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    ... and if we just ... Kids Passion: Post ur kid racin'

    As a proud parent of a XC racing kid just wanted to share a couple of scanned pics of my kid in action that I just got my hands on.

    His race group, the Little DeViL is rider 201 (yellow stripe on number plate)


    The yellow stripe identify him as a former champion, he has won his age group 2 years in a row but this year he's the youngest one of the group and is working really hard to stay competitive, right now his 3rd in points.

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    Not racing ...

    I'm not aware of any races in my area with a 6-year old category, but here's some kid passion (ps the helmet problem is now fixed - he kept pushing it back):

    North Shore riding, on a fully rigid singlespeed with a coaster brake (the handbrake is cosmetic):



    Turning the corner



    He complained that the speed barriers (about 200 feet apart) on this trail were not letting him go fast enough:



    Doing some homework before hitting the 'Shore again:



    Practising wheelie drops in the yard:

    You be you. I'll be riding.

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    Awesome photos guys, I hope we see more

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    I just hope he'll like racing (I don't race).

    Here he is trying a frame... but it didn't fit.
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    Just a Saturday ride


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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncan!
    Doing some homework before hitting the 'Shore again:



    Practising wheelie drops in the yard:

    How to you manage to teach him weelie drops and hucking techniques?

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    techniques

    Quote Originally Posted by DiRt DeViL
    How to you manage to teach him weelie drops and hucking techniques?
    You start em young, give them encouragement, and hide your own fear when they tell you "I can huck that Dad!"

    4 years old riding dirt bikes at Pismo Beach

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    a year later at Pacifica

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    This is great! We're having our first (a boy) in ten days and I can't get enough of these threads.

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    Amazing, is that a Stinky Jr?

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    She's got passion...

    Dirt Devil...

    Your little boy seems like quite the hammer...I always enjoy your posts and look forward to doing the same with my little girl. I'm hoping one of these day's I'll be able to swing a trip down to PR one day to ride with you guys! I've been dying to get back to a Spanish speaking country. I have a feeling I'd have a warm welcome in PR and get some killer riding in too!

    Sid's got passion...but she's not big enough to ride let alone race. She's not even walking yet actually. This pic was taken the day after her first trailer ride. Granted..I couldn't get her to wear the helmet during the ride, but ever since then, when she sees it she wants to wear it. At least she's protected if she falls out of her high chair!

    Second trailer ride was last night with a friend. A Burley trailer of her own is on its way...she can't wait and neither can I !

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    Philadelphia area - Junior Races?

    Hey everyone!

    My daughter is 9 years old and just recently started mountain biking. She's not particularly fast, but really enjoys it and expressed an interest in racing. does anyone know of any kids races in the Philadelphia area? Any referrals would be appreciated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chili
    I've been dying to get back to a Spanish speaking country. I have a feeling I'd have a warm welcome in PR and get some killer riding in too!
    Thanks for the kind words, any mtbr broda is more than welcomed at the DeViL's. I've been lucky to meet mtbr folks during trips and was more than welcomed, that's another reason why I do the same. Seems that the mtb community trusts their fellow mtbers and the relationships seems to be for the long run.

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    i live in philly

    Quote Originally Posted by sbermhb
    Hey everyone!

    My daughter is 9 years old and just recently started mountain biking. She's not particularly fast, but really enjoys it and expressed an interest in racing. does anyone know of any kids races in the Philadelphia area? Any referrals would be appreciated!
    i live in philly
    my daughter wants to race as well shes twelve and there is nothing for gors until age 14 or so(masuperseries.com ) and the race i did find for her was on a bad weekend

    http://masuperseries.com/SeriesSched...rsheyFlyer.htm imay take her to this one
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    Let me tell you what I did.

    Back when I was a racer (not a good one btw) my son wanted to race too. We'll ask the promoter or official if a kids race was on the agenda and the usual answer was no. When they did was on an improvised course and gave medals to all participants, sort of a everyone is a winner race.

