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    Quote Originally Posted by fotu View Post
    ********t, poverty is the major factor in crime the world over.

    So I guess you have no link or statistics to back up this nonsense?
    give me some time to do some research.

    for now, here's this: California's longest-serving death row inmate spared execution | Reuters

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    Quote Originally Posted by shekky View Post
    give me some time to do some research.

    for now, here's this: California's longest-serving death row inmate spared execution | Reuters
    try this.

    List of United States death row inmates - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    "I would like to see some statistics on death row inmates and drug use or trafficking."

    this is your question, which i am attempting to research.

    your wikipedia link is simply a list of death row inmates and a description of their crime. i think what tone's is trying to point out that lots of these guys who commit ultra violent crimes might have serious drug issues; that being a reflection of increasing (hard) drug use in the united states which in turn drives up crime in some areas.

    i'd like not to see this thread degenerate into an argument about the death penalty in the united states.

    ok, until i am blue in the face...the bottom line is that if you choose to take something that's not yours without the permission of the owner, you've also chosen to pay the penalty of getting caught--which in some cases, might be a savage beating at the hands of the owner.

    whether you feel that's right or wrong is up to you.

    p.s.: i'm having a hell of a time digging up any statistics on the number of death row inmates who have drug problems.

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    Who cares if they have drug problems or are poor; lots of troubled people out there not committing crimes.

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    i might also add that the owner handing out the beat down chooses to face the consequences as well...there are two sides to this coin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Alberto_ View Post
    Tons of future victims in this thread. Guy gets what he deserves and people complain. Unbelievable the pussification of this country.
    This is a problem I have with this thread. I'm not going to go back an re-read the whole thing but I can't recall one person complaining. I have heard people argue that punishment, "beatings" like this don't really do much to deter crime, a valid argument (not that I'm agreeing with it!), and that people really should lock up their bikes, also valid ( and I am agreeing with that) or like myself- the dude did get what he deserved, justice was served (in this instance) and everything turned out great, a perfect Hollywood ending!

    I get it, I even like it, I just don't like the gloating, the rubbernecking, and the cheering. I joked earlier that maybe we should bring back stoning, and though no one has outright agreed with that I have a sneaking suspicion that there are some who might welcome it. There is quite a mob here that are verbally stoning the "bad guy" so it's not a far fetch that a few might pick up a few real rocks if the opportunity arose. I'm thinking of setting up an online torch outlet, the market seems ripe for it.

    Several have also suggested that we should adopt Saudi Arabia's model and chop off hands, etc. etc., but just remember all the other fun things that go along with their role model. Are we not fighting them because of their deplorable way of life? As flawed as our justice system is, and Ill admit that it is seriously flawed, I'll take it over vigilantism any time. If you play by those rules then some day you may find yourself on the wrong end of a rope.

    If this is pussification then I am all in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Alberto_ View Post
    Tons of future victims in this thread. Guy gets what he deserves and people complain. Unbelievable the pussification of this country.
    Since when does human decency = pussification?

    I am sure you lived a perfect life and never did anything wrong


    BTW, I don't think anyone is really feeling sorry for the guy, some of us just have enough human decency to get off and rejoice over the guy getting what appears to be an overly excessive beating.

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    One thing is for sure, that guy will never steal a bike again. Too bad other theives do not get more of this justice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shekky View Post
    "I would like to see some statistics on death row inmates and drug use or trafficking."

    this is your question, which i am attempting to research.

    your wikipedia link is simply a list of death row inmates and a description of their crime. i think what tone's is trying to point out that lots of these guys who commit ultra violent crimes might have serious drug issues; that being a reflection of increasing (hard) drug use in the united states which in turn drives up crime in some areas.

    i'd like not to see this thread degenerate into an argument about the death penalty in the united states.

    ok, until i am blue in the face...the bottom line is that if you choose to take something that's not yours without the permission of the owner, you've also chosen to pay the penalty of getting caught--which in some cases, might be a savage beating at the hands of the owner.

    whether you feel that's right or wrong is up to you.

    p.s.: i'm having a hell of a time digging up any statistics on the number of death row inmates who have drug problems.
    Tone's comment was asinine and stupid as there have been plenty of people executed throughout Western history long before drugs even came around.

    Furthermore, there are plenty of people addicted to all kinds of terrible drugs that don't ****up and kill people.

