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    Motorcycle ride through Chernobyl


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddy
    wow, really impressive stuff.

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    Bonking ... not feelin' well Crazy

    Unbelievable
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    Interesting read. Passed it on to the women's motorcycle rider forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddy
    Makes me think about Palos forst preserve, and where it all began (and is still buried there).

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    Sobering ride

    Very interesting. Amazing how many people and families were touched by this.
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    Fascinating..thank you.

    Today is the 25th anniversary of the 3-mile island incident:
    http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...al/8298919.htm

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    Thanks. Interesting read.

    I work with a guy who was involved in the clean up and he has no idea of the radiation exposure he recieved as they weren't monitored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddy
    Fascinating...in a somber sort of way.

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    Very 'awe-inducing'. I can't imagine what it would be like to go through there on your own. It's like something in a movie.

    Interesting that she needed a radiological pass of some kind, is she a Russian scientist too?

    Imagine being one of those town guards...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddy
    Haunting. Found myself walking through buildings today wondering what it would look like in 20-30 years if suddenly abandoned/radiated.

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    wild.

    the photos of all the abandoned vehicles of the people sacrificed (without their knowledge, of course) in the attempt to bring the conflagration under control were the ones that hit me the hardest.

    very sad, and totally avoidable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve3
    This is the link tio a pdf file of the synopsis of what happened. It was avoidable so many times over. Negligence over and over. Those guys disabled safety valves and warning alarms.

    http://www.risoe.dk/rispubl/nuk/nuka.../chernobyl.pdf

    The UK magazine New Scientist had written a small article on the Chernobyl reactor about a year and a half before the incident. It had referenced the test that was going to be performed, and had actually questioned if this was wise from a safety standpoint due to some previous incidents. I kept the mag just because of the irony but it got thieved by another rad-health person at work....

    Unfortunate that it all could have been avoided. But they still didn't learn after the fact. The methods they used to contain some of the radioactive material just made things worse - lets bury waste underground and contaminate our water supply...
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    Very very sobering

    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddy
    Just like someone else mentioned, some what like a movie. But in a movie you dismiss it in the back of your mind as fiction. These photos lend a much more sober and yet surreal feeling to that event. I don't think a movie could ever really come close to the stark reality shown in those pictures. She did a great write up, her comparisons and comments were all spot on, I felt.
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    I had posted this link in Vision about a week ago, and I still go back to read it from time to time.

    The doll with the doll-sized gas mask gets me every time. And the descriptions are fantastic, even in her broken English. One of the best "short stories" I've ever read.

    Come to think of it, another favorite read of mine was a book written by another solo female traveler, Where the Pavement Ends. The author was a newbie bike rider, yet traveled on a regular mountain bike through Asia for a few months.

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    Sorry Steve! I wish I still had it but an old radiation safety officer we had took that magazine with him when he left the company. However I do agree NS is a top notch publication!

    Excerpts from a conversation with another rad health friend of mine on that article you posted - funny how many different accounts there are of the same incident!

    Boy, they sure played it down in this article, excluding the amounts of
    activity onsite today. The article I saw some years ago, done by an
    American-Canadian group, concluded that the area within 40kM of the site
    will be uninhabitable for at least the next 45 years, based on the
    half-lives of the isotopes they found in the dirt.

    The reactor design, one that required >200MW output for proper cooling, was
    similar to the small ones in their submarines that killed 34 sailors from
    exposure incidents. These things could not be run at less than 25% of
    capacity because they used poor heat transfer systems that responded to the
    conducted heat. When the conducted heat was below 800 degrees, the cooling
    system, which was steam-driven, could not generate enough steam to turn the
    turbine pumps that, in turn, fed water. The 800 degrees level was determined
    by the pressure the cooling steam was under: something on the order of
    5,000-9,000 PSI. That's where much of the pressure came from that blew the
    roof off the building, when the steam pipes melted and breached. Reactor
    shutdowns were a scary event, usually generating small earthquakes, because
    the final heat load would not be absorbed at all. When the control rods went
    to full, the sudden drop in electron transfer would sometimes knock
    tranformers off their mounts!

    Geeky but interesting stuff!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddy
    Awesome read Ed, thanks for the link.


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    And a

    two week old, "You're welcome" to you. We'll miss you up in Demo tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddy
    two week old, "You're welcome" to you. We'll miss you up in Demo tomorrow.
    Dude, you don't even know how bad I wanna be there. It snowed here on Wednesday. Have fun dude, bring new tires!

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