become friends, she now has a bad ass bike and continues to make me suffer every time we ride.
  • 11-15-2012
    GnarBrahWyo
    It's good to have your ego bruised every once in a while
  • 11-15-2012
    emu26
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    OP, you are correct, never judge a book by its cover. Apparently this guy was a national champion
    This mountainbiker is alleged to have assaulted another mountainbiker - YouTube

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  • 11-15-2012
    Ailuropoda
    Ha ha. 49. 235 pounds and not all of it is muscle I'm afraid. I have very expensive bikes but wear cargo pants and four-year-old brown Shimano SPD shoes (bought five pairs). I'm not particularly fast and the younger guys on cheaper bikes pass me often but I'm not that slow and have my moments.

    I seem to have good endurance and twenty mile rides don't wear me out like five mile rides did when I first started. I'm not competing, don't race, and generally ride alone. With that being said I have risen to the occasion and smoked some of my younger friends who don't believe I ride almost every day.
  • 11-15-2012
    Ailuropoda
    I pulled over to let a beautiful, fit, serious-looking young woman on a very nice bike go by. "You're not bad for a girl," I said as she passed.

    She stopped, looked me in the eye and replied, "And you're not too bad for an old, fat guy."

    True love. She went to dinner with me but unfortunately was from out of town.
  • 11-16-2012
    RaptorTC
    The old guys have just had more time to train! Well, at least that's how I justify it when they blow right on by me and crush my times in TT's.
  • 11-16-2012
    jeffw-13
    Last group ride I went on was dominated by a guy on a single speed dirt jump bike with flat pedals and downhill tires. He out climbed and out rode everyone! Very impressed, I was.
  • 11-16-2012
    Excuse4Fun
    This is an awesome. Here I am at 35 years old just now getting into MBR and I'm thinking, "Well I guess I will probably get made fun of because I'm gonna be older than all of the other riders."
    Thanks for the pics and lifting my spirits up. The way you guys make it look I don't think I'll ever be to old to ride.
  • 11-16-2012
    Trail Ninja
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by huffster View Post
    Respect your elders...they know where all the best trails are!!! :D

    That's because we built them.:D
  • 11-16-2012
    guggas
    I have a close friend that I introduced to Mountain biking about 12 years ago, and who is still one of my best riding buddies. For the first few years I was always faster than him. But the tables have turned in recent years, as hard as I try i havnt been able to out ride him lately. I have a pretty new FS race bike with evey component of my build carefully thought out, and I ride at least 3 times a week, I have clipless pedals/ shoes ect and have spent thousands of dollars over the years on cycling equipment. I'm in pretty decent shape as well, but my friend shames me when we ride. He still has his original HT that he that he bought second hand after our first few rides together, he has very heavy wheels/tires and uses heavy duty thorn proof tubes in both his tires that weigh well over a pound each. The other day he showed up to a ride without water and wearing flipflops, and rode with his keyring(that must weigh several pounds clipped to his beltloop) and I still couldnt keep up with him on a 10-mile xc loop.
  • 11-16-2012
    MTBeing
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 2ridealot View Post
    I am an over 50 year old amputee. I think some riders think I should be struggling more than I do. When I use to ride with a 74 year old hombre, the 2 of us would get a lot of comments (all very positive). btw, I am not fast or slow...just steady.

    A couple years ago I met a guy named Hank at the trailhead and ended up riding with him. He was built just like Family Guy and could absolutely shred! I for sure judged him incorrectly .

    We had an amputee podium in a race last weekend. Guy looked younger, maybe 30s but everyone standing nearby me muttered how neat it was to see that. That said, I'm always getting dusted by some 'dope-smoking, hippie single' speeder. I say this with the utmost respect.:p
  • 11-16-2012
    hitechredneck
    Beware of old man strength.
  • 11-16-2012
    norton55
    Great thread! I'm 57, ride a Knolly Endorphine, and the secret to hammering at an old age is this..... drink good beer and it's mind over matter when climbing or attacking a wicked section.

    Kudos to all of us white haired grizzled folks. :thumbsup:
  • 11-16-2012
    GnarBrahWyo
    I have a good story myself: For about 3 years my closest riding buddy has always kicked my butt riding. He had the natural biking physique, 5'9 or so, 150lbs and was very athletic,skinny and strong. Just a real strong rider in general. When we would ride, he would always talk sh*t to me for taking longer than him to get to trail junctions or tops of hills etc. It almost became not fun riding with him because of that. So this last summer I hit the trails hard. I decided to double my normal riding distance and take half the breaks I normally did. I would do 20-30 mile rides on the weekends and 10-15 on weeknights after work.

    This same summer my buddy got into grad school out east. So in July I wanted to do one last trail ride with him. On our ride he started out strong than me (like usual) but about ten miles into the ride he starting bonking and I passed him. The remainder of the ride I was able to smoke him. It bruised his ego when I arrived back at the truck a solid 4 minutes before him. Keep in mind I weigh about 40 more pounds than him too. He was a good sport about it and congratulated me. It was kind of poetic justice that I out-rode him on his last day in Wyoming.

    Now... if I could only pass my other riding buddies who are faster than me!
  • 11-16-2012
    nemebean
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GnarBrahWyo View Post
    For me? XC running shoe: $45, Nike gym shorts: $30, Ratty old t-shirt: $10, Bike $3400.:)

    Old running shoes that would otherwise be in the trash: $0, Random pair of shorts: $30, Random t-shirt: $?? (some were even free!), Bike $600 (plus about half that again in repairs :rolleyes:).

    That said, I am as slow as I look. I think the only time I've ever passed anyone on a trail was a group of 4 or 5, and I kid you not, I get 100 yards down the trail and my chain breaks. :madman:

    I haven't run into too many members of the fairer sex on rides around here, but I did get "chicked" for the first time this summer. Not an unpleasant experience to be honest. ;)
  • 11-16-2012
    Tystevens
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Excuse4Fun View Post
    This is an awesome. Here I am at 35 years old just now getting into MBR and I'm thinking, "Well I guess I will probably get made fun of because I'm gonna be older than all of the other riders."
    Thanks for the pics and lifting my spirits up. The way you guys make it look I don't think I'll ever be to old to ride.

    Well, depends where you ride. On the "regular" trails around here, I feel like I'm about the median age at 37. Particularly in the evenings after usual work hours, I may actually put myself in the young crowd.

    At bike parks, lift-served stuff or freeride stuff, I'm definitely in the top 10% agewise. Although there are a couple gray haired late 40-something guys I've seen at Canyons resort a few times ripping it up as well or better than most of the kids. They do have the look of former professional extreme athletes, though -- can't really explain it, but you bump into those types a lot in Park City, Utah; they seem to go there to retire.
  • 11-16-2012
    Mountain Cycle Shawn
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AZ.MTNS View Post
    I'm a lot slower than I appear.

    Well, that's not good, because you look like a turtle. :D