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    Not exactly bike related, but I wanted to post up about how extremely happy I am about the LASIK surgery I had yesterday. All I can say, it's one of the best decisions I've ever made. One day after surgery at my follow up, I'm seeing 20/20, almost 20/15, with expectations that I'll be 20/15 within the next week or two as my eyes heal.

    Procedure was painless with just a slight discomfort afterwards once the numbing drops wore off. Vision was hazy but improved throughout the day and this morning when the Dr. removed the protection contact lenses, my vision was crystal clear.

    All I can say it that it's amazing to be able to see perfectly without glasses or contacts and really makes me realize how much I (we) take vision for granted. I'm excited to get out on the trails again and be able to see unassisted and not worry about loosing a contact from too much sweat in my eyes or crashing and loosing/breaking my glasses.

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    Thanks-I've been thinking about having this done for a while! My script is bad enough now that I have to use prescription inserts in my cycling glasses and I hate them! How old are you (I'm 50) and how bad were your eyes? I don't think I can expect to have perfect vision but I would like to have a much weaker script so I can use regular glasses...

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    I had it done in 2008, and I think it improved my cycling, at least to the extent of actually being able to see in varying light conditions, and down trail more than a few feet helps...

    was 20/100 or so, tested at 20/15 "at least" (I read every line on the chart with ease, there wasn't a smaller one to test). My vision now has gotten a little worse than 6 months after surgery, but still 20/20 at least...

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    LASIK is an awesome surgery for the right patient. Just please don't go to the discount chop shop for LASIK. There are a lot of people that should never have LASIK and those places will do almost anyone who walks in the door with money. Go to a doc that can offer other options besides LASIK. Like the saying goes..."If your only tool is a hammer, everything looks like a nail".
    As an eye doc, I've seen my fair share of poorly done LASIK. Some patients see worse after LASIK than before and we can't fix it with glasses or contacts. There are other options for folks with real high prescriptions that can give amazing results as well. Also please understand that there are no guarantees. No one can promise any one 20/20 vision after LASIK. When operating on living tissue, we can't control every variable and the healing process can change things.

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    I agree. This place was definitely not a chop shop. I was given some options in addition to the LASIK. My doctor has been doing the procedure since 1995 I think so I figured he had enough practice, he should be pretty good at it by now...lol

    I'm 37. As far as my eyes, honestly, not sure. They weren't terrible. I think one eye was 20/40 maybe, the other a bit worse and with a moderate astigmatism. My eyes have always been correctable to 20/20 or better with glasses or contacts but it's so much of a relief to not have to rely on anything now. Of course I understand the say may come when I need reading glasses or even a LASIK touch up, but for now and until that time comes, I'm going to thoroughly enjoy my new vision.

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    PRK done in 2000. Still 20/15 and sometimes better. However, I hit the age of reading glasses a few years back, so am back to wearing glasses part time.

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    Thanks for the post, it helped me as I have been hemming and hawing about getting it done. But, since it is all out of pocket for me, ya all think it was well worth the cost? Thanks in advance.

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    Absolutely. Out of pocket for me too. I financed it as much as I hated to, but it was that or not getting it done for a long time. Even though the vision improvement for me wasn't huge since with contacts or glasses I have 20/20 - 20/15 vision, the fact that I don't ever have to wear glasses or mess with annoying uncomfortable contacts is what makes it worth it to me. I love being able to get up in the morning now and blink a few times to get my eyes cleared and go.

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    While not MTB specific this is a very relevant topic to all with vision challenges.
    To me, prescription sunglasses are my most valued piece of gear,
    as without them it's difficult to determine the size of the rock, roots, or rut.
    Too concerned with light sensitivity, I've not considered LASIK, yet have witnessed other's success.
    OP, Glad to hear that you went for it, and hope you gain the superpowers of 20/15 vision.

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    Just FYI, I've not had much issue with light sensitivity. I mean yeah, it's an issue right after surgery and a couple days after however it fades each passing day. I'm now 3 days post-op and really, I can tell very little difference between before and after as far as that is concerned. I'd say in the next day or two, if that long, it will be a completely non-issue. Even the day of surgery, it wasn't anything sunglasses couldn't take care of.

