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    ... and if we just ... Wilson River Trail all to myself

    I rode the Wilson River Trail Sunday, from the Elk Creek Trail Head. I headed west about two and a half hours, then headed back. I took a bunch of pictures, which you can see herel.

    I was afraid I'd run into snow, but I decided that if I did, I'd just get some exercise slogging. It turned out that snow wasn't a problem until about 3 hours into the ride, and I was ready to turn around by then any way!
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    I saw two hikers the first 2 hours, and then 3 hikers on the way back.

    No other bikes!
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    How do you get there?

    Pic looks nice
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    Wilson river has been one of my regulars this winter also, since it stays below about 1000'. We debated between that and syncline last weekend but picked Syncline . Looks like you had an awesome time out there.

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    Elk creek campground trailhead is located off Hwy 6 a few miles West of the Browns Camp/University Falls trail. There is tons of info out there how to get to University Falls.

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    I have being before at Brown camp, so i should find it.

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    So the trail wasn't a total mud bog? I have known people that have ridden in the Brown's Camp area this time of year that described mud up to their axles.

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    Trails in great shape

    I rode the Wilson River Trail on the 11th when it was crappy weather and it was in great shape then too. The difference between Brown's Camp and the Wilson River trail is that Wilson River was specifically designed for winter riding, with great drainage, so it stays in pretty decent shape, where as Brown's Camp has natural springs all over the trail, crappy drainage and the like.
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    New question here. Do you know the whole trail

    Quote Originally Posted by thorir
    Wilson river has been one of my regulars this winter also, since it stays below about 1000'. We debated between that and syncline last weekend but picked Syncline . Looks like you had an awesome time out there.
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    Yes, it turned out well. And I almost hit the bike path! Silly me.

    Question: do you know the whole Wilson River Trail? I have only started at the Elk Creek campground. The farthest I've made it is about 10 miles or so. I made it past a bunch of dead fall to a place where I'd climbed to about 1800 ft., and snow blocked the trail (though only about 2" deep, but I'd run out of time, as well).

    Do you know that section of trail meets back up with the road?

    I'm thinking of driving to the other end of the trail and riding East, in my attempt to learn the whole trail.

    I understand part of the trail is still under construction, i.e. the trail only exists on paper in some places. My map for the region is somewhat dated, so I could use all the info I can get.
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    New question here. Ride some time

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    I have being before at Brown camp, so i should find it.
    It looks like it'll be wet again this weekend. Big surprise. Sunday might be a good day to ride this again ...
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    Got me instrested

    Looks like we got quite a wait before the alpine stuff (my preferred elixir) opens up due to the snowpack. So I'm looking to expand the repertoire. I usually hit Three Corner Rock pretty often, but the report has it that the snow is low. I gotta check out this Brown's Camp-Gale's Creek-Wilson River triumverate.

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    Yes, Brown Camp at this year is muddy. once you are done ride it, you can not tell were are the bikes parts and were are your legs.

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    There were a few times this winter that, as I drove through Brown's camp there was a considerable amount of snow on the ground. But, by the time I got to Elk Creek the ground was dry (maybe frozen but dry). This trail was designed properly and does drain very well. I know there are some PUMP guys who regularly do maintenance out there too.

    It sounds like you have ridden most of what is out there. Here is some additional info on the trail:
    http://www.volcanorunning.com/runs/Tillamook/index.htm
    We generally ride from Elk creek to King's mountain and back, about 8 miles. It isn't an epic or anything, but when everything else is under snow it is a good option. Also a good option for your beginner buddies since there really isn't anything technical on this trail. A couple steep hills in the beginning, but you can always hike those if necessary.

    Just a word of warning, my buddy's truck got broken into at the Elk Creek Trailhead about 2 months ago... damn meth heads.

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    I looked on the map and some link it provide , but it seams like a place for hiking. can we go there with bikes? also do you know if the orange is allrady usable to ride on?

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    Sorry for the confusion. That link is to a "trail runner" webpage since I don't know of a biker one with the same info . It does have the disclaimer "Note to Mountain Bikers: All of these loops are open to cyclist except for the King/Elk Mtn Loop." That statement is true, because bikers are not allowed on the king's mountain or elk mountain trails. But, the Wilson river trail which is the yellow "connector" on that map is absolutely rideable, and fun to boot.

