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    gas prices - can i get an amen (xpost)

    Holy bonus! 2 months ago, My local gas station had regular unleaded at $3.01. Today it's at $2.11.

    Who would have thunk it. I've never seen a drop this steep before. Let's count our blessings guys. This means more money for bike parts! Or beer.

    check:
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    I'm waiting on $1.99!

    What's your local gas station at??

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    Price fixing?

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    What's your local gas station at??
    Santa Fe, New Mexico - $2.49 per gallon

    30 minutes down the road - $2.21 per gallon

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    $2.06 here

    In suburban Philadelphia. You can find it at no-name stations as well as some of the majors.
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    I beleive I've been in my car once in the past 2 & 1/2 weeks.

    Nevertheless, good to see the prices dip a bit.

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    P.S. Gotta say that I do see some benefit in the increased cost of gas. Companies need to make smaller and far more fuel efficient cars. Nothing like market incentive to get the job done.

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    $2.02 here in NW Florida...although prices took a one day jump into the teens. Don't know what that was about.

    When prices were around $3 a gallon gas stations should've had kleenex available at the pumps. Needed something for the tears.
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    $2.46 here on the Army post on Schofield. However, the gas cap went up 7 cents--so we should be seeing $2.55 or so again.

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    I paid $1.98 last night in SW Idaho. Surprised the heck out of me because we're usually above average.
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    The prices here in Hendersonville, NC are pretty varied. The places close to the interstate that are outside of town are around $1.98. Go towards downtown or Laurel Park and the price is as much as $2.19.

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    I paid $2.25 yesterday morning. It's running about $2.30-$2-35 where I work in San Diego. Definintely nice. It was up around $2.80 not too long ago. Hope this continues

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    I'd like to see it below 2 bucks

    The cheapest i found the other day was $ 2.17.
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    ya, right

    we're at 93.9 cents (cdn) per litre in Toronto, about 3.50 USD/U.S. gallon...and we're net oil exporters

    gotta love all that tax up here

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    Good job! Aaaaaaaaa Men!

    Along the Wasatch Front, the greater Salt Lake Area.
    I paid $1.87 last night, and http://www.saltlakegasprices.com/ shows $1.79.
    I say let's continue with this downward trend!

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    Screw that!! We've been gettting reamed since '00. When it gets BACK to AT LEAST $1.50/gal, THEN I'll celebrate.

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    I've seen it at $1.99 at a few places here in NH.
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    No amen here.

    I want higher prices. So high that people start riding bikes. Fewer cars. That's my passion. But I don't have much company. I thought I'd have some here, but I guess not.









    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    Holy bonus! 2 months ago, My local gas station had regular unleaded at $3.01. Today it's at $2.11.

    Who would have thunk it. I've never seen a drop this steep before. Let's count our blessings guys. This means more money for bike parts! Or beer.

    check:
    http://www.sanfrangasprices.com/

    I'm waiting on $1.99!

    What's your local gas station at??

    francois

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg K
    I want higher prices. So high that people start riding bikes. Fewer cars. That's my passion. But I don't have much company. I thought I'd have some here, but I guess not.

    Gregg, i'm with you.
    I love seeing the gas prices really high, because you start seeing news stories about how SUVs are impractical, selfish and inefficient. And you see stories about mass transit, commuting by bike, and living responsibly.
    When gas prices are low, no one cares about that stuff. It's a really strange industry, the whole oil thing.

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    Still leading the nation here on Maui at 2.85

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    $2.03 this am

    but i bought gas in SC for $1.93 thanksgiving weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg K
    I want higher prices. So high that people start riding bikes. Fewer cars. That's my passion. But I don't have much company. I thought I'd have some here, but I guess not.
    I'm with you. Gas prices need to be increased, but gradually. The big hikes are unpopular. Hey folks, gas prices have actually decreased in inflation-adjusted dollars, the recent hike was an adjustment.

    Things are going down now, but they will go back up sooner or later.

    Gas for heating the home, on the other hand... I wish that would go down. We used to keep it cold in the house and heat with wood, but with a baby and a toddler we have to keep it relatively warm and have decided not to burn wood this year for fear of the little man burning himself. I have been tracking down every draft!!!

    High fuel costs might mean less bike parts for you, but it means life or death for poor families in cold climates. So I understand the positive side of cheap oil.
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    It's been going up around here (Maine)....was 1.98 gone up to 2.15 Bastages

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    The economic damage has been done. The cost of everything from grocerys to plastics , building materials to shipping costs has skyrocketed based on the higher oil price. Now that the price went down will the cost of living also go down ? Hell no ! After the real estate mogels made a killing now it big businesses turn to profit from the war.
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    Gas prices are too low

    It's pathetic that this thread only has 3 or 4 people who have said anything about how bad low gas prices are. Yes, bad.

