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    I bet it really pisses off the golf die-hards how popular frisbee golf has gotten.
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    Are you kidding, I'm elated! less crowded.

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    golfing sucks how wants to waste their time playing golf when you could ride mountain bikes you got to risk it to get the bisket shure don't do that playing golf

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    Quote Originally Posted by 53119 View Post
    i think pumptracks have to be the next evolution to grow interest even before trails just because of accessibility. turn golf courses into pumptracks!
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    Hey shining_trapezoid, thanks for the neg rep and ****myself, I'd like to buy a vowel, and O. I'll solve the puzzle. Golf myself. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mimi1885 View Post
    Hey shining_trapezoid, thanks for the neg rep and ****myself, I'd like to buy a vowel, and O. I'll solve the puzzle. Golf myself. Thanks.

    Join us anytime when you grow up yeah?
    Haha
    I guess i should also say that i have met a bunch of jerk offs on mountain bikes too. Im with you there someone needs to grow up.
    Maybe ill get neg rep and a "golf myself" comment now

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    and maybe ill never golf and never think about it personal preference !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mimi1885 View Post
    Hey shining_trapezoid, thanks for the neg rep and ****myself, I'd like to buy a vowel, and O. I'll solve the puzzle. Golf myself. Thanks.

    Join us anytime when you grow up yeah?
    I don't need to grow up any more than you do with your condescending self-righteous attitude. You "feel sorry for" me and you're gonna pray for me cuz I don't like golf? What the f*ck ever.

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    I think people like golf because it isn't very physically taxing and it gives them something to strive for (although it usually ends up being a bad tan and too many beers). I should know, I worked one summer at a golf course where I could also play for free. It took me the entire next summer to ride off the 20 pounds I put on being lazy and eating pizza afterwards because we were too sun-baked to do anything else. I don't see many of the people I interacted with there throwing away the clubs and buying a bike, ymmv. Thanks for the Robin Williams video! Too bad about that guy. Addiction/mental illness is f'd up. "Even the alligators are like, ahole!" HA HA HA! I know bikers like that too, though


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    Is Cycling/Mt Biking replacing golf as far as outdoor activities goes..

    Quote Originally Posted by shining_trapezoid View Post
    I don't need to grow up any more than you do with your condescending self-righteous attitude. You "feel sorry for" me and you're gonna pray for me cuz I don't like golf? What the f*ck ever.
    If you think I'd do that because you don't play golf then you don't need a prayer, you need to stay in school. Well don't do drugs and please do us all a favor don't breed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mimi1885 View Post
    If you think I'd do that because you don't play golf then you don't need a prayer, you need to stay in school. Well don't do drugs and please do us all a favor don't breed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bitflogger View Post
    Tip: You have to do it yourself and be working with land managers.
    The main problem my stewards have with the pump track idea is that 1: "It won't be popular here" and 2: "We don't have enough room on our land grant to expand with something like that"

    I would be more than willing to dig a pump track, but finding a spot where it wouldn't be bulldozed within the week is an issue in my town..

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    Wow and I thought cyclist were cool and open minded. Man was I wrong. Close minded and arrogant is how I would describe a lot of the people on this thread.

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    Why are mountain bikers all of a sudden cyclists? Yea, yea, in theory we ride bikes. Buuuut...I think there are many destinctions within the genres. You can wear many hats, but some people in the mountain bike community choose to avoid spandex, don't like dodging traffic, and enjoy a playful, if not tastless jab from time to time at the expense of golf and road riding. Put us in jail, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shining_trapezoid View Post
    Oh take your condescending BS and shove it. And golf is not a sport. It's a game.
    Golf is not a sport? Give me a break. You are obviously a closed minded idiot. I golf, cycle, snow ski, Wake surf, Wake board, grouse hunt, fish and play hockey. I wouldn't say any of these are more sports than the other. However since you aren't as well rounded you can go on saying things that are just stupid. And I'll keep playing golf at my country club, riding my Ibis Ripley, skiing Utah 3 times a year, Wake surfing behind my 2013 Malibu Wakesetter MXZ 24, grouse hunt behind my 2 setters, fish off my Whaler Outrage and play hockey with my buds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shredeveryday View Post
    golfing sucks how wants to waste their time playing golf when you could ride mountain bikes you got to risk it to get the bisket shure don't do that playing golf
    Who is how?

