• 12-06-2012
    vizsladog
    are there trails you can ride year round in oregon??
    Just moved to south idaho and im not liking it. no trees,mostly farms and the trail system closest to me is not to my liking.

    so i'm looking for a good place to move to with my wife and small son
  • 12-06-2012
    thorkild
    Lots. It can be tough conditions in the winter, loose and muddy roots and stuff. But l like it. Hood river, bend and Ashland will have the best collection of close year round riding opportunities
  • 12-06-2012
    sketchbook
    I can only chime in for Bend. Bend is an outdoor and MTB mecca. Mostly in the summer but there are trails on the east side of town open pretty much year round, as well as in redmond about 30 minutes north.

    Is there a reason you want to move to Oregon and not somewhere in california or arizona or something?

    Not many work opportunities in Bend is why I ask. I work for myself so doesn't matter where I live really.

    Bend also has a very organized trail alliance COTA.

    It's high desert here, so fairly dry. Lots of pine trees. Used to be a logging town so most trees in teh area are second generation

    Cheers.
  • 12-06-2012
    vizsladog
    The crime looks low climate moderate. Didn't realize jobs were bad there. We moved from florida
  • 12-06-2012
    sketchbook
    Bend is a great place to live. Consistently rated a top 5 place to retire almost every year. Retire being the key point (you don't need a job).

    Main industry here is tourism.

    That said it's pretty and you can buy a home for 50% of the cost it was in 06
  • 12-06-2012
    ImaKlyde
    Yep, the job situation blows...unless you blo...nevermind.

    Really though...jobs are scarce. Lots of Masters degrees walking around in a daze right now. The Eugene area does pretty well for winter riding. We built/maintain roughly 20 miles of trails 25ish minutes out of town and have three or four other trails that are OK in wet due to build, rock content, luck, etc. There's options. It's not summer time epic stuff for the most part, but it's real mountain biking with opportunity to gain/lose elevation.

    Good luck wherever you go.

    Brock...
  • 12-06-2012
    sketchbook
    Hey Brock,

    Met you at the IMBA conference. I need to get over there for some rides!

    vizsladog, whatever you do don't move to Portland. That's where I came from. Not much in terms of MTB rides there unless you drive hours from town.
  • 12-06-2012
    vizsladog
    thanks for the input everyone
  • 12-07-2012
    OregonSS
    Corvallis area is often overlooked, but having lived here for 2 years now, it's pretty great. The MacDonald Forest (owned by Oregon State University) has about 50 miles of singletrack these days, although most isn't on a map. Black Rock is 45 mins away in Falls City, and those trails are built to withstand year-round riding. Job outlook is better here than some other places in the state, with OSU and HP being the big employers (although HP is looking a little weak these days).
  • 12-07-2012
    thorkild
    The only MTB benefit I see for portland is that it is fairly centrally located and the lack of a great close by trail system means you tend to ride a lot of variety. I consistently get 5 plus days of riding in Bend/Sisters, Hood River, St. Helens, Browns Camp/WRT, Tarbell, Sandy Ridge, Oakridge, McKenzie, plus one trip to the Umpqua or someplace else far every year. I like the variety. The downside is that I spend most weekends driving 1-3 hours each way to the trails. Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE to have the easy access that Bend does! But, it does seem that a lot of the Bend folks I know don't get out as much beyond the local trails.
  • 12-07-2012
    sketchbook
    Totally true that since I moved to Bend I don't tend to get out of town as much. It's just too easy to bike here and there are so many trails. I just rode a 30 mile loop South east of town less than 10 miles from my house and it was amazing. First time I had ridden it. It's December!

    The close proximity to trails can't be overlooked. I have friends who live in Portland and come here to visit me and are depressed by what's up and around Portland. Hood river is probably the closest/best option. Many of those others are like 3-4 hours away.

    I've ridden browns camp which was close. Browns camp was kind of a mish mosh of trails. Lots of overgrown vegatation (which happens anywhere in the valley I would guess), and fairly primative. This was probably 4 years ago. I've ridden surveyor ridge near hood. Nice trail.

    Sandy ridge was ok. Didn't like the 3-4 miles of riding up a road before getting on the trail. It's a nice Enduro/sort of downhill place to me. Fairly steep except for the upper sections and lots of switchbacks and butt clinched descents over roots and on the edge of a steep dropoff. Was good, but not the type of ride I'd want to do daily (or even weekly) if you know what i mean.

