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    Syncline/ Catherine Creek/ Coyote Wall Meeting March 2nd (Updated)

    Speaking of Syncline, here's the latest on the Forest Service's plan to manage this area (source is CAMBA, link is to a re-post on the Northwest Trail Alliance website).

    http://nw-trail.org/node/1981

    Start: 03/02/2010 - 6:00pm
    End: 03/02/2010 - 8:00pm

    From CAMBA:

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    "Sorry for the late notice, but I just found out myself. The US Forest Service has scheduled the following meeting:

    When: Tuesday, March 2nd at 6PM
    Where: Hood River Inn, "Gorge Room" (the one in the parking lot)
    Why: To discuss the latest proposals for the management of the area we call the Syncline and Catherine Creek

    History: This discussion has been formally going on since 2007. After numerous sessions the Forest Service issued a proposed "EA" for the area which was met with threats of lawsuits from Friends of the Gorge and others. The Forest Service withdrew their proposal, and now has prepared a new alternative which they would like to put in a new EA. That's what we'll be discussing at the meeting.

    The EA makes specific proposals about where mountain bikes will be allowed, and involves significant trail closures and alterations. It also discusses where dogs will be allowed off leash. It's important that mountain bikers attend this session to get in your comments. There will be a written comment period after the meeting, but comments at the meeting have a chance of getting into the proposed EA before it gets drafted.

    Most of the controversy in the recent discussions has focused on horse presence (actually horse manure presence) in the "thin soil" biology of the low elevations at Catherine Creek. The new alternative for this area will propose horse limitations (115/ year) and seasonal closures. This area will be recommended for closure to mountain bikes.

    FYI, I've made two comments on the new proposal:
    1) I'm concerned that limiting horse use at Catherine Creek will displace it up Atwood Road and onto some of the other trails in the western part of the area which are not going to handle horse traffic very well.
    2) Allowing off trail use by hikers will encourage side trails to develop beyond the official trail network, and complicate our efforts to keep mountain bikers on trail.

    Hope to see you at the meeting.

    --Arthur"
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    Last edited by toowacky; 03-10-2010 at 08:28 PM.

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    Update

    Here are some notes from the March 2nd meeting, where the "revised Alternative 2" was unveiled after the initial decision in favor of the original "Alternative 2" from the Forest Service was appealed:

    Drew Betts' notes from the Syncline meeting 20100302 (NWTA)

    Quick snippets:

    Q: Would the Coyote Trail be removed? (It's the green trail between courtney and atwood rd)
    A: The majority of the trail is on private land. Our policy is not to encourage trespass on private land so it was removed.
    Yes, Coyote is lost in this decision, due to the issues with private land parcels.

    Q: Will pedestrians be allowed off trail in the area?
    A: We are still allowing for self-discovery for pedestrians.
    Map of Revised Alternative 2 (pdf)



    3 wks of public comment from March 2nd:

    Comment on the Revised Alternative 2 via email or mail.

    Email:
    comments-pacificnorthwest-columbia-r...-nsa@fs.fed.us

    Mail:
    CRGNSA
    902 Wasco Ave. Suite 200
    Hood River, OR 97031

    The following fields should probably all be filled in:

    Name:
    Organization/Affiliation:
    Address:
    Telephone Number:
    Email Address:
    Comments:

    The comment period is open until the new Environmental Assessment (EA) is released, but comments in the next three weeks will be given more serious consideration.
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    Nice euphemism....

    "self discovery" for off-trail hiking...
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    Thanks for the update Tom!

    Looks the "Alt 2 revision" plan removes all of Coyote trail west of the wall and all of Shoestring trail on the east. That is lame, those darn hikers just get it all in gorge. I'm for giving them all of Catherine Creek area for hiking only, and shared use for everything else. Too bad that is not a plan on the table though.
    Ride On!

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    Quote Originally Posted by free-agent
    "self discovery" for off-trail hiking...
    Didn't you run into a guy on the trail that was doing that?
    Only two infinite things exist: the universe and stupidity. And, I am unsure of the universe
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    Luckily, it was on the road...

    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Giggity
    Didn't you run into a guy on the trail that was doing that?
    So I could get away much faster!
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    Yep

    You lose all that trail and all of a sudden Hood River and the area is much less attractive a mountain biking area in the winter. This could mean less PDXers driving east up the Columbia River to recreate. This means less business for multiple business in the area. There is a cascading impact that some of these goofballs seem to not care about it.
    Last edited by Jaybo; 03-11-2010 at 10:26 PM.

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