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    Bad riding/bike habits

    For those that are past the stage of denial, what habits do you admit that you have and maybe would like to work on?

    Personally, I need to work on my bad braking habits. I brake late and tend to drag my rear brake if I don't feel confident going through something challenging. There's also a few sections I "lock" my front brake on, which keeps me from even following a gentle curve in the trail, when I know just letting go would be far better. I learned far better braking habits once I got a dropper post and utilized it, but some habits stuck.

    I also need to stop avoiding the heat in the middle of the day, and putting off riding until later.

    A recent habit I broke out almost completely was hosing down my bike when it really didn't need it. It carried over from when I biked on the east coast, and now that I'm in SoCal, it's only dust and sweat really, which I find I can just wipe off.

    Has anyone else gone through similar challenges? What kind of tips/tricks did you use to overcome them? Share your bad habits and experiences with them.
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    My worst habit is that I keep riding even though I suck. You would think I'd take a hint, you know?

    But on a more serious note, I brake too often and probably at incorrect times.

    Also, as a somewhat beginner rider, I've had the habit of watching "where I am" as opposed to "where I'm going", i.e. not keeping my line of sight down the trail instead of right in front of me. Something I've gotten better at, but I still find myself reverting to that old habit at times for some reason.

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    I'm really trying to break the habit of trying to go around rather than over or through puddles/mud.

    Also constantly trying to brake before rather than during cornering.

    I'm currently really working on pointing with my laser during cornering.
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    PAST = Not enough confidence
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachariah View Post
    PAST = Not enough confidence
    PRESENT = Too much confidence
    Past = too much confidence, present = not enough confidence. I'll trade you! The only really bad habit is making excuses to NOT go biking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varaxis View Post
    I also need to stop avoiding the heat in the middle of the day, and putting off riding until later.
    Avoiding mid-day heat isn't a bad habit, it's just being smart.

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    I don't consider it bad. You just need to plan for it. Choose a trail with shade, especially one that doesn't have long climbs that's fully exposed to the sun, or maybe choose a trail around the lake since there's usually a cool breeze. Plenty on topics on managing heat, to help with that preparation.
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    When riding with my wife, I have a very bad habit of looking back over my shoulder to be sure she cleared that section, and didn't take a spill. Unfortunately I realized this after a bad crash that I just had surgery from yesterday. Lesson learned the hard way I guess.
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    breaking frames, wheels, bones....?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YOUR HONOR View Post
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    Use it, use it, use it while you still have it.

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    Breaking brakes most likely. If you brake too hard you can break your brakes. Or at least you could break your brake levers.

    Brake is a funny word. So is break.

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    ...if you have a "bike habit", there's no such thing as "bad-riding".
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    ^ 13th post noticed it.

    Anyway, my bad bike riding habit would be

    I tend to follow the bad habits of my co-riders when I'm on a group ride. I should find the courage to say "No, crossing an intersection on a red light or going against the traffic direction or chatting three riders abreast is wrong."

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    Quote Originally Posted by docter_zab View Post
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    Also constantly trying to brake before rather than during cornering.
    Are you braking before the corner or during? I can't figure it out but I think you should be braking before the corner, not during?
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    Bad riding/bike habits

    Cool topic. Mine is definitely braking too much coming into corners. My riding has improved vastly in all other areas, but for some reason I still can't get myself to take a corner at speed, mostly because washing out here in AZ means a not-so-fun run in with cactus usually

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    Re: Bad riding/bike habits

    Bike neglect (still covered in 3 week old mud), forgetting to look up in the rocks but my worst habit has got to be forgetting to air down at the trailhead, understeering wildly and winding up in a bush/ditch/sewer (melbourne has some sketchy trails).