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    Are we not fighting them because of their deplorable way of life?
    No Saudi Arabia is not at war with anyone in fact they are an ally of the US(I assume you are from the US)
    and really "deplorable way of life " come on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shekky View Post
    i might also add that the owner handing out the beat down chooses to face the consequences as well...there are two sides to this coin.
    What, this guy is a hero?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OwenM View Post
    I hate it when people try to blame the victim, and am all for negatively reinforcing theft to whatever extent you deem desirable in the event you catch the thief. They named that price, and voluntarily took that risk, when they decided to steal your property.
    Yes, you need to lock up your bike. That's the sad reality of the world we live in.
    You shouldn't need to, though.
    Not the whole world. Ever spend time in Japan? I did in the military. Out in town, no one locked their bikes, and no one touched them. But on Base, I had my bike stolen by another serviceman. Go figure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS Hack View Post
    What, this guy is a hero?
    any time anybody chooses to lay hands on somebody else for any reason, you're taking your chances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moofish View Post
    Are we not fighting them because of their deplorable way of life?
    No Saudi Arabia is not at war with anyone in fact they are an ally of the US(I assume you are from the US)
    and really "deplorable way of life " come on.
    Come on, they're freaks that want to live in the year 800 (for real, look it up). We just kiss up to get their oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fotu View Post
    Tone's comment was asinine and stupid as there have been plenty of people executed throughout Western history long before drugs even came around.

    Furthermore, there are plenty of people addicted to all kinds of terrible drugs that don't ****up and kill people.
    Mate in developed countries drugs without a doubt in one form or another is the driving force behind crime.
    I live in a city with over 6 million people in it, who do you think are the people stealing cars, breaking in to premises, getting involved in shootings and homocide, these people arnt doing it to feed their families be cause they are poor, they are doing it because they have an addiction that makes them desperate for money and drugs.
    I never stated all drug users are out there commiting crime, if you bothered to read my prior posts im the only person here that admitted i was a meth head for 20 years of my adult life, and also an addict of a few other choice substances.
    I never committed any capital crimes, i certainly never stole anything either.
    Bet ive been on both sides of the fence, i understand the impact they have on lives, i dont need stats to state the obvious, its a no brainer..

    People who use heavy drugs who dont hold down a job like i did, have no other way to support their habit unless they deal themselves or commit crime, its simple, how else do you get your 1000+ bucks a week to support your habit? you tell me mate?

    man you gotta get real, its basically the biggest economy on the face of the planet, and its pretty obvious you know very little about it the machinations of serious drug users and the effect it has directly and indirectly on the planet especially in developed countries like ours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    Mate in developed countries drugs without a doubt in one form or another is the driving force behind crime.
    I live in a city with over 6 million people in it, who do you think are the people stealing cars, breaking in to premises, getting involved in shootings and homocide, these people arnt doing it to feed their families be cause they are poor, they are doing it because they have an addiction that makes them desperate for money and drugs.
    I never stated all drug users are out there commiting crime, if you bothered to read my prior posts im the only person here that admitted i was a meth head for 20 years of my adult life, and also an addict of a few other choice substances.
    I never committed any capital crimes, i certainly never stole anything either.
    Bet ive been on both sides of the fence, i understand the impact they have on lives, i dont need stats to state the obvious, its a no brainer..

    People who use heavy drugs who dont hold down a job like i did, have no other way to support their habit unless they deal themselves or commit crime, its simple, how else do you get your 1000+ bucks a week to support your habit? you tell me mate?

    man you gotta get real, its basically the biggest economy on the face of the planet, and its pretty obvious you know very little about it the machinations of serious drug users and the effect it has directly and indirectly on the planet especially in developed countries like ours.
    Do you live in Australia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TxMatt View Post
    One thing is for sure, that guy will never steal a bike again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fotu View Post
    Do you live in Australia?
    See under my name there, it says Sydney Australia, next to the word location, that generally means that the person lives in that place.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by moofish View Post
    Are we not fighting them because of their deplorable way of life?
    No Saudi Arabia is not at war with anyone in fact they are an ally of the US(I assume you are from the US)
    and really "deplorable way of life " come on.

    Yeah, that was pretty dumb- ever try and type a post while some kids are watching a show on half the computer screen, and others are bugging you every 30 seconds asking when they can have a turn? Hard to concentrate with screaming rug rats running wild.

