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    Best place to live and mountain bike????

    I was wondering if some of you could fill me in on where it's best to live if you love mountain biking. I'm in the process of making some changes and am planning a move, but haven't decided where to. I'm confident finding work won't be a problem. I just need to be near a city large enough for a hospital or two (I work in healthcare).

    I would like to live somewhere that has access to local trails, and has a large friendly cycling community. I also enjoy racing and hope to find somewhere that has a competitive local series. I also love other outdoor activities such as camping, hiking, skiing, and would like to learn to kayak.

    If you think you have the best mountain biking trails and cycling community tell me why and help make my decision easier.

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    I would say Denver or the surrounding area would be a good bet.

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    Vancouver BC!

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    Western North Carolina, cuz it's good

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    Havent ridden there yet, but Portland Oregon seems to have everything you want in close proximity...

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    According to Mountain Bike Action Magazine, the best place is Park City, Utah. Apparently everytime a company starts a housing development they have to build/add to mountain biking trails and they strictly enforce this law.
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    Southern Utah has great riding but excpect a nice pay cut. Utah health care does not pay like other places. But the riding is year round and like no where else in the country.

    Phoenix also has a great riding group and health care is booming there. riding available 10 months a year- 12 if you hate yourself. All the outdoors you want within a few hours drive in any direction- mounatins, lakes, desert, Mexico, Vegas.
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    Fruita....wish I could move out there. AKA single track heaven

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    For me is Cusco, in Peru. Good weather, the air is pure, and lots of possibilities to live for MTB!

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    Not Tampa, FL! High prices, low wages, and flat, boring trails. Sure, it's technical, but I miss real climbs and swooping singletrack.

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    When you say "live" and "bike" I think of a few variables such as the obvious.... trails, trail access, biking community. And the lesser though of, schools, night life, weather, other activities, etc. The Western Slope of Colorado (Grand Junction area), SW corner (Durango), Denver. Salt Lake City/Provo, Utah area, Central California (cost of living issues there). Central to Western North Carolina. I would say narrow it down to a few, find yourself a couple locals to speak to and/or take a trip (best) then decided. I was born and raised in Denver, CO, so feel free to contact me with any questions about Colorado.

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    I live in Golden, CO (Denver), we have riding all over.... however...

    I would look into Durango (Close to Moab, Gallup, Arizona when winter hits) and you have the high country to play in during the summer.

    Utah is fantastic, Can't beat it.

    Can you be nomadic? You know, be in 1 place for a year and then move on? That would be ideal.

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    Listen! Southern Cali!

    Most people wouldn't think of Mt Biking and Los Angeles in the same sentence, but we have great trails here that stretch from the mountains all the way to the beach. There are lots of bike shops from corporate giants (Performance Bike) to high-end boutique stores (Universal Cycles in Universal City) and everything in-between.

    There are plenty of clubs to ride with, but I find the best rides are with a few buddies and new people we meet on the trails. Best of all, I can ride from my house to the trail head if I want to (about 7 miles on the street) and then stay off road for an epic ride or just do a two hour loop.

    Look for Caballero trailhead in Encino. Take the short but technical single-track to dirt Mulholland. From there you can ride easy fire roads or super technical single-track ALL DAY LONG.

    Ride to the beach, the Hollywood Sign, Malibu, or to the former site of O.J. Simpson’s house in Brentwood via Sullivan Canyon trail (awesome). The possibilities are unlimited. The terrain is diverse too. There is hard-pack, sand, rock gardens, red clay, water crossings and even footbridges…all on the same ride. Add in the proximity to nightlife, world-class restaurants and great homes and you’ll find it’s hard to beat.

    I'll admit that it’s not as scenic as Peru, but it sure is more convenient!

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    I'd third the vote for Fruita/Grand Junction, especially if you're in healthcare. Hubby has wanted to move there for almost a year. The biggest job industries right now are oil drilling and nursing.

    I live in So Cal and wouldn't advocate it as a place to move. Lots of trail access issues going on currently. Not to mention incredible over population, traffic, and smog. Also, it's now summer, so unless you like riding in 100* + from July until September, think somewhere else (this would also exclude the Phoenix area, and Las Vegas). If you can afford living in OC there are a lot of trails, but also a lot of people. It hasn't happened yet, but everyone has been saying for a month or so that the national forests will most likely close to all human traffic at some point due to fire risk. We'll see what happens ,but most of the trails I ride are in NF land, so that would suck.