    Hope it works out for ya!

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    thanks for the clear. but is Elk to King is rideable?

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    YES

    As an out&back you can ride from the Elk Creek trailhead, to the King's Mountain Trailhead via the Wilson River trail (the yellow/orange trail shown in the earlier link).

    Enjoy.

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    This Sunday?

    Quote Originally Posted by thorir
    YES

    As an out&back you can ride from the Elk Creek trailhead, to the King's Mountain Trailhead via the Wilson River trail (the yellow/orange trail shown in the earlier link).

    Enjoy.
    I am planning on hitting this great trail once again, partly 'cause it's supposed to continue to be wet around here ...

    I'm thinking of starting between 10AM and noon, if anybody is interested in joining in ...
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    Is it as fun as Browns camp? During the summer we did Browns/Rogers Camp or Gayles creek across the way every week.
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    Perhaps?

    Quote Originally Posted by Law
    Is it as fun as Browns camp? During the summer we did Browns/Rogers Camp or Gayles creek across the way every week.
    I do not know, since I have not yet ridden Brown's Camp. I suspect not, as this trail is not very technical, excepting the exposure in several places, and a trickle crossing or two. But at least this is not muddy and not (yet) crowded.

    I must admit I did a bunch of hike-a-bike when I got to the steep section, and my bum knee is paying for it this week, but what the heck, it was still worth it!
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    It is no where near as technical, nor does it have the elevation change as Brown's camp. It is more similar to Gayles creek but has a somewhat better view as you are along the Wilson river for most of the time. I'd just use it as a fall-back if Brown's camp is too muddy/snowy/full when you get there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thorir
    It is no where near as technical, nor does it have the elevation change as Brown's camp. It is more similar to Gayles creek but has a somewhat better view as you are along the Wilson river for most of the time. I'd just use it as a fall-back if Brown's camp is too muddy/snowy/full when you get there.

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    Thanks, yeah, for some reason the first climb out of the Rogers Camp parking lot makes a buddy puke 2 out of 3 times. Then he is fine from there. No where else we have ridden have I seen him do it. He blames the Carls Jr. breakfast burrito everytime.

    I quite like the Rogers camp area, but maybe we will try something new anyway. I find that the Gayles creek portion that runs closest to hwy 6 to be fun, but the rest of the stuff on that side is somewhat boring. Pretty, though

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    There is a first climb out of Elk Creek CG that gives the first climb out of Browns Camp a run for it. The Elk Creek climb isn't nearly as long, but the last 50' or so are quite steep.

    Anyways, still a good option for just changing things up now and then.

    How far have you ridden the Gayles Creek portion? Just like 2miles down from Brown's Camp to the Galyes Creek trail head? I heard that trail keeps going for like 10 miles...

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    I have ridden up Gayle's creek up about 5 miles from the campground/trailhead, not counting that part of the trail that goes from across the street (Hwy 6) from Brown's Camp/Rogers Camp area and then goes 2 miles down to the campground. I have ridden that part too, and it is the best part.

    The trail that leads from Gayles Creek campground and away from hwy 6 is very up and down. No climbs too long, but no long descents either. Not my favorite. But if you take the dirt road that is up above Gayles Creek, sorry I cant remember the name of it, but if you ride that for a couple of miles you can take a trail that is fairly fun down to the gayles creek trail. It is very smooth, like Wilson River.

    On another note, we rode wilson river on Saturday, is was ok, and has some good rhythm sections. I worry about taking out someone else riding from the opposite direction, or hikers. I liked the trail though. We rode in the Browns/Rogers camp area yesterday. It was great. Still pretty wet in spots but not so much that it caked the bikes in mud. There is still a couple of streams running through the trail, but it was very rideable.

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    Wow that looks awesome, bet you had a great time!
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    Thanks for the update.

    I had seen that the Gales Creek trail was rideable on my Tillamook forest map, and had wondering what it was like. I have only done the section between Gales Creek and Browns Camp so I figured if the rest of the trail was like that it might be worthwhile to explore. Sounds like that section of trail isn't all that exciting though. Still might check it out if I get burnt out on the regular stuff this summer but not going to make it a priority.

    Thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Law
    I have ridden up Gayle's creek up about 5 miles from the campground/trailhead, not counting that part of the trail that goes from across the street (Hwy 6) from Brown's Camp/Rogers Camp area and then goes 2 miles down to the campground. I have ridden that part too, and it is the best part.

    The trail that leads from Gayles Creek campground and away from hwy 6 is very up and down. No climbs too long, but no long descents either. Not my favorite. But if you take the dirt road that is up above Gayles Creek, sorry I cant remember the name of it, but if you ride that for a couple of miles you can take a trail that is fairly fun down to the gayles creek trail. It is very smooth, like Wilson River.

    On another note, we rode wilson river on Saturday, is was ok, and has some good rhythm sections. I worry about taking out someone else riding from the opposite direction, or hikers. I liked the trail though. We rode in the Browns/Rogers camp area yesterday. It was great. Still pretty wet in spots but not so much that it caked the bikes in mud. There is still a couple of streams running through the trail, but it was very rideable.
    Is the road you are thinking of, the Storey Burn Rd. just off of Hwy 6 across the street from Brown's Camp? I sometimes park in the gravel lot just off the hwy where the Gales Creek TH is to go down 2mi to the campground. I usually climb up Story Burn instead for 15min (about 2miles) to a dead end at the left side of the road a where a TH for sk goes to the left or right of the dead end. I usually take the trail to the left towards the hwy for sweet, fast, buttery smooth sk section for about 2miles to almost the end of the Tillamook historic trail (trail traverses across and underneath hwy 6 on sk), about 1.5 miles before end of Brown's camp loop. Then I climb up the Tillimook trail at the moto lot for the lovely short, cruesome climb for a loop around. Extends the Brown's loop about another 5.5miles, making the ride a 15 mile 1 1/2 loop instead of the usual 8.5mi loop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgusta
    Is the road you are thinking of, the Storey Burn Rd. just off of Hwy 6 across the street from Brown's Camp? I sometimes park in the gravel lot just off the hwy where the Gales Creek TH is to go down 2mi to the campground. I usually climb up Story Burn instead for 15min (about 2miles) to a dead end at the left side of the road a where a TH for sk goes to the left or right of the dead end. I usually take the trail to the left towards the hwy for sweet, fast, buttery smooth sk section for about 2miles to almost the end of the Tillamook historic trail (trail traverses across and underneath hwy 6 on sk), about 1.5 miles before end of Brown's camp loop. Then I climb up the Tillimook trail at the moto lot for the lovely short, cruesome climb for a loop around. Extends the Brown's loop about another 5.5miles, making the ride a 15 mile 1 1/2 loop instead of the usual 8.5mi loop.

    That would be a good way. On storey burn road where you went left, we went right in about the same area. That took us down to gales creek after a couple of miles. Very smooth, not technical at all, but kinda fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Law
    That would be a good way. On storey burn road where you went left, we went right in about the same area. That took us down to gales creek after a couple of miles. Very smooth, not technical at all, but kinda fun.
    Near the end of the trail you descibe here, there is a log bridge you cross a creek on to get back to the campground. If you go straight there instead of crossing the creek this trail follows Gales creek upstream then up a ridge and crosses Bell Camp road in about 6 miles. Then the trail goes down to Reehers horse camp which is just west of the community of Timber. The first portion of this is very fast and fun. It was logged over a year or so ago but the re-route was mostly done the last time I rode it last spring.

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    Thanks Vancbiker,

    I believe the trail you describe is actully what I was origionally asking about back in post #22. All the way back to Reehers horse camp from Gales Creek.

    Do you usually ride that section by itself, as an O&B, starting at Gales Creek? I guess you could make a huge lollypop loop if you started from Reeher's and added Brown's camp then went back... How do you usually ride that section of trail?

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    I've ridden that as an O&B from Gales camp to Bell Camp road and as a loop from the Gales camp to Bells Camp road by logging roads(easier climbing) then back to Gales on the trail. I ridden the Bell Camp to Reehers section as a shuttle run and as a loop from Reehers to Bell Camp on the log road and down on the trail. I've never done the whole thing at once though.

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    Very cool. I was totally thinking about shuttleing it the first time .