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    Thanks for your post JKA. I have a lot of friends who have had corrective surgery and who rave about it. On the other hand, my uncle's didn't work out all that well, and he can't or won't drive at night anymore. I understand statistics, but... Contacts and glasses can be a pain (especially for backpacking and river trips), but I only have one pair of eyes. I haven't ruled out surgery, but I haven't been compelled to pursue it, either.
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    I wish there was a surgery option for my eyes. I wear a +8 in my right eye, can't see anything but a blur without the contact in. It sucks, but I don't take what little vision I do have for granted, if I were to ever lose it that would surely be the end of my riding. At which point I would shrivel up and die.

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    I have a -5.5 and seriously considering LASIK this year. My work just started offering a payroll financing deal that sounds like just what I've been waiting for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skiahh View Post
    PRK done in 2000. Still 20/15 and sometimes better. However, I hit the age of reading glasses a few years back, so am back to wearing glasses part time.
    I'm in a similar boat. Before the surgery, I was told I might need reading glasses when they were done, but I didn't really listen- I was too excited w/ the prospect of having near 20/20 vision!
    Sadly, that was not to be.
    All I did was trade near-sightedness for far-sightedness. I need reading glasses nearly all the time- at work, the computer is fuzzy without them, when riding, I can't read my Garmin without them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DumbSOB View Post
    Thanks for the post, it helped me as I have been hemming and hawing about getting it done. But, since it is all out of pocket for me, ya all think it was well worth the cost? Thanks in advance.
    I can't answer that one. Mine was done by the Navy when I was on active duty. The cost would have been loss of my flight status if it didn't work out. I was part of a study to determine if laser surgery would be OK for aviators and it is! It was voluntary and, obviously, I thought it was worth the risk since I did it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nubster View Post
    Just FYI, I've not had much issue with light sensitivity. I mean yeah, it's an issue right after surgery and a couple days after however it fades each passing day. I'm now 3 days post-op and really, I can tell very little difference between before and after as far as that is concerned. I'd say in the next day or two, if that long, it will be a completely non-issue. Even the day of surgery, it wasn't anything sunglasses couldn't take care of.
    One thing I learned from that study is that for people with blue eyes, there is slightly increased light sensitivity post surgery. With PRK (vs LASIK), you are VERY light sensitive for the first few days, sitting in a darkened room, with sunglasses on just to watch TV! lol

    Since I have blue eyes, I do have some light sensitivity to this day, but it's not bad and since I wear sunglasses everywhere, it doesn't really affect me.

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    I'm in a similar boat. Before the surgery, I was told I might need reading glasses when they were done, but I didn't really listen- I was too excited w/ the prospect of having near 20/20 vision!
    Sadly, that was not to be.
    All I did was trade near-sightedness for far-sightedness. I need reading glasses nearly all the time- at work, the computer is fuzzy without them, when riding, I can't read my Garmin without them.
    We were told that if - when the time came - we'd need reading glasses, the procedure wouldn't change that. Since most people do as they get older, my turn came a few years ago, about 10 years after my surgery. And, if I'm not tired and have good light, I still don't need them all the time. But it does seem to be getting a bit worse. Oh well. I still don't need them to ride!

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    I got my prk done in 06 and it was amazing. -6.5 to 20/15 in both eyes and remains so to this day. I had to sign some special waivers for the Navy to do it but very worth it. My eyes are still sensitive to light. I wear sunglasses at all times outdoors. My eyes hurt after a whole day out in the desert sun.

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    I got mine done about six months ago, so far, so good! No major issues, at least not related to LASIK (currently dealing with a case of conjunctivitis after being splashed in the face with river water). I did it because I was sick of dealing with glasses/contacts and as I was approaching "over-40-itis" and the need for reading glasses/bifocals. My dad had quite a time with bifocals, something I wanted to avoid. I'm OK with just needing reading glasses from time to time.

    Its nice being out and about, not having to worry about a lens popping out or sliding off my eye!