    Oakridge I still have not been to, but got close this summer. I hear it's spectacular.

    Rode around Waldo lake which was nice. Very close to Oakridge.

    Mckenzie river trail has to be the best ride I have pretty much ever done in Oregon. SO awesome.

    Still need to get to Umpqua...

    One thing to add about Bend is the ease of the trails. They are all mostly moderate. Nothing is THAT steep here. You can get a really good workout but not have to kill yourself. If you want technical there are trails for sure, but you can choose your poison. It's just very nice to get out and ride (like you would a road bike) on trails.
  • 12-07-2012
    poppa#1
    It is absolutely hilarious that so many folks have an issue with that little climb at Sandy. Flat out cracks me up! Thanks for the fun. For the OP... DO NOT MOVE TO PORTLAND FOR THE MOUNTAIN BIKING. I like it here, but the off-road situation is awful.
  • 12-07-2012
    sketchbook
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by poppa#1 View Post
    It is absolutely hilarious that so many folks have an issue with that little climb at Sandy. Flat out cracks me up! Thanks for the fun. For the OP... DO NOT MOVE TO PORTLAND FOR THE MOUNTAIN BIKING. I like it here, but the off-road situation is awful.

    Don't get me wrong. I love to climb. But on trails - not on roads.

    I wouldn't even mind climbing UP sandy ridge trail - but I don't think you are allowed?
  • 12-07-2012
    dirt farmer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sketchbook View Post
    Don't get me wrong. I love to climb. But on trails - not on roads.

    I wouldn't even mind climbing UP sandy ridge trail - but I don't think you are allowed?

    I agree, it sucks having to ride up any road. I long for the day when there is an uphill trail parallel to Lower Whoops, so we can avoid the dusty pit known as road 300.
  • 12-07-2012
    Jaybo
    Unless you are a big city guy who enjoys some gloomy, mucky weather 8 months a year I would avoid the wet side of Oregon. If my wife and I could make a living on the east side we would move in a second. Bend would be sweet!
  • 12-07-2012
    Jaybo
    Oakride is worth the drive
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sketchbook View Post
    Totally true that since I moved to Bend I don't tend to get out of town as much. It's just too easy to bike here and there are so many trails. I just rode a 30 mile loop South east of town less than 10 miles from my house and it was amazing. First time I had ridden it. It's December!

    The close proximity to trails can't be overlooked. I have friends who live in Portland and come here to visit me and are depressed by what's up and around Portland. Hood river is probably the closest/best option. Many of those others are like 3-4 hours away.

    I've ridden browns camp which was close. Browns camp was kind of a mish mosh of trails. Lots of overgrown vegatation (which happens anywhere in the valley I would guess), and fairly primative. This was probably 4 years ago. I've ridden surveyor ridge near hood. Nice trail.

    Sandy ridge was ok. Didn't like the 3-4 miles of riding up a road before getting on the trail. It's a nice Enduro/sort of downhill place to me. Fairly steep except for the upper sections and lots of switchbacks and butt clinched descents over roots and on the edge of a steep dropoff. Was good, but not the type of ride I'd want to do daily (or even weekly) if you know what i mean.

    Oakridge I still have not been to, but got close this summer. I hear it's spectacular.

    Rode around Waldo lake which was nice. Very close to Oakridge.

    Mckenzie river trail has to be the best ride I have pretty much ever done in Oregon. SO awesome.

    Still need to get to Umpqua...

    One thing to add about Bend is the ease of the trails. They are all mostly moderate. Nothing is THAT steep here. You can get a really good workout but not have to kill yourself. If you want technical there are trails for sure, but you can choose your poison. It's just very nice to get out and ride (like you would a road bike) on trails.

    Oakridge is the best riding in the State in my opinion. The town is a total butt crack but the riding is fantastic. Check it out. I live a hour from Sandy Ridge and the new Turntable Microwave Trail is really fun but the road climb is a snooze.
  • 12-07-2012
    poppa#1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sketchbook View Post
    Don't get me wrong. I love to climb. But on trails - not on roads.

    I wouldn't even mind climbing UP sandy ridge trail - but I don't think you are allowed?

