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    I guess y'all know about USPS...

    ...possibly dropping sponsorship? Maybe Lance will come over to MTBing?

    http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0304/032604lj1.htm

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    the timing is probably good

    Quote Originally Posted by Drevil
    ...possibly dropping sponsorship? Maybe Lance will come over to MTBing?

    http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0304/032604lj1.htm
    given that Lance has hinted on his retirement after the tour this year anyway.

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    That would be strange to not have USPS as the official sponsor.

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    Whoever heard of Berry Floors before they joined on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drevil
    ...possibly dropping sponsorship? Maybe Lance will come over to MTBing?

    http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0304/032604lj1.htm
    Is this the part where I gnash my teeth, tear my shirt, and cover myself in ashes? (j/k)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drewdane
    Is this the part where I gnash my teeth, tear my shirt, and cover myself in ashes? (j/k)
    Nah, Just shave your head and start passing flowers out at the Post Office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drevil
    ...possibly dropping sponsorship? Maybe Lance will come over to MTBing?

    http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0304/032604lj1.htm
    $9 million to reach a worldwide television audience in the hundreds of millions? What a waste of money ... the US Postal Service can get the same exposure for free:

    [SIZE=5]"Goodbye Lance ... Heelllloooo Newmannnnnn...."[/SIZE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkwing Duck
    Nah, Just shave your head and start passing flowers out at the Post Office.
    Well, I already pretty much do the first part - I maintain a nice stubble - but I dunno about the flower stuff. I'm more of a sackcloth and ashes kinda guy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pain Freak
    Whoever heard of Berry Floors before they joined on?
    I guess in the dog-eat-dog flooring business, they were feeling the heat from QuickStep floor's sponsorship of QuickStep-Davitamon (formerly Mapei Quickstep)
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    I'll sponsor Lance if he'll sleep with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christine
    I'll sponsor Lance if he'll sleep with me.
    That'd be history's most expensive roll in the hay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkwing Duck
    That'd be history's most expensive roll in the hay.
    Especially if the user of the handle "Christine" turns out to be a guy. (Not that there's anything wrong with that). D.
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    well, as a people we may finally be comming to the point where;

    Is anyone really going to use the US mail service because lance rides for USPS?

    No matter how hard and fast lance rides, it doesn't mean didly squat as to when I get a package.

    It's more like their sponsorship is a "charity".

    I don't hate lance, and I want him to keep winning, but I don't think the fact that lance was riding for them was helping them gain mail volume.
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    UPS is making USPS ads redundant

    UPS suck$ so harshly that the good old Postal Service no longer needs to spend dollars promoting itself, it's winning by default anyways.

    I kinda liked it when the team was Motorola: had more of an international appeal as Motorola is a multinational Corp - in contrast to the ethnocentric National-Corp-based teams in Europe.
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    I disagree about the exposure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Duncan!
    $9 million to reach a worldwide television audience in the hundreds of millions? What a waste of money ... the US Postal Service can get the same exposure for free:

    [SIZE=5]"Goodbye Lance ... Heelllloooo Newmannnnnn...."[/SIZE]


    They have to compete against Fed Ex and UPS and they are stuck with the Snail Mail rep. They havea constant need to reposition themselves in their market. And what about Rabobank, Confidis, Credit Agricole, et al? They all spend ducats to get exposure through cycling. Advertising is funny that way. If one guy puts it out there to snag market share then the competitors have to do it too or lose in the market. Even I feel differently about the Post Office when I see the USPS Posters up on the wall; it gives the phrase "going Postal" a whole new and better meaning.

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    Berry Floors has been around the peleton for a while

    Back in the Andre Tchmil days (and what a hammer that old dude was!) Berry Floors was a co-sponsor of the Lotto-Addeco squad. This was mid '90s, before the merger of Lotto & Domo.

    Speaking of Tchmil, check out WCP's video of the '94 Paris-Roubaix if you get a chance. What a freakin' stud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shockee
    I kinda liked it when the team was Motorola: had more of an international appeal as Motorola is a multinational Corp - in contrast to the ethnocentric National-Corp-based teams in Europe.
    Like most pro team sports, Euro cycling teams/clubs are affiliated with a specific country (HQ, financing, staff) eg Germany, France, Italy, Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark, Spain, Spain/Basque, USA. They will often try to push/market stars from that particular country/region, but will freely take on other riders as needed or available. USPS and Motorola are no different. Motorola is an American corporation that has been run by 3 generations of the Galvin family. If you were German, I doubt you would consider T-mobile (a subsiduary of Deutche Telekom - a publicly owned company on the NYSE) to be "ethnocentric". Are "Ethnocentric" and "Not-American" the same thing? D.
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    when lance goes, watch the entire usps team go as you know it..

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    Yes, I do agree with you, and have to retract the ethnocentric remark. It is refreshing, however, to note how much enthusiasm there exists among Americans for a once derided sport - at least during Tour time. 'Lance fever' makes it international, and nothing wrong with that in my book!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkwing Duck
    That'd be history's most expensive roll in the hay.

    I dunno, adjusted for inflation, the Trojan War may still win by a nose.

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    Anybody see 20/20 last night?

    Geraldo was patting himself on the back again with "best of" clips to promote his new book. Anyway, there was one part where he was grilling a rep for USPS about what a monopoly they are.

    "How do you justify spending millions to sponsor Lance?"

    The rep was like, "He's one of us!"

    Geraldo: "No he's not! What are you promoting? You don't have any competition!"

    The rep said something along the lines of what Lance represents- speed, efficiency, etc.

    Cut to an old guy ranting about the USPS service: "It's horrible!! They do a TERRIBLE job!!"

    The USPS does have competition, though, in the form of FedEx, UPS, internet etc. But it is odd how they're a private company that pretends to be otherwise. Still, I'm glad SOMEbody is sponsoring Lance. We need sponsors in the biking world.

    Anybody got a few mil I can borrow in the meantime??

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    Silly Christine, Getting Sponsorship Is Easy...

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    Still, I'm glad SOMEbody is sponsoring Lance. We need sponsors in the biking world.

    Anybody got a few mil I can borrow in the meantime??
    Paraphrasing Steve Martin:

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    Between.......

    Tom Weitzle (sp?) & Berry Floor they'll pick it up I'd bet.........

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    It was John Stossel (sp?), not Geraldo

    Quote Originally Posted by Christine
    Geraldo was patting himself on the back again with "best of" clips to promote his new book. Anyway, there was one part where he was grilling a rep for USPS about what a monopoly they are.

    "How do you justify spending millions to sponsor Lance?"

    The rep was like, "He's one of us!"

    Geraldo: "No he's not! What are you promoting? You don't have any competition!"

    The rep said something along the lines of what Lance represents- speed, efficiency, etc.

    Cut to an old guy ranting about the USPS service: "It's horrible!! They do a TERRIBLE job!!"

    The USPS does have competition, though, in the form of FedEx, UPS, internet etc. But it is odd how they're a private company that pretends to be otherwise. Still, I'm glad SOMEbody is sponsoring Lance. We need sponsors in the biking world.

    Anybody got a few mil I can borrow in the meantime??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christine
    I'll sponsor Lance if he'll sleep with me.
    Get in line, honey.
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