    Today I realised I also have a propensity to try dumb shit with no speed while im supposed to be cruising with the gf. Wallride attempt to tree gone right

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    Everyone's got a few and despite learning and knowing better, we all happen to revert back on occasion

    My biggest bad habit was switching to clipless too soon after starting to MTB and not learning properly on flats, so don't keep good weight/contact with the pedals. Learned this last week after having a nice fall and doing my knee in fairly good and possibly tweaked from unclipping, so switched to some flats for a couple weeks while I let it heal - Hit a jump and feet floated off the pedals, not a nice feeling. Did learn though that I like the freedom of clipless and that you get much more "easy" movement than with flats - I find on flats you have to unweight your foot and reposition it, for clipless you can just pivot and use the float in the pedal to change foot placement and weight distribution - learned this riding the flats on off camber trail, wasn't nearly as confident or fast on those off camber corners as I couldn't move about on the pedals like I'm accustomed to.

    Biggest bad habit I broke was the always dragging the brakes instead of modulating them on and off on steep and/or long descents, also to use them like if you do in a race car, pick your spot to brake and lay down full on brakes and then let off and ride, rinse and repeat, feather on occasion when you need to scrub a little speed, easiest thing to stop overheating your brakes and brake fade and hand pump.
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    Braking for me as well. I tend to come into corners a bit hot. Rather than scrub a bit of speed early and commit to carving i feather the rear brake while cornering.

    Past denial, i know this is an incorrect technique and i am working on it. When i lay off the brakes while cornering i can actually feel the bike pop out with momentum. When i do it wrong i have to mash a few times to get back up to speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donthucktoflat View Post
    Bike neglect (still covered in 3 week old mud), forgetting to look up in the rocks but my worst habit has got to be forgetting to air down at the trailhead, understeering wildly and winding up in a bush/ditch/sewer (melbourne has some sketchy trails).

    Today I realised I also have a propensity to try dumb shit with no speed while im supposed to be cruising with the gf. Wallride attempt to tree gone right
    Sounds like we have the same bad habits, although I don't know what you mean by, "forgetting to air down at the trail head". Do you mean catching your breath or something like that?

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    I'll "fess up" to two, one of witch I've corrected. They are both things that I should know better after over 25 years riding the dirt.

    1) The most dangerous(?), but the one I've corrected is, riding too often, both up and downhill with my thumbs on top of the bar, not hooked under (fingers on top, thumb under). I shoot a lot of photos, and from time to time video of rides. Someone, here on MTBR was watching one of my video posts and commented, "how many times have you gone over the bars with your grip like that?" I commented back that I didn't even notice, but "thank you!". So that one was fixed on the next ride, and has been ever since. Where, when, or how I ever got into that bad habit I'll never know.

    2) The other is one that MhzMonster posted here, too often looking back to make sure others (my wife) have cleared a section. Thankfully doing that has never gotten me into anything I could correct out of, but I know if I keep doing it my "number will be up" sometime.

    Good thread going on here.
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    I tend to mash big gears too much of the time. It's an old single speeding habit that doesn't serve me well when I'm riding my 6" travel FS bike.

    I've been riding clipless pedals since 1994 and somewhere along the way lost the ability to bunny hop without them. It took quite a bit of practice and attention to proper technique but I managed to relearn the skill, and can now clear a 12" obstacle with flats. It serves me well on the trail regardless of what type of pedals I'm using at the time.
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    I read this thread before I hit the trails this am,after reading all the braking stuff I decided I'd try and keep my speed up a little more in corners today. I did fine until a short gentle curve with a tree on my left and didnt use body english around it and down I went. This was after seeing my bike was really low on air in the rear with no spare tube and Target not having a 29er tube.So back home I go to get my back up ride and that one has low pressure in the front, maybe I should have just skipped riding today but that statement seems ridiculous. I dont think I'm going to read this thread anymore before a trail ride in the future.
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    I had a bad habit not pacing myself on what are supposed to be long rides, doing the whole show up to blow up thing. Not so friendly on the bike parts either, leading to some mechanicals. I've learned the bikes can go surprisingly fast with a much lighter finessing touch, when compared to reckless man handling. Trying for a balance between the two.
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    Not getting my butt off the seat enough!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcrn12 View Post
    Not getting my butt off the seat enough!
    First thing I taught my daughters was weight on your feet, not on your seat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varaxis View Post
    Has anyone else gone through similar challenges? What kind of tips/tricks did you use to overcome them? Share your bad habits and experiences with them.
    One habit that I have found difficult to break is assuming that if the rider in front of me walks an obstacle then I should do the same. Usually I am riding with someone of similar ability and figure that if they can't handle a section of trail then I probably can't either. But that is not always the case- sometimes they are just having an "off" day or are playing it safe.

