I love dogs. I love dogs more than people. I've never seen a dog stab another dog in the back for a promotion, or kill another dog over a religious dissagreement. This being so stated, on with the business at hand.
The number of times I've had to lock up a brake and skid to a stop to avoid an unleashed dog, kinda kills my passion for your four legged friend on the trail. Why should I have to be at risk for serious injury or death because of your lifestyle choice? Oh, wait. Were we talking about second hand smoke, or dogs.
Why should I have to be at risk for serious injury or death because of your lifestyle choice? Oh, wait. Were we talking about second hand smoke, or dogs.
That argument is amazingly laughable.
Who do you blame when the bee bites you on the nose riding on the trail?
Oh wait, you suffer from entitlement issues-- that the trail should be only for you and every moment with the events that happen on the trail is in your complete control, don't you? Well biking is about dealing with obstacles and challenges. Dogs are just another form of them.
When you go skiing do you complain about the skiers who are slow and get in your way too, causing you to almost whipe out?
Accept that people have dogs on some trails and get over it. If you know the bar has smokers, don't hang out in those bars if you want to avoid the risk. It's very simple.
Personally, I just run over a dog if it's in my way on the trail...they are fairly tough and easy to train with negative reinforcement.
Where I go I seldom see anyone else.
It is however mostly public forest and public land and I have just has much right to be there with my dog and use it in my way as the guy without one or the person on a horse or the person on a motorcycle or the birdwatcher or fisherman or hunter.
I understand there motivations and reasons for being there and respect that and acomadate them and am courtious an tolerant of them.
Most if not all are the same for me.
If someone told me I can't let my dog off the leash even out in the middle of the woods. Well.. I mean come on
I am not entitled to anything that I don't earn. What I do earn (by way of my job, and then taxes) is a general belief, that other jerks aren't gonna endanger my life any more than I do theirs. You wanna go for all out anarchy, go for it. I'll be waiting for you ,loser.
I am not entitled to anything that I don't earn. What I do earn (by way of my job, and then taxes) is a general belief, that other jerks aren't gonna endanger my life any more than I do theirs. You wanna go for all out anarchy, go for it. I'll be waiting for you ,loser.
Your tax dollars earn you the right to be in the woods. That's it. What it doesn't give you is the right right to dictate what others do in the woods. Learn to ride your bike with enough skill to avoid hazards! How bout that! Leave your tax paying sense of entitlement at the house. And do you really feel a dog endangers your tax paying ass? Skilz please. Oh, anarchy is rule w/o law. We have laws, and usually, on National Forest lands, unleashed dogs, do not break these laws. Get over it, Loser.
In any given space with different users theres going to be a conflict of interest over how the space is used. I feel as long as dog owners take reasonable steps to ensure there dog is not creating a hazard by training them as pups not to chase cyclists, sitting/coming to heel when called first time ect; there is no problem. Its about sharing and compromising for the sake of everyones enjoyment.
Any number of naturally occuring obstacles such as fallen trees or wild animals may cause you to slow down. Slower, perhaps nervous begginer trail riders may also clog up single track. We wouldn't remove them would we!
I ride with my dog. While she's a really good trail dog, she sometimes pisses me off when she won't get out of my way. When I ride with other people, it is my responsibility to make sure I'm the only one she pisses off.
If you run into us on the trails and she's in your way, give her a little shout and a little bump if that's not enough. If you're fast enough that she gets in your way while riding fast, then you should have sufficient skills to achieve that. Apply your skills and you won't wipe out...
Not sure about yours but mine go bonkers when I say BIKE.
Indy is a German Shepherd and he runs trail like it's his job. If I say "ride" or "bike", he goes crazy. If I touch my bike, he runs to the front door and waits.
To the dog haters out there...
Indy is trained to run right behind my bike and as long as you leave him alone, he probably won't even pay any attention to you because he is too busy doing his job. He has never caused anyone any problems on the trail. AND I haven't had issues with anyone else's dogs when I ride.
To the dog owners out there...
Show respect to others by making sure your dog is properly trained. Riding buddies, other trail users and even YOUR DOG will respect you more. Use your head. Leave the pooch at home when you know it is the right thing to do.
I wish I really could be as wonderful as my dog thinks I am.
Cheers for some of the positive posts, They are very inteligent and obey all commands. If you thought what could happen to you every day you'd be so scared....
Why should I have to be at risk for serious injury or death because of your lifestyle choice?
your "lifestyle choice" of riding a mountain bike puts you at risk of serious injury or even death BY DEFAULT. what's the difference between a dog running loose on the trail and a rabbit? or a deer? or even another human being for that matter?
a dog running loose on the trail off leash just gives you someone else to blame. a good rider rides under control, and has a pretty decent sense of what's going on around him. if you're flying blindly downhill and around corners with little to no concern for what may lie ahead, then its not the fault of anyone other than yourself if you hit someone, someone's pet or even a tree.
You CHOOSE to have a dog. That doesn't give you the right to impose your choice on me. Go smoke a turd, loser.
BTW, this post wil be removed by PC, cowards, that call themselves moderators.
so YOUR choice to ride a mountain bike is greater and more important than the choices of any other trail users? say, a hiker? a hiker with a dog? a biker with a dog? i must've missed the sign at the trailhead that stated the trails could only be used according to YOUR choices.
I like dogs... but I have seen a few people not have them in control -- I've been almost attacked twice by dogs (good thing I was doing downhill and was able to out run them, and the owners finally got them under control). If I had a dog I'd go with it on a trail, but I thought it was illegal to have an unleashed dog on public (any) lands? At least, I thought it was in New York state, but please correct me if I am wrong.
I love dogs. I love dogs a lot. I've ridden with guys who have their dogs hauling ass right with us, head right off their back wheel. But I also have a nice scar across the bridge of my nose from where I went over the bars after trying to avoid a dog not on a leash. I would consider having a dog not on a leash the same as being a d**k on the trails. It's a matter of etiquette.
I love dogs. I love dogs a lot. I've ridden with guys who have their dogs hauling ass right with us, head right off their back wheel. But I also have a nice scar across the bridge of my nose from where I went over the bars after trying to avoid a dog not on a leash. I would consider having a dog not on a leash the same as being a d**k on the trails. It's a matter of etiquette.
Sounds like you have a scar from a lack of bike skills. A dog is easy to hop over.
I hate rude behavior in a man.....won't tolerate it. - Woodrow F Call.
Sounds like you have a scar from a lack of bike skills. A dog is easy to hop over.
This attitude sucks. There is no need to belittle him for taking evasive action and injuring himself rather than creaming the dog. Who are you to make that judgment, not having been there?
This attitude sucks. There is no need to belittle him for taking evasive action and injuring himself rather than creaming the dog. Who are you to make that judgment, not having been there?
If it comes down to me and the dog......the dog is getting the bashguard. I still know that they are easy to hop.
I hate rude behavior in a man.....won't tolerate it. - Woodrow F Call.
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Sounds like you have a scar from a lack of bike skills. A dog is easy to hop over.