    I was only trying (a lame attempt) to illustrate how people tend to cherry pick things that bolster their point of view.

    I know I'm not going to change anyones mind in regard to cheering the beating of a petty thief, and no one is going persuade me to join in the cheering but I guess its human nature to attempt to understand the other half.

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    Someone said it was an overly excessive beating. I counter that with the fact that the article said there was a fight. That damage could have easily been sustained in a bare knuckles brawl without being overly excessive.
    Furthermore, the general line between self defense and assault is protecting yourself to the point that the attacker is no longer posing a threat. If that means you yell at him and he falls to the ground in the fetal position, then you stop there. But if you take a baseball bat to his head and he is still swinging, then you hit him again. If the bike owner did not carry it any further then getting the thief to stop fighting, then there was absolutely nothing excessive about that beating. Not that an extra punch to that swollen purple left eye would have been uncalled for...

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.B. Weld View Post
    Yeah, that was pretty dumb- ever try and type a post while some kids are watching a show on half the computer screen, and others are bugging you every 30 seconds asking when they can have a turn? Hard to concentrate with screaming rug rats running wild.

    I was only trying (a lame attempt) to illustrate how people tend to cherry pick things that bolster their point of view.

    I know I'm not going to change anyones mind in regard to cheering the beating of a petty thief, and no one is going persuade me to join in the cheering but I guess its human nature to attempt to understand the other half.
    Stop wasting your time on MTBR and go play with your kids!

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    all i said was next time to make a point to break the thumbs.. don't know how that got turned into cutting off the hands? that would be outrageous! makes it pretty hard to get a good firm grab of the handle bar with broken thumbs
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    Quote Originally Posted by shwinn8 View Post
    all i said was next time to make a point to break the thumbs.. don't know how that got turned into cutting off the hands? that would be outrageous! makes it pretty hard to get a good firm grab of the handle bar
    LOL , yeah thats the whole point......
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbyWilliams View Post
    Stop wasting your time on MTBR and go play with your kids!
    Best post so far!

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshh View Post
    Someone said it was an overly excessive beating. I counter that with the fact that the article said there was a fight. That damage could have easily been sustained in a bare knuckles brawl without being overly excessive.
    A fight could be one sided.

    The thief could have just been trying to get away and begging for mercy and of course people are still going to say their was a fight.

    Still, if he would have left his hands off the bike, he would not have been beaten.


    Quote Originally Posted by joshh View Post
    Furthermore, the general line between self defense and assault is protecting yourself to the point that the attacker is no longer posing a threat. If that means you yell at him and he falls to the ground in the fetal position, then you stop there. But if you take a baseball bat to his head and he is still swinging, then you hit him again. If the bike owner did not carry it any further then getting the thief to stop fighting, then there was absolutely nothing excessive about that beating. Not that an extra punch to that swollen purple left eye would have been uncalled for...

    Wrong

    Their is a degree of reasonable force.
    You just can't go swinging weapons around all willy nilly.
    With your logic, you could keep shooting somebody as long as they are not on the ground in the fetal position.
    Even if somebody is coming at you, hitting them baseball bat can be considered excessive force.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    See under my name there, it says Sydney Australia, next to the word location, that generally means that the person lives in that place.....
    yeah no shitt I was just asking cause it sounded like you were speaking for both of us, but I live in merica mate. just wondering how you have your finger on the pulse of what's going on in my country.

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    SV11 is on crack. NEVER is it the fault of an owner when his/her property is stolen. As a former victim of bike theft (my thief had big-ass bolt cutters,) I think the beating was well-justified.

    I would have no problem kicking the shi*t out of a guy who steals my bike. Even if he doesn't really fight back. Just hope nobody's watching....

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    Quote Originally Posted by kjlued View Post
    A fight could be one sided.

    The thief could have just been trying to get away and begging for mercy and of course people are still going to say their was a fight.

    Still, if he would have left his hands off the bike, he would not have been beaten.





    Wrong

    Their is a degree of reasonable force.
    You just can't go swinging weapons around all willy nilly.
    With your logic, you could keep shooting somebody as long as they are not on the ground in the fetal position.
    Even if somebody is coming at you, hitting them baseball bat can be considered excessive force.
    If anyone comes at me or my family, they will indeed face "excessive" force - hopefully the next person the perp comes at has a ramp for the scum's new wheelchair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kjlued View Post
    A fight could be one sided.

