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    Upset Honking : I don't get it.

    I'm riding at night mostly. Front light, back light (smal leds) 3M reflective on bike and helmet. Some scotch bright on my cloth and shoe cover so I'm not invisible. I see you you see me. I respect stop signs and red lights when car are around.

    But still, some people feel like honking at me, but get this : As they cross me on the OTHER side. So I get honked at by incoming traffic !!??!!

    Happened at least once by ride this week. On long, straight stretches of roads. WTF ?

    Now honk at me if I'm riding mid day on the center lane ... but at 10 pm, by incoming traffic nontheless ... ? Why the hate ? What kind of sad life you're living here if for no reasons at all, you honk at this poor soul who really is minding his own business, getting a work out at the only time of the day he can ? . Do you get entertained by this ? Me wants to understand.

    I so feel like stopping, turning back and give em the finger. Gee I would not mind having a word with these idiots. Honk at me : explain yourself you fat ****!

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    Maybe the way your light is adjusted makes it shines in their eyes.
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    Honking : I don't get it.

    It depends on the driver. There seem to be two types, those that honk because they think you shouldn't be there and those that are good intentioned and are trying to let you know that they are there. The second group doesn't realize that that honk scares the crap out of the rider.
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    Usually it is an overly cautious driver imo. They just want to make sure you know they are there and that you don't randomly swerve into them, thus ruining their night.

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    I get this a lot. I always think the honk is the prelude to getting run over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woahey View Post
    Maybe the way your light is adjusted makes it shines in their eyes.
    This? How bright is your front light? I would check that out first.

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    But still, some people feel like honking at me, but get this : As they cross me on the OTHER side. So I get honked at by incoming traffic !!??!!
    There are nuances to car honks. A light tap or two might mean "hey I see you.." or maybe he's also a biker saying "nice bike dude I wish I was biking too".

    If your light was too bright for oncoming traffic, they might have flashed their headlights and then honked if you did not comply. If they leaned on the horn, you probably pointed your bike towards their lane and he got pissed. Otherwise he just probably hates bikers.

    One time this guy was behind me and he was leaning on his horn... twice when he can see I was really hauling ass already. He eventually overtook me but I caught up with him at the stoplight. I'm pretty sure he won't be rude to bikers anymore.

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    I'm still unsure what the honk means...or the significance of the thrown beer can.

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    I'd much rather get honked at than run over . . . at least you know they see you.
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    I seldom ride on the roads in Louisiana because people here at best don't know how to handle cyclists and at worst are openly hostile. Plus we still have a culture of drunk driving (drive through daiquiris I-kid-you-not) and you're not that safe even at noon.

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    I would also think it is the front light, especially if it's in blinking battery saving mode. It is meant as an eye catcher, but it can be a distraction to some. Also, look at the way that a car's headlights are pointed, away from the middle of the road towards the shoulder and down. I would suggest mounting the light on the left side of your h bar, pointing down and away from oncoming drivers at a spot 15 feet in front of you.
    Also, nothing wrong with being in the center lane as long as you are making a left turn, but don't hang out there.
    Having said that, some people see cyclists as an additional obstacle in the road that should be removed to the sidewalk. I dislike those people very much. Once I got honked at by a woman, mid afternoon, while I was in the bike lane on the side of the road and biking with traffic. I did stop and ask her and her son, a burly boy in his late teens, and proceeded to get a tongue lashing from the woman who believed I was a raving lunatic out to corrupt or harm her boy instead of a curious biker inquiring what I had done to deserve the horn treatment. I will not be doing that again.
    So stay safe at night, avoid confrontation where possible, and always smile as you pass cars stuck in rush hour, just don't let them see you do it.

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    Once when I was riding through downtown Shreveport I got the angry, long honk from a guy behind me and a shouted curse. In response I slowed down, stayed in front of him, and wouldn't let him pass for a couple of blocks.

    He was really pissed but what could he do except run me over or shoot me? Every time he slowed down, presumably to get his lard ass out of the truck to kick my ass I just sped up a little. Eventually I went the wrong way down a one way street to separate from him and he started following me before he realized what he was doing and backed up.

    Is it worth the hassle to do this kind of thing? Not really but what the hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p08757 View Post
    This? How bright is your front light? I would check that out first.
    I have lights that I use for riding on the trails. One is rated at 1000 lumen on high, the other at 1600 lumen on high. These two lights are just as bright, if not brighter than my cars headlights. Aim them level on your handlebars and the light will be shining perfectly in the eyes of oncoming drivers eyes in most cars.
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    Honking : I don't get it.

    Better safe, your smaller & not protected just ignore them... Honk-wise... Don't go bonkers...

    I even bought a rear LED with built-in Laser lines in red showing Guidance Lines for cars. Add it to your safety collection. After two stupid drivers hit me I take plenty of precautions

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    Quote Originally Posted by woahey View Post
    Maybe the way your light is adjusted makes it shines in their eyes.
    I was thinking the same thing.