    I always scold myself when I am walking my bike down something and can see a good line that I should have ridden. Sometimes I will go back and give it a try, other times I just let it go...
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    My biggest problem is I climb to fast on trails I'm new to
    and blow up. Also my technical skills suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcrn12 View Post
    Not getting my butt off the seat enough!
    I found it extremely hard to break this habit, just due to exhaustion. Every time I'm on an off camber straight with a few small rocks in the way, I am reminded that I need to get out the saddle. It's so awkward to have your front go around an obstacle, yet have the rear clip, then you find your rear end sliding down the sloped side of the trail with your whole lower body twisted towards the trail to no avail. I always tell myself after the fact that I need to gtfo out of the saddle... there's this section like that right after a steep sandy climb on my trails too. On my FS I'm usually fine, but on my HT... oh man, if you get lazy and rest your ass in the saddle on a rough uphill you will go even slower than a FS and maybe get even more tired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Salt View Post

    1) The most dangerous(?), but the one I've corrected is, riding too often, both up and downhill with my thumbs on top of the bar, not hooked under (fingers on top, thumb under). I shoot a lot of photos, and from time to time video of rides. Someone, here on MTBR was watching one of my video posts and commented, "how many times have you gone over the bars with your grip like that?" I commented back that I didn't even notice, but "thank you!". So that one was fixed on the next ride, and has been ever since. Where, when, or how I ever got into that bad habit I'll never know.
    I still do that same thing time to time, and was super bad when I first started riding. I attributed it to being a gymnast growing up, and thumbs over the bar is how you swing on the uneven bars, so I think it was just a physiologically natural thing for me to do.

    My biggest bad habits are all regarding descending and cornering at speed and being really "brake happy." My boyfriend says my biggest bad habit is "monster trucking" technical stuff instead of choosing clean lines. I like monster trucking personally, LOL.

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    burning a bowl half way through a ride.

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    Not having enough balls to get much beyond being a seasoned beginner.

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    Re: Bad riding/bike habits

    Quote Originally Posted by Geohound View Post
    Sounds like we have the same bad habits, although I don't know what you mean by, "forgetting to air down at the trail head". Do you mean catching your breath or something like that?
    I pretty much only ride to the trails so I pump up my tyres to roll a little faster. Get to the trail, forget to let air out cos im excited, go hard at first corner and lowside into a bush.

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    I still clip out of my pedals when there's some sketchy stuff coming up. I know I'm more likely to crash in doing so, but I think it's the comfort factor of being able to easily bail if necessary.
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    I need to warm up and stretch more before going full throttle. I have gotten disabling cramps in the middle of my last ride, so much so that I had to walk out, with both legs barely being able to bend. I believe that I may have strained my quads this time as I have been sore for days.

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    On slow uphills and flat sections I tend to only look 5-15 feet in from of me. It gets worse the more tired I get.
    How can anyone who's been riding as long as I have, be so slow???

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    Quote Originally Posted by YOUR HONOR View Post
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    breaking? hell, I meant braking! Some days I brake a little more often than others. A few years ago I peeled back the inner forearm skin from the right wrist to near the elbow in an odd bike accident. Wasn't fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphajaguars View Post
    Not having enough balls to get much beyond being a seasoned beginner.
    Hey...that's a STRENGTH, not weakness.....unless you have unlimited free health care and pleasant ER waiting rooms that serve coffee and donuts and such.
    I've been a seasoned beginner for going on 25 years now.

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    I run too much air pressure.

    Most of my rides include some pavement to get to the trails where I ride, so I don't notice it until I lose traction out on the trail.