    The thief could have just been trying to get away and begging for mercy and of course people are still going to say their was a fight.

    Still, if he would have left his hands off the bike, he would not have been beaten.
    A one sided fight is called a beat down. If the bike owner would have beat down the thief, then there would have been an obligation for the police to arrest the owner on suspicion of assault. It goes back to what I'm about to rediscuss below, self defense.



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    Wrong

    Their is a degree of reasonable force.
    You just can't go swinging weapons around all willy nilly.
    With your logic, you could keep shooting somebody as long as they are not on the ground in the fetal position.
    Even if somebody is coming at you, hitting them baseball bat can be considered excessive force.
    You took what I said out of context, or just misinterpreted it. I did not say the person has to be in the fetal position before you stop. I said that you stop once the attacker is no longer posing a threat.
    I also did not say that you can hit someone in the head with a bat. I said if you do, and they are still coming at you, then do it again. That would be part of the "stopping them from posing a threat". But you're right, a bat to the head was a bad example. That can be considered assault with a deadly weapon, if you aren't defending yourself... Shoot him in the face instead.
    With my logic, not your interpretation of it, you unload the clip if he is still coming at you. You don't pull the trigger if he sees the gun and immediately stops or runs away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtmartino View Post
    SV11 is on crack. NEVER is it the fault of an owner when his/her property is stolen. As a former victim of bike theft (my thief had big-ass bolt cutters,) I think the beating was well-justified.

    I would have no problem kicking the shi*t out of a guy who steals my bike. Even if he doesn't really fight back. Just hope nobody's watching....

    In other news, I'm an idiot and can't leave rep properly.
    Yeah it farkn is. If i leave my bike unlocked in a busy environment and it gets stolen, who's fault is it? It's my fault for being an ass and not securing the bike. It's up to the owner if he wants to prevent theft, there are insinuating circumstances at times, but generally the onus is on the owner. You really don't understand what a thief's job is.
    If i do see a perp trying to cut the cable lock, I'd do everything in my power to detain the perp and notify the authorities. The reason being I want it on record. Beating the perp is way too easy (for me anyway, trained in KM), why let the thief off with a beating, to me its not enough.
    When you get a parking ticket, who do you blame, the ticketing officer or yourself? Wake the fark up
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    you won't have to worry SV11, i'm guessing you never actually leave the safety of the confines of your own house with all the crazy people stealing things
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    If i leave my bike unlocked in a busy environment and it gets stolen, who's fault is it?
    Your parking lot ticket isn't a good analogy. It's more like saying the woman that dresses provocatively is at fault for being raped (obviously extreme example, I know). It's not the fault of the owner if something gets stolen, it is the fault of the thief that stole it. The owner won't get charged with bike theft, the person at fault for the theft will.
    Whether or not the owner could have made it more difficult is a different story, but stupidity for not securing the bike properly doesn't make it their fault. Besides, if the right thief wants something bad enough they will find a way to take it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshh View Post
    Your parking lot ticket isn't a good analogy. It's more like saying the woman that dresses provocatively is at fault for being raped (obviously extreme example, I know). It's not the fault of the owner if something gets stolen, it is the fault of the thief that stole it. The owner won't get charged with bike theft, the person at fault for the theft will.
    Whether or not the owner could have made it more difficult is a different story, but stupidity for not securing the bike properly doesn't make it their fault. Besides, if the right thief wants something bad enough they will find a way to take it.
    Well, the thief is a scumbag. But, the reality is, and it's a sad reality thats its to be expected in todays society, 50 yrs ago you would have no problems doing that (leaving the bike unsecured) but not in todays climate. You guys are looking for pittyful excuses.
    Why you guys always bring rape into the equation baffles me, we are talking about theft, not rape, you cannot compare the two.

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    with that logic every body who brings a bike to a DH/XC/SD/4X.. ect race event should lock their bikes up when not in use. damn that would be a ***** having to carry a lock during a race!
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    Quote Originally Posted by shwinn8 View Post
    with that logic every body who brings a bike to a DH/XC/SD/4X.. ect race event should lock their bikes up when not in use. damn that would be a ***** having to carry a lock during a race!
    You are a right royal idiot. I just realised what type of crowd I'm conversing with in this thread, I'm pulling myself out of this thread, have a nice day chaps.

