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    Timberline Bike Park News

    Just got an email today from the Forest service about their decision on the proposed Timerbline Bike park. Here's their assessment:

    USDA Forest Service - Zigzag Ranger District NEPA Projects - Timberline Mountain Bike Trails and Skills Park

    Basically it's good news for the Bike park.

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    Oooohhh... I cant wait to read the comments on the Oregonian article when it comes out!

    And I can't wait for this! I don't need Whistler in my backyard, but a little bit of lift access is pretty nice. I was really sweating to hear their decision (it feels like it took forever...) This is good!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattsavage View Post
    Oooohhh... I cant wait to read the comments on the Oregonian article when it comes out!

    And I can't wait for this! I don't need Whistler in my backyard, but a little bit of lift access is pretty nice. I was really sweating to hear their decision (it feels like it took forever...) This is good!
    Don't forget about the idiots on BikePortland. His intentions are good, but I cringe everytime Maus brings up the mountain bike topic. Three Cheers for this step forward!
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    Sweet! I'm surprised Ski Bowl hasn't done more since they already have a couple trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poppa#1 View Post
    Don't forget about the idiots on BikePortland. His intentions are good, but I cringe everytime Maus brings up the mountain bike topic. Three Cheers for this step forward!
    I stopped visiting BikePortland long ago, but thought I'd check it out due to this. Nothing has changed, crummy articles and crummy comments.

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    Sweet! I'm surprised Ski Bowl hasn't done more since they already have a couple trails.
    I've wondered this too. The terrain at Ski Bowl is much, much more interesting than what is below the lodge at Timberline. Plus there's actually dirt at Ski bowl, most of Mt Hood along with the area around Timberline is just a giant pile of dusty kitty litter. I have to assume Timberline has the money.

    This is good news though, I guess I'll be needing a new bike.
    I only ride bikes to fill the time when I'm not skiing.

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    best news i've heard in a while
    Voice your support for Timberline Bike Park
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    I am so stoked about this. Beyond likely becoming an extremely fun spot, this will grow MTBing here by leaps and bounds. I can't wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoban View Post
    Sweet! I'm surprised Ski Bowl hasn't done more since they already have a couple trails.
    Too broke from paying off the owners legal defense fund and repairing his Porsche Cayenne...
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    They are talking about 2015, but I hope they will use the original plan (pushed back a year) and have a few trails open by the end of summer 2014. I thought the original plan was two full summers of work, and open the next spring.

    KATU article that mentions 2015:
    Mount Hood National Forest will have new bike park | Local & Regional | KATU.com - Portland News, Sports, Traffic Weather and Breaking News - Portland, Oregon

    BTW, I'm happy to be back. Been on my road bike for the last 9 months due to an ACL tear that I had repaired in early August. I'm looking forward to riding on dirt in a few months when the doc gives me the ok. This was just the news to get me excited.

    Already told my wife I'm getting a pass.
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    "I stopped visiting BikePortland long ago, but thought I'd check it out due to this. Nothing has changed, crummy articles and crummy comments." Agreed, but it is the best place to find out about stop sign stings in Ladds. Probably saved me $ and eternal frustration. Who stops at a traffic circle... I have not "maimed" a pedestrian yet. Now I know why my buddy bought a V-10.
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    I visited the ski bowl MTB park a couple summers ago and was sadly disappointed. Hardly any thought put into the trails at all. Just endless switchbacks and not enjoyable.

    They could do SO much better.

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    do you think since there is an appeal that it could banish this whole beautiful thing?

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    Appeal? Go figure.

    Hmm. Well Mt Bachelor has plans for a MTB park as well. My guess is it will be setup much sooner than timberline. Won't be world class I don't think, but it should be decent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grizzlypaugh View Post
    do you think since there is an appeal that it could banish this whole beautiful thing?
    I doubt it. Allowing appeals are just a formality, part of the proces. It'll take a lawsuit and a court order to legally stop it now, from what I understand.

    Speaking of which, I saw this one episode, of Law & Order this one time...
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    I'll be pleasantly surprised if we see this any time in our lifetimes...