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    Your first two posts are rather contradicting.

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    I know this won't stop the debate or whatever, but as someone who plays golf and now mountain bikes as well. I can see where people take enjoyment from both. For different reasons. You can say that playing golf isn't as physically demanding as mountain biking, and for 99% of cases you would be correct, but does that make it any less enjoyable for the people that find happiness in it, no.. I play golf when I need a nice relaxing day of outdoor enjoyment, and when I feel like pushing myself and getting a good workout as well as the enjoyment, I bike. Or let something else decide, if I want to drink beer while I'm out, I golf. No beer, bike. Got 4 hours of daylight left, golf. Only two hours until dark, bike.. Why does it have to be a one or the other thing..? I saw someone brought up the point of land use, and I may be alone on this, but my area has no shortage of trails to ride or golf course to play. So I don't see how one would benefit from the removal of the other. In fact my local golf course is literally a 60 second drive from the trailhead of my favorite trail, but I seriously doubt the closing of the golf course would draw any new riders or attention to the trail. And the comments on the money required to golf vs bike. It all depends on what you WANT to spend, just as I'm sure you all know that you don't have to buy a $5k bike to downhill, you don't have to have a $2000 set of clubs to play, I'm a broke college student and I have the time and money to golf and ride a couple times a week each.

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    Quote Originally Posted by procos View Post
    Golf is not a sport? Give me a break. You are obviously a closed minded idiot. I golf, cycle, snow ski, Wake surf, Wake board, grouse hunt, fish and play hockey. I wouldn't say any of these are more sports than the other. However since you aren't as well rounded you can go on saying things that are just stupid. And I'll keep playing golf at my country club, riding my Ibis Ripley, skiing Utah 3 times a year, Wake surfing behind my 2013 Malibu Wakesetter MXZ 24, grouse hunt behind my 2 setters, fish off my Whaler Outrage and play hockey with my buds.
    You are obviously a complete douche bag. You don't know anything about me or how "well rounded" I am. You can go on bragging about how many expensive toys you have but it doesn't make you any better than anybody else and it doesn't make golf a sport.

    As somebody already said, if you can do it with a cigarette hanging out of your mouth, it's not a sport. A lot of golfers are total fat-as$es. Swinging a club and sitting in a cart while getting drunk is just sort of a weird activity that I'm sure some people like doing. I have just as much of a right to dislike it as you do to like it.

    I think it's pretty funny how many people get defensive and get their panties in a bunch when somebody says they don't like golf. If golf is a sport, then so is croquet, pool/billiards, chess, Tetris...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petti the Yeti View Post
    By that logic, cycling must not be a sport either, because I see dudes ripping trails with smokes all the time.
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    I smoke a pack a day. (Trust me I'd love to quit.) I'm good for about a 10 mile ride with 2k vert. Sprinting on the otherhand, I'm toast.

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    Smoking cigarettes is nasty and pointless. Just quit if you really want to all you have to do is decide to stop. Yep its that easy

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    Although I never played golf and find it boring, I did like the movie "Caddyshack". It had some real good laughs and didn't require you to be a golfer to enjoy it. But I never bothered with "Tin Cup".

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    I think golf has a couple things working against it. Many people think it costs too much money for what you get out of it, and it takes a large chunk of your day to participate in. With all the competition for people's limited disposable income and time, this activity doesn't measure up in many people's minds.

    Mountain biking, on the other hand, is a growing activity because people see it as a good value relative to cost and time commitment.

    It isn't whether golf costs more or less than other activities, and it isn't whether golf takes more or less time than other activities. It is that the cost and time commitment of participating in golf isn't winning out with the public relative to other activities that complete for people's money and time.