    Without turning this into a political discussion, consider:
    -Riding your bike instead of driving is good for you, it's good for the air, it's good for the little critters that get run over in the road every day.
    -Riding your bike makes it easier for _everyone_ to get around - fewer traffic jams, less need to expand the local superhighway from 14 ro 18 lanes, etc, etc.
    -Even if you don't buy the global warming stuff, or think it's too late for much to help (like me), burning gas certainly isn't _good_ for the environment in any significant way.
    -The US is involved in all sorts of unsavory business internationally in order to keep gas prices low. Since I'm not intending to make this a political discussion, that's all I'll say on the subject.
    -Low gas prices help everyone ignore everything I just wrote.

    Do I own a car? Sure. I use it to haul big loads of stuff to the powdercoater and for the occasional road trip. I'm not perfect either. But if high gas prices will make people just STOP AND CONSIDER how they use their cars - ie think about carpooling, riding/walking for short trips, getting a more fuel efficient vehicle, etc, then I am ALL FOR IT. What kind of sense does it make to have a road clogged with people sitting all alone in 2000+ pound vehicles?!?

    So up, up, up, says I. $5 a gallon would be a good minimum to start from. $10 a gallon would be ok too. Tax individuals and let industrial/business users get a break so that other commodity prices don't take a huge hit, then use the excess funds to build more bike lanes, or pay teachers more, or whatever.

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    No amen

    I agree with Gregg et al
    the higher the gas prices the better, it 0.81$ up here and i think we should be paying the true cost for gasoline. Damn gas subsidies, so stupid, they wouldnt have to subsidize renewable sources of energy, they are cleaner to. A solution that is economical, environmental and ethical, what a concept.
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    don't vote NDP if you want your job and the money you make from it....look at any province with an NDP government...they have lost money their economies are the pits....then look at alberta conservative run...and we are rolling in the largest surpluses ever....educate yourself be for you vote on JAn. 23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt
    It's pathetic that this thread only has 3 or 4 people who have said anything about how bad low gas prices are. Yes, bad.

    Without turning this into a political discussion, consider:
    -Riding your bike instead of driving is good for you, it's good for the air, it's good for the little critters that get run over in the road every day.
    -Riding your bike makes it easier for _everyone_ to get around - fewer traffic jams, less need to expand the local superhighway from 14 ro 18 lanes, etc, etc.
    -Even if you don't buy the global warming stuff, or think it's too late for much to help (like me), burning gas certainly isn't _good_ for the environment in any significant way.
    -The US is involved in all sorts of unsavory business internationally in order to keep gas prices low. Since I'm not intending to make this a political discussion, that's all I'll say on the subject.
    -Low gas prices help everyone ignore everything I just wrote.

    Do I own a car? Sure. I use it to haul big loads of stuff to the powdercoater and for the occasional road trip. I'm not perfect either. But if high gas prices will make people just STOP AND CONSIDER how they use their cars - ie think about carpooling, riding/walking for short trips, getting a more fuel efficient vehicle, etc, then I am ALL FOR IT. What kind of sense does it make to have a road clogged with people sitting all alone in 2000+ pound vehicles?!?

    So up, up, up, says I. $5 a gallon would be a good minimum to start from. $10 a gallon would be ok too. Tax individuals and let industrial/business users get a break so that other commodity prices don't take a huge hit, then use the excess funds to build more bike lanes, or pay teachers more, or whatever.

    </end rant>

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    absolutely walt.....the only problem i have with that is that i have relatives over 600km away that we like to see once in a while and even at .80/litre (3.03/gallon) (in alberta one of the largest exporters of oil in the western world) its quite costly to drive that distance...so it seems that we're doing less and less often
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt
    It's pathetic that this thread only has 3 or 4 people who have said anything about how bad low gas prices are. Yes, bad.

    -Walt
    No kidding, Walt. I thought the thread title was saying "amen" to the positive effects that the higher gas prices are bringing...
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    Oh yeah, AMEN!

    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    Holy bonus! 2 months ago, My local gas station had regular unleaded at $3.01. Today it's at $2.11.

    Who would have thunk it. I've never seen a drop this steep before. Let's count our blessings guys. This means more money for bike parts! Or beer.

    check:
    http://www.sanfrangasprices.com/

    I'm waiting on $1.99!

    What's your local gas station at??

    francois
    Cheapest Chevron I've seen in Everett (about 0.5 hour north of Seattle minus traffic, for you non-Washingtonians) is $2.21/gallon for regular, $2.31 for plus and $2.41 for premium. Not bad at all when compared to $3+ just a short while ago. On a fill up of a ten gallon tank that saves you $7.90 a tank when using regular. If you fill up once a week that's roughly $32 per month. It definitely adds up!