    Quote Originally Posted by skiahh View Post
    One thing I learned from that study is that for people with blue eyes, there is slightly increased light sensitivity post surgery. With PRK (vs LASIK), you are VERY light sensitive for the first few days, sitting in a darkened room, with sunglasses on just to watch TV! lol

    Since I have blue eyes, I do have some light sensitivity to this day, but it's not bad and since I wear sunglasses everywhere, it doesn't really affect me.
    Another blue eyed person here, I wasn't all that light sensitive before, but I am now. I invested in some nicer, wrap-around type shades... much better than my cheap (that I leave in the car all the time) sunglasses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heyyall View Post
    I have a +5.5 and seriously considering LASIK this year. My work just started offering a payroll financing deal that sounds like just what I've been waiting for.
    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but +5.50 is definitely too high for LASIK. We just don't have anything to offer for that much farsightedness at this time. LASIK would give you crummy vision, lots of glare at night, and would undoubtedly regress significantly over 6-12 months. Stick with contacts for now.

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    For all you guys and gals considering LASIK, PRK, etc., here's a basic guideline that I use.
    No LASIK over about -7.00 or +2.00. The + side is way more difficult to do than the - side.
    Hyperopic (+) corrections will always regress to a degree.
    Astigmatism correction is good up to about 4 diopters of cylinder, but that's a bit variable.
    PRK is best not to go above about -5.00 as it does leave some people with significant light sensitivity and corneal haze. If it's done over about -4.00, some special medicine during surgery can help prevent post-operative haze of the cornea. PRK heals way slower as far as comfort and vision.
    Dry eyes can be problematic for either LASIK or PRK, but more so with LASIK. Chronic dry eyes is a fairly common problem after LASIK and can possibly be a lifetime problem.
    Higher myopic corrections (-6.00 and up) are possibly good candidates for a lens implant know as ICL. These give very good results in high myopes.
    Remember, no surgery is perfect and outcomes can be variable. No one can promise you perfect 20/20 vision without glasses. Many achieve it, but some don't. Patients get ticked when they spend all that money on LASIK and then still have to wear glasses to see as good as they want.

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    I have been considering it for years, but being cautious, I wanted to wait and see how it's working out for people after a few years.
    I just had an acquaintance have it done at Mayo, and he is now blind in the left eye, less than 1% sight in that eye.
    Still, incidents like that are rare, and wouldn't deter me from having it done myself if I felt like dong it.



    QUOTE=JKA;10498837]LASIK is an awesome surgery for the right patient. Just please don't go to the discount chop shop for LASIK. There are a lot of people that should never have LASIK and those places will do almost anyone who walks in the door with money. Go to a doc that can offer other options besides LASIK. Like the saying goes..."If your only tool is a hammer, everything looks like a nail".
    As an eye doc, I've seen my fair share of poorly done LASIK. Some patients see worse after LASIK than before and we can't fix it with glasses or contacts. There are other options for folks with real high prescriptions that can give amazing results as well. Also please understand that there are no guarantees. No one can promise any one 20/20 vision after LASIK. When operating on living tissue, we can't control every variable and the healing process can change things.[/QUOTE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by evasive View Post
    Thanks for your post JKA. I have a lot of friends who have had corrective surgery and who rave about it. On the other hand, my uncle's didn't work out all that well, and he can't or won't drive at night anymore. I understand statistics, but... Contacts and glasses can be a pain (especially for backpacking and river trips), but I only have one pair of eyes. I haven't ruled out surgery, but I haven't been compelled to pursue it, either.
    This is about where I am, too. My contacts are so non-invasive in my life that I don't have a big reason to do anything about it. 10 seconds in the morning to put them in, 5 seconds to take them out, done. Plus I have 20/15 vision with them. In short, I know what I have now and it works well for me, not sure about taking any risk to change it. But good to hear it is working out well for some.
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    A company called Dual makes excellent bifocal sunglasses that work well for cycling. I have some and really like them. No script on the top and various powers available for the lower part. You can also get interchangeable lenses. They are also very affordable. Dual Eyewear Polarized Bifocal Sunglasses - Official Site

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKA View Post
    PRK heals way slower as far as comfort and vision.
    Mine was about 3 days of sitting in the dark with frozen peas on my eyes every couple of hours and some pain killers for the first ~24-36 hours. After about 5 days, no more pain. Vision... well, I couldn't tell, really, because right after the surgery - while my eyes were still numbed - I could see perfectly. Better than perfectly. Then they stuck in the "bandage" contacts and told me to put in the steroids and anti-bacterial. By day 5 those "bandages" were so damn dirty, I could barely see any more! Once they pulled them out, it took another week or so to "polish" (Doc's word) the epithelial cells they removed and after 30 days, I was returned to flight status.