    I'm doing better lately (running F:26, R:28), but since I recently got a new bike (and new tires) I'm still trying to figure my ideal pressure.
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    My cornering, I have always leaned over with the bike without doing the whole hips out over the bike, its hard to correct after so many years of it, Id say 80% of corners are fine with my technique but those other 20% is where ill lose a race.

    Also I tend to rely too heavily on the rear brake rather than the front like I should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uglyguy2 View Post
    Breaking brakes most likely. If you brake too hard you can break your brakes. Or at least you could break your brake levers. Brake is a funny word. So is break.
    Ah, my bad habit is Braking Bad -- somebody had to say it.
    Anyway, I'm working going to one-fingered braking from two-fingered braking. Two-fingered braking is a hard habit to break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by June Bug View Post
    Ah, my bad habit is Braking Bad -- somebody had to say it.
    Anyway, I'm working going to one-fingered braking from two-fingered braking. Two-fingered braking is a hard habit to break.
    Upgrading to hydro's from my BB7's made that transition easy.

    That, and I swapped the shifters and brake levers so I can only reach them with one finger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphajaguars View Post
    Upgrading to hydro's from my BB7's made that transition easy.

    That, and I swapped the shifters and brake levers so I can only reach them with one finger.
    I just swapped the shifter and brakes too but I had to get used to what finger pressure yielded what stopping power. That is where the real "adjustment" takes place especially on those minute brake adjustments as I try to just scrub off enough speed but still maintain good momentum.

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    Bad habits for me are;

    1. Mashing big gears
    2. Not working on technical skills i.e. bunny hop

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphajaguars View Post
    Not having enough balls to get much beyond being a seasoned beginner.
    You just defined my life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphajaguars View Post
    ....to get much beyond being a seasoned beginner.
    There is something so very Zen about being a seasoned beginner. I like it!

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    Particularly bad habits? ... I've one bad habit in particular.

    I camp where ever I like ... and if challenged (which doesn't happen that often, but has mostly happened from interested fellow campers), I cite a common law, described in (all several charters of) the Magna Carta ... that long-distance travellers have the right to camp on unused or vacant Crown land. That's any land owned by the Crown. In the US you don't have a Monarchy hey? ... well bad luck, we do in Oz.

    Camp anywhere ... even blatantly. State your common law right, in the Magna Carta, and the cops will just walk away.



    In Ozzi passports this is written, something which enhances my bad camping habit ... lawfully of course.




    I hope that this helps when you visit Oz.

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    Braking in corners.

    Body positioning when leaning the bike.

    Not riding enough technical stuff.

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    I'm still trying to get in the habit of shifting down at stops... I have some hard take offs once in a while LOL

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    I think I hold my breath while climbing technical features. It's hard to catch myself doing it, but sometimes a short technical section will leave me winded for no reason. At that point I call it and walk. If I concentrate on breathing, I loose my line and hang up somewhere.

    Apparently I'm bad at multitasking while riding.
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    My worst habit would be pinch flatting on a regular basis. Before everyone gets on me about tubeless! I've tried it and had problems there too. I usually run 24-26 PSI in the rear of my bike but still manage to find the rock in the middle of the trail and "PFFT!" a flat is born.

    Now riding a hard tail is most likely not the major problem. I think it is poor line choice "monster trucking" and possibly where I place my body weight on descents (further back).

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    Curious what rims/wheels you're running? When I first got my Trance 8 years ago I had this same problem and figured it out to the stock Mavic XM117 rims, could never run below 35 PSI and I only weighed 175lbs. Got 2 Mavic EN321 rims laced to XT hubs to replace the stock set and never had an issue after that - those XM117 were just too narrow to let you run fat tyres at low pressures.

    On my Stans Flows now, I regularly run down to 19 PSI in the front on slower trails without issue using tubes or not, normally run higher though in the 21-24 PSI range depending on the speed and composition of the trail.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coondog#77 View Post
    My worst habit would be pinch flatting on a regular basis. Before everyone gets on me about tubeless! I've tried it and had problems there too. I usually run 24-26 PSI in the rear of my bike but still manage to find the rock in the middle of the trail and "PFFT!" a flat is born.

