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    Has anyone riding a 26 experienced smug on the trail?

    Has this whole 26, 27.5, 29 brought more smugness towards the 26 rider?

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    Frankly, unless the bike has 20" or 36" wheels, I do not even notice what the size is. I just greet my follow rider.
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    I purchased an SB66c a couple months ago and have received nothing but compliments.

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    Has anyone riding a 26 experienced smug on the trail?

    No.

    But I'm not in the mix of lots of riders. Mostly just a small group or few others I know and ride with. I ride during most normal workweek hours so I don't see much traffic.

    If I get any grief, I'll just tell them my moderate riding trail choices, style and lack of talent will prevent me from getting any newfangled inventions. They will believe me.
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    I can barely go for a ride without running into some level of condescension from riders on "modern" bikes. Comments about how my bike is "old school", or "holy crap, you rode that, on that?!?!", and asking when I'm going to "upgrade".

    Funny how many of those idiots I've ridden off my wheel lately.

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    Has anyone riding a 26 experienced smug on the trail?

    The regular group ride I do is mostly 26" with a growing number of 650b, and I'm usually the only 29", and we just ride, so no. I do encounter a tremendous amount of butthurt on this forum, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evasive View Post
    The regular group ride I do is mostly 26" with a growing number of 650b, and I'm usually the only 29", and we just ride, so no. I do encounter a tremendous amount of butthurt on this forum, though.
    This reminds me of motorcycle rides. Some folks are kinda cliquish about what others ride. I always appreciate/ed different bikes and had plenty of assortment as company. Three of us comprised a 20 yr old Nighthawk, a Harley and the third was a big cc scooter Suzuki 650 Bergman.

    I feel the same way with bicycles and fellow riders .... anything that rolls is fine and if someone has to spout off about why their setup is best, or everyone has to comply with one idea of wheel size, full sus or whatever, my guess is they have low self-esteem or came from an island of misfit toys.
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    I'm smug whenever I see a derailleur on someone's bike.
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    WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?!?!

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    RIDE WHAT YOU RIDE AND DON'T WORRY ABOUT WHAT ANYBODY THINKS!

    sorry about the shouting but god and baby jesus help us all...when is this nonsense going to stop?

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    We see mostly 29ers around here, I've never heard anyone give anybody crap over what they ride. It seems that people are just glad to other riders out riding, be it a Next or a FS carbon wonder. Though I would like to see how those guys on Next bikes would rip up the trials on a FS carbon wonder.

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    Its all about the ride and the hell with the rest.

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    I think a lot of riders think that they are buying into something awesome, so they are stoked. They also want to spread the stoke but the problem is, they don't realize that they come off as being smug. Don't get me wrong, there are riders who are downright a55holes but for the most part, I don't think it's intended. For the record, all my bikes are 26's.

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    They don't say much if you're passing them. I've had a few jokes cracked about my over decade old 26er. Laugh at them and leave them far behind on the trail.

    Most of the jokes are cracked by kids with bikes mommy and daddy bought that still have reflectors... I ask them if mommy knows they're riding without their knee pads, and then leave them in the trail.

    TL;DR they're much less smug when they can't keep up. Wheel size means nothing when compared to skill, fitness, and balls.

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    As many times as I have ridden with (or encountered) other riders, the only comment that came close to a "critique" was some guy asking me why I didn't ride clip-less. This was amidst a pleasant enough conversation. I think he was prepared to promote the virtues. I explained that I do ride clip-less at times, but since it was early winter and my feet get cold, I switch to hikers and platforms. That was the end of that.

    My advice is to not let it bother you. If its just 'promotion', maybe a simple comment like "Interesting. For now I'll ride what I have". If its more than promotion, and borders on ridicule, you might consider riding with nicer people. If its friendly 'ball-breaking' between buddies, then I'm sure you can find some short-coming of your pal to return the favor...nobody's perfect!

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    I preemptively sneer at anyone not riding a 26" wheel bike, to establish my superiority. So, I guess the answer is no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    Frankly, unless the bike has 20" or 36" wheels, I do not even notice what the size is. I just greet my follow rider.
    Same here. When a rider passes by I never notice wheel size. If I am on a group ride I might notice wheel size, but I don't care. I ride what I can the way I can and for the most part keep up just fine. 90% of my riding speed is self imposed either by, fitness, skills, or bravery. The last 10% at best could be impacted by my bike.
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    Re: Has anyone riding a 26 experienced smug on the trail?