    Just in case someone's considering PRK vs Lasik.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tystevens View Post
    This is about where I am, too. My contacts are so non-invasive in my life that I don't have a big reason to do anything about it. 10 seconds in the morning to put them in, 5 seconds to take them out, done. Plus I have 20/15 vision with them. In short, I know what I have now and it works well for me, not sure about taking any risk to change it. But good to hear it is working out well for some.
    Yeah, generally I would have just stuck with contacts but I have an astigmatism in one eye that made it a real PITA with contacts. No matter what, it seemed I could never get the right contact to work with my eye and I was always messing with it to rotate the lens to the proper orientation. That was a huge reason why I decided to go with the surgery. Now I don't have to worry about it.

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    I have some and really like them. No script on the top and various powers available for the lower part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKA View Post
    For all you guys and gals considering LASIK, PRK, etc., here's a basic guideline that I use.
    No LASIK over about -7.00 or +2.00. The + side is way more difficult to do than the - side.
    Hyperopic (+) corrections will always regress to a degree.
    Astigmatism correction is good up to about 4 diopters of cylinder, but that's a bit variable.
    PRK is best not to go above about -5.00 as it does leave some people with significant light sensitivity and corneal haze. If it's done over about -4.00, some special medicine during surgery can help prevent post-operative haze of the cornea. PRK heals way slower as far as comfort and vision.
    Dry eyes can be problematic for either LASIK or PRK, but more so with LASIK. Chronic dry eyes is a fairly common problem after LASIK and can possibly be a lifetime problem.
    Higher myopic corrections (-6.00 and up) are possibly good candidates for a lens implant know as ICL. These give very good results in high myopes.
    Remember, no surgery is perfect and outcomes can be variable. No one can promise you perfect 20/20 vision without glasses. Many achieve it, but some don't. Patients get ticked when they spend all that money on LASIK and then still have to wear glasses to see as good as they want.
    Ok, you made me curious with these guidelines so I dug out my last eye exam results. (from an optometrist that said I was an "excellent candidate," for LASIK). My "Sphere" is -2.75 and -4.25, "Cylinder is -2.25 and -0.75 and my "add" +1.75 in both. So I think I fall within your parameters, correct? With the caveat that I do have some astigmatism and already wear bifocals. I'm 50 so I don't expect to go without glasses often if at all-I'd just like to get away with a weaker script. And thank you for your informed opinion/advice in this thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKA View Post
    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but +5.50 is definitely too high for LASIK. We just don't have anything to offer for that much farsightedness at this time. LASIK would give you crummy vision, lots of glare at night, and would undoubtedly regress significantly over 6-12 months. Stick with contacts for now.
    I actually goofed. I'm -5.5. My ophthalmologist has said I'm a good candidate since I also have thick corneas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skiahh View Post
    Mine was about 3 days of sitting in the dark with frozen peas on my eyes every couple of hours and some pain killers for the first ~24-36 hours. After about 5 days, no more pain. Vision... well, I couldn't tell, really, because right after the surgery - while my eyes were still numbed - I could see perfectly. Better than perfectly. Then they stuck in the "bandage" contacts and told me to put in the steroids and anti-bacterial. By day 5 those "bandages" were so damn dirty, I could barely see any more! Once they pulled them out, it took another week or so to "polish" (Doc's word) the epithelial cells they removed and after 30 days, I was returned to flight status.

    Just in case someone's considering PRK vs Lasik.
    Don't forget the constant regimen of eye drops (every 4 hrs) and perkoset (every 4 hrs).

    Ha ha I was drooling on myself for a couple of weeks. I was by myself too which kinda sucked. I listened to DVDs when I had the ice on my eyes but I have 20 more years before I need glasses again....so they say.

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    One reason I'm glad I went with LASIK and not PRK. I had the option. I still have to do the medicated drops every 4hr and lubricating drops every couple hours or as needed, but it's a small price to pay to have 20/20 vision.