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    We (the MTB contingency and the park managers) had a great argument about the "impact" of MTB trails. They were asking about ongoing maintenance (valid question), but then someone on their side began ignorantly citing "habitat fragmentation", "erosion", and "sediment loading" baloney where it did not apply.
    Then we asked to compare MTB trail construction, impact, and maintenance to all the golf courses they managed.
    ...and what those maintenance costs (hours, equipment, manpower, materials) were.
    ...and what was their impact in herbicides and pesticides released into the environment.
    ...and what is their actual utilization in users per acre of impact area.

    We have a LOT more trails these days.
    I'm waiting for the fiscal reality to set in, at which time someone will cut the budget and one their golf courses will be allowed to return to its natural state and no longer be a golf course. Then maybe it will have a bike trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDK View Post
    Smoking cigarettes is nasty and pointless. Just quit if you really want to all you have to do is decide to stop. Yep its that easy
    Yes, you are absolutely correct, the best way to stop smoking is just stop. I try to reduce quantity, not working til the night I found out that my wife is pregnant, I tossed the pack and have not smoke since.

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    I smoke a pack a day. (Trust me I'd love to quit.) I'm good for about a 10 mile ride with 2k vert. Sprinting on the otherhand, I'm toast.
    Best way is just stop. I vape e-cig now, believe me it works. I change my smoking habit when I start vaping, now I do it so little it's almost like only smoking one a day. PM me if you have any question.

    I remember posting about mountain bike riding on some golf forum, most people have positive respond, and the negative ones are more like time constraint. It's a surprise to me that some here have more negative view of other sport outside mountain biking.

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    [QUOTE=mimi1885;11382964]What make you say that? I thought it was awesome. That's the main reason I went back to play this January, preparing my game for my 4 month old girl. It might not be as exciting as mountain bike but I don't think it's dumb. Why do you think it's dumb?


    Because I suck and it makes me look bad. Now having said that am I not allowed my own opinion? I am happy you enjoy it, good for you! then again its your choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IFallDown View Post


    Because I suck and it makes me look bad. Now having said that am I not allowed my own opinion? I am happy you enjoy it, good for you! then again its your choice.
    Holly crap! thanks for your honesty. It's brutal.

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    I'm actually surprised at the strong opinions being expressed about golf here. I play golf, albeit less now and only sporadically. Here are some of my thoughts on golf.

    It's an outdoor activity, beats sitting on your butt in front of the TV.

    You can make it as cheap or expensive as you want. You can get a decent set of entry level clubs for probably around $300.00 new, probably less if you buy used.

    You don't have to belong to a club to play. Green fees vary widely but you can go to a municipal course and pay less than $30.00.

    At the courses I go to most of the folks are regular joes. Everybody is friendly and courteous. The rate of Dbaggery is no more or no less than what I see on the trail.

    Is it a workout in the same way that running or cycling is? No. Does it have to be to be a workout to be a legit outdoor activity? No. However it's a bit more of a physical activity than you might realize. We always walk the course and after 9 holes you've walked between 1.5 and 3 or more miles, depending on yardage. Since when is that a bad thing?

    Most important, it's fun. Why bust on people who are merely going outside to enjoy themselves, doing something they like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mookie View Post
    We always walk the course and after 9 holes you've walked between 1.5 and 3 or more miles, depending on yardage. Since when is that a bad thing?
    I thought walking was frowned upon or not allowed... and even if it was allowed, I think most golfers would use a cart..

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    Quote Originally Posted by MtbAZ44 View Post
    I thought walking was frowned upon or not allowed... and even if it was allowed, I think most golfers would use a cart..
    LOL, it not frowned upon. We love to walk, we can use push cart or some of us use drones to carry the clubs around and when caddies are not available to carry us around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MtbAZ44 View Post
    I thought walking was frowned upon or not allowed... and even if it was allowed, I think most golfers would use a cart..
    It depends on where you go. Most country clubs require carts whereas most municipal courses don't (although some do). Other public courses may or may not require carts. I've never experienced an anti walking vibe or pressure to use a cart at those courses that don't require them.
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    I always said I would take up golf when I hit 80. Now even that sounds too young.

