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    Who rides Larch/Tarbell Area?

    just shouting out to those who go up there for CC/AM
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    The Cold Creek Mountain Bikers have a fairly active Facebook page you may want to look into.
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    One of my favorite loops in the area.

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    it's closer to my house than running for Stella or Growler and just as much fun...except more snow than Stella...looking @ this Sunday riding for a few hours
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    I need to ride that area this year...
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    Even though the trailhead is only 20-25 minutes from the house, I only ride it 2-3 times a year.

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    Any guesses on how the trail conditions will be tomorrow?

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    Ever since "they" shaved it I have been there once. I miss that descent into Hiden Falls. If you want to go fast and never hit the brakes I highly advise a trip down "Ross" after the "Flinstones " section. I cannot imagine going back myself considering the ridiculous Discover Pass and the great new "views".
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    Quote Originally Posted by xDennisLuix View Post
    Any guesses on how the trail conditions will be tomorrow?
    Lots of stuff down on the trails--small limbs to full-on trees and snow at higher elev
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    Quote Originally Posted by poppa#1 View Post
    . I cannot imagine going back myself considering the ridiculous Discover Pass and the great new "views".
    That's too bad. Between the Tarbell trail head on 1200 Rd and the Cold Creek trail head on 1000 Rd taking in Hidden Falls, some of the decent re-routes, and new veiws make it one of the best rides in SW WA.

    *EDIT* Actually, that would be from the Tarbell Picnic area on the 1100 Rd, not the 1200 Rd, over to the Cold Creek trail head on the 1000 Rd, crossing the 1200 at Grouse Vista (can't keep my 1100s-1000s-1200s straight out there).

    I do avoid the Cold Creek to Tarbell Picnic through Rock Creek Camp part of the loop as it is a favored section of the equestrian types and since it holds a lot of water, it's pretty chewed up most of the year.
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    When I lived in the Camas area 15 or so years ago I rode the section from Larch Mt to the Camp Ground weekly throughout the summer. I think they refer to this as the Cold Creek Trail now, it was a riper then and I'd like to check it out now as I have only ridden out there a few times in the last 5-6 years. It seems like there is a core group of bike people adding to the fun factor out there.

    The Bells Mountain Trail is a pretty fast buff trail. It does have a hell of a climb if starting at Moulton Falls TH.

    Ultimately, Like Poppa said, the Discover Pass will most likely keep me away too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malibu412 View Post
    That's too bad. Between the Tarbell trail head on 1200 Rd and the Cold Creek trail head on 1000 Rd taking in Hidden Falls, some of the decent re-routes, and new veiws make it one of the best rides in SW WA.
    I am open to someone changing my view on this, but I am not paying dnr to park. I do miss it. The last ride with the FTF boys was depressing though. The best view is from Silver Star...btw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malibu412 View Post
    Some of the decent re-routes, and new veiws make it one of the best rides in SW WA.
    Word on that! A lot of thanks to the CCMTB'ers who brought this trail back from the near dead and made it rock This trail keeps on getting a little better and better over time with the added revisions and features. Lots of work put into that, so thanks to all who have contributed (JR and gang).

    The DNR Discover PAss kind of stinks, but DNR are generally pretty supportive of having mtb trails in the state area unlike most of Mult. Co. Just WA trying to make a buck off of logging and recreation at the same time in it's poor state due to no income taxes.

    The only bad is the trail needs to dry out for a bit (like a week or two) after a lot of rain due to lower, flatter sections gets a little sloppy, IMO. I imagine a lot of the trail to still have snow now. As of late Thursday, there was still plenty of old, slushy snow in the Gorge at only about 500ft (4-6").
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    Quote Originally Posted by poppa#1 View Post
    Ever since "they" shaved it I have been there once. I miss that descent into Hiden Falls. If you want to go fast and never hit the brakes I highly advise a trip down "Ross" after the "Flinstones " section. I cannot imagine going back myself considering the ridiculous Discover Pass and the great new "views".
    Yep nothin' worth a damn out there, it's best to go somewhere else.