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    Easy solution, get off the road! You'll very rarely come across oncoming cars on singletrack.

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    Honking : I don't get it.

    I kid you not, I attended a defensive driving course and the instructor advised the class to honk when passing a cyclist to let them know you were there. I piped up and asked them not to, because as a cyclist, I can say that a sudden honk is frightening and can cause a cyclist to swerve into traffic.

    I dunno about you guys but I usually hear even well maintained cars approaching from behind before they pass.

    IME, if the light is aimed wrong or too bright, people will flash their brights at you.

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    90 percent of the time its someone letting you know there coming. since we are on a road and all and would totally never expect cars to be there to.

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    Honking : I don't get it.

    Quote Originally Posted by NateHawk View Post
    I kid you not, I attended a defensive driving course and the instructor advised the class to honk when passing a cyclist to let them know you were there. I piped up and asked them not to, because as a cyclist, I can say that a sudden honk is frightening and can cause a cyclist to swerve into traffic.

    I dunno about you guys but I usually hear even well maintained cars approaching from behind before they pass.

    IME, if the light is aimed wrong or too bright, people will flash their brights at you.
    That is hilarious. Can you imagine the racket every Saturday, all morning in the summer as the road bike clubs get into full swing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NateHawk View Post
    I kid you not, I attended a defensive driving course and the instructor advised the class to honk when passing a cyclist to let them know you were there. I piped up and asked them not to, because as a cyclist, I can say that a sudden honk is frightening and can cause a cyclist to swerve into traffic.

    I dunno about you guys but I usually hear even well maintained cars approaching from behind before they pass.

    IME, if the light is aimed wrong or too bright, people will flash their brights at you.

    You get frightened when a car honks at you from behind? It's more dangerous for a car to sneak up behind a cyclist who's probably thinking he has the road all to himself.

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    Honking : I don't get it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gundam168 View Post
    You get frightened when a car honks at you from behind? It's more dangerous for a car to sneak up behind a cyclist who's probably thinking he has the road all to himself.
    Is it impossible for you to not be an a$$hole? Many of your recent posts here definitely suggest that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p08757 View Post
    This? How bright is your front light? I would check that out first.
    Its a small White led. This one :
    MEC Turbo Turtle White LED Front Light - Mountain Equipment Co-op. Free Shipping Available


    That could not possibly blinding incoming motorist!? IMO anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phiu-x View Post
    Its a small White led. This one :
    MEC Turbo Turtle White LED Front Light - Mountain Equipment Co-op. Free Shipping Available


    That could not possibly blinding incoming motorist!? IMO anyway.
    highly doubtful. I ride with a LOT more lumens than that, and properly aimed, it's not a problem for motorists. my rear blinkie is brighter than that, even. they are most likely honking because they think they are doing you a favor by announcing their presence. they probably have no concept of how loud their horn is for someone on a bicycle so nearby when they honk it. it's unfortunate that it is usually impossible to have any kind of discussion with drivers like that about how there is no need for them to honk when passing, especially if they're giving plenty of room as it is, since they're trying to be considerate at least (albeit in a misguided way). you can gesture or yell whatever monosyllabic phrase you want, but it isn't going to convey the information it needs to.

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    Get a high power laser
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gundam168 View Post
    You get frightened when a car honks at you from behind? It's more dangerous for a car to sneak up behind a cyclist who's probably thinking he has the road all to himself.
    Quote Originally Posted by NateHawk View Post
    Is it impossible for you to not be an a$$hole? Many of your recent posts here definitely suggest that.
    It's a legitimate question seeing how definitive you made your claim to be.

    Quote Originally Posted by NateHawk View Post
    I piped up and asked them not to, because as a cyclist, I can say that a sudden honk is frightening and can cause a cyclist to swerve into traffic.
    So you spoke for all of us?

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    Hope Must .. let .. go ...

    They honk when they are incoming ... facing me on the other lane. I probably saw them a mile before they saw me. No need to honk.

    I talked to a colleague about this at work and he told me that there is a talk radio station here with a very vocal morning man who encourage his groupies to honk at cyclists, could be that. Anyway, I won't give them the finger as I don't want to fuel their hate, and as a father of a 4 yrs old (future mtbiker for sure!) I have to set a better example. That is, unless threatened I won't pick up a fight (though I would have did it in my 20's). Let'em have their fun, and justice will eventually be served to them, Man or fate.

    I will most certainly be able to commute soon as I applied to a job at an office much closer to home. So I have to harden and/or grow zen

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    When I'm on the road at night, I WANT to blind cars with my blinky light. Compared to two big headlights, a couple of LEDs aren't much. Besides, oncoming headlights blind me/wash out what little road I could see before anyway. They can handle it.

