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    Sandy Ridge Trail

    Has anyone ridden here lately?

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    Rode it on sunday in the pouring rain. Trail was still sweet though.

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    Thinking about riding it tomorrow. Any info on a map?

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    The BLM's link to the system is below. It's a much nicer parking option to park at the regular parking lot with the bathrooms rather than the locked gate as described on the map. You can ride up the road the short ways to the locked gate turn off or there is a way to get there through the woods, but its not perfect.

    Once on the locked gate road, the main trail is fairly obvious on the left. You can also ride the paved locked gate road to the top and take the single track down.

    http://www.blm.gov/or/resources/recr...ilbrochure.pdf

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    How is the other trail build coming along? Any work parties scheduled?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattsavage
    How is the other trail build coming along? Any work parties scheduled?
    I'm definitely not in the loop, but, I think most of the work has been outsourced to contractors. I only know of one work party that was scheduled out there late last year for the public.
    I only ride bikes to fill the time when I'm not skiing.

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    Pretty hammered

    The trails are already getting hammered! Nice trails though.

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    Next public work party is on April 24th from what I heard. The trails were all built by IMBA trail reps and BLM workers with exception of just one public work party day. I was at the work party in mid November and we worked on a brief section of Communication Breakdown (the 8-mile loop trail up top). We just cut and refined a little trail section with cool rock drop that can allow for about 5' feet of vert when hit it with a little speed and land out on steep tranny. Pretty cool, I rode it a couple times since being built, including last weekend. And there is a ride around for those not wanting to launch it. The bit of trails up there are a Godsend to have, but are showing some wear and needs a bit of love from all the riding done up there in past few months, especially with this warm winter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgusta
    Next public work party is on April 24th from what I heard. The trails were all built by IMBA trail reps and BLM workers with exception of just one public work party day. I was at the work party in mid October and we worked on a brief section of Communication Breakdown (the 8-mile loop trail up top). We just cut and refined a little trail section with cool rock drop that can allow for about 5' feet of vert when hit it with a little speed and land out on steep tranny. Pretty cool, I rode it a couple times since being built, including last weekend. And there is a ride around for those not wanting to launch it. The bit of trails up there are a Godsend to have, but are showing some wear and needs a bit of love from all the riding done up there in past few months, especially with this warm winter.

    What trail system contains this rock drop you speak of? Sounds cool
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    answered my own ? thanks
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    ride it

    This trail is sick, conditions this weekend could not have been better. Awesome flow. I wish there were more trail systems like this around here.

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    is it recommended to climb the road or climb the single track?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattsavage
    is it recommended to climb the road or climb the single track?
    From what I understand, this trail was designed to be downhill specific. I do not know if it will be labelled as a one way trail or not. There is no signage yet. As for myself, I'd rather climb the road regardless.

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    No rec.

    Quote Originally Posted by mattsavage
    is it recommended to climb the road or climb the single track?
    People do both. Great trail and the conditions are perfect right now!
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    On a weekday w/ few people around, climbing the singletrack is definitely doable and nicely challenging. However, if last saturday is any indication of how many people are going to be riding these trails (I saw a group of 10 w/ another group of 10 right behind), all weekend riders should definitely take the road. The upper section is faster, but a little safer for running into people. The lower section is really fun, but you could get into a major head on with an uphill rider in some of the blind corners. just my $.02

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    Quote Originally Posted by thorkild
    On a weekday w/ few people around, climbing the singletrack is definitely doable and nicely challenging. However, if last saturday is any indication of how many people are going to be riding these trails (I saw a group of 10 w/ another group of 10 right behind), all weekend riders should definitely take the road. The upper section is faster, but a little safer for running into people. The lower section is really fun, but you could get into a major head on with an uphill rider in some of the blind corners. just my $.02
    Amen to that.

    Anybody know if this open to hikers and equestrians? Or just bikes?
    I only ride bikes to fill the time when I'm not skiing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan
    Anybody know if this open to hikers and equestrians? Or just bikes?
    Hikers=Yes

    Equestrian=No

    Quote Originally Posted by MattSavage
    Is it recommended to climb the road or climb the single track?
    I'd recommend the road climb, echoing some of the comments about traffic.

    Build days: Northwest Trail Alliance will be coordinating some public maintenance/build days w/ the BLM. One that is scheduled currently is for 4/24. However, IMBA (along with other contractors) have been building the bulk of the trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ride_nw
    This trail is sick, conditions this weekend could not have been better. Awesome flow. I wish there were more trail systems like this around here.
    There is. Stop in at Momentum in Sandy the next time you're headed up there and ask around. They'll steer you right.
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    So this trail is pretty sweet to ride. I hear there are other new trails in the Sandy area, like Marmot. Just wonder where to find out more information regrading where these trails are, what type, etc...