    If you can handle Vancouver BC traffic, and don't mind the immigration stuff, go for it That's the only place I've visited in the past 5~ years that I'd consider moving to.

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    Not that we really want anymore moving here! Might be room for a couple more bikers though.

    Western Washington. You have some of the top healthcare facilitys in the country.
    For biking you have mountians in fact two mountian ranges dry forest and rain forest and in eastern part of state you have dry and even some deseret like conditions. Of course you have a lot of camping sking and all of that.
    If you like to fish there is some great salmon and steelhead trout fishing.
    If you want to get into kayaking why not try doing it in the San Juans with killer Whales?

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    this is a hard question. I live in so-cal near the beaches and I love it here. Summer it gets as hot as high 70's low 80's. 90's is a heat wave. Winter it gets in the 60's high 50's.. So you can ride all year long no problem. thier are lots of trails out here and technical and fun but its not going to be as nice as some of the other places listed. So i guess you have to tell us what you are looking for? Super nice trails everywhere? Weather that you can ride any time you want? A city where you can do other stuff when your not working? Cost of living is cheap? Not too crowded? Obviously I am not living here just becuase I like mountain biking but i don't find it hard to mountain bike here at all. I have been to some of the other places and they have really nice trails and its fun but i go to the city and think that i couldn't live thier. But that is my life style and everyone's life style is different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wayodh
    For me is Cusco, in Peru. Good weather, the air is pure, and lots of possibilities to live for MTB!
    No way! I'd never bike where donkeys have the right of way.
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    I went online and searched and now I am changing my opinion from earlier and I want to say Fruita Colo. is the place to be. The place sounds amazing and you can you ride the Fruita trails straight to Moab (its truly an epic though). I think I want to move there after reading so many articles about it. Need a roommate??
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    Flagstaff
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    Can't go wrong.

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    im biased but...

    N Utah. You can ride year round in both desert and mountain terrain. In Feb. you can ride Gooseberry and in July you can ride at 10,000 ft along lakes and streams.

    A four hour drive gets you to such famous places as Fruita, Moab, Zion, Jackson, and Sun Valley. Plus, there is unending terrain in between. Park City and the surrounding areas have some amazing singletrack and, its true, new housing developments are required to build new, mountain bike specific singletrack.

    Also, SLC has a lot of hospitals and a very large medical research facility at the University of Utah.

    And, some of the best skiing anywhere!

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    South Lake Tahoe. We have a hospital.

    Only problem is that snow can get in the way of winter riding, but that's okay, head down the hill to Sac or the Bay Area...or just start boarding/skiing.

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    Tahoe or Reno, hands down(although Fruita or Denver don't sound too bad either)

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    utah

    another vote for utah, i live in salt lake and in the winter i get sick of riding the low elevation trails i just take a weekend trip down to st george to ride in 60 degree weather on awesome red rock trails, in the summer nothing beats park city single track, oh and the fact that you have 5 major canyons to choose from all of which are within 30 minutes to salt lake all of which have major mt bike trails on them... oh and did i mention park city literally has 100's of miles of pristine shaded single track!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by *KL*
    I was wondering if some of you could fill me in on where it's best to live if you love mountain biking. I'm in the process of making some changes and am planning a move, but haven't decided where to. I'm confident finding work won't be a problem. I just need to be near a city large enough for a hospital or two (I work in healthcare).

    I would like to live somewhere that has access to local trails, and has a large friendly cycling community. I also enjoy racing and hope to find somewhere that has a competitive local series. I also love other outdoor activities such as camping, hiking, skiing, and would like to learn to kayak.

    If you think you have the best mountain biking trails and cycling community tell me why and help make my decision easier.
    I moved to North Bend Washington and live on the middle fork of the Snoqualmie river. You get class II-IV kayaking depending on where you launch. Skiing is 15 minutes away but it's not resort-class skiing. Mountain biking is very nice with many rides leaving from my house and the hiking is everything from a day-hike to Everest training.

    Oh yeah: My property taxes went from $5,000/year to $14,000/year in just three years so you may soon be able to buy my house. Apparently I'm not the only one who wants to live here.

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    Bend, OR: they have an epic trail system that can be ridden from town. They also have some really good beer. Tons of outdoors stuff like camping, rivers, fishing, hiking.

