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    Re: Has anyone riding a 26 experienced smug on the trail?

    Quote Originally Posted by turbodog View Post
    Wow, I had no idea. I feel so, so sorry for you.

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    Thank you very much.
    Your compassion is very nice and appreciated. They can be real PITA posers sometimes.
    It really gets tiring constantly explaining to those diehard 26" riders the origins of the 650b passion.
    I have learnt some can't be convinced though. Especially the ones who have never tried a 650b or 29".
    BTW, I still ride my 26". Only not as much as I used to.

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    The only smug I ever experience is from Prius drivers as I fill my '67 GTO, but they can't help it because of the smug cloud that floats over them.

    I gently remind them that if it weren't for my car, their car wouldn't be necessary.

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    Has anyone riding a 26 experienced smug on the trail?

    I love my mountain bike and mountain biking. I however couldn't ever imagine making a remark about whatever bike you ride let alone wheel size.
    If they some how come out with a 28" wheel then people will probably like that too.
    I mean come on if someone's remarks about wheel size bothers a person to begin with we have bigger issues on our hands.



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    Pete, you are wearing thin on this whole forum. How do you find the time in high school to post so much?

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    Only a total douche bag would have sufficient lack of common sense to act smug about the bike someone else is riding. Pretend you don't speak english and get away from them asap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetimnstr575 View Post
    Yeah one time a chick on the trails said my 26" wheels were not big enough to ride with her. So she rode with another guy that had a 29er.


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    These folks hung up on wheel size discrimination have never had a good time or at least never been to Las Vegas.
    The lesson those ladies will pass along is if performance isn't suffering, there is no need to bring up size.

    When they do, it's called a 'Tell'.
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    Has anyone riding a 26 experienced smug on the trail?

    Quote Originally Posted by jazzanova View Post
    Yes, I did experience smug on trails.
    From 26" riders.
    Telling me how the whole 650b is an industry created BS.
    I only get that on MTBR.


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    Today was a great day. I managed to get in 2 rides. I recall talking briefly throughout the day with a family of 4, a couple and 3 other single riders.

    I could not tell you what brand of bike any of them have, what size wheels they had, whether they were clipped in, whether they were riding FS/HT/Rigid or whether they were wearing spandex.

    I could tell you what their faces looked like and what we talked about, and even a couple names. We mostly talked about the great whether, the awesome scenery, the sweet trails, how to get to a particular trail, best direction to take a particular trail, things to do in the area...stuff like that.

    It was all a very positive experience, as usual. That's why I do it.

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    Has anyone riding a 26 experienced smug on the trail?

    [Q UOTE=huffster;11316730]Today was a great day. I managed to get in 2 rides. I recall talking briefly throughout the day with a family of 4, a couple and 3 other single riders.

    I could not tell you what brand of bike any of them have, what size wheels they had, whether they were clipped in, whether they were riding FS/HT/Rigid or whether they were wearing spandex.

    I could tell you what their faces looked like and what we talked about, and even a couple names. We mostly talked about the great whether, the awesome scenery, the sweet trails, how to get to a particular trail, best direction to take a particular trail, things to do in the area...stuff like that.

    It was all a very positive experience, as usual. That's why I do it.[/QUOTE]

    You're not a real rider then. You should have berated him about what he wore and his bike brand.



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    First time I went out with a wee group on a local trail, one guy was riding a 26er and he jokingly called me and another 29er rider cheats... My father-in-law who rides a 29er, believes I was conned into purchasing my 650b Kona Process. Another time I was out on my 29 HT, doing a few loops of a local trail I bumped into 3 out of towners, they were riding FS trail bikes 120 - 140 travel... They wouldn't give me the time of day. One of them tried to start a friendly conversation, and the other two soon dragged him back to the fold. So there is stigma out there for sure (regardless of wheel size), find some like minded riders and forget the rest.

