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    Hey,do you remember a long time ago

    a thread about Hubs,and which Hub spun the longest? It became
    a long thread and was very interesting. Hope,Hadley,Hugi,Shimano,
    King,PhilWood and all others were part of the thread. I would Love
    to know which Hub spins the longest from a dead stop. That was the
    problem if I recall,there was no way to test the idea properly? As I
    remember Shimano came out on top in "that" thread. Your thoughts.


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    There is a lot of variables. for it to be a proper test, you would need to have identical wheels builds and tires. Also, the rolling resistance from the freehub/bearings is negilible when compared to the momentum of the bike+rider. so its a quite silly discussion from an engineering standpoint.

    That being said, my American Classics roll forever. Enduro ceramic bearing

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    What about same builds,no tube and tire. No one on the bike,just on a stand?

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    And then you have to consider the problem of how to apply the same exact force over the same distance, everytime.

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    right,that was the problem before. That is why I brought it up,to see if things
    have changed?

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    Not without someone setting up a stand, and automated spinner, and building a bunch of wheels, all to test something that doesn't matter, no gonna happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTK View Post
    I would Love
    to know which Hub spins the longest from a dead stop.

    1974 Campy Super Record with the grease cleaned out and replaced with oil- unbeatable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTK View Post
    I would Love
    to know which Hub spins the longest from a dead stop.
    Now that I re-read this I take it back, every hub would tie at 0.00 seconds.

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    Now hold on,it's not that stupid of a idea. We could place bets,and I'm sure
    King would like to win the contest. "My Hubs Coast the longest". Just like my
    Cranks are the lightest. Peace.

    MTK{thinks Shimano should pay for the shootout}

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    I'll play, but to get mine started im using a belt and my truck tire

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    Put something on top of the wheel (in a stand). Move it a hair, to allow the weight to start the wheel moving. The object would need to be a bit sticky (so it doesn't slide), but not connected, so at the 1/4-turn mark it would fall straight to the ground.

    I don't know how fast you could get a wheel moving, but it would be repeatable (assuming same wheel diameters and rims, and spokes).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdbruner View Post
    Put something on top of the wheel (in a stand). Move it a hair, to allow the weight to start the wheel moving. The object would need to be a bit sticky (so it doesn't slide), but not connected, so at the 1/4-turn mark it would fall straight to the ground.

    I don't know how fast you could get a wheel moving, but it would be repeatable (assuming same wheel diameters and rims, and spokes).
    Good thinking!

    Testing the coasting time of an unloaded bearing is not a very good test to prove real world performance. I could build a hub with one needle bearing inside of a cone and it would spin for a day. No one could ride it, though. Are we proving that it spins really long or that it can still spin after a 4 ft. drop to flat after a season of saltwater beach riding?

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    How about: service them, ride them hard for a week, then test them unloaded?

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