    I did not intend to imply a dislike for climbing on your part. I like the road. It's easy...where can you get so much fun for so little effort. Gears, single, big bike... does not matter. A bit over three miles without ever coming around a corner and muttering to yourself, "oh #$*!". You can go hard, easy, or not even pay attention to anything while warming up and preparing for the good times ahead. In regards to an uphill specific trail I believe that the resources are being used in the best way possible. Does anyone out there want to trade Two Turntables or Quid Pro for an uphill specific trail? Plus, unlike a dusty and graded nightmare of a road, this one is paved. Trail is always better, but the system is not big enough at this stage. Part of what I am trying to express is that this road leads to the closest set of trails to my little world. It is a small price to pay for something that I should be able to ride to. Gee, a Jubel can really clear the head, ha.I forgot to mention that the evil road is basically closed to vehicles too.

    Cheers, for real... time for a beverage!
  • 12-07-2012
    sketchbook
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dirt farmer View Post
    I agree, it sucks having to ride up any road. I long for the day when there is an uphill trail parallel to Lower Whoops, so we can avoid the dusty pit known as road 300.

    Agreed!

    As well as a trail on top of swede ridge. I hate that uphill on the gravel road.
  • 12-07-2012
    dirt farmer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sketchbook View Post
    Agreed!

    As well as a trail on top of swede ridge. I hate that uphill on the gravel road.

    Jeez, I only ride that long, gravel road but maybe once a year.

    It's better to ride up to Swede Ridge via Upper Whoops ---> Sector 16 :thumbsup:
  • 12-07-2012
    sketchbook
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dirt farmer View Post
    Jeez, I only ride that long, gravel road but maybe once a year.

    It's better to ride up to Swede Ridge via Upper Whoops ---> Sector 16 :thumbsup:

    Ha.

    I probably ride up this trail 10 times in the summer. It tends to be one of the Deschutes Dirt Riders favorite rides.

    I've gone up whoops, sector 16 twice I think. :)
  • 12-07-2012
    sketchbook
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by poppa#1 View Post
    I did not intend to imply a dislike for climbing on your part.
    Cheers, for real... time for a beverage!

    No worries. I know what you are saying. It is nice that it's paved. Got a lot of talking in on that ride up.
  • 12-08-2012
    wfo922
    2nd that!
  • 12-08-2012
    sjstumbo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dirt farmer View Post
    I agree, it sucks having to ride up any road. I long for the day when there is an uphill trail parallel to Lower Whoops, so we can avoid the dusty pit known as road 300.

    Amen! I'm the guy wearing spandex on the racy hard tail and I can't stand that dirt...can't imagine shimmying into some baggies and armor on a forty pound rig and lapping Whoops. Let's push for something more interesting to take our minds off the up!

    On another note, to answer the original thread question. I would fully advocate Bend as a year-round mountain-bike area. I always look forward to winter when I can ride Horse Ridge and Swamp Wells. Southern Oregon is another great place to ride. Ashland is good, but there are other places as well that can be ridden year-round in Southern Oregon. As far as jobs are concerned, we don't live in these places to work! Unless you work for yourself, you'll probably have to make some sacrifices to make it happen.

    Good Luck and I hope everything works out for you!
  • 12-08-2012
    Dry Side
    Bend is a fantastic place to live if one is self employed and not dependent on the local economy.
  • 12-09-2012
    Jaybo
    Oregon has one Fortune 500 company and Bend has zero. If you are a nurse or a physical therapist you might find work.
  • 12-09-2012
    LeeMan
    ********
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jaybo View Post
    Oregon has one Fortune 500 company and Bend has zero. If you are a nurse or a physical therapist you might find work.

    There actually seem to be two Fortune 500 companies based in the Portland area, a few more in Seattle, and one near Boise: Fortune 500 2012: States: Oregon Companies - FORTUNE on CNNMoney.com

    But there are many more than have a presence here, such as (in the High-Tech Industry) Intel, HP, Dell, Oracle. And there a Butt-Load (tm) of jobs at smaller companies -- there must be, or nobody would have a job in Oregon. Are there a bunch of jobs in Bend? No, of course not. Or it would be even more crowded if there were!
  • 12-09-2012
    Vancbiker
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LeeMan View Post
    There actually seem to be two Fortune 500 companies based in the Portland area,

    One of those companies has a division in Redmond. Not sure how to tie this to the OPs question though.
  • 12-09-2012
    Jaybo
    Only two?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LeeMan View Post
    There actually seem to be two Fortune 500 companies based in the Portland area, a few more in Seattle, and one near Boise: Fortune 500 2012: States: Oregon Companies - FORTUNE on CNNMoney.com

    But there are many more than have a presence here, such as (in the High-Tech Industry) Intel, HP, Dell, Oracle. And there a Butt-Load (tm) of jobs at smaller companies -- there must be, or nobody would have a job in Oregon. Are there a bunch of jobs in Bend? No, of course not. Or it would be even more crowded if there were!