    Thanks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by tymelero
    So this trail is pretty sweet to ride. I hear there are other new trails in the Sandy area, like Marmot. Just wonder where to find out more information regrading where these trails are, what type, etc...

    Thanks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcewan13
    There is. Stop in at Momentum in Sandy the next time you're headed up there and ask around. They'll steer you right.
    Are they still in business? I drove by a week ago on my way to meadows and it looked like they were shut down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudlover71
    Are they still in business? I drove by a week ago on my way to meadows and it looked like they were shut down.
    They moved about 2 blocks away on the north side of hwy 26 in town that heads west from Mt. Hood next to the Chevron gas station. Don't know the street name, but shop is visible if you look for it and I believe they are open from Tue-Sun. Swing by it's a cool, small, LBS that will have the necessities you need if have to repair or replace something on the fly and Carey (the owner) will hook you up with local trail beta and may entice you to do a local trail night ride on Thursdays at 7pm from the shop all year round. Mostly DH only riders there, but Carey does it all and has the scoop on all the trails around and tons of bike knowledge and can get/order just about anything you need/want.
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    Went there for the first time today and had a great time. From SE Portland it only takes me about 45 min to get there, which is just a tad longer then it takes me to get to Powell butte and I don't have to drive through traffic and the trail is a billion time better.
    I did Hide and seek twice, and biked a little ways into the communication breakdown to check it out before realizing it needs more work and turned around, when is the next work party? Went through the free ride area which is nice. Overall the place is great. Seams like hide and seek was made to keep speeds down with the tight berms which is cool, but one thing I didn't quite like is that a lot of the pump bumps want to be jumped, yet the next bump is just out of reach for a smooth landing, it would be nice to move a few of the bumps closer to each other for jumping, or maybe I just need to go faster... Also could it be possible to have a trail branch off of hide and seek and meet up with the free ride trail by the power lines?
    Good job to everyone that did the trails!

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    Did just that and got the goods. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmeldrum26
    Has anyone ridden here lately?
    rode it yesterday. there is a trail work party some time in april, not sure on exact date. with all the bikers hitting the trail there should be a good turn out for it. cant wait till they complete the upper trail section, should add about 10 more mi.

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    Sandy Ridge vid hit the net today.
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    My buddy Jason has a pretty cool write-up about it here.
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    here's another one from the - non-IMBA/BLM sanctioned, but still good fun - .
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    So, How come the local bike community isn't being asked to do more and the BLM is relying mostly on contractors to build the Sandy Ridge Trails? With the amount of interest in this trail we could easily whip this out in no time.

    Also, I have never heard of the Marmot Dam trails that Uncle Cliffy referred too in his link.
    I only ride bikes to fill the time when I'm not skiing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcewan13
    here's another one from the - non-IMBA/BLM sanctioned, but still good fun - .
    Hmm, I wonder who that "flailer" is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan
    So, How come the local bike community isn't being asked to do more and the BLM is relying mostly on contractors to build the Sandy Ridge Trails? With the amount of interest in this trail we could easily whip this out in no time.

    Also, I have never heard of the Marmot Dam trails that Uncle Cliffy referred too in his link.
    There is a work party on April 23rd....deets here:

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    Hmm

    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan
    So, How come the local bike community isn't being asked to do more and the BLM is relying mostly on contractors to build the Sandy Ridge Trails? With the amount of interest in this trail we could easily whip this out in no time.

    Also, I have never heard of the Marmot Dam trails that Uncle Cliffy referred too in his link.
    We have tax dollars paying for this effort?

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    Quote Originally Posted by caravan2001
    There is a work party on April 23rd....deets here:

    http://nw-trail.org/trailfest
    Thanks, I did see that. This will only be the second work party on the Sandy Ridge Trails open to the public. Seems like there should be at least one work party a month up there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaybo
    We have tax dollars paying for this effort?
    Yup! That is what I learned yesterday...from someone that knows their NWTA stuff. Same is going on with Ranger Jim in the Mt. Hood National Forest. He's got resources, $$ and apparently building trails.

    You can thank the stimulus for it. Shovel ready projects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaybo
    We have tax dollars paying for this effort?
    Dude, it's way too early for a question like that. Too bad you can't help us pay for it cause you live in WA. A great utilization of resources, IMO. Something we should have for a long time to enjoy
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan
    Thanks, I did see that. This will only be the second work party on the Sandy Ridge Trails open to the public. Seems like there should be at least one work party a month up there.
    Hey OHM and others,

    Stay tuned, there may very well be more NWTA/BLM trail build days in the near future.

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    Some ass.....

    Quote Originally Posted by jgusta
    Hmm, I wonder who that "flailer" is?
    who prefers to ride alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by free-agent
    who prefers to ride alone.
    Sheash, all the time you "bail