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    Has anyone riding a 26 experienced smug on the trail?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yetimnstr575 View Post

    You're not a real rider then. You should have berated him about what he wore and his bike brand.
    He's not a Mtbr rider. A Mtbr rider would finish the ride , then post up a report on his iPhone in the parking lot, describing the wrong clothing, bike brands, wheel sizes, tires, pedals, suspension, dropper posts, handlebar width & stem sizes that everyone was using. And to boot, when they rode, they all were doing it wrong.


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    I don't understand all this talking people do about wheel size etc. on the trail??? I never really talk to anyone except a riding partner if I have one. I just go ride and come home. Seems weird to me.

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    I purchased an SB66c a couple months ago and have received nothing but compliments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetimnstr575 View Post
    Yeah one time a chick on the trails said my 26" wheels were not big enough to ride with her. So she rode with another guy that had a 29er.


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    I would have told her I was saving the other 3" for later.

    All the SoCal comments are funny. I live in SoCal and it doesn't seem to be an issue like the majority of the internet makes it out to be. Like the only aholes are in SoCal.

    Except fatbikes. Those guys are weird.

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    Not at all. My friends are going 650b and my next bike will likely be mid sized wheels. My 26 Turner 5 Spot keeps up pretty well but we agree that 650b has advantage in the chunk. Next bike will be something like the Knolly warden or Turner Burner. There are 29ers here but are not dominant in these parts. Most ride 26 or are moving to 650b here around Cumberland, BC.
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    My last ride out I had my ss 26, with a freshly painted frame using canned spray paint, and a dude i ran into on the trail invited to the group that gets together for a weekly ride. All levels welcome. There are friendly people out there.

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    If your bike works for you and you love riding it, then ride it and to heck with what others think. Unless, of course, you ran into them.
    Seriously, the whole 29 vs. 26. vs. 650B debate is about as sensible as the GM vs. Dodge vs. Ford debate with pickups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prairiedownhill View Post
    If your bike works for you and you love riding it, then ride it and to heck with what others think. Unless, of course, you ran into them.
    Seriously, the whole 29 vs. 26. vs. 650B debate is about as sensible as the GM vs. Dodge vs. Ford debate with pickups.
    Ford please.

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    Has anyone riding a 26 experienced smug on the trail?

    Quote Originally Posted by Prairiedownhill View Post
    If your bike works for you and you love riding it, then ride it and to heck with what others think. Unless, of course, you ran into them.
    Seriously, the whole 29 vs. 26. vs. 650B debate is about as sensible as the GM vs. Dodge vs. Ford debate with pickups.
    Or how about blonde, brunette or redhead?
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    Or how about blonde, brunette or redhead?
    No debate there, the answer is yes.

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    I say ride what you got..... its not about the bike , its about the rider..... my bikes are old.... a 97 rockhopper and an old murray from about 1990.... I pretty much built them from what was available..... I have not had steady work since 2010.... got my bikes cheap at garage sales or bikes I picked up for free... right now I am trying to come up with enough cash to replace the bottom bracket on the rockhopper......if somebody makes fun of my bikes I tell them I will gladly take donations for a new bike..... that generally shuts most people up..... my bikes are what I can afford and they work for me......as far as other people even if they are riding an $80 roadmaster at least they are out riding it........ better than the internet bikers that never ride the bike and it just sits there looking new.......it seems some people these days want to have something more expensive than the next guy......what ever... I just care about riding no matter what kind of bike it is
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    Smugness on the trail? If I ever get it I just point to my shirt:
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    Re: Has anyone riding a 26 experienced smug on the trail?

    Quote Originally Posted by BumpityBump View Post
    I don't understand all this talking people do about wheel size etc. on the trail??? I never really talk to anyone except a riding partner if I have one. I just go ride and come home. Seems weird to me.
    I'm the same way. I'm not trying to be rude but usually during the week especially I don't have the time. It takes me 45 minutes to do a lap at the local trail, and I work from home. I'll set a model up to render out and go for a ride once or twice a day. I don't have time to stand around and argue about wheel size because I've got to get home. Luckily I can remote desktop from my phone so I'll stop mid way to set up another, or redo something if i messed up a setting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _CJ View Post
    I can barely go for a ride without running into some level of condescension from riders on "modern" bikes. Comments about how my bike is "old school", or "holy crap, you rode that, on that?!?!", and asking when I'm going to "upgrade".