    In 2003 I volunteered to run the kids program full time, I'm also a member of the mtb governing body. On the races that the governing body is also the promoter I desing, mark, register and do the races along with my wife and daughter. On the other races I help the promoter on the course desing and perform all the race related duties but the promoter is responsible for everything related to the course.

    We have several classes; from kids on training wheels to 10 y/o. From 11 to 13 they race on the real course but with chaperones just to watch them make sure that they don't get injured. Every kid acumulates points and at the end of the year the first 3 from each class receive championship trophies in addition to the individual race trophy or medal; everyone receives a medal just for trying anyway to everyone is a winner.

    My recomendation will be to go to the races and talk with the officials, most of them will like the idea of having some sort of "everyone is a winner" race and then you can volunteer and build from there.

    It's hard work but at the same time very rewarding.

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    Seriously this thread has been enlightening to me. Now I have a clearer idea of what to do whenever my kid be able to learn to ride.

    BTW... what's the best way to hook him into the sport without overwhelming him???

    I guess I'll could find the way myslef when the time comes but I might miss the point and get hims away from MTB too... that would be bad. I'd really like to ride along with my son.
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    Let him get started with a trike or little bike and off course let him see you ride and feel your passion about bikes.

    As soon as the balance is there introduce him to the dirt but don't push him, let him explore and discover the beauty of this sport. Before you know it he'll be begin' for you to take him along for a ride and that's when the real fun starts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiRt DeViL
    Let him get started with a trike or little bike and off course let him see you ride and feel your passion about bikes.

    As soon as the balance is there introduce him to the dirt but don't push him, let him explore and discover the beauty of this sport. Before you know it he'll be begin' for you to take him along for a ride and that's when the real fun starts.
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    Stinky Jr

    Quote Originally Posted by DiRt DeViL
    Amazing, is that a Stinky Jr?
    Yes, It's a Kona Stinky Jr. I bought the frame and then built it the way I would build my own bike. He loves it and it is a great bike.
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    Anyone Check out the Banff Film Festival this year?

    They had a film of a Canadian kid, probably about 10-12 who literally threw himself off obstacles. He fell distances that just make you cringe - and never got hurt. It was one of those clips that you laugh at watching but have to watch between your fingers as you are trying to cover your eyes.

    Will try to find out who he was as maybe there is a clip out there.
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    Great thread

    I have no racing pics of my 8 yr old, but I do have some from a recent ride. They can be seen here memorial day ride with pics She finally got the whole riding a two wheeler thing this spring. I am super proud of her for all of the progress she has made in just a few months. Last week she was even jumping on a small ramp that one of the neiborhood kids had made.

    I am floored by some of the stuff that your little guys are riding! I don't think I would ride some of that stuff! But I am just an old XC fuddy duddy, and somehow missed the whole freeride boat Great job to all of you dads and moms who are taking your kids out on the trails and sharing your passion with them!

    And DirtDevil, kudos to you for taking the time to organize a kids racing series. I can understand how much time and effort it takes. I am promoting my first race next month, and am frankly to the point where I can't wait for it to happen. There is so much more that goes into it than most people know. Of course, I am sure that my job would be easier if I didn't have to BUILD THE TRAIL too! Fortunately, I have had some great help!
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    Nice pics and looks that you guys had a blast on Memorial Day. For us was a racing and camping weekend and off course the kids raced and turned out to be one of the best races of the season. I missed it because I was trying to become a downhiller and due to a brake failure only did the practice run and by the time I made it back to where the XC venue was the kids were already finished.

    Thanks for the kind words and as you said it's hard work. I've been helping a team with rebuilding their trail (my favorite btw) and that is really hard labor, last Saturday we spent 7hrs working there and couldn't even finish a section. I'll prolly show up tomorrow to give a hand but can't stay for that long.