    I agree with horns being surprising. Even if you know the car is there you weren't expecting to get blasted by a loud horn right behind you. They're meant to be heard from within another car, so when you're right next to them out in the open, it's really loud. Air brake releases and turbo blow offs scare the crap out of me too. Usually because they're also accompanied by a giant bus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phiu-x View Post
    They honk when they are incoming ... facing me on the other lane. I probably saw them a mile before they saw me. No need to honk.

    I talked to a colleague about this at work and he told me that there is a talk radio station here with a very vocal morning man who encourage his groupies to honk at cyclists, could be that. Anyway, I won't give them the finger as I don't want to fuel their hate, and as a father of a 4 yrs old (future mtbiker for sure!) I have to set a better example. That is, unless threatened I won't pick up a fight (though I would have did it in my 20's). Let'em have their fun, and justice will eventually be served to them, Man or fate.

    I will most certainly be able to commute soon as I applied to a job at an office much closer to home. So I have to harden and/or grow zen
    Great attitude dude. I've also learned to get used to cage drivers attitudes especially with minor issues like a sudden honking. I got used to it already being a motorcycle rider first. I've also learned not to start arguments with cage drivers like flipping them or slapping their cars. I may get away with it (if I'm lucky) but he may take it out against another cyclist.

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    Maybe they know you and are saying hi.
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    I don't get the logic either, but I also don't get people honking when leaving home. Had a neighbour who did this every morning at 4.30. All right already, we know you are going to work! It's probably the same thing that makes car drivers flick the headlights to high beam when they see you walking on or near a road. If you can already see me, why blind me as well??

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    You have one of those new 2000 lumens LED lights on the front don't you..............

    They are pissed because your light is brighter than theirs.
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    Get brighter lights. I run a steady on the bars and helmet, and a blinky on the bars, 300 lumens each, just barely enough.

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    I don't mind when a driver behind me toots the horn briefly to let me know he's there.
    But a long, sustained honk right when they get behind me? Not good.
    Another factor I didn't see in this thread is if the rider has music blaring in his ears and can't hear anything around him. I see this often, day and night.
    And another is hybrid cars. Earlier Priuses are super-quiet, even to pedestrians at crosswalks. Sometimes they even sneak up on me, and I don't ride with music.
    So, in short, a brief horn toot at a safe distance is ok, just in case the rider isn't paying attention.
    Long horn blasts in close proximity, not so good.

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    I got honked at today for no reason other than I was taking up space on the road.

    It would be nice if drivers would think of cyclist as:

    "Hey, thanks cyclist for developing the technology needed for cars, starting the Good Roads movement, the assembly line and saving some gas for the people that burn it"

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    How about "Thanks cyclist you're one less car in traffic."

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    I picked up a new road bike yesterday and took it on it's maiden voyage this afternoon. It wasn't 35min in that I go the honk for the same reason...I just hung out my arm with a big "thumbs up" as they drove by...Kill them with kindness right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Killroy View Post
    I got honked at today for no reason other than I was taking up space on the road.

    It would be nice if drivers would think of cyclist as:

    "Hey, thanks cyclist for developing the technology needed for cars, starting the Good Roads movement, the assembly line and saving some gas for the people that burn it"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gundam168 View Post
    ^
    How about "Thanks cyclist you're one less car in traffic."
    Yes, but cyclists insight hatred when they move faster than grid lock traffic. I know...we are a bunch of jerks...

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    The reason for honking is all made up in your head. If a honk pisses you off it's because it's you picture some a-hole in the car just trying to ruin your day.

    It's easily as logical to think that someone in the car is enjoying the day just as much as you are and honking to be like "yeah man".

    Whenever people scream or honk at me i just picture a bike race where people are screaming and hitting cows bells and crap and i just gooooooo.

    The real problem is assuming everyone else is an ******* for interacting with you when you ride.

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    if im riding my bike in brookyln and someone honks at me, get off my bike and run into a alley.those brooklyn gangbangers are hardcore,and i need to live

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    Honking : I don't get it.

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    Omg that's horrible!!!!! Not very pleasant & I hope they got the driver..

    I try not to ride in the dark, but if I do on my race cycle I have this:-



    My 5 Led bright, with lasers bought from fleabay..

    After being hit twice by cars both non-fault to me I have built my inner sense of care... I also started MTB'ing where there are no cars so much safer

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    First off, I tend to think that riding a bicycle on the highway is suicide. Maybe it's because about every month around here, a motorist hits a cyclist and kills him/her.

    Second, if for some strange reason I was feeling like death was the best option, I would ride on the highway at night with lights. Two seconds later, I'd be gone.

    However, if I had a life and death emergency and my car was broken and all my neighbors' cars were broken and 911 wasn't working, and there was a zombie apocalypse and I just HAD to ride my bike at night...I wouldn't use lights at all. If the cars can't see me, they can't hit me. Drivers around here like to AIM at cyclists and take them out of the equation. So I'd be like a ninja in the night and run dark like the stealth bomber. That would be my best chance of survival.
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    Honking : I don't get it.

    Yeah I don't ride bicycles on the highway, either.

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