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    i'm not a right loyal idiot, i'm just a realist who sometimes calls it as it is.

    sorry that the big bad words on the computer screen beat you
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    Quote Originally Posted by fotu View Post
    yeah no shitt I was just asking cause it sounded like you were speaking for both of us, but I live in merica mate. just wondering how you have your finger on the pulse of what's going on in my country.
    No, but im as educated as i need to be to understand how civilised countries operate, and understand the nature of human beings, and how serious drugs effect society and people,, and your constant personal attacks and name calling of everybody in this thread that doesnt see it your way has unfortunatly for you shown your hand and true colours, cheers

    Edited, Apologies Fotu, the name calling part was directed at SV11, you didnt do that at all, sorry mate.....retracted.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by SV11 View Post
    You are a right royal idiot. I just realised what type of crowd I'm conversing with in this thread, I'm pulling myself out of this thread, have a nice day chaps.
    BWAHAHAHA, what a great loss to this thread, i'll see if i can pull him back in, here SV11, here boy.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    No, but im as educated as i need to be to understand how civilised countries operate, and understand the nature of human beings, and how serious drugs effect society and people,, and your constant personal attacks and name calling of everybody in this thread that doesnt see it your way has unfortunatly for you shown your hand and true colours, cheers
    Personal attacks and name calling? I didn't do any of that. Are you high right now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fotu View Post
    Personal attacks and name calling? I didn't do any of that. Are you high right now?
    Sorry mate, my apologies, i mistook you for SV11, my mistake, sorry mate......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    Edited, Apologies Fotu, the name calling part was directed at SV11, you didnt do that at all, sorry mate.....retracted.....
    Just to clear it up, I only called shwinn8 a right royal idiot, reason being he's arguing just for the sake of arguing and not making any ground. I call it as is and I never beat around the bush.
    As for the personal attacks, I attack the post, not the poster except in schwinn8's case. It's all there in black and white if you don't believe me.
    Now I'm done.
    Last edited by SV11; 11-29-2012 at 12:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS Hack View Post
    If anyone comes at me or my family, they will indeed face "excessive" force - hopefully the next person the perp comes at has a ramp for the scum's new wheelchair.
    Well, there is a difference between somebody coming at you and your family vs somebody chasing somebody down.

    Example, if a perp comes in your house you can shoot him but as he is coming in, but if you wait to he is leaving you will be charged with a crime.

    If somebody comes yelling at your wife and kids, and you just start beating them with a bat, you will be charged with a crime. Now if that same guy is waiving a bat in the air and you have reason to believe he will hit them, the start slugging.

    Quote Originally Posted by joshh View Post
    A one sided fight is called a beat down. If the bike owner would have beat down the thief, then there would have been an obligation for the police to arrest the owner on suspicion of assault. It goes back to what I'm about to rediscuss below, self defense.
    Schematics

    But lets take the word at face value. It must have been a real fight because the media would never lie or spin something.

    Quote Originally Posted by joshh View Post
    You took what I said out of context, or just misinterpreted it. I did not say the person has to be in the fetal position before you stop. I said that you stop once the attacker is no longer posing a threat.
    I also did not say that you can hit someone in the head with a bat. I said if you do, and they are still coming at you, then do it again. That would be part of the "stopping them from posing a threat". But you're right, a bat to the head was a bad example. That can be considered assault with a deadly weapon, if you aren't defending yourself... Shoot him in the face instead.
    With my logic, not your interpretation of it, you unload the clip if he is still coming at you. You don't pull the trigger if he sees the gun and immediately stops or runs away.
    I didn't take it out of context, you didn't explain yourself well and left it too open.

    Quote Originally Posted by SV11 View Post
    Yeah it farkn is. If i leave my bike unlocked in a busy environment and it gets stolen, who's fault is it? It's my fault for being an ass and not securing the bike. It's up to the owner if he wants to prevent theft, there are insinuating circumstances at times, but generally the onus is on the owner. You really don't understand what a thief's job is.
    If i do see a perp trying to cut the cable lock, I'd do everything in my power to detain the perp and notify the authorities. The reason being I want it on record. Beating the perp is way too easy (for me anyway, trained in KM), why let the thief off with a beating, to me its not enough.
    When you get a parking ticket, who do you blame, the ticketing officer or yourself? Wake the fark up
    Again you mix up fault with responsibility.