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    Man great thread DD. Great stuff form all you das and mums, I guess it's hard to remember those days when fear wasn't a factor. I'm amazed at what I've seen so far in this thread, wish I could get my nephews from in front the computers long enough to go riding - we bought them all bikes for x-mas and they were riding for a while, but once we stopped asking our bro to bring them up to ride they stopped (only roads where he lives)
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    Erik is 12 and has won three out of the four local races he's done this season.

    Lots of kids do XC racing over here, and some of the races Erik can even ride to from home.

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    Bump & Grind 05

    Here's my son racing in the Bump & Grind this past Sunday. He came in 2nd (Jr Olymipc boys 11-12) and had a great time. Then later that afternoon he raced again in the Shimano Youth Series.
    Our backyard track has helped a lot in building and improving his riding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dex
    Our backyard track has helped a lot in building and improving his riding.
    Wish I had enough space to build some stuff on the backyard

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    My kid...

    His first race without training wheels

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiRt DeViL
    How to you manage to teach him weelie drops and hucking techniques?
    I think most kids instinctively want to do this. Start small, with improvised stuff (on grass), and move from there. He does stuff repetitively on his own all day sometimes, and when he gets bored, we move on to something else. Oh yeah, a correctly-sized bike is good too. I would recommend for backyard skills a small, light bike that a small kid can manhandle and whip around (more like a BMX), as opposed to a full suspension bike with gears and brakes (which are great for "real" riding in the woods and trails).

    Living on the North Shore helps too. Some kids here grow up wanting to be Wade Simmons. I borrowed the "North Shore Extreme" DVD Box set for Brodiegrrl (sorry we haven't returned it yet), which he enjoys watching. Some kids play hockey, some play baseball, in my neighbourhood, some bike. Every Saturday for 4 hours he rides with the Little Rippers while mom teaches yoga and dad buys groceries. Dad also sometimes feels qualified enough to give a few pointers. D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiRt DeViL
    Let him get started with a trike or little bike and off course let him see you ride and feel your passion about bikes.
    Remember too your kid may not really be into biking. My daughter, despite all my (from my point of view) encouragement, seems to have little interest in riding. But that's OK, and I don't make it an issue (I will confess that I used to at one point, and in hindsight realize was totally unfair on my part). D.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncan!
    Remember too your kid may not really be into biking. My daughter, despite all my (from my point of view) encouragement, seems to have little interest in riding. But that's OK, and I don't make it an issue (I will confess that I used to at one point, and in hindsight realize was totally unfair on my part). D.
    That's true, my daugther wouldn't touch a bike or anything that will require balance.

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    Awesome pic scoutdog! How old are they?
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    Kids...

    Quote Originally Posted by Noelg
    Awesome pic scoutdog! How old are they?
    My Lil Guy #4383 is 4 years old! It's the 5 and under class at the Wisconsin Off Road series kids race! He loves it! He can't stand it if there is someone in front of him. He got his competitive edge from his Mom ! LOL!!!

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    Frozen,
    Come on over to GF for a ride with us out at Turtle River some weekend. My 8 year old comes and rides the Sunday night group ride almost every time and he sometimes leads the group for a lap. We have a lot of fun and the trails are very kid friendly I think.

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    Equipment Question

    Having grown up riding 20, 24 and 26 inch wheel BMX bikes, it sure seems to me that a well designed 24 inch hardtail with a quality front shock would be an awesome machine for these kids- I base this partially on my experience in the kids cruiser class back in the day- Everyone started on 26 inchers, as did I, I think I was 12 or 13 at that time- Then the 24's came out, When I switched I started dominating that class (untill the other guys switched too!)

    There was no comparison in the acceleration, manuverability, and handling of the 24 for smaller riders.

    What Im wondering is if there is enough of a market for a high quality 24 inch hardtail- If understand correctly, there are few 24s out there- nothing beyond recreational, and there are very few forks- What do you guys think?

    thanks for all the pics- really great to see- im showing them to my 6 month old girl right now! never know, she might be out there someday!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gopriest31
    What Im wondering is if there is enough of a market for a high quality 24 inch hardtail- If understand correctly, there are few 24s out there- nothing beyond recreational, and there are very few forks- What do you guys think?
    IMHO, there are not many "great" 24" bikes or aftermarket parts.