    Now riding a hard tail is most likely not the major problem. I think it is poor line choice "monster trucking" and possibly where I place my body weight on descents (further back).
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    They are stock Bontragers. Not sure of the model, but I know they are narrow.

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    I am still struggling with a lot of the cornering principals that Lee McCormick and Brian Lopes talk about in Mastering Mountain Bike Skills

    Mainly it is leaning the bike over and really pushing weight down into that outside foot/pedal to keep the bike glued to the dirt. I've done it hundreds of times before- where I have tons of heat coming into a corner, I do the technique correctly, and I whip around the turn so fast that I can feel the G's. It is magical my friends.

    But sometimes I come into a turn and I lose the confidence, I start telling myself stories like "I'm going too fast for this turn.", "Its too bumpy and my rigid fork is going to skip.", "Its too sandy and my tire will slip out." Then I start braking too early/too much, and then I do the turn grandma style, without the technique that they discuss in the book. It's a constant battle with confidence in my own skill and bike. I need to get consistent.

    BTW- If you don't have the book I linked above you should get it. It is the best mountain bike skills book out right now and is only $17 (get the paperback instead of the Kindle- You'll appreciate the full color photos). If you already have it then read it again. I've reviewed it 3 times and find new learnings that improve my riding each time.

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    Grabbing a little brake in tight berms. I know I can make it through without braking, but sometimes I get just a touch nervous. It seems this is a common problem.

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    Not cleaning my bike after a ride. Sometimes I pick my bike by which one is the dirtiest already when the weather is bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tductape View Post
    Not cleaning my bike after a ride. Sometimes I pick my bike by which one is the dirtiest already when the weather is bad.
    Same problem here, never really feel like cleaning my bike after a ride...plus, my bike always looks cooler with mudd on it
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    Quote Originally Posted by NFLcheesehead1 View Post
    Same problem here, never really feel like cleaning my bike after a ride...plus, my bike always looks cooler with mudd on it
    Likwise, and I honestly feel the same way, not like it's really doing any harm right? I mean, as long as I didn't come in through pouring rain and the bike dried off through the ride home... Tell me I'm wrong

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    Strava, that is my bad biking habit... I am addicted to being KOM and its getting to the point where I'm seriously putting myself in danger. Literally have KOM on every mountain segment in the town I live in and the next town over, and half the road KOMs in my town as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shredjekyll View Post
    Strava, that is my bad biking habit... I am addicted to being KOM and its getting to the point where I'm seriously putting myself in danger. Literally have KOM on every mountain segment in the town I live in and the next town over, and half the road KOMs in my town as well.
    I just recently got hooked on this, Although I'm a newb, I really like to see where I stack up.

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    I'm new, but I definitely brake too much. I need to learn how to jump my bike over downed trees as well, last time I attempted I failed and went OTB. I'm getting the look ahead thing down after falling off plank walks a few times.

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    braking while turning... doh!!

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    giving up too easily on stuff that i know i can ride but just don't feel like risking it... eg. big drops or steep rough downhills or logs that I could ride but wuss out on

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    not being able to unclip from my left pedal, can do it on my right with no issues but the left...I either don't have the strength (yet) or my leg just doesn't want to do it in a timely matter. This is really getting me into trouble on very technical terrain, and unfortunately most of the better places to ride around here are rather challenging - confidence goes way down when I'm not sure if I'll be able to dismount from my bike.

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    OK, this can be VERY dangerous, so do yourself a favour and check...that the spring tension on both pedals are the same, that that left pedals spring is the same length - I had a right pedal with shorter spring and hence when tightened the same amount of turns it was much harder to get out of, caused me a nasty fall. If not that, then know that we are mostly not symmetrical, maybe both legs don't have the same rage of motion, your cleat may need repositioning to make it possible to unclip with your left foot - I have this issue with my right, so cleat position is slightly different so I don't have to twist foot out so far for it o release.