    California has 53! My point was good jobs are hard to come by in Oregon---and in Bend terribly hard. No connection to the thread as I was responding to another post.

    Three Corner Rock is the best winter ride as far as good trails conditions. Also, Trail 400 holds up well. Syncline does okay also but last time I was there it was muddy. The second gate at Scappy was good but closed. I can't think of another ride that has good trail conditions in the local area in the winter.
  • 12-10-2012
    sketchbook
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jaybo View Post
    California has 53! My point was good jobs are hard to come by in Oregon---and in Bend terribly hard. No connection to the thread as I was responding to another post.

    Three Corner Rock is the best winter ride as far as good trails conditions. Also, Trail 400 holds up well. Syncline does okay also but last time I was there it was muddy. The second gate at Scappy was good but closed. I can't think of another ride that has good trail conditions in the local area in the winter.

    Hmm. I wouldn't agree that jobs are hard to come by in Oregon. Bend, yes. Depending on what your skill/trade/profession is.
  • 12-10-2012
    evdog
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by thorkild View Post
    Lots. It can be tough conditions in the winter, loose and muddy roots and stuff. But l like it. Hood river, bend and Ashland will have the best collection of close year round riding opportunities

    What would you suggest for year round riding in Ashland? I have only done the super-D and some of the various lower options. Any other good long descents that can be done in winter? I will be passing thru early next week and hoping to get in a ride before hitting up Caldera!
  • 12-11-2012
    LeeMan
    Really?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jaybo View Post
    Unless you are a big city guy who enjoys some gloomy, mucky weather 8 months a year I would avoid the wet side of Oregon. If my wife and I could make a living on the east side we would move in a second. Bend would be sweet!

    Do you ever miss a chance to bad-mouth Oregon? I bet you can be a really nice guy, but you sure whine a lot.

    I would say that, at best, you exaggerate. I live in the country, not the big city, and it's only rainy any gloomy for most of 6 months, not 8. :) I love it here. I have lived in Colorado, and I prefer it here (though I miss my friends!).

    And the bad weather doesn't stop most of us from riding. I had a great ride with half a dozen friends in the rain last weekend, and we all loved it.

    <teasing>
    I say we collect donations from everybody that wants to help you move to someplace else. I'd pitch in a few dollars.
    </teasing>
  • 12-11-2012
    Glide the Clyde
    Actually Lee, Jaybo loves OR. Loves it! He runs it down so it won't look so inviting to outsiders and get all crowded. It's all a ruse.
  • 12-11-2012
    Jaybo
    Nice
    I was not bad mouthing Oregon but making a good living in Bend is tough! I HATE the climate of the west side of the mountains. I rode in the rain last weekend and froze to the bone with horribly muddy trails I also hate driving an hour to ride..I had a job in Klickitat County and should have had my wife join me up there.... A bad decision for me. Hood River is one part of Oregon I really love.

    I think guys take this board way too serious. It is just biking! I was blown away a while back when a guy took a horrible shot at my family on here. .
  • 12-12-2012
    Vancbiker
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jaybo View Post
    I HATE the climate of the west side of the mountains.

    I am with you on this!

    I've lived in the PDX metro area for 50 years. Dislike it more and more each winter. Now, owning properties, kids, grandkid all in the area probably has me locked here. Oh well, makes one appreciate a mid winter trip to the south. Phoenix in Jan-Feb or Sedona in Mar-Apr, is a treat every northwestern mt biker should experience.
  • 12-12-2012
    Sparticus
    Hi everybody!
  • 12-12-2012
    poppa#1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sparticus View Post
    Hi everybody!

    Super nice to hear from you. Three cheers from Portland!
  • 12-12-2012
    JMW503
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jaybo View Post
    I think guys take this board way too serious. It is just biking! I was blown away a while back when a guy took a horrible shot at my family on here. .

    Agreed. So Jaybo hates the weather and the drive to trails - so what? It's his opinion so I respect it.
    Personally, the weather and drive time from Portland to trails doesn't bother me in the slightest. Portland is an uber cool city and there are great trails with a variety of terrain and features within 2 hours drive in both WA and OR, with Bend only 3 hours a way. Regardless, I feel lucky to have the kind of trail access we have in OR, especially when considering what most folks in the rest of the country are stuck with.