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    I hope airlines start treating bikes like golf equipment when it comes to baggage fees. For some reason golf equipment is exempt from oversize/overweight fees on Alaska Airlines, but not bikes.

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    I got into golf for a few years and took some lessons. Once I was playing a full 18 for a few years, I realized how much I hate golf after the 9th hole.

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    I like golf most when I'm back at the clubhouse enjoying a burger and beer and watching the golf babes.

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    Went out yesterday with my 25 year old son and played golf for the first time since 1988. Had fun but am not sure if I am ready to pick the game back up again, I figured I have 15 or so years to wait until I am 70 to really start playing. I am more then happy riding 3-5 times and week in the summer and skiing 3-5 time a week in the winter.
    Such a long long time to be gone, such a short time to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDK View Post
    Haha
    I guess i should also say that i have met a bunch of jerk offs on mountain bikes too. Im with you there someone needs to grow up.
    Maybe ill get neg rep and a "golf myself" comment now
    Hey shining_trapezoid, thanks for the neg rep and ****myself, I'd like to buy a vowel, and O. I'll solve the puzzle. Golf myself. Thanks.

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    I just don't get when posters start cursing on a forum. 'Grow up' is a start.

    I like mtb, road biking, golf, snowboarding and ultimate, but at age 59 I don't play much ultimate, which I prefer. I like mtb best but snowboarding is great and road biking is fun, too.

    Golf, for me, requires a lot of time to play and practice. It's more fun when you are in the seventies or eighties rather than triple digits for 18 holes.

    Please let me know which of these is a sport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie88 View Post
    I like golf most when I'm back at the clubhouse enjoying a burger and beer and watching the golf babes.
    Usually join by these ladies at the club houseIs Cycling/Mt Biking replacing golf as far as outdoor activities goes..-playboy_playmates_golf.jpgIs Cycling/Mt Biking replacing golf as far as outdoor activities goes..-kirsty-gallacher-golf-punk-belly-cap.jpg

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    Been biking for the past 3 year, I have dropped lbs and reacquired the addiction that I had with running prior to back surgery in 200. Golf had gone by the way side over the past 5 years. Biking has moved into one of my passions right behind surf fishing.

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    Certainly mountain biking was the principal after-work social sports activity when I was working in Santa Cruz a while back, while golf was played by noone. Alas, I could not ride with them as they were far beyond my skill level.

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    About 10 years ago, I rode a trail at Tapatio Springs (golf resort and development) west of San Antonio, TX. As I was riding along a section of trail with a 15 or 20 ft drop off on one side, I looked down to see a perfectly coiffed woman in bermuda shorts and polo shirt tapping in a putt on a perfectly manicured green. She was very fit and spending time outdoors, so there is no criticism implied. I just smiled at the different realities.

    Apparently a major portion of that Tapatio trail system has fallen to housing development at the resort.

    In the past, golf was considered as a critical element of creating bonds among businessmen, so likely there were men out there playing who detested the game, but felt obligated to play. Idle speculation here, but perhaps the advent of computers, email, social media has changed that paradigm or simply a different generation of businessmen.

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    I always said I would take up golf when I hit 80. Now even that sounds too young.
    Yah, an ex boyfriend (60+ at the time and who introduced me to mtn biking) claimed he'd absolutely definitely take up golf when he hit 90.

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    Agreed. I used to play golf not so much because I really liked it. On the contrary I thought it was boring mostly. But it was good for business.