    It was the owners responsibility to secure the bike.
    It was thief's fault it was stolen.

    The thief was the ass, the owner was an idiot.

    BTW, did it ever occur to you that obviously the thief didn't get very far. Considering it only takes a few seconds to be gone, the bike may have never left his sight.


    Quote Originally Posted by SV11 View Post
    You are a right royal idiot. I just realised what type of crowd I'm conversing with in this thread, I'm pulling myself out of this thread, have a nice day chaps.
    I see, since everyone disagrees with you, everyone else is an idiot?

    Quote Originally Posted by SV11 View Post
    Just to clear it up, I only called shwinn8 a right royal idiot, reason being he's arguing just for the sake of arguing and not making any ground. I call it as is and I never beat around the bush.
    As for the personal attacks, I attack the post, not the poster except in schwinn8's case. It's all there in black and white if you don't believe me.
    Now I'm done.
    I don't believe you.

    You will be back.

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    <---- Shoots people for a living.

    And, I wouldn't beat the guy. I'd use the minimum amount force necessary to stop him. Restrain him until the authorities got there, then let them handle it.

    I have to imagine that dude's life is pretty bad already, if he's resorting to stealing bikes. Me beating the tar out of him isn't going to help rehabilitate him any faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Duke View Post
    <---- Shoots people for a living.

    And, I wouldn't beat the guy. I'd use the minimum amount force necessary to stop him. Restrain him until the authorities got there, then let them handle it.

    I have to imagine that dude's life is pretty bad already, if he's resorting to stealing bikes. Me beating the tar out of him isn't going to help rehabilitate him any faster.

    Cheers,

    Andy
    LOL, Le Duke ''shoots people for a living'' ''And , i wouldnt beat the guy''
    Well shut the thread then !!!!!! the bloke that shoots people for a living has spoken..

    Le Duke, whats your quota for the week, how many people do you shoot a week? and is there bonuses involved ?
    How many people have you shot Andy, and what do you do for a job that involves ''shooting people for a living'' im only asking because you wernt shy in telling us ..
    What are you a hitman or something mate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SV11 View Post
    Yeah it farkn is. If i leave my bike unlocked in a busy environment and it gets stolen, who's fault is it? It's my fault for being an ass and not securing the bike. It's up to the owner if he wants to prevent theft, there are insinuating circumstances at times, but generally the onus is on the owner. You really don't understand what a thief's job is.
    If i do see a perp trying to cut the cable lock, I'd do everything in my power to detain the perp and notify the authorities. The reason being I want it on record. Beating the perp is way too easy (for me anyway, trained in KM), why let the thief off with a beating, to me its not enough.
    When you get a parking ticket, who do you blame, the ticketing officer or yourself? Wake the fark up
    You left me negative rep, and misspelled "imbocile." Oh, the irony!

    The word "steal" inherently means someone taking something that doesn't belong to them. Period. The person doing the taking is guilty, not the owner of the item.

    Your parking ticket analogy shows how much of an "imbocile" you are, with clearly little cognitive abilities or comprehension of fundamental laws of possession. Good job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    LOL, Le Duke ''shoots people for a living'' ''And , i wouldnt beat the guy''
    Well shut the thread then !!!!!! the bloke that shoots people for a living has spoken..

    Le Duke, whats your quota for the week, how many people do you shoot a week? and is there bonuses involved ?
    How many people have you shot Andy, and what do you do for a job that involves ''shooting people for a living'' im only asking because you wernt shy in telling us ..
    What are you a hitman or something mate?
    Tone's,

    Le Duke's avatar "Ranger", suggests that he is a US Army Ranger. His profile says he is stationed in Ft Hood Oregon. He's just saying that he is a soldier. "Trained killer" is accurate, in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavyRay View Post
    Tone's,

    Le Duke's avatar "Ranger", suggests that he is a US Army Ranger. His profile says he is stationed in Ft Hood Oregon. He's just saying that he is a soldier. "Trained killer" is accurate, in my opinion.
    LOL, cheers Dave, i gathered that, but he said he ''shoots people for a living'' i wanted to know how many people he shoots a week and how many he has shot...
    Dont ever let the truth get in the way of a funny story....

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