    Funny how many of those idiots I've ridden off my wheel lately.
    I am fortunate to have a friend who is a monster, alien rider

    he has ONE bike he has ridden since time began, and still rides today.

    a 1950-something schwinn one-speed coaster brake, one-piece crank with the cups tack-welded to bb, old school 26 inch crap wheels (swapped out with other junk wheels when they blow) with pig-iron bike rack and pig iron bars. cheapest tires ever

    it is heavily modified in that...everywhere it broke in the past is now welded/shimmed double. now it cannot break, ever. also, it has concrete rebar welded in as a seat post. thing weighs in the high 40's.

    Now, he used to show up at races and get laughed at. cutoff jeans, farmer shirt, farmer shoes...3 years running he never came in lower than third...racing expert and racing people all kitted up and light bikes and everything.

    no one laughs now, he is legendary in these parts. I ride his bike once in a while and I cannot really figure out how to coaster-brake mtb very well, but this bike just GOES through the woods and through the mung like nothing else. Plus this guy is a beast and can ride circles about anyone he sets his mind to ride circles around. Bike shop offered to supply him with a 19lb litespeed -free- with all the fixin's and he refused...only wants to ride the schwinn,.

    tl;dr: 26 inch tank...gets laughed at...he laughs last.

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    Nope. I see all wheel sizes on the trails. I old bikes and new bikes. And older bikes are all going to be 26"ers. I've had some compliments on my 14 y.o. Cannondale too.

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    I've noticed the opposite. Most riders, no matter what size, always seem very nice. I have a 29er hardtail and a 26 rigid and when I go out on the 26 everyone is friendly and it starts up a lot of conversation about being on a rigid that in all honesty, probably doesn't belong on some of the trails I take it to.

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    Has anyone riding a 26 experienced smug on the trail?

    Quote Originally Posted by caboose302 View Post
    I've noticed the opposite. Most riders, no matter what size, always seem very nice. I have a 29er hardtail and a 26 rigid and when I go out on the 26 everyone is friendly and it starts up a lot of conversation about being on a rigid that in all honesty, probably doesn't belong on some of the trails I take it to.
    It "belongs" wherever you can ride it and have fun. But no reverse smug on that bad boy, eh?
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    Haha I get teased a lot because it's an old POS Huffy that weighs more than I do. I was into road bikes when I was younger so this was my first mtb. Figure I'm just going to ride it until it breaks. Usually the conversation starts when I pass some people on their high-end bikes. My buddy jokingly told me to tell them "skill is built, not bought".

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    Not trying to be "the guy" on the forum but why is there a post asking everyone if you get ridiculed for riding a 26er on the trail? I mean are there riders out there outside of the internet that really care that much about what you are riding? I mean are there gangs of 29er riders wearing black leather jackets and plum smugglers waiting in ambush behind the rocks and trees to jump someone who rides by on a 26er?

    I mean I guess we can ask if someone has been harassed for having rim brakes by the disc brake crowd or those riding flats being hazed by the clipless folks.

    Honestly, I haven't met anyone in the 8 years I have been riding who gave a rats butt about what I was riding. Bring on more threads like this...they are entertaining.
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    Ha, this thread indirectly made me of that How to be a Mountain Biker video when he says "pick your wheel size and be a dick about it".

    Seriously though I ride a 26" AM couple years old in an area that's mostly 29"/27.5" - never noticed this.