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    True most people will not see the difference between prk and LASIK...but I was trying to go be a pilot in the Marines. The military does not accept LASIK for correction to 20/20 for flight status. Or at least they didn't when I was trying.

    The way I look at it was I was 22 and since the surgery was free to me I now have 20 or so more years not paying for glasses or contacts. IMHO LASIK or prk are both worth it to your pocketbook.

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    After having glasses/contacts for 22 years, I got LASIK a couple of years ago. Best money I ever spent on anything, and that includes my kids, hahaha.

    If you are considering it and in the market, do it. My side effects were mild. I had some dryness for the first 3 months, but after that it went away. I had stars and halos at night for about 8 months, and then they went away. Over two years later, vision is still 20/10 with no side effects.
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    If you are older and cataracts are beginning to form, your doctor will probably steer you away from LAZIK to other options, but if that's not the case, it's a great procedure.

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    Mine was about 3 days of sitting in the dark with frozen peas on my eyes every couple of hours and some pain killers for the first ~24-36 hours. After about 5 days, no more pain. Vision... well, I couldn't tell, really, because right after the surgery - while my eyes were still numbed - I could see perfectly. Better than perfectly. Then they stuck in the "bandage" contacts and told me to put in the steroids and anti-bacterial. By day 5 those "bandages" were so damn dirty, I could barely see any more! Once they pulled them out, it took another week or so to "polish" (Doc's word) the epithelial cells they removed and after 30 days, I was returned to flight status.

    Just in case someone's considering PRK vs Lasik.


    This is a very common post-operative course for PRK. Painful for 3-5 days, vision fair for about a month and then improves. PRK is definitely safer than LASIK in the long run as there is no flap to cause problems. That's why the military didn't allow LASIK for quite a while on pilots and some others. PRK was the surgery of choice. Now most branches (if not all) allow LASIK for pilots, but all refractive surgery has very limited parameters for military pilots. If someone is thinking about going into the military, especially as a pilot, ask before you have refractive surgery.

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    I also had LASIK done last year, and am very happy with it. However, the first two months were not ideal and I had my doubts. My vision was good, but my eyes were very dry and I needed to use special eye drops for a few weeks. But after that faded I'm left with almost perfect eyesight (20/20, and 20/25) which was a huge improvement over my extreme near sightedness before surgery. The main reason that one eye isn't perfect is because of an astigmatism that has come back. This is something they can try to correct, but it's such a small adjustment and may not even fix the problem. It's tolerable though, and I rarely notice it. So just a word of warning that LASIK is not 100% guaranteed effective!

    That being said, specifically with mountain biking, it's been a huge improvement. With contacts it was common to have one dry out on a descent and either slip around my eye, or come out completely. That was always really interesting on a fast downhill! And then with glasses, it was difficult in bright sunlight or in alternating sun/shade conditions. But now I feel that my riding has improved, and overall there is just less hassle. And where it's really been great is swimming, wakeboarding, and backpacking. Well worth the cost and the dry eyes for the first few weeks!
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    i had it done a few months back. worth every penny. drove me batty about not being able to really do anything for a month but worth it in the long run. no longer having that issue of looking over top your glasses (all glasses wears know what i mean by that!), makes it all worth it.
    when i did my first check up, i could almost make out all of the bottom of the fine print on the chart. to which the doc walked over checked, and told me to leave. ha. my eyes have gone back, but i am still doing 20/15 right now i believe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKA View Post
    Mine was about 3 days of sitting in the dark with frozen peas on my eyes every couple of hours and some pain killers for the first ~24-36 hours. After about 5 days, no more pain. Vision... well, I couldn't tell, really, because right after the surgery - while my eyes were still numbed - I could see perfectly. Better than perfectly. Then they stuck in the "bandage" contacts and told me to put in the steroids and anti-bacterial. By day 5 those "bandages" were so damn dirty, I could barely see any more! Once they pulled them out, it took another week or so to "polish" (Doc's word) the epithelial cells they removed and after 30 days, I was returned to flight status.

    Just in case someone's considering PRK vs Lasik.