    BARK and Friends will pull the money together to legally challenge this to perpetuity. Greenies run the table around PDX. Now, Bachelor, there's a possibility.
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    Had I hit the Powerball on Wednesday, I was going to buy Mt. Hood, all of it... Then I'd put in a zipline from the roof of the historic lodge down to Govie. Divert Still Cr. and put in a luge course sponsored by Red Bull. Monster Energy Ferris Wheel and pony rides in the parking lot. A casino w/ a ladies night and all male revue at the Silcox Hut. A daily evening fireworks show. A paved bike path for e-bikes around the entire mountain. And food carts everywhere!

    Oh, and a mountain bike park...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattsavage View Post
    Had I hit the Powerball on Wednesday, I was going to buy Mt. Hood, all of it... Then I'd put in a zipline from the roof of the historic lodge down to Govie. Divert Still Cr. and put in a luge course sponsored by Red Bull. Monster Energy Ferris Wheel and pony rides in the parking lot. A casino w/ a ladies night and all male revue at the Silcox Hut. A daily evening fireworks show. A paved bike path for e-bikes around the entire mountain. And food carts everywhere!

    Oh, and a mountain bike park...
    While you are at it I have always wanted an AMPM minimart at Timponagas Lake. Just like Sedona...mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Happy Friday!
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    I visited Mt Hood this summer for some sightseeing. This is a few weeks after I visited Mt Rainier.

    Mt Rainier was incredible. Beautiful beyond imagination.

    Hood, however was a brown ugly hill of dirt. Seriously. Not a single picture worth taking. I was parked at Timberline.

    My point is there is nothing that some MTB trails will mess up there now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sketchbook View Post
    I visited Mt Hood this summer for some sightseeing. This is a few weeks after I visited Mt Rainier.

    Mt Rainier was incredible. Beautiful beyond imagination.

    Hood, however was a brown ugly hill of dirt. Seriously. Not a single picture worth taking. I was parked at Timberline.

    My point is there is nothing that some MTB trails will mess up there now...
    Timberline is on the wrong side for vegetation siteseeing. The north side is beautiful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoban View Post
    Timberline is on the wrong side for vegetation siteseeing. The north side is beautiful.
    Fair point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sketchbook View Post
    I visited Mt Hood this summer for some sightseeing. This is a few weeks after I visited Mt Rainier.

    Mt Rainier was incredible. Beautiful beyond imagination.

    Hood, however was a brown ugly hill of dirt. Seriously. Not a single picture worth taking. I was parked at Timberline.

    My point is there is nothing that some MTB trails will mess up there now...
    80 years of heavy human use around Timberline has left it's mark. That is why it is laughable that conservation groups talk about how bike trails will seriously degrade the "pristine" alpine environment. Sadly, they have a large base of gullible deep pocketed donors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vancbiker View Post
    80 years of heavy human use around Timberline has left it's mark. That is why it is laughable that conservation groups talk about how bike trails will seriously degrade the "pristine" alpine environment. Sadly, they have a large base of gullible deep pocketed donors.
    What do you consider "it's mark?" Other than the clearings for ski runs, the lift structures, the lodges, roads and parking lots, the trails, and people sliding down snowy hills, the south side looks as Alpine as it has for 1000s of years. It's not like there have been extinctions of delicate species of flora and/or fauna or significant deforestation due to the human development; that the south side "got ugly" when humans moved in.

    Still Creek drainage, White River drainage and others still empty into salmon/stealhead habitat. These would be affected by human development and use if no remediation and protection took place.

    Is your comment meant to help the progress of a bike park?

    Oh, BTW, you think the south side of Hood is "ugly", you should venture up on the Plains of Abraham or the north side of St Helens. That's a moonscape with the presence of a little water and little vegetation.
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    Jeez Malibu, someone pee in your cheerios? I never said south Hood was ugly. Yes, the items you listed in your first paragraph are what I meant by " mark". I thought it pretty plain that I think the arguments used by BARK and others have little merit.

    I don't expect my post to help nor hinder the potential for a mtb park at Timberline. I do hope that opposion to the park will be defeated.

    BTW. I am very knowledgeable of the St Helens area having ridden pretty much everything on the south and east sides and backpacked the entire Loowit trail and summited three times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malibu412 View Post

    Oh, BTW, you think the south side of Hood is "ugly", you should venture up on the Plains of Abraham or the north side of St Helens. That's a moonscape with the presence of a little water and little vegetation.
    The beauty is on the inside...

    50,000,000 cubic meters of mud will do that, btw...
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