    Now I mountain bike the local single track about 5 days a week and don't golf at all. I don't see myself going back to golf anytime soon. Those guys are snobs anyway, mostly (and for what reason I'll never be able to guess). Never met a snobby mountain biker. They either don't have anything to say or they're very friendly. Not much in between has been my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philip5296 View Post
    Those guys are snobs anyway, mostly (and for what reason I'll never be able to guess). Never met a snobby mountain biker. They either don't have anything to say or they're very friendly. Not much in between has been my experience.
    First of all that is a huge blanket statement to say those guys are snobs. I am amazed. I have met plenty of snobby mountain bikers as well as golfers but to use a blanket statement and refer to all golfers as snobs is irresponsible.

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    LOL! You used a blanket statement to snub my blanket statement? "...plenty of snobby mountain bikers..."

    Who cares bro. This is just a chat forum and you know what they say about opinions; mine included. Go ride your bike. (-:

    Anyway the point I was interested in making is that mountain biking appears to be much less "elitist" than golf and certainly more inclusive of a wider spectrum of society. I enjoy this aspect of the sport and have had many positive interactions with fellow enthusiasts.

    Furthermore, speaking to the string topic; I used to play golf. Now I ride a bicycle. That is all. Thanks.

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    Also, in the advertising world, golf used to be a main "go to" image to represent active older adults. I've noticed now that advertising uses active older adults riding bikes, usually some kind of hybrid or cruiser, but at least they are on bikes and turning the cranks. They also usually look like they have been dosed with some kind of happy pill (Valium and speed maybe?) for the photo shoot, but that's a whole different story.

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    Oh come on guys, mountain biking is still a small niche sport, especially compared to something like golf. No you want to know what is going to replace golf? The big and growing sport of Curling! There are curling clubs cropping up and Monday morning around the water cooler at work its clear everyone is bragging about their stone placement in the last game they played that weekend.

    Sure you have to join a club like in golf but its not that expensive, there is no real equipment cost as the stones belong to the club. The land impact is minimal since its played inside. And you want to get some exercise? Try sweeping harder!

    Yep, definitely Curling is going to be the nail in Golf's coffin! Mountain biking is fun and all, but its really not all that mainstream. Tell the average person you mountain bike and they will ask if you have been out to rail trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbyWilliams View Post
    Oh come on guys, mountain biking is still a small niche sport, especially compared to something like golf. No you want to know what is going to replace golf? The big and growing sport of Curling! There are curling clubs cropping up and Monday morning around the water cooler at work its clear everyone is bragging about their stone placement in the last game they played that weekend.

    Sure you have to join a club like in golf but its not that expensive, there is no real equipment cost as the stones belong to the club. The land impact is minimal since its played inside. And you want to get some exercise? Try sweeping harder!

    Yep, definitely Curling is going to be the nail in Golf's coffin! Mountain biking is fun and all, but its really not all that mainstream. Tell the average person you mountain bike and they will ask if you have been out to rail trail.

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    Golf's okay, but mountain biking is better, at least for me. I am kind of retired from golf. It was fun for a while, but it got frustrating in that as much as I played, my expectations, which I guess were too high, always exceeded my abilities.

    As for attitudes, I probably saw more on the course than the trails. Maybe this was fueled by alcohol? Too many times while golfing I remember having some obnoxious group breathing down our necks and getting huffy on the links because we were playing too slow, even though there was usually a group in front of us five putting and lining up all of their putts, even 1-foot gimmes. To create distance from these clowns we would usually wave them through, then laugh as they crumbled at the tee box with an assortment of slices out of bounds and 100 yard dribblers barely getting by the ladies tee. There are a lot of really bad golfers out there.

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    Maybe if I had started golfing at 9yo so that I would have a well honed and consistent swing I would have enjoyed it far more than I did when I tried to learn in my 30's. I found it to be extraordinarily frustrating to be any "good" at golf.

    I lived for 4 years on a 27 hole course that I never played, while a very nice set of Calloway clubs gathered dust.
    I finally sold the clubs and used the money to help fund my first mountain bike.
    Haven't looked back since...
    14 Canfield Brothers - Jedi
    09 Canfield Brothers - The One
    08 Cannondale Scalpel - SoBe Team Carbon frame

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