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    no snow on Tarbell today and bridges are all in working condition
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTSHANK View Post
    no snow on Tarbell today and bridges are all in working condition
    What elevation were you riding at?
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    here is the GPS data
    Activity Profile | Strava
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTSHANK View Post
    here is the GPS data
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    Hmmm, I'm confused. That profile shows a map of Yacolt and lists the elevation at 880'. Tarbell is higher than that at any of the trail heads.

    NM. I opened a Strava account and saw the ride profile. Interesting that, on the north side of Larch where the snow takes longer to melt, the trail was clear.
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    1314 was the start...2150 was the top....the app on the phone isn't correct..new app from what I usually use
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    I'll hit CC whenever I can for a quick ride - been up there a few times and found snow though these days I'm usually in the after work night rides

    For me it's a fun trail though this summer I'm shooting to do the full loop and then some - least that's the plan

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    I love that trail area, some of the more technical riding in the larger metropolitan area. I ditto what Old House Man said on the Bells Mountain trail. The first 1.5-2 miles are a grinding climb, but after that it is a great trail that is hardly ridden. On the bright side they did a lot of work on it last year where motos poach it, unfortunately they are logging sections of it (about 4 miles from Moulton) but already some of the trail has been resotored through the first half of the logging. May take a bit for it to set in, but it is a working forest I guess. What I love though, is if you ride from Moulton, do the entire Tarbell loop and back, it is over 40 miles of awesome singletrack, including the CC descent which I way prefer to Sandy Ridge.

    Has anyone ridden the Bluff Mountain trail from SIlver star? I got out there once and it was pretty amazing.

    It does suck to pay to park, but what is the alternative, no one will allow higher taxes to pay for things like parks and trails, they'd have to log a lot more to make up for the budget difference, which we don't want either, and at least DNR does some good maintenance and is open to more trials. I saw a proposed map as part of the Yacolt master plan and there is a lot more MTB trails planned for that area, so if you do buy a discovery pass, at least you can feel like the money stands a chance to go back to maintaining and maybe increasing trails.

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    Put in enough volunteer hours and DNR will send you a voucher for a Discover Pass, problem solved!

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    The pass is like $35. Really worth losing rides for? Sure, it is a tax but it is what it is....

    The rides up there are awesome but I only go up there in the warmer season due to the mud and snow!

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    no snow currently...plenty of mud through the gully on Tarbell
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    Start Bells Mt trail from Hantwick Road or Moulton Falls and the parking is free. An out and back on Bells is one of my more frequent fall night ride spots.

    I don't buy into the user fee = trail maintenance song and dance. I remember back when the FS started their pass program going on a ride starting at the far east end of Siouxon Creek (the trailhead near the northwest boundary of Trapper Creek wilderness). Pretty new sign at the trailhead proudly informed me that trail maintenance is the reason for the parking pass program. Then proceeded down the trail only to see the same blowdown sections that had been there for 3-4 years. More money was spent designing and printing the signs, getting the posts, and buying new trucks for the rangers to drive around putting up signs and writing tickets than was ever spent on trail maintenance or improvements.

    It's no different with the DNR Discover pass. Who does most of the construction on the Tarbell system? The Boy Scout troop my sons were in put in the connector from the old trail to the new bridge near Rock Creek campground. The horse groups paid for the bridge. Cold Creek MTB group does tons of work. Every work group I have run into up there have been volunteers.

    Sorry for the rant,

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    Believe it or not every little improvement to any part of the system (Parking lots, camp grounds, roads, additional trails,etc) costs a fortune thanks to the numerous studies, surveys, and mounds of paperwork that must be submitted by all envolved. The volunteers that help with trail construction and maintenance are only part of the equation. For instance two of the big bridges on Cold Creek will be replaced this summer; this project will include many ecological surveys and some restoration work, partly because of some sloppy work done by our ancestors. These bridges will be at least partially (if not fully) funded and constructed by DNR. The bridges will be constructed in a sustainable manor and the old material will need to be properly disposed of. Now, whether all of this stuff is warranted may be questionable to many of us, but that's the way it is. I can talk about this 'til I turn blue, but I realize that I may never convince some of you of the value of the Pass. Frankly, in my ideal world you would buy the pass and then never ride there, so that I could have it to myself!

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    I got my pass - worth it for me since I try to get one or two rides up there a month

    Then add some 3CR rides in there as well

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