    Back to vizsladog - a couple of points for you to consider:

    1. Idaho is a pretty diverse state with incredible mountain biking. You really should explore and research it before making a move to another state.

    2. If you still are considering OR and MTB'ing is the priority, then I recommend you do a road trip North/South and sample the trails. Are you a trail, XC, AM, DH rider? Makes a difference on what region you may choose so trying them out first will help. That and you can experience the different soil types as they are vastly different throughout the state.
  • 12-12-2012
    LeeMan
    Jaybo ...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jaybo View Post
    I was not bad mouthing Oregon but making a good living in Bend is tough! I HATE the climate of the west side of the mountains. I rode in the rain last weekend and froze to the bone with horribly muddy trails I also hate driving an hour to ride..I had a job in Klickitat County and should have had my wife join me up there.... A bad decision for me. Hood River is one part of Oregon I really love.

    I think guys take this board way too serious. It is just biking! I was blown away a while back when a guy took a horrible shot at my family on here. .

    Honestly, I'm sure you don't think you are negative, but that is how it comes across.

    We all know it rains a ridiculous amount here. We all know we need more trails. We all know the best places to bike don't have many jobs (or we'd be living there).

    But when you focus on the negative, you bring more of it to you, my friend.

    In short, if you can't fix it, then shutting up about it might be the best approach.

    Okay, enough talk! I need to go ride something resembling a bicycle!
  • 12-12-2012
    jgusta
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Vancbiker View Post
    I am with you on this!

    I've lived in the PDX metro area for 50 years. Dislike it more and more each winter. Now, owning properties, kids, grandkid all in the area probably has me locked here. Oh well, makes one appreciate a mid winter trip to the south. Phoenix in Jan-Feb or Sedona in Mar-Apr, is a treat every northwestern mt biker should experience.

    Ditto this. Annual winter/spring mtb desert trips are a god send with living here. With that said, I am still able to ride year-round here on mudless terrain most of the time by hitting the trails during brief weather breaks at the right locations. My ride last Sunday was excellent for 3hrs of all trail time in the eastern Gorge and night ride on Monday night that's just about 20 minutes from home in NE PDX wasn't bad at all as well. Riding with coyotes on the trails at night while howling at the moon afterwork and back at home to tuck the kids in is about the best I can asked for during the week.
  • 12-12-2012
    sketchbook
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JMW503 View Post
    Agreed. So Jaybo hates the weather and the drive to trails - so what? It's his opinion so I respect it.
    Personally, the weather and drive time from Portland to trails doesn't bother me in the slightest. Portland is an uber cool city and there are great trails with a variety of terrain and features within 2 hours drive in both WA and OR, with Bend only 3 hours a way. Regardless, I feel lucky to have the kind of trail access we have in OR, especially when considering what most folks in the rest of the country are stuck with.

    Back to vizsladog - a couple of points for you to consider:

    1. Idaho is a pretty diverse state with incredible mountain biking. You really should explore and research it before making yet move to another state.

    2. If you still are considering OR and MTB'ing is the priority, then I recommend you do a road trip North/South and sample the trails. Are you a trail, XC, AM, DH rider? Makes a difference on what region you may choose so trying them out first will help. That and you can experience the different soil types as they are vastly different throughout the state.

    #2 here is a good question. Don't come to Bend for serious Downhill or Freeride type stuff. May happen soon once Skyline forest is opened up for non-forest service trail work, but for now Bend is Mostly XC oriented.
  • 12-12-2012
    Jaybo
    Okay
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LeeMan View Post
    Honestly, I'm sure you don't think you are negative, but that is how it comes across.

    We all know it rains a ridiculous amount here. We all know we need more trails. We all know the best places to bike don't have many jobs (or we'd be living there).

    But when you focus on the negative, you bring more of it to you, my friend.

    In short, if you can't fix it, then shutting up about it might be the best approach.

    Okay, enough talk! I need to go ride something resembling a bicycle!

    I hear you but I don't agree. I smile until my face hurts when I go to the SW and enjoy some sweet, sunny singletrack in the SW. I think about my best HR rides and they always include summer rides in the heat. I dig it! This string went sideways because I said Bend has poor job opportunities. It does! I find driving exhausting as I sit in traffic in Gresham and Sandy to get to Sandy Ridge. I have run into plenty of Bendites and others who told me they would stick a knife into their skull if they had to deal with Portland's endless gray skies.