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    its a shame when were happy for $2 a gallon! Look at the rise since 2000...I think they bump it up every year to unbelievable(at the time) prices then back off half of that and the public does cartwheels...next summer its gonna hit closer to $4 and when it goes back down to 2.80 we'll be happy again?

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    Prices need to go back up

    The only way people in America are going to wake up is for prices to go up higher and stay high. Then maybe we will get off our asses and make a viable substitute for gas power. The only thing we care about is our money, start taking that and people get motivated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by airwreck
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    Nope. I gotcha beat. $2.90, Snowmass Village, Co. Although to be fair, that was on Tuesday. Not sure what it is, now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymous
    Nope. I gotcha beat. $2.90, Snowmass Village, Co. Although to be fair, that was on Tuesday. Not sure what it is, now.
    actually that's our lowest, the more remote areas are 3+.
    going up .07 (wholesale) next week thanks to the "gas cap".

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    No Amen

    I'm with Gregg et al on this one. Lower gas prices are bad for the US. Bad in so many ways. What a shock to see how many people don't realize this. And good to see the many that do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg K
    I want higher prices. So high that people start riding bikes. Fewer cars. That's my passion. But I don't have much company. I thought I'd have some here, but I guess not.
    I'm with you too. More bikes less cars - that's what I want for christmas.
    This is just need to know information: Am i supposed to enjoy the irony or pity the sincerity?

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    Paying $3.35 and happy to do it

    I'm paying my local co-op $3.35 for B80 Biodiesel made 80% from good old American grown soybeans.

    Biodiesel is:

    * more biodegradable than sugar and less toxic than table salt.
    * produced from domestic feedstocks, reducing the need for foreign oil while boosting the local economy and supporting the agricultural community.

    Biodiesel can reduce net CO2 emissions by 78 percent compared with petroleum diesel fuel, cutting greenhouse gases that lead to global warming.

    And I love that only 20% (99% in the summer) of my fuel dollar is going into the pockets of BIG OIL.

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    Well, it was more than 1.25 per litre over here...

    In the Czech Republic, which would equal about $5.63 a gallon. The bad news about that is there are still quite a few large cars and SUVs here even though most people here make about a thousand dollars a month. (The Russian mob and other well to do business men have to drive something I guess)

    The good news is there are a lot more bikes used for travel, although not as many as say in Holland. Also people dont get in a car to drive somewhere that is just around the block, they just walk. I dont think higher gas prices alone would do it in the States. (I think I read some where that from a national survey gas would have to go above 5 bucks a gallon before a significant number of people would start thinking about alternate means of commuting) I think what needs to happen is that someone responsible in the government starts enforcing the fuel economy laws that have been in place for 20 odd years now and stop letting junk like the H2 get classified as a commercial truck.

    But then again I guess Im just dreaming about how America should be again....oh well, I am happy for all of you back there that gas prices dipped noticably in time for the holidays.

    BTW, a lot of times those goofy one day / one week price jumps are from speculators. The public gets to pay th price for a bunch of uber rich guys making money off whether or not the gas price will go up or down. Enough of them believe its gonna go up and voila Price Spike! Ahhh the joys of capitalism....

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    I agree with Walt and the others. Americans are too reliant on gasoline. If gas prices were higher, many things would be better. We wouldn't have to piss everyone else of by starting wars and not signing things like the kyoto treaty. Or digging holes in Alaskan wilderness...

    Sadly, I am dependant on my automobile too, and I'm glad it's down to 2.09 in NE CT if you look in the right places.

    At least I don't drive an H2..

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    Don't get too excited

    These "deals" we are getting at the pump are only temporary. Many reports indicate that gas prices will begin rising again soon. Give it about a month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg K
    I want higher prices. So high that people start riding bikes. Fewer cars. That's my passion. But I don't have much company. I thought I'd have some here, but I guess not.
    I'm with you. Let the gas for cars go. I hate to see home heating costs, go high since could have an impact on low income families, but for cars, it could go to $5 a gallon for all I care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg K
    I want higher prices. So high that people start riding bikes. Fewer cars. That's my passion. But I don't have much company. I thought I'd have some here, but I guess not.
    I'm all in favor of high gas prices! Existing gas taxes don't come close to paying the costs of our vehicle-addicted lifestyle here in the US, which means those of us who use our vehicles responsibility are subsidising those who don't via other taxes.

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    I agree

    First thing Wasach has ever said that makes sense, although $10/gal is a bit ridiculous. I'm a big time Republican, but I really wanted to see gas prices go even higher to 4 or 5/gal. It's nice to see the hybrid cars come out, and new engine technologies that reduces # of cylinders in use on hwy.