    Quote Originally Posted by Geohound View Post
    not being able to unclip from my left pedal, can do it on my right with no issues but the left...I either don't have the strength (yet) or my leg just doesn't want to do it in a timely matter. This is really getting me into trouble on very technical terrain, and unfortunately most of the better places to ride around here are rather challenging - confidence goes way down when I'm not sure if I'll be able to dismount from my bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    OK, this can be VERY dangerous, so do yourself a favour and check...that the spring tension on both pedals are the same, that that left pedals spring is the same length - I had a right pedal with shorter spring and hence when tightened the same amount of turns it was much harder to get out of, caused me a nasty fall. If not that, then know that we are mostly not symmetrical, maybe both legs don't have the same rage of motion, your cleat may need repositioning to make it possible to unclip with your left foot - I have this issue with my right, so cleat position is slightly different so I don't have to twist foot out so far for it o release.
    Thank you for the reply! I hadn't thought of cleat position honestly. I had set the spring tension on both pedals to the lowest setting (minus sign) for both sides of the pedal and have been having this issue so I think I need to try what you suggested, was honestly starting to think I should get some flats, I'll report back.

    P.S. this has been the root of nearly all my crashes except on notable digger on a sharp downhill single track turn where I was auto disengaged from them. when I know it's the pedal causing it, it's always at a slower speed but non the less I end up with some pain 48 hours after - doesn't take much.

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    Something else to consider, try multi release cleats. I was in the same boat, and even went back to flats for a while. But, now that I found the multi release and using good pedals, I can honestly say I will never ride flats again

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    My problem was I didn't know better, so with the shorter spring I tightened the screw down a couple turns till it engaged the spring, THEN I started counting my turns in to match the other pedal. Yes damn dangerous, don't know HTF this got by QC, but it caused me a sideways somersault down a mountain that luckily was interrupted by a tree. Also confidence doing anything was just never there if I had to bail or dab quickly.

    As to the cleat angle, yes, all appendages are attached slightly different on most people, ligaments more or less flexible etc, etc, so cleat placement to fit range of motion is important - I can now rotate my right leg out further than a few years ago, but thanks to a fugged up hip this is something I've had to deal with, can rotate inwards no problem and learned to unclip just that way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Geohound View Post
    Thank you for the reply! I hadn't thought of cleat position honestly. I had set the spring tension on both pedals to the lowest setting (minus sign) for both sides of the pedal and have been having this issue so I think I need to try what you suggested, was honestly starting to think I should get some flats, I'll report back........P.S. this has been the root of nearly all my crashes except on notable digger on a sharp downhill single track turn where I was auto disengaged from them. when I know it's the pedal causing it, it's always at a slower speed but non the less I end up with some pain 48 hours after - doesn't take much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    My problem was I didn't know better, so with the shorter spring I tightened the screw down a couple turns till it engaged the spring, THEN I started counting my turns in to match the other pedal. Yes damn dangerous, don't know HTF this got by QC, but it caused me a sideways somersault down a mountain that luckily was interrupted by a tree. Also confidence doing anything was just never there if I had to bail or dab quickly.

    As to the cleat angle, yes, all appendages are attached slightly different on most people, ligaments more or less flexible etc, etc, so cleat placement to fit range of motion is important - I can now rotate my right leg out further than a few years ago, but thanks to a fugged up hip this is something I've had to deal with, can rotate inwards no problem and learned to unclip just that way.
    I'm not sure I understand what your saying here as it looks like pretty much what I did with each pedal besides the fact that I didn't count and just turned the screws on both sides of the pedals all the way to the left (I think it was) to the minus sign.

    As for cleat position, I went to the LBS the other day and was told that there was nothing that could be done to help me as it was all the way forward. For what it's worth, I watched a video on youtube regarding cleat adjustment and found that I could twist it's position around some rather than just move it froward and back. I got the feeling that the mechanic at the store just didn't want to deal with me....Maybe I'm wrong.

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    My bad habit is that after a long day of riding, I get either tired or lazy and start taking hard fast corners on the seat and sitting too upright. You know what happens next... the front gets light ... the bike washes out.