    The people are pretty laid back and easy going. Some really good bike shops too.

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    proably biased cause i just moved here from south florida. But northern georgia is pretty sweet. Lots of good trails close by and even more within a nice 2 hour drive. Great weather year round.

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    tahoe good we have hospitals and LOTS of trails

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    Not Boise, 2 Hospitals, 1 private hospital planned, lots of Doctors, not so many nurses, tons of sweet single track, lots of climbing and loads of screaming descents. Of course with all the Californians, Washingtonians, and refugees from the east coast we have increasing crime rates, bad air in the summer as well as the usual winter inversions. Soaring house prices and taxes that follow those. Traffic woes and general growing pains. I wouldn't trade it for the world, well maybe if I won the lottery and was able to quit work and dedicate the rest of my life to riding all the primo single track on the planet I would move. Yeah, Boise sucks a big one you don't want to come out here.
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    I have to say it.

    Southern California.

    Denver and Fruita and Flagstaff etc might be incredible...but their virtue diminishes since they can't be ridden all year.

    90% of our trails in SoCal can be ridden ALL year barring a 2-3 day rain delay.

    Road riding up the wazoo.
    Tons and tons of trails.

    We lack the ridiculous amount of singletrack of other places...but if you can only ride that singletrack a few months out of the year...

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    i hope to be selling my place in socal soon. great 1100 sq foot condo for 260K. hope you like the spanish speaking, welfare collecting, non-citizens that have completely taken over because our government is too weak to close the border.

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    I think you meant to type Peoria. Or Kansas City.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mechmann_mtb
    i hope to be selling my place in socal soon. great 1100 sq foot condo for 260K. hope you like the spanish speaking, welfare collecting, non-citizens that have completely taken over because our government is too weak to close the border.
    Don't let the door slap you on your way out- we'll be only too happy to see your type gone. I hear there's still a few right-wing redoubts in Idaho you might be interested in...

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    our trails suk

    Thats the reason nobody has listed Albuq plus its so hard too spell!

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    Quote Originally Posted by verve825
    Don't let the door slap you on your way out- we'll be only too happy to see your type gone. I hear there's still a few right-wing redoubts in Idaho you might be interested in...

    Actually they got closed down and the people moved to Alabama or Pennsylvania or maybe it was so cal
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    Southwestern New Mexico. (Las Cruces, Alamogordo, Cloudcroft, Ruidoso, Silver City)

    1) Laid back life style.
    2) Decent weather year round.
    3) Variety of terrain. (Desert sand and scrub, dense forests, slick rocks, painful climbing and deadly descents.)
    4) Miles and miles of trails.

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    Not even from there but Lake Tahoe seems AWESOME to me....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mechmann_mtb
    i hope to be selling my place in socal soon. great 1100 sq foot condo for 260K. hope you like the spanish speaking, welfare collecting, non-citizens that have completely taken over because our government is too weak to close the border.
    What the....? Ironically, one of the reasons why I love living in California is its diversity (racial diversity). I meet people from all walks of life, and from all over the world. Maybe you need to travel? There are people living outside the U.S.....

    Anyway, I'll cast in my vote for NorCal....great weather, different terrains, rain, sun, anything that suits your mood. Tons, and tons of trails..

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    Second this one

    Quote Originally Posted by palerider
    Thats the reason nobody has listed Albuq plus its so hard too spell!
    I'd say

    • Fruita
    • Denver
    • Tahoe
    • Reno
    • Bend
    • Flagstaff


    mainly as New Mexico, with Albuquerque, Santa Fe, Taos and some other irrelevant cities, all suck.

    They suck in the winter:




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    They suck in the summer:




    They definitely suck in the fall:




    They suck going up:




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    It even sucks at night:


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    Quote Originally Posted by palerider
    Thats the reason nobody has listed Albuq plus its so hard too spell!
    That's certainly not the Albuquerque I remember. Otero, Elena Gallegos foothills, Sandia Peak. Just a short drive to Windsor, etc.

    I learned to spell it "ABQ" when I was about 4. Just remember to add the zip code on your letters so the USPS doesn't send it back for improper international postage.