    The good news is I'm blessed with a good job, great wife & parents, and good health. I am grateful for such blessings. I'm happy most days but I would like to ride my mountain bike nearly daily. I like Ponderosa trees, sagebrush, cactus, palms, and other sunnyside stuff. I never want to leave Utah every time I go...I just dig it. I'm getting older and may be getting thinner skin :)

    We are saving money like crazy and eventually will move to a place with close singletrack and drier weather...that is our 'shut up....'
  • 12-12-2012
    LeeMan
    You again?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sparticus View Post
    Hi everybody!

    Thread crasher! Long (winter) time no see!
  • 12-13-2012
    Sparticus
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LeeMan View Post
    Thread crasher! Long (winter) time no see!

    Just trying to balance the whining & negativity with a little PMA. I know it's a losing battle but whatever. Let's go riding!
  • 12-13-2012
    DJ Giggity
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sparticus View Post
    Just trying to balance the whining & negativity with a little PMA.

    There is no stopping a full scale nerd war.
  • 12-13-2012
    LeeMan
    Yes!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sparticus View Post
    Just trying to balance the whining & negativity with a little PMA. I know it's a losing battle but whatever. Let's go riding!

    Just trying to help our friend have a better attitude. ;-)

    I seem to remember a quest of yours along similar lines in times past.

    Riding: good idea!
  • 12-13-2012
    ttrd
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jaybo View Post
    I hear you but I don't agree. I smile until my face hurts when I go to the SW and enjoy some sweet, sunny singletrack in the SW. I think about my best HR rides and they always include summer rides in the heat. I dig it! This string went sideways because I said Bend has poor job opportunities. It does! I find driving exhausting as I sit in traffic in Gresham and Sandy to get to Sandy Ridge. I have run into plenty of Bendites and others who told me they would stick a knife into their skull if they had to deal with Portland's endless gray skies.

    The good news is I'm blessed with a good job, great wife & parents, and good health. I am grateful for such blessings. I'm happy most days but I would like to ride my mountain bike nearly daily. I like Ponderosa trees, sagebrush, cactus, palms, and other sunnyside stuff. I never want to leave Utah every time I go...I just dig it. I'm getting older and may be getting thinner skin :)

    We are saving money like crazy and eventually will move to a place with close singletrack and drier weather...that is our 'shut up....'


    I could not agree more with you Jaybo, I live in HR, only drive a 15 minutes to ride in winter (60 minutes each way in Summer as I live in a farther proximity then) and I get to ride 4-5 days a week..... and 90% of the time in the winter its cold, gray, dark at early hours, rainy and a freezer like east wind. The dark grey get to you something fierce. I grew up in Bend and I highly value the power of vitamin D, I would be there in a heartbeat if I could as well.

    Alas, I keep living in the rainy, grey and less than great mtb town due to work as well. I love Oregon no matter what, but the grass is always greener on the other side...... and then better somewhere else. And the cycle goes on and on. I really try to focus on what I have and living/loving the present instead of the "what ifs". A rainy/muddy ride is always better than no ride.
  • 12-14-2012
    wheiberg
    I was bumming pretty hard on the distance to good trail and the long winters in P-town and decided see if I could do something about it. At the risk of posting a shameless plug, we now have an indoor riding area in town where you can work on skills in an awesome environment and then enjoy one of our many craft beers on tap in the pub. Check out our webpage - Lumberyard Bike Park

    cheers,
    Will
  • 12-14-2012
    jgusta
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ttrd View Post
    Alas, I keep living in the rainy, grey and less than great mtb town due to work as well. I love Oregon no matter what, but the grass is always greener on the other side...... and then better somewhere else. And the cycle goes on and on. I really try to focus on what I have and living/loving the present instead of the "what ifs". A rainy/muddy ride is always better than no ride.

    Word to this as sunny desert trails will always be preferred to this climate come winter time here. But, at least you can still ride to some degree most the year here, whereas it's pretty much no dice in higher and more northern climates of the country during the bulk of winter. Had a great ride at Sandy yesterday and heading out for another good ride today!
  • 12-14-2012
    pedalitup
    Austin in the winter, Ashland in the summer. Problem solved.
  • 12-15-2012
    Jaybo
    I used to live in Dallas, Texas. I would love to visit and check that town out. Sounds pretty interesting.

    Ashland is freaking awesome! I rode some butt kicking climb from the main road past the college. What a climb up one of the steepest climb I have done and then down into Lithia Park. The descent into Lithia was a blast. That would be a great training loop for the race season.