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    I think everyone kind of checks out other people's bike when they're on the trail. I do it not to judge, but just out of curiosity. Everyone seems to be on a Giant, Trek or Specialized. I always look for people who are riding 650Bs just to get some feedback from them and on some trails, some say they prefer their 26ers at times. I've been a huge supporter of the 26ers but if I find a good deal on a 650B, then I might be inclined to pick one up. But a good majority of the riders that I've come across on the trails are still on their 26ers.

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    Has anyone riding a 26 experienced smug on the trail?

    Where I live, there's often bike, wheel, component discussion in parking lots at trail heads. No smug. Mosty legit questions like: "I've heard a lot about that Enduro 29'er, but have never seen one in the wild. How do you like it? What did were on before you got it?" Or "are those Enves ?Seriously? What bank did you rob?" That kind if shyte. Trails are for riding, not idle conversation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shakester View Post
    I think everyone kind of checks out other people's bike when they're on the trail. I do it not to judge, but just out of curiosity. Everyone seems to be on a Giant, Trek or Specialized. I always look for people who are riding 650Bs just to get some feedback from them and on some trails, some say they prefer their 26ers at times. I've been a huge supporter of the 26ers but if I find a good deal on a 650B, then I might be inclined to pick one up. But a good majority of the riders that I've come across on the trails are still on their 26ers.
    Yep..the gear is fun and its cool to see what is out there..no judgement...but still...crush...souls
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    Re: Has anyone riding a 26 experienced smug on the trail?

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    ...I mean are there gangs of 29er riders wearing black leather jackets and plum smugglers waiting in ambush...
    Plum smugglers. I'm adding that to my vocabulary.

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    I'm smug no matter....
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    Has anyone riding a 26 experienced smug on the trail?

    Quote Originally Posted by Germany_chris View Post
    I'm smug no matter....
    Well, you're German. You can't help it. Genetic

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    Put some 2.35's on your 26" bike....Not much of a difference in rolling circumference compared to the average 27.5's No one will notice the difference!
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    I had never thought about this until now. All my riding mates are just relaxed and friendly dudes. I've never felt any smugness from them, but I guess I ride a 26. Come to think of it, we do come across riders on bikes that are not 26 from time to time, but I just don't remember the meetings. I've never seen any smugness on our trails, but now I'm going to pay more attention

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    I just helped a buddy rebuild an old spesh for his GF. It has:

    Steel frame
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    26" wheels
    Square taper BB
    Canti brakes
    7 speed cassette

    I only hope she doesn't get jumped on her way to work by a gang of carbon 29ers.

    I was reading through this thread and gonna post the same thing. I've never met one person who cared about wheel size or really anything other than commenting about being a beast for riding SS or curious about some the 1x setup or whatever. I can't even tell what what wheel size someone is riding by looking, I'd have to read the rim or something, lol! Only on the internet do people obsess about these minutiae of bike gear.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lawson Raider View Post
    Not trying to be "the guy" on the forum but why is there a post asking everyone if you get ridiculed for riding a 26er on the trail? I mean are there riders out there outside of the internet that really care that much about what you are riding? I mean are there gangs of 29er riders wearing black leather jackets and plum smugglers waiting in ambush behind the rocks and trees to jump someone who rides by on a 26er?

    I mean I guess we can ask if someone has been harassed for having rim brakes by the disc brake crowd or those riding flats being hazed by the clipless folks.

    Honestly, I haven't met anyone in the 8 years I have been riding who gave a rats butt about what I was riding. Bring on more threads like this...they are entertaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwt View Post
    Well, you're German. You can't help it. Genetic

    LOL
    Not German
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    Has anyone riding a 26 experienced smug on the trail?