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    Hooksett NH has been treating me really good as of late. Bear Brook State Park is 15 minutes away, the FOMBA singletrack (amazing singletrack by the way) is 10 minutes away (used to ride there when I was too young to drive, that's how close), Highland Mountain Bike Park is 25 minutes away, the Exeter Pipeline is 30 minutes away, Vietnam (awesome techy freeride) is about an hour away, and there are countless other trail systems nearby. Boston is 50 minutes away, so there's your big city, and my town is a decent little town. No sales or income tax in NH either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verve825
    Don't let the door slap you on your way out- we'll be only too happy to see your type gone. I hear there's still a few right-wing redoubts in Idaho you might be interested in...

    Welfare collector, eh? So what bike did you buy off our taxes? Prolly a $4k or above bike or something I bet, huh? Can't work - yet you can sure do a good job taking our money, can't yah?

    Go F yourself loser.
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    Park City is the shiznit but I like my beer full strength and thats not gonna happen in Utah.

    Grew up in Grand Junction and loved it. Can be a bit warm in the summer time but it makes you stronger. Don't think I need to say anything about the riding. The community is a too damn conservative too. Once we get a lot of young, active progressive people living there, it will be heaven for me.

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    I'll throw a vote in for my little town of Auburn, CA. 30 miles above Sacramento and sits at about 1,500 ft, so you can ride year round. 50 + miles of great trails from downtown(5 miles away), and many trails you can access from neighborhoods. A ton of lakes and 1 hour to Tahoe, 45 minutes to Northstar, and 80 miles to Downieville.

    The town is very big into the outdoors and endurance racing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rider400
    Bend, OR: they have an epic trail system that can be ridden from town. They also have some really good beer. Tons of outdoors stuff like camping, rivers, fishing, hiking.

    The people are pretty laid back and easy going. Some really good bike shops too.
    Bend seems great but lacks challenging, technical singletrack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bullit71
    Welfare collector, eh? So what bike did you buy off our taxes? Prolly a $4k or above bike or something I bet, huh? Can't work - yet you can sure do a good job taking our money, can't yah?

    Go F yourself loser.
    I hope you are being sarcastic. Welfare pays well under $1,000 a month, even with kids. You'd have to skip buying anything about half a year to afford a 4,000 bike. While you might get subsidized housing and food stamps on top of other things, you can't spend that stuff, the money is never in your hands.

    Most illegals are working a heck of a lot harder than most of us.
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    Health care vocation + MTB = Southern Oregon. Check out Medford or south of there. Lotsa retirees from Cali and elsewhere. . .

    Sorry to all the you locals, but the rest of those places pretty much suck, esp Utah! IMHO

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    ideal:

    vancouver for june-sept
    southern cal,peru,new zeland from oct-may!

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    I posted my opinion on this before. For the western USA, I vote Flagstaff. (Told my wife we are moving there in the next decade, she doesn't believe me...YET!).

    Within half-day reach or less

    -Flag,
    -Sedona
    -Durango
    -Moab
    -St George
    -Las Vegas
    -Albuquerque
    -Santa Fe
    -Phoenix
    -Tucson

    --stuff I forgot.

    Cost of living is not too bad if you can find a job. Summers are milder than other parts of AZ. All the great national parks are close. Lake Powell is close (I love the party boat thing).

    Not great ski access though.

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    Montana. Its the greatest place in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lidarman
    I posted my opinion on this before. For the western USA, I vote Flagstaff. (Told my wife we are moving there in the next decade, she doesn't believe me...YET!).

    Within half-day reach or less

    -Flag,
    -Sedona
    -Durango
    -Moab
    -St George
    -Las Vegas
    -Albuquerque
    -Santa Fe
    -Phoenix
    -Tucson

    --stuff I forgot.

    Cost of living is not too bad if you can find a job. Summers are milder than other parts of AZ. All the great national parks are close. Lake Powell is close (I love the party boat thing).

    Not great ski access though.

    You forgot Prescott, I had loads of fun at Thumb Butte and Granite basin. Since I'm a SoCal transplant in FL the only thing there that buged me was the elevation, and that was taken care of by the time I finished my first ride.
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    I live in Southern California. there are some trails super fun trails, single track lots of long firerode rides, the coast , BUT... After visiting Utah ( Brianhead, Moab, La sal area) and Co ( Grand junction, durango, fruita), I've become Obsessed with with the four corner region. I stare at pics, read blogs of everyone from the area and plan my 3 weeks of vacation a year around this area. If I could get the Mrs. to leave sunny so cal . I would be outta here. We have agreed on Arizona and New Mexico but I love Utah.
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    You mean you only mountain bike????? How boring.