    I only see wheel size being debated on the internet. If someone were to actually confront you about your wheel size choice in person you should be left to assume their douchey and they should then be avoided, usually by everyone.

    Seriously how many of you are having this type of overly-sensationalized, overly-emotional debate about wheel sizes before your group ride with your friends? I know people who beat my a** on 26ers out on the trail and I don't like them not because their wheel size but because they're better than me.

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    Around here you still see older 26ers on the trail, but anybody who's bought a new bike in the last 2-3 years will almost always be on a 29er. That said, I don't think I've gotten any comments, good or bad, regarding wheel size on the trail.

    MTBers aren't like roadies in that regard. Like huffster says, any "negative" comments I've gotten on the trails have always been good-natured ribbing amongst my riding buddies. If I did hear something, I've got two standard replies: "Well, then you won't have to look at it after I drop you." or "If you'll buy me a replacement that you find acceptable I'll be happy to swap it out."
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    "Now choose your favorite size, and be a dick about it"
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    That sums it up nicely!

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    As I pass or get passed, I'm always thinkin' "Hey what's that between their legs?" Wheel size doesn't really enter into the train of thought so much. A bike is a bike, the wheels go round and round, the rider just rides (or should).
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    i just ride what makes me stack less.

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    Never experienced that. Wouldn't care any way. I can say that when I see someone on an old school vintage bike I immediately have respect. It always reminds me that I don't need the newest greatest technology in order to enjoy the sport of cycling. Nothing wrong with a new bike either, and i do drool over those from time to time.

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    I've haven't had any riders give me hard time on the trail. However we bust each others chops on what we ride. When that's over we shut up and ride..... well most of us....
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    Quote Originally Posted by _CJ View Post
    Comments about how my bike is "old school", or "holy crap, you rode that, on that?!?!", and asking when I'm going to "upgrade".

    Funny how many of those idiots I've ridden off my wheel lately.
    I get that comment more than any others about my little wheels.

    I'm a strange one in these parts, though. I ride an 11 year old 26" wheeled bike that's been upgraded on a fairly regular basis, so most components are only a few years old at most. The bike doesn't look as old as it is. Most people around here are on the 29er bandwagon, though, so they notice the difference in wheel size. I also ride plaforms and 5.10's as of this year, so right now most people's attention is focused on my pedals, because clipless pedals are viewed like gospel in my neck of the woods.

    I work in a shop part time and I love the comments and questions sometimes. My shop only has high end 29ers and 27.5 mtb's. The only 26ers are less than about $600. A guy was asking me the other day what wheel size I recommended. He kinda did a double-take when I told him "whatever you feel most comfortable on". I think he'd gotten some line about the wheel size he HAD to ride from other shops.

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    Never...it's a pretty mixed bag where I ride in South Texas. I can say that most of the hardtails seem to be 29ers. The FS bikes tend to lean more toward 26ers.
    Let's make like a Bike and get the Huck outta here...

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    Has anyone riding a 26 experienced smug on the trail?

    Quote Originally Posted by shekky View Post
    WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?!?!

    GOOD GOD!

    RIDE WHAT YOU RIDE AND DON'T WORRY ABOUT WHAT ANYBODY THINKS!

    sorry about the shouting but god and baby jesus help us all...when is this nonsense going to stop?
    This. I ride a 1x10 650b and am not smug about anything. Who f'ing cares? It's about what floats YOUR boat. If I tried to get an ego about a 26'er chances are they would huck over something I couldn't push my bike and walk down.

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    Funny thing about that...

    The only wheel size comment I've ever gotten riding my Yeti ASR-5 (26" wheels) is "Hey, is that one of those 650b bikes?" I've gotten that on several occasions.

    I'm guessing my height (5' 6") makes my wheels look bigger than they are. The fact that Yeti's are relatively uncommon must make people think my bike is cutting-edge new so it MUST have those new wheels.

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    At the last Socal Enduro I overheard a group of riders at the finish debating wheel sizes. One of them actually said "If you see someone still riding a 26er you should laugh at them." A couple of the other guys agreed.

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    This would make a great new South Park episode. Smug part 2.
    Hey are you riding the new 29 or 27.5??? Sure am!!
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    Yeah but that's Socal (the epicenter of caring what other people think), you have to consider the source. I'm in Norcal, and I just bought another 26'er. I know, gasp!