    Thanks for the info!

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    WRT slideshow 5/16/06

    If this works right, I'll have embedded a slideshow of pix from the WRT trail on Saturday. If the pix aren't showing up here, you can follow this link to see them:

    http://photoshow.comcast.net/watch/et3Vc7Cq

    Sorry in advance if this post is screwy.


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    Good job! Yo Terry!

    Hi Terry!

    Nice Pics. I hope to ride with you again soon, but my knee is pretending it's old and decrepid. LOL. I'll fool it! (soon, I hope)

    Right now I'm just trying to get back to riding the trainer ... and the weather is *so* nice!

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    Hi All,
    I stumbled across this forum the other day when I was looking at trail reviews. I hoped I could find another trail somewhere in the Tillamook Forest. Most of my riding is done out of Gales Creek campground and Browns Camp/University Falls. I think I know all the combination of trails in that area. Anyway, I headed out to this Wilson River Trail yesterday afternoon. It was nice to have seen the pictures ahead of time so I knew what to expect. I followed the trail as adverstised from Elk Creek Campground over to King Mountain Trailhead back down at Highway 6 and then back on the trail to where I started. I really enjoyed the ride. The weather was not that great yesterday so I did not see any great views. I'm not saying I am a riding machine, but I did the out and back in a little over an hour and that was not enough. I stopped at Gales Creek CG on the way back and did Storey Burn Trail up and back down. I love doing that downhill.

    Leeman,
    Where did you ride on WRT that allowed you to continue on for 10 miles? I did not see anything marked that showed the trail continuing and I thought we could not ride on the hiking trails. Seems like I saw a sign for WRT East, but never saw a marked trail to try and go that direction. I would like to know more about this area. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoterryh
    If this works right, I'll have embedded a slideshow of pix from the WRT trail on Saturday. If the pix aren't showing up here, you can follow this link to see them:

    http://photoshow.comcast.net/watch/et3Vc7Cq

    Sorry in advance if this post is screwy.

    ...
    Wow. This is the first time I've visited this thread on a system with a speaker since you posted this movie. Ouch! Glad I didn't have a speaker at work!

    A personal request: no music in the posts, please. I don't want my web browser making noise at me unless I'm downloading an MP3.

    ... Also, we should ride together again soon. This weekend? (I have a SS now, so I'm even slower!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by avam
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    Leeman,
    Where did you ride on WRT that allowed you to continue on for 10 miles? I did not see anything marked that showed the trail continuing and I thought we could not ride on the hiking trails. Seems like I saw a sign for WRT East, but never saw a marked trail to try and go that direction. I would like to know more about this area. Thanks.
    When you get to the King Mountain area, you need to continue across that used-to-be-dirt-road (now just a wide trail). That area is kind of confusing, but if you just continue straight across the intersection, you should see some orange surveyor's tape on the next part of the trail (or at least it was there when last I rode the trail).

    That actually continues all the way to the Diamond Mill motorcycle area. (Do you have a copy of the current Tillamook State Forest Map? It's not great, but it's the best we have for the area.)

    From Diamond Mill, you can continue SW towards Smith Homestead and the Interpretive Center. From there, you are on what I call WRT West. That continues to "Footbridge". The map incorrectly shows it ending there, but in continues on. I've ridden it maybe 2-3 miles past Footbridge, but I had to turn around (wasn't feeling good that day). I'd like to go back soon and continue until the end of the trail. And I'd love to ride the whole thing one day soon, but that'd best be done as a shuttle, I fear. (I dislike shuttling, but some times there's just too much to do as a loop or out-n-back.)

    I'm thinking of heading back there this weekend -- likely Saturday, since it's supposed to be rainier Sunday. Interested in joining me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeMan
    I'm thinking of heading back there this weekend -- likely Saturday, since it's supposed to be rainier Sunday. Interested in joining me?
    I would definitely like to explore this with you as the guide, but I can not get away until later on Sunday so I may not be able to ride at all this weekend. The next two weekends after that do not look good for me either due to vacation. I think I know the old road area you are talking about. If I do my mid-week ride this week I may head back up there to WRT. I got a GPS this year so it may be time to put it to good use exploring this trail. Thanks for the feedback.

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