    -kidding-

    At least you have it easy. I want a house that has access to some where i can windsurf and if possible not too far away from the sea with good waves for sufing, and i'd like some ski resorts nearby AND some mountain bike areas. TRY THAT!!
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    I am highly biased but i love Southern New Mexico, its kinda nasty out today, but its still ridable. You can ride in the mountains all but a few days a year and on those days there are tons of dessert trails. My sister is a nurse in Las Cruses and makes bank... Just my 2 cents.
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    This is totally subjective and varies from rider to rider; however, I'm told that I am spoiled living in Northern California, the birth placeof mountain biking. Living in NorCal gives you fairly easy access to trails in Tahoe and Downieville and Bay Area which are I would consider premier riding areas, and that's only touching the tip of the iceberg. Other states are awesome for riding such as Utah and Colorado, but I don't think I could just live there. I think I'd get cabin fever in the winters, you can only snowboard and spin on trainers for so long before you go crazy. Good luck with your moving decision!

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    I am going to say Denver, CO. You get the pluses of the city life with the mountains in your backyard.

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    For the last two years I had been determined to move out of Northern Michigan. After two years of research which included various threads similar to this one, many visits to different cities, reading all kinds of magazines, blah-blah-blah. I now live in Grand Junction. Less than a mile from the Lunch Loops trailhead.

    I know this is biased and rather subjective, but I must admit I'M RIGHT!!!

    BTW-I had the same criteria as you minus the healthcare thing.

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    feet are getting itchy also... so me an the better half are thinking about okanagan bc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ Skinner
    For the last two years I had been determined to move out of Northern Michigan. After two years of research which included various threads similar to this one, many visits to different cities, reading all kinds of magazines, blah-blah-blah. I now live in Grand Junction. Less than a mile from the Lunch Loops trailhead.

    I know this is biased and rather subjective, but I must admit I'M RIGHT!!!

    BTW-I had the same criteria as you minus the healthcare thing.
    That is funny being from Ohio I rode lower Michigan a lot and I took a few trips to northern Michigan and I love the rides up there. I just can't believe you wanted out of there so bad. The biking, the xc skiing, hiking opportunities....It is not Grand Junction but it is better than a stick in the eye. One of my favorite rides was segment a NCT. But good choice from your southerly neighbor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aword4you
    If you can handle Vancouver BC traffic, and don't mind the immigration stuff, go for it That's the only place I've visited in the past 5~ years that I'd consider moving to.
    I was wondering about this. Do you know what the deal is with working there and retaining US citizenship? Is it possible? I'll do some searching on my own, but maybe someone can quickly enlighten us.

    No way the traffic can be worse than Washington DC... one of the top 5 reasons I need to get out of here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Rico
    I'll throw a vote in for my little town of Auburn, CA. 30 miles above Sacramento and sits at about 1,500 ft, so you can ride year round. 50 + miles of great trails from downtown(5 miles away), and many trails you can access from neighborhoods. A ton of lakes and 1 hour to Tahoe, 45 minutes to Northstar, and 80 miles to Downieville.

    The town is very big into the outdoors and endurance racing.
    At only 1500 it's hot as hell in the dead of the summer and you get a lot more rain and weather in the winter compared to more desert areas. I live at 5000+' in Arizona and it never gets too hot or cold, we don't get much precip, riding is much more "year round". Decent trails in Auburn, but not all that much milege compared where I am now. Auburn doesn't suck, but it wouldn't be anywhere near the top of my list.

    Of course one can ride ANYWHERE at ANY TIME of the year. Sometimes you need studded tires, sometimes you need big fat snow tires, sometimes you need to ride at 4am when it's "only" 90 degrees, sometimes you need to keep the rides short due to exposure. I'm not quite that hardcore though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carnage
    You forgot Prescott, I had loads of fun at Thumb Butte and Granite basin. Since I'm a SoCal transplant in FL the only thing there that buged me was the elevation, and that was taken care of by the time I finished my first ride.
    Glad you liked it. We have riding surrounding the town on all sides now (used to just be 3 but the new technical-tracks at the lakes make "4"). Granite basin is also one of about 3-4 main riding areas that we have. We can link together these areas pretty easily too for bigger (if you thought you were already doing a big ride) rides. Literally hundreds of miles of trails and pretty much all of the bigger rides rack up the vertical quite quickly. It's easy to do 3000-5000 of vertical and the sky is the limit.
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    hah, the OP never came back... but 2 years later the thread is still being updated.

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    finding work won't be a problem

    I'm voting for Malta Montana. That's the closest town to Hell Hole Coulee, which is the most desolate, terrifying, empty, lonely, unvisited, and deadly place I have ever been. Malta is surrounded by millions of acres of federal land, the CMR which has hundred of miles of terrain following missouri breaks double track, Bedoin wildlife refuge, the Little Rocky Mountains, The mighty Missouri river, the best radio station in Montana (88.3 FM) the Maltana Motel, an Amtrack station, lots of bars stuffed with REAL cowboys and injuns, er, Natives, fistfights, rattlesnakes, wolves, cactus, nothingness, sheep, barbed wire, whiskey and the sweet sweet relief of death itself.

    I'd move there myself, I'm just afraid of having it too good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by desurfer
    Not Tampa, FL! High prices, low wages, and flat, boring trails. Sure, it's technical, but I miss real climbs and swooping singletrack.
    You could be stuck in South Florida and you would really know what miserable is. BTW- I just came back from Ohio and it is not much better there either.

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    Dude I lived in So Cal for 11 years when I was in med school etc. It sucks for mountain biking and road biking. I live in Nor cal where its better, but have visited moab, fruita and tahoe and think the bay area is a great compromise of amenities and biking/sports.

    So Cal is a complete compromise for other things to do, but not so good for mtb.
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    Looks to me like the OP posted two questions in one post.

    1) Best place to live: Wow, I like Hanalei Hawaii and I like Lake Tahoe.
    2) Best place to ride. Really like central Idaho and Mexico's Copper Canyon for ride experiences.

    Sometimes ya just can't combine the two and not get into an internet argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyMT
    Montana. Its the greatest place in the world.
    Couldn't agree more!

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    the CA trails might be good but the state as a whole is a mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyMT
    Montana. Its the greatest place in the world.

    This may be true, but the best mountain biking on earth is found on the Colorado Plateau. There is no arguing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roc865
    the CA trails might be good but the state as a whole is a mess.
    The state is a mess? Why do you say that? Is it just the few blurbs you read about in the news or is this from personal experience.

    I'm in Houston and I'm fascinated with wanting to move to CA although it'll probably never happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brentster
    The state is a mess? Why do you say that? Is it just the few blurbs you read about in the news or is this from personal experience.

    I'm in Houston and I'm fascinated with wanting to move to CA although it'll probably never happen.
    finiancially the state is a total mess. massive unemployment, deficits as big as lots of countries (like 30 billion), super high taxes, high cost of living and super crowded (estimated 50 million by 2025), freeways clogged. but great outdoor stuff for sure.

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    Wow. I'm moving to Grenoble...

    The OP wants to marry good riding, good living, and good healthcare job prospects. I suppose it all depends on what kind of healthcare job KL is looking for, but take a look at the Central PA (Rothrock SF down to Michaux). I have never lived there. Sadly, I live in Philly. However, PA as a whole has a ton of outdoorsy space (including MTB specific trails), a robust and active mountain biking population, low taxes and cost of living, 4 whole seasons, and a not-so-grand canyon! If you happen to be looking for ER work, jobs are plentiful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buddhak
    Wow. I'm moving to Grenoble...

    The OP wants to marry good riding, good living, and good healthcare job prospects. I suppose it all depends on what kind of healthcare job KL is looking for, but take a look at the Central PA (Rothrock SF down to Michaux). I have never lived there. Sadly, I live in Philly. However, PA as a whole has a ton of outdoorsy space (including MTB specific trails), a robust and active mountain biking population, low taxes and cost of living, 4 whole seasons, and a not-so-grand canyon! If you happen to be looking for ER work, jobs are plentiful.
    This is indeed an interesting thread, but considering that it was started over 2 years ago, we can only hope that the OP has found a job by now - and not gotten laid off already.


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    Western North Carolina. Not only great MTBing but cheap to live.

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    Nobody has said Santa Cruz, Ca.

    I was born and raised, so I'm biased. Just bicycle riding in general in that town is awesome. I was 1 of 2 freestyle BMX'ers in that town back in the 80's and 90's and now there are whole parks reserved for BMX bikes. Damn kids better appreciate what they have!

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    I pretty much hate Wisconsin winters but have to admit the mtn biking is pretty good. Best damn race series in the country (www.wors.org). Schools are pretty good overall and job market is ok. This year we have had 4 awesome months of riding and about 3 months of cold 40 degree riding with another 5 months of hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notaknob
    I'd say

    • Fruita
    • Denver
    • Tahoe
    • Reno
    • Bend
    • Flagstaff


    mainly as New Mexico, with Albuquerque, Santa Fe, Taos and some other irrelevant cities, all suck.
    ...


    Hey I've ridden this place, White Mesa if I remember correctly? Kind of a wierd, almost surreal experience along that exposed slope. Some of your other pics look familiar too just can't remember exactly. It's been a while since I was in Abq. Was a good place for relatively liveable 4 season climate plus easy access to great trails. Great food too!


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    I've lived in Park City, UT and Chattanooga,TN. Both are great.

    Park City- Tons of trails of great variety. Short season, but not so bad if you like to ski.
    Chattanooga - Year around riding. Great trails but mostly XC. Limited DH options.

    My dream place to live would be the Sun Valley / Stanley, ID area.

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    The answer is: Not where I live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dft
    finiancially the state is a total mess. massive unemployment, deficits as big as lots of countries (like 30 billion), super high taxes, high cost of living and super crowded (estimated 50 million by 2025), freeways clogged. but great outdoor stuff for sure.
    not to mention the f' ked up politicans. now i know all politicians are f' cked up but CA has some real beauties. pelosi, boxer, swartzeneggar...i lived in southern california for a year and some of the hospitals are going bankrupt and a part of it has to do with the illegals problem.
    it's unbelievable.. the cost of living, unless you and your wife and bringing in big paychecks or you're bill gates, it's ridiculous.
    nice outdoorsy stuff and all but i couldn't live there and it's not just the cost of living.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbkrid
    Not Boise
    what's up with boise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRIUMPH KID
    I pretty much hate Wisconsin winters but have to admit the mtn biking is pretty good. Best damn race series in the country (www.wors.org). Schools are pretty good overall and job market is ok. This year we have had 4 awesome months of riding and about 3 months of cold 40 degree riding with another 5 months of hell.
    My math makes that out to be about 30% of the time time the riding is decent...ouch! No wonder people from Wisconsin are so tough!

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    Quote Originally Posted by roc865
    what's up with boise?
    Nothing. It is totally down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gjenkins@
    Nothing. It is totally down.
    you mean you don't like it?
    sorry i'm out of the loop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by *KL*
    I was wondering if some of you could fill me in on where it's best to live if you love mountain biking. I'm in the process of making some changes and am planning a move, but haven't decided where to. I'm confident finding work won't be a problem. I just need to be near a city large enough for a hospital or two (I work in healthcare).

    I would like to live somewhere that has access to local trails, and has a large friendly cycling community. I also enjoy racing and hope to find somewhere that has a competitive local series. I also love other outdoor activities such as camping, hiking, skiing, and would like to learn to kayak.

    If you think you have the best mountain biking trails and cycling community tell me why and help make my decision easier.
    Actually there is such a place.. not where you would assume though. IMBA voted Kansas City, best urban trail system in the country. With the group www.earthriders.com maintaining the trail system, and providing a social bike community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roc865
    you mean you don't like it?
    sorry i'm out of the loop.
    The riding sucks. The people suck. You don't want to come here.

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    I'm heading to BC to find out what all the hype is about next year, but if you're looking at changing country at all, check out Canberra, Australia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gjenkins@
    The riding sucks. The people suck. You don't want to come here.
    gotcha

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasevr4
    I'm heading to BC to find out what all the hype is about next year, but if you're looking at changing country at all, check out Canberra, Australia.
    BC is on my list of places to visit, possibly the beginning of next summer.
    also, if i ever left the country i would seriously think about australia or switzerland if i had the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roc865
    gotcha
    I moved here for a job. The same week I was asked to interview, MountainBike magazine listed Boise as the number one mountain biking city in the country. I didn't like the terrain as much as I liked New Mexico, but the people here make up for it. It is more of an outdoor and fitness oriented town, IMO. I am slowly finding 'more interesting' places to ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gjenkins@
    I moved here for a job. The same week I was asked to interview, MountainBike magazine listed Boise as the number one mountain biking city in the country. I didn't like the terrain as much as I liked New Mexico, but the people here make up for it. It is more of an outdoor and fitness oriented town, IMO. I am slowly finding 'more interesting' places to ride.
    i remember talking to a beautiful flight attendant a few years ago. i asked her if she could live anywhere where would she want to go. she said boise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damitletsride!
    You mean you only mountain bike????? How boring.

    -kidding-

    At least you have it easy. I want a house that has access to some where i can windsurf and if possible not too far away from the sea with good waves for sufing, and i'd like some ski resorts nearby AND some mountain bike areas. TRY THAT!!
    Santa Cruz, Ca.

    Not the skiing part, but you're pretty much busy doing all the rest of the stuff already.

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    I've had the mixed fortune to live all over and . . .

    . . . I have seen some great spots to live and bike. It would be helpful to know more about your preferences, i.e.
    1. what type of riding do you like?
    2. how big a part of the equation is mountain biking?
    3. just how good should the mountain biking be?
    4. how close to the trails do you want to be?
    5. what other ameneties are you looking for? How important are they?
    6. are you looking for a "bike scene" or do you just like to ride?
    6. and the all important--what can you afford with your anticipated employment?

    Some have said Denver is good. By my criteria, Colorado Springs is better. I was able to live in the SW area a mere block from singletrack. The nearby ST was not that exciting, but within a mile, it led to dozens of miles of outstanding singletrack with great climbs, bomber descents, fantastic views, and fun technical areas. Bottom line was I had over 50 miles of quality singletrack I could hit without ever getting in my car. There are also 3 major biking parks within the city limits. Palmer Park alone has over 20 miles of singletrack ranging from easy beginner trails to full-on technical fest black diamond trails to killer off-trail freeride stunts. You also have easy day trips to anything accessible from Denver to the north and possibly the greatest trail of all, the Monarch Crest, to the Southwest. There are riedeable days in the winter, and when the weather gets bad, you're only an hour from Colorado's banana belt--Pueblo is rideable pretty much year round.

    There's a similar situation in Helena, Mt. Numerous trail networks easily accessible from town. Great singletrack, nice views, low crowding, and countless opportunites for fantastic adventures all within a day trip. Although it's the state capitol, Helena is still pretty small, so I'm not sure how plentiful the employment opportunities will be. Check also Bozeman and Missoula.

    Someone mentioned Flagstaff. Also a good choice. Lots of great riding close to town. Flag is high elevation, so the season isn't that long, but you're only 30 miles from Sedona where you can extend your season on some of the world's most sought after singletrack.

    Concur with Tahoe--if you can find employment. Hundreds of miles of great singletrack around the lake, you're a short drive from Downieville, and you can extend your season in the nearby Nevada desert.

    Buffalo/Sheridan, Wy if you''re not looking for big city amenities and the you can find the job you need. Many miles of remote, undiscovered singletrack. Short season, however.

    Check out Rapid City, SD. The Black Hills remain the most undererated MTB destination.

    There's a big hospital in St George, Utah. This would be real hard to beat. Great riding on the trails right next to town. A short drive to some of the best riding you'll ever find anywhere (i.e. Gooseberry Mesa, Little Creek Mountain, JEM trail). When the summer gets unbearably hot, you're an easy day trip from Cedar City/Brian Head with a great variety of rides at higher altitudes.

    Some have mentioned Park City. For your situation, you might want to look at Salt Lake City or Ogden. There is plenty of medical there and there are great trails next to town. You're also a short drive from Park City, so that's all accessible. The season is short, but the skiing is the best in the world--not a bad consolation. You're also within striking distance of Moab/Fruita with a longer season.

    As for Fruita, it'd be worth looking at Grand Junction. In fact, the Lunch Loops area (my personal fave, even over the 18 road and Kokopelli areas) is right next to Grand Junction. I think GJ has a sizeable hospital. There are rideable days in the winter, there are nearby mountains with quality singletrack for when the summer gets hot, and you're only an hour from Moab.

    Must be nice to have a portable career that gives so many options! Best o' luck and ENJOY!
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    do you know costa rica?

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