    Specialized makes IMO the best of them, the 24" Hotrock FSR. Kona used to make the Stinky Jr but haven't seen it in a while and the Hula, Trek, Fisher, Giant, Specialized, Diamondback and others make good bikes but are on the recreational side of the spectrum. Another alternative is to find a XXS or custom frame; Jamis, Titus and others offer frames small enough for kids to ride on.

    What I did, I bought a Diamondback Octane 24 and basically have changed everything but the frame, rims, spokes and headset. Now it has a LX drivetrain and hubs, Deore shifters, RF seatpost, Titec stem, Easton handlebar, Sette saddle (SLR lookalike), Avid brakes, Promax levers, ODI lockon grips, Candy pedals and a RST Capa 24 fork (had to look hard and was the best I found at the time).

    Here's how it looks


    I chose the Diamondback because it was the best equiped of the ones with Al frame. Most were CroMo and weighted a ton, this is no featherweight but is a tad better than most OEMs.

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    hhmm

    Sweet lookin little machine! I hope I'll be piecing one together in a few years - Did you go with shorter crankset?

    I was riding at Ray's Indoor in Cleveland last winter and there was a guy riding a 24" hardtail jump bike- (former BMX guy) I think he had a Marzocchi fork on it- cant be sure though

    I bet the stock rec 24" bikes you mention with their stock parts are tanks- Weight is so huge with little ones given their lack of leg strength (which is why I would opt to go hardtail) How did your buildup turn out weight wise? Thanks for the info!

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    Here's one from last weekend. The teeter totter was a big hit at the kid's ride!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gopriest31
    Did you go with shorter crankset?
    Yes, we went with shorter cranks. His are 170mm.

    Quote Originally Posted by gopriest31
    How did your buildup turn out weight wise?
    The bike weights ~25.5 pounds. It feels heavier but it's all on the fork, that thing is really heavy.

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    This is a cool picture (edited by one of the guys at ABG to make it look like that) of my 8-year old son sprinting to the finish in a race. Sorry... I tried to re-size it.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp2003
    I just hope he'll like racing (I don't race).

    Here he is trying a frame... but it didn't fit.
    Cute baby! Looks like he's already in the racing pose.

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    Will you be at the XC race in July?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dijridoo
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    Come on over to GF for a ride with us out at Turtle River some weekend. My 8 year old comes and rides the Sunday night group ride almost every time and he sometimes leads the group for a lap. We have a lot of fun and the trails are very kid friendly I think.

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    I plan on getting out there for that weekend. I am hoping to race the whole series this summer. That is of course with the exception of the PRSG race as I am the cooridinator. You really have to come out and check out the trail we are building.

    I like the Turtle River trail, there are trees out there!
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    This is the coolest thread I've seen all year!

    Thanks to everyone for sharing the photos.

    It is truly inspirational.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronDad
    This is a cool picture (edited by one of the guys at ABG to make it look like that) of my 8-year old son sprinting to the finish in a race. Sorry... I tried to re-size it.
    As my 7 year old would say: "That is tooootally wicked!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedRocker
    As my 7 year old would say: "That is tooootally wicked!"
    Agree, wicked pic.

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    Another one

    Keeping the thread alive


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    And another. Where do you go when your 6-year-old surpasses you?

    You be you. I'll be riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncan!
    Where do you go when your 6-year-old surpasses you?
    I don't know but the same happened to me, I wish my dad introduced me to sports that young. When kids start at a very young age the changes of getting real good is astronomical.

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    Being given opportunities to excel at such a young age must do wonders for their self-confidence (I know my my kid is turning into a cocky lil' &#@$&!). I always hear about how troubled kids have "poor self-image" and "self-esteem issues". I hope this goes some of the way to helping my kids be well-adjusted and happy. D.
    You be you. I'll be riding.

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