    Quote Originally Posted by Germany_chris View Post
    Not German
    Just your handle is. Are you stationed there ?
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    People can be a holes... it is usually stemmed from insecurity. Someone with a bmf bike that is a cool rider isn't going to be an a hole. Sales guy I met at my LBS is a racer with a SWEET all carbon Epic, prob upwards of 7k. He was one of the nicest down to earth guys Ive met yet in regards to this sport... He even knew we likely werent buying a bike from him since my wife already had a Lust on layaway which we told him when we walked in. Anyway, imo its all about the ride, and being able to enjoy nature and not be at work... some people really just need to calm down before they have a stroke at the age of 40 over some stupid non important BS like what wheels some guy has on a bike he saw in the woods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwt View Post
    Just your handle is. Are you stationed there ?
    I never was but I married a German and came here after I got out but yes I do work for the Army and have now for 10 years. If I can't land a gig on the economy I'll head back to the states in 2016 for a couple years, I'm thinking about trying for Alaska but the Army is going to want to send me back to Hawaii.
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    Totally OT, but having worked in AK quite a bit and been to the major HI islands I know where I'd move, cost of living be damned.

    I mean, anchorage is shockingly expensive anyway considering the kind of town it is. Can't get fresh fruits and veggies, winter is horrible, lots of kooks. And the no sun/always sun thing just jacks you up.

    I know you'd probably be in honolulu which isn't ideal IMO but still I'd rather live in a studio apartment there than anywhere in AK.

    Quote Originally Posted by Germany_chris View Post
    I never was but I married a German and came here after I got out but yes I do work for the Army and have now for 10 years. If I can't land a gig on the economy I'll head back to the states in 2016 for a couple years, I'm thinking about trying for Alaska but the Army is going to want to send me back to Hawaii.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_slacker View Post
    Totally OT, but having worked in AK quite a bit and been to the major HI islands I know where I'd move, cost of living be damned.

    I mean, anchorage is shockingly expensive anyway considering the kind of town it is. Can't get fresh fruits and veggies, winter is horrible, lots of kooks. And the no sun/always sun thing just jacks you up.

    I know you'd probably be in honolulu which isn't ideal IMO but still I'd rather live in a studio apartment there than anywhere in AK.
    The cost of living of either place pales in comparison to Stuttgart. My studio in Ewa Beach was 850+ utilities I'd be really hard pressed to find a studio here for the same price in Euros. I liked Hawaii a lot but it's one of those been there done that things I've lived there ridden on all the islands so there really isn't much new to do there. AK has mountains and you have to be a little tougher to live up there which appeals to me, then there is Kodiak island which is a place I've always wanted to visit. I have an old Army buddy that happens to lives in Point Barrow which is another place that I'd like to see even if it's only for a couple days as much to say I've been there as anything else. Realistically I'd end up at JBER so EVERYTHING would be a flight buy my wife will not be coming with so I'll have the time to do things.
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    Got passed by a guy on a 29er. He was going too fast to see if he was being smug. I passed another guy on a 29er, twice actually. I was going too fast to see if he was being smug. Ran into a group of riders, two guys and two women who seemed pretty friendly. I didn't even notice any of their wheel sizes except for the guy on the fatbike. Saw some smug dudes all geared up hanging around a pickup truck talking about their bikes. I think they'd probably be smug regardless of wheel size.

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    I'm with you. If you're looking for an experience then AK certainly is that.

    There is a lot of good riding and obviously plenty of backcountry in AK. Lots of critters as well. I'm always bikeless out there but I've done plenty of trail running. It's kind of a short season, but you could always get a fatbike for the winter or just ski, snowshoe, etc... in the long winter. Or just drink like everybody else.

    Quote Originally Posted by Germany_chris View Post
    The cost of living of either place pales in comparison to Stuttgart. My studio in Ewa Beach was 850+ utilities I'd be really hard pressed to find a studio here for the same price in Euros. I liked Hawaii a lot but it's one of those been there done that things I've lived there ridden on all the islands so there really isn't much new to do there. AK has mountains and you have to be a little tougher to live up there which appeals to me, then there is Kodiak island which is a place I've always wanted to visit. I have an old Army buddy that happens to lives in Point Barrow which is another place that I'd like to see even if it's only for a couple days as much to say I've been there as anything else. Realistically I'd end up at JBER so EVERYTHING would be a flight buy my wife will not be coming with so I'll have the time to do things.

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