    This is a very common post-operative course for PRK. Painful for 3-5 days, vision fair for about a month and then improves. PRK is definitely safer than LASIK in the long run as there is no flap to cause problems. That's why the military didn't allow LASIK for quite a while on pilots and some others. PRK was the surgery of choice. Now most branches (if not all) allow LASIK for pilots, but all refractive surgery has very limited parameters for military pilots. If someone is thinking about going into the military, especially as a pilot, ask before you have refractive surgery.
    I was pretty surprised when I heard they OK'd LASIK for pilots. The Navy doc who did mine was featured on a History Channel show several years later as a pioneer in the field told us during our briefs that he would never approve LASIK for aviators for the simple fact that the flap could become dislodged years later. Now, articles I've read say they're stable at high altitude, with O2 blowing on them and under high G forces. But our doc wasn't so much concerned with those as a high speed ejection where you might hit a 250, 350 or 450 knot airstream. Helmets are frequently ripped off when that happens and he was concerned that once you survived the ejection, you would hit the ground blind and not be able to survive until rescuers found you. Or worse, not be able to evade if you went down in bad guy country.

    Like I said, on day 30 post-op, I was cleared to fly again. I had a few friends that had to go 6 weeks or so, though.

    And anecdotal evidence showed something strange. The worse your vision was, the less pain you experienced. People with 20/40 to about 20/100 vision had really bad pain and had to use the anesthetic drops they gave us (and said don't use unless you're in dire need) while those of us with bad vision (I was a bit worse than 20/200; -4.0) had only minor post-op pain. I quit the Percocet after just 12 hours and the frozen peas were comforting, but not "life-saving".

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    lasik is what they all tell us do in the army up in canada if we had to choose between them.

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    i had LASIK done in 2005 at age 23. I dont know what my vision was beforehand, it was bad, but wasnt TERRIBLE. I wanna say -3.5 or so. I wore glasses since 3rd grade and contacts since 6th grade.

    great decision for me. I got the procedure done and the next day could see pretty well although it felt a little weird. but after a week, it was greatness. no need at all for glasses. i had minor halo effect at night around lights, but nothing that bad.

    all that said, I can tell my eyes have gotten a little worse over the last 8 years, mainly in low lights (movies, or presentations in dark-ish auditoriums, things like that, and trying to read street signs while driving at night). I got glasses for watching TV or going to movies, or driving at night. that said, I dont wear glasses 95% of the time and have zero problems. my eyes never really even felt dry after the first week or two after surgery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiahh View Post
    I was pretty surprised when I heard they OK'd LASIK for pilots. The Navy doc who did mine was featured on a History Channel show several years later as a pioneer in the field told us during our briefs that he would never approve LASIK for aviators for the simple fact that the flap could become dislodged years later. Now, articles I've read say they're stable at high altitude, with O2 blowing on them and under high G forces. But our doc wasn't so much concerned with those as a high speed ejection where you might hit a 250, 350 or 450 knot airstream. Helmets are frequently ripped off when that happens and he was concerned that once you survived the ejection, you would hit the ground blind and not be able to survive until rescuers found you. Or worse, not be able to evade if you went down in bad guy country.

    Like I said, on day 30 post-op, I was cleared to fly again. I had a few friends that had to go 6 weeks or so, though.

    And anecdotal evidence showed something strange. The worse your vision was, the less pain you experienced. People with 20/40 to about 20/100 vision had really bad pain and had to use the anesthetic drops they gave us (and said don't use unless you're in dire need) while those of us with bad vision (I was a bit worse than 20/200; -4.0) had only minor post-op pain. I quit the Percocet after just 12 hours and the frozen peas were comforting, but not "life-saving".
    I might not have needed the percocet but I damn well used them. I forgot to take them about two days after surgery and i woke up in the middle of the night feeling like someone was carving my eyeballs out with a spoon.

    All in all though best thing I ever did. Never made it into mecep but at least I can see Lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiahh View Post
    PRK done in 2000. Still 20/15 and sometimes better. However, I hit the age of reading glasses a few years back, so am back to wearing glasses part time.
    Ditto. PRK in 2003. Was about 20/400 or so. Still 20/20 now.
    But just got a pair of reading glasses last month. Turned 41 in April. Wah.

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    I had PRK today. No pain right now, but I was advised tomorrow and the following day could be less than joyous.

    My surgeon said I didn't have enough curvature for LASIK. He seemed relieved that I was more interested in prk due to potential flap issues.