    But worry not, the prices will rise again! We are on the off season, where demand goes down, so prices go down. It's all about supply and demand, as every aspect of life is......

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    Holy bonus! 2 months ago, My local gas station had regular unleaded at $3.01. Today it's at $2.11.

    Who would have thunk it. I've never seen a drop this steep before. Let's count our blessings guys. This means more money for bike parts! Or beer.

    check:
    http://www.sanfrangasprices.com/

    I'm waiting on $1.99!

    What's your local gas station at??

    francois

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    Quote Originally Posted by Structure
    I'm with Gregg et al on this one. Lower gas prices are bad for the US. Bad in so many ways. What a shock to see how many people don't realize this. And good to see the many that do.
    Here in Norway it is $5.6 per gallon......

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    2.18 gal in Sundance Still not low enough....

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    Sorry, I agree with Francoiis

    I've seen it at $2.15 a gallon here, I'm sure its dropped a little bit (Phoenix, AZ).

    Look, I'm happy for it to go down right now. I work 20 miles away from my house, ok. I work in a corporate setting, with no showers and nothing close to use for that purpose. Now, I have made many, many attempts to commute in, but its very, very difficult. I don't have a place to store clothes, my building does not really support commuting, etc.

    I would love to park my car for good and live by my bike. But right now, in my current situation, it ain't gonna happen. So until it does, I'd like to see it continue to drop. Props to the people who can go without, I hope to join you one day.

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    It was $1.97 a week ago!!!!!Now, $3.02

    In Lynnfield/Peobody Massachusetts, it was $1.97 over a week ago. Now it's $3.02. Odd is't it?
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    My take...

    I guess its around $2.09 in CT.

    As much as I would like to rid myself of my car, its not possible here in suburbia. The closest "convenience" store is 4-5 miles and 600 vertical feet away (all uphill on the way back). The closest grocery store is perhaps 7 or 8 miles away and many hills between here and there. Today there's 12" of new snow on the ground.

    Both my kids are active and seem to have places to go just about every day, these places are between 15 and 20 miles away.

    I have pretty much always bought new cars and drive them until they die. I told myself my last car would be a hybrid, but 8 years ago when I bought it the hybrids and electrics were not up to snuff. Now I work from home, so commuting is not an issue.

    Bottom line - its easy to say "get rid of your car" if your lifestyle/location allows, but its simply not possible for me. All the super high gas prices will do is make it more expensive for me to live. I don't make stupid trips with my cars, so its just money out of my pocket.

    Incidentally my house is outfitted with oil heat, but I heat it with wood. I love having my house at 70 degrees all winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jisch
    I have pretty much always bought new cars and drive them until they die. I told myself my last car would be a hybrid, but 8 years ago when I bought it the hybrids and electrics were not up to snuff. Now I work from home, so commuting is not an issue.

    Bottom line - its easy to say "get rid of your car" if your lifestyle/location allows, but its simply not possible for me. All the super high gas prices will do is make it more expensive for me to live. I don't make stupid trips with my cars, so its just money out of my pocket.

    Incidentally my house is outfitted with oil heat, but I heat it with wood. I love having my house at 70 degrees all winter.

    John

    Hear, hear. It's good to listen to folks varying opinions on gas at $10/gallon. Idealistic for sure but I do hear the message.

    What really hurts though is the billions and billions the oil monopolies make in pure profit when gas prices are even just $3. It is so twisted it gives me a headache.

    I think the message, specially from mountain bikers is consume less, pollute less. I think we I can try to live with that in our daily routines.

    A couple of things though...

    My daily commute is 75 miles roundtrip!! I used to bike that for two years during the warm months. Maaaaan, talk about a death wish. There is nothing more deadly than bike commuting. I think it is just a bad combination to be out there with commuters.

    Kids- kids need cars. We're always driving the little tykes around... school, sports and parties. We are slaves to the kids!

    Trails are far away. I have to drive there, period. Road biking from the doorstep is actually an eco-friendly change.

    francois

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singletrack Pig
    I'm paying my local co-op $3.35 for B80 Biodiesel made 80% from good old American grown soybeans.

    Biodiesel is:

    * more biodegradable than sugar and less toxic than table salt.
    * produced from domestic feedstocks, reducing the need for foreign oil while boosting the local economy and supporting the agricultural community.

    Biodiesel can reduce net CO2 emissions by 78 percent compared with petroleum diesel fuel, cutting greenhouse gases that lead to global warming.

    And I love that only 20% (99% in the summer) of my fuel dollar is going into the pockets of BIG OIL.

    Cheers

    And on top of all that you get to drive a pimp’n Benz.
    You are my "Eco Hero" Singletrack Pig.

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