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#110 ·
Are we not fighting them because of their deplorable way of life?
No Saudi Arabia is not at war with anyone in fact they are an ally of the US(I assume you are from the US)
and really "deplorable way of life " come on.
 
#120 ·


Someone said it was an overly excessive beating. I counter that with the fact that the article said there was a fight. That damage could have easily been sustained in a bare knuckles brawl without being overly excessive.
Furthermore, the general line between self defense and assault is protecting yourself to the point that the attacker is no longer posing a threat. If that means you yell at him and he falls to the ground in the fetal position, then you stop there. But if you take a baseball bat to his head and he is still swinging, then you hit him again. If the bike owner did not carry it any further then getting the thief to stop fighting, then there was absolutely nothing excessive about that beating. Not that an extra punch to that swollen purple left eye would have been uncalled for...
 
#125 ·
Someone said it was an overly excessive beating. I counter that with the fact that the article said there was a fight. That damage could have easily been sustained in a bare knuckles brawl without being overly excessive.
A fight could be one sided.

The thief could have just been trying to get away and begging for mercy and of course people are still going to say their was a fight.

Still, if he would have left his hands off the bike, he would not have been beaten.

Furthermore, the general line between self defense and assault is protecting yourself to the point that the attacker is no longer posing a threat. If that means you yell at him and he falls to the ground in the fetal position, then you stop there. But if you take a baseball bat to his head and he is still swinging, then you hit him again. If the bike owner did not carry it any further then getting the thief to stop fighting, then there was absolutely nothing excessive about that beating. Not that an extra punch to that swollen purple left eye would have been uncalled for...
Wrong

Their is a degree of reasonable force.
You just can't go swinging weapons around all willy nilly.
With your logic, you could keep shooting somebody as long as they are not on the ground in the fetal position.
Even if somebody is coming at you, hitting them baseball bat can be considered excessive force.
 
#122 ·
all i said was next time to make a point to break the thumbs.. don't know how that got turned into cutting off the hands? that would be outrageous! makes it pretty hard to get a good firm grab of the handle bar with broken thumbs :D
 
#127 ·
SV11 is on crack. NEVER is it the fault of an owner when his/her property is stolen. As a former victim of bike theft (my thief had big-ass bolt cutters,) I think the beating was well-justified.

I would have no problem kicking the shi*t out of a guy who steals my bike. Even if he doesn't really fight back. Just hope nobody's watching....

In other news, I'm an idiot and can't leave rep properly.
 
#130 · (Edited)
Yeah it farkn is. If i leave my bike unlocked in a busy environment and it gets stolen, who's fault is it? It's my fault for being an ass and not securing the bike. It's up to the owner if he wants to prevent theft, there are insinuating circumstances at times, but generally the onus is on the owner. You really don't understand what a thief's job is.
If i do see a perp trying to cut the cable lock, I'd do everything in my power to detain the perp and notify the authorities. The reason being I want it on record. Beating the perp is way too easy (for me anyway, trained in KM), why let the thief off with a beating, to me its not enough.
When you get a parking ticket, who do you blame, the ticketing officer or yourself? Wake the fark up
 
#132 ·
If i leave my bike unlocked in a busy environment and it gets stolen, who's fault is it?
Your parking lot ticket isn't a good analogy. It's more like saying the woman that dresses provocatively is at fault for being raped (obviously extreme example, I know). It's not the fault of the owner if something gets stolen, it is the fault of the thief that stole it. The owner won't get charged with bike theft, the person at fault for the theft will.
Whether or not the owner could have made it more difficult is a different story, but stupidity for not securing the bike properly doesn't make it their fault. Besides, if the right thief wants something bad enough they will find a way to take it.
 
#133 ·
Well, the thief is a scumbag. But, the reality is, and it's a sad reality thats its to be expected in todays society, 50 yrs ago you would have no problems doing that (leaving the bike unsecured) but not in todays climate. You guys are looking for pittyful excuses.
Why you guys always bring rape into the equation baffles me, we are talking about theft, not rape, you cannot compare the two.
 
#134 ·
with that logic every body who brings a bike to a DH/XC/SD/4X.. ect race event should lock their bikes up when not in use. damn that would be a ***** having to carry a lock during a race!
 
#146 ·
<---- Shoots people for a living.

And, I wouldn't beat the guy. I'd use the minimum amount force necessary to stop him. Restrain him until the authorities got there, then let them handle it.

I have to imagine that dude's life is pretty bad already, if he's resorting to stealing bikes. Me beating the tar out of him isn't going to help rehabilitate him any faster.

Cheers,

Andy
 
#147 ·
<---- Shoots people for a living.

And, I wouldn't beat the guy. I'd use the minimum amount force necessary to stop him. Restrain him until the authorities got there, then let them handle it.

I have to imagine that dude's life is pretty bad already, if he's resorting to stealing bikes. Me beating the tar out of him isn't going to help rehabilitate him any faster.

Cheers,

Andy
LOL, Le Duke ''shoots people for a living'' ''And , i wouldnt beat the guy''
Well shut the thread then !!!!!! the bloke that shoots people for a living has spoken..:skep:

Le Duke, whats your quota for the week, how many people do you shoot a week? and is there bonuses involved ?
How many people have you shot Andy, and what do you do for a job that involves ''shooting people for a living'' im only asking because you wernt shy in telling us ..
What are you a hitman or something mate?:thumbsup:
 
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#165 ·
Yes where has SV11 gone, he might be at Lance's place polishing his trophies or its more likely he is out looking for somebodies bike that is not secured so he can take it home and feel no guilt ...
SV11 where are you Tiger ?;)
 
#174 ·
All these bleeding hearts saying we need to rehabilitate this scum bag and not beat him.

It's not anyone's responsibility but that guys to want to "fix" himself. I surely won't be worried about his mental, emotional or physical well being if I caught him trying to steal my bike. This is laughable at best.

Second I would hope the police pressed charges on the bike owner if he had beat the guy to a pulp after he submitted. Here's to hoping he fought back AND then got beaten to pulp. Scum like this are stupid, ignorant people. The only things they sometimes understand (and only temporary) is violence. Agree or not its the truth.

He got what he deserved.
 
#178 ·
They either got real lucky with the cops or they first notified the cops they were doing it. There was 1 across the street in the first attempt, and it looked like the car was empty in the last one.

It's sad that so many people saw this happening and didn't say anything. People don't say anything anymore, or call anyone out. Everyone keeps to themselves lest they get caught up in someone elses business.

And why didn't he use a battery operated grinder? You aren't gonna find a plug in next to every bike you plan to steal.
 
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