    My kids think I'm crazy for doing it. They saw the final destination movie recently
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    Quote Originally Posted by heyyall View Post
    I had PRK today. No pain right now, but I was advised tomorrow and the following day could be less than joyous.

    My surgeon said I didn't have enough curvature for LASIK. He seemed relieved that I was more interested in prk due to potential flap issues.

    My kids think I'm crazy for doing it. They saw the final destination movie recently
    Good for you. At least you have your family there. I was stumbling around my apartment half blind before the vision got better lol

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    To all; thanks for posting your experiences, most revealing to me were the post op trials and tribulations.

    In my mid/late 60's, wearing glasses for nearly 25 years, would be nice to go back to near square one for a while.

    Something to think about, and get a professional opinion on, so thanks again.
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    I had PRK a little over a year ago. I admittedly had a result far better than average. I have essentially perfect human vision now. Better than 20/20. Typically I can get all of the 20/10 as well.

    The first week (PRK has a longer recovery as it is a different procedure-no flap) is a challenge. After that it gets very good very quickly. Due to the consistent fluctuations between good and bad over the first 3-6 months its easier to get buyer's remorse. However, when it finished stabilizing it was perfect.

    I had mine done on a Thursday and was riding again the next weekend. I felt very good the week after.

    Good luck!

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    Sorri to hear you are so bothered by your prescription. As you already know there is no good way of correcting +8 hyperopia. There will likely soon be advances in icl (intraocular contact lens) technology that will allow your prescription to be corrected. There are some people who have clear lens exchange for such high hyperopia which is doing cataract surgery early. The safest option in my opinion for you may be glasses however.

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    I had my eyes done in 1999 at the age of 41. I still see very well to this day, although not quite as well as the first couple years after the procedure. I managed to defy my eye doctors prediction 10 years ago that I would need reading glasses soon, but finally about 4 years ago I started using them. Now, I even have a pair of reading glasses in my pack for use if I have a breakdown out on the trail. Can't see anything real small, especially if the light isn't good. It was money well spent. I hated glasses, and I never could get comfortable with contacts. I have astigmatism in my right eye. The procedure didn't work quite as well in that eye as in the left, although had I not had the left eye vision to compare the right eye vision to, I never would have known it wasn't perfect (since it was so much better than before the procedure). Sitting here right now covering left, then right, I definitely have better focus left than right. It's all good though, especially compared to what it was before the procedure.

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    I had LASIK done in 2001 (wavefront guided), my prescription was -3.5/-3.5 with astigmatism, at the age of 31.
    My main hobby then was surfing and it transformed my surfing.
    It took 6 months for the sparkly / halo'd brake lights to ease, probably 2 years to go away.
    Highly recommended, my vision is still great currently in denial about getting reading glasses though!

    Also as I now have less lens flesh, and I am not wearing glasses / contacts, I can see at night (Riddick style), the down side is that I am now more likely to wear sun glasses in bright sunny days (not an issue living in Plymouth, as it's normally raining!).

    Do not go for the cheapest deal, get details about aftercare, performance results of the equipment plus the surgeon using it.

    Finally when you have the procedure it is very strange to smell your eyes buring, smelt like burnt hair to me................

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockySpieler View Post
    Finally when you have the procedure it is very strange to smell your eyes buring, smelt like burnt hair to me................
    The weirdest is them putting the saline in at the end and the sizzling that is your eye...

    totally worth it!

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    LASIK = BEST $$$ I EVER SPENT!!!

    In 2002 after a lifetime if wearing glasses and a bad enough astigmatism that I was not able to wear contacts I got LASIK. I lived in VT at the time and decided to go across the border north to Montreal. I got the procedure done at the "hospital" where the procedure was actually developed by the doctor who at the time had done the most procedures to date. For the cost of $800 per eye (US).

    It took 15 minutes to complete and they sent me back to the hotel. I stayed in for about 6 hours and then took the subway to watch an Expos baseball game and then to some clubs. Obviously, this was not recommended by my Dr.

    I had 20/20 in my left eye and 20/10 in the right. Have not had an eye exam since. Notice only a slight decrease in vision. No bad effects.

    LASIK is an amazing life alterating gift.
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