    Quote Originally Posted by z400jt View Post
    At the last Socal Enduro I overheard a group of riders at the finish debating wheel sizes. One of them actually said "If you see someone still riding a 26er you should laugh at them." A couple of the other guys agreed.

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    If they are smug about 26" wheels maybe the trick is to change the subject.

    I can imagine watching them pi$$ themselves laughing at my Motorola brick phone.

    It's still in the house somewhere spewing radiation.
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    When I see a 29er rider, I throw rocks at them I've just removed in order to sanitize the trail. When they are stunned I knock them over like sleeping cows, and piss on their handlebars - while standing in the middle of the trail. Then I light some trees on fire, shout Enduro! and rip down the hill, making sure to knock over anyone climbing up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwheelin View Post
    Has this whole 26, 27.5, 29 brought more smugness towards the 26 rider?
    not here in Arizona... I have yet to see someone seriously judge someone based on their wheel size...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bad andy View Post
    When I see a 29er rider, I throw rocks at them I've just removed in order to sanitize the trail. When they are stunned I knock them over like sleeping cows, and piss on their handlebars - while standing in the middle of the trail. Then I light some trees on fire, shout Enduro! and rip down the hill, making sure to knock over anyone climbing up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoePAz View Post
    I ride what I can the way I can and for the most part keep up just fine. 90% of my riding speed is self imposed either by, fitness, skills, or bravery. The last 10% at best could be impacted by my bike.
    i suppose it depends on the terrain, but i'd have to disagree with this based on my own experience.

    after riding my 26" Stumpy hardtail since 2001, i recently purchased a spankin new FS 27.5 Transition Bandit & know for a fact that i'm a better rider on it (descending anyways) i go faster, jump higher, mow over everything (almost) than i ever could on my old bike. granted, if i go on 'standard xc' type trails, my new ride feels like a howitzer at a knife fight.. just a case of the right tool for the job.

    as for haters... hell, i took it as a compliment when people would look at my old bike & say 'you ride that up here?'
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    Quote Originally Posted by _CJ View Post
    I can barely go for a ride without running into some level of condescension from riders on "modern" bikes. Comments about how my bike is "old school", or "holy crap, you rode that, on that?!?!", and asking when I'm going to "upgrade".

    Funny how many of those idiots I've ridden off my wheel lately.
    Just goes to show you... It's not the bike; it's the rider, regardless of wheel size.


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    Has anyone riding a 26 experienced smug on the trail?

    Quote Originally Posted by dfrink View Post
    Yeah but that's Socal (the epicenter of caring what other people think), you have to consider the source. I'm in Norcal, and I just bought another 26'er. I know, gasp!
    Heh. I was born in NorCal, left the state, and later returned to attend college in SoCal. What culture shock: everything revolving around appearance, fashion, peer group and public opinion. The epitome of superficiality. Yuck. Learned my lesson


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    I live in Socal and Can give a rat's poop pipe what anyone rides. I don't roll with those kind of superficial folks who do. I can easily picture the group Chuckling over people who ride 26" wheels

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    I have a 26 and a 29. They are both Ellsworths, AKA Worthless's, and if anything, people give me grief for the maker, not the wheel size.

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    Yes, I did experience smug on trails.
    From 26" riders.
    Telling me how the whole 650b is an industry created BS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzanova View Post
    Yes, I did experience smug on trails.
    From 26" riders.
    Telling me how the whole 650b is an industry created BS.
    Wow, I had no idea. I feel so, so sorry for you.

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    I just want to thank the OP for starting yet another wheel size thread. I feel certian that this will settle the debate on a world wide level once and for all.
    It's such a fine line between idiocy and genius.

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    Has anyone riding a 26 experienced smug on the trail?

    Yeah one time a chick on the trails said my 26" wheels were not big enough to ride with her. So she rode with another guy that had a 29er.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetimnstr575 View Post
    Yeah one time a chick on the trails said my 26" wheels were not big enough to ride with her. So she rode with another guy that had a 29er.


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    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    Has anyone riding a 26 experienced smug on the trail?

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    You're too good for the likes of her.
    Thanks lol. I tried to tell her it's not the size of the wheel that matters but how fast you turn it.


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    I can have a problem with holding in the smug and other remarks but it happens with any sized wheel. That goes for the wheels I'm spinning or seeing.

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