    When I'm that tired, It's best for me just to slow down through them.

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    Well I just found a new bad habit I'm guilty of. Laying in bed at 3am reading MTBR when I have to be up in a few hours for a day of downhill fun at snow summit. Can't sleep!

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    Attachment 825050Your shop mech is an *******, he didn't want to deal with you or actually doesn't know what he's talking about - You can move your cleats for/aft, side to side and rotate them. What I do to figure out a starting point for people is to ask them to walk towards me and then stop with both feet parallel and look at their natural tendency when they walk and stop, e.g, I walk/stand with my toes out, heals in, so if I put my cleats just straight on my shoes it wouldn't let me keep my feet in their natural position. When I set my cleats they're all the way forward and all the way to the inside as far as they can go and then they're rotates so if I draw a straight line and intersect the toe and heal boxes the line runs from my big toe to the outside of my heal (roughly). This let's me pedal with my natural heal in/toe out stance, which also then makes it easy to unclip without unnecessary strain.

    Quote Originally Posted by Geohound View Post
    I'm not sure I understand what your saying here as it looks like pretty much what I did with each pedal besides the fact that I didn't count and just turned the screws on both sides of the pedals all the way to the left (I think it was) to the minus sign.

    As for cleat position, I went to the LBS the other day and was told that there was nothing that could be done to help me as it was all the way forward. For what it's worth, I watched a video on youtube regarding cleat adjustment and found that I could twist it's position around some rather than just move it froward and back. I got the feeling that the mechanic at the store just didn't want to deal with me....Maybe I'm wrong.
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    I've felt rushed and a bother when I've been in there more often than not, he seems more concerned with his own personal business, the other two places around town just exude this sort of apathy which is of no help to me lol. Wish I had a place that offered actual fitting services and people that were eager to help a newbie out, regardless, just means I need to learn from other resources and the community.

    As for the cleat, I think I know what to do here, I'll just have to play with it, ride the rail beds with my multi-tool and adjust where necessary. I really appreciate your help.

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    I figured out an issue I have this weekend. I have to stop being scared by features on the trails. I often don't ride features that I think are too much for me, or let them psych me out to the point where I don't make them because in my mind, I'm not good enough to ride them. I cleared a feature 2 days in a row this weekend on a trail system that I have ridden numerous times, and have never made because I lay on the brakes when I come to it, thinking I need to go slowly over it to be safer. I need to MAN UP!!

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    Clipping trees with my handlebars is another bad habit.

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    Weight balance, and it is getting worse the more I ride with my wife.
    She is just learning and I we are on beginner trails so I don't have to shift my weight back as I do when I ride more difficult trails and push harder on them. So now when I ride with my buddies I am riding harder in to corners with my weight too far forward. I have come close to OTB a couple of times but so far have been very lucky.

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    Had tried to attach an image this AM but didn't seem to work putting it "Inline", so just did it as an attachment and it's showing up now. But basically yes, you need to ride and adjust until it feels comfortable to pedal and to release, but make sure you do the bolts up tight enough that they won't back out while you're trying to find the right place, as then they're a ***** to get out the pedal without the shoe.
    Quote Originally Posted by Geohound View Post
    ...As for the cleat, I think I know what to do here, I'll just have to play with it, ride the rail beds with my multi-tool and adjust where necessary. I really appreciate your help.
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    IMO it is not pedaling on the downhill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luvdabeach2001 View Post
    Weight balance, and it is getting worse the more I ride with my wife.
    She is just learning and I we are on beginner trails so I don't have to shift my weight back as I do when I ride more difficult trails and push harder on them. So now when I ride with my buddies I am riding harder in to corners with my weight too far forward. I have come close to OTB a couple of times but so far have been very lucky.
    I like to use slow rides to practice my form and weight distribution. Will become second nature soon enough but you can use nice big positive movements when riding slow which translate well into subtle flicks and hobs when you're up to speed. Try it. Ride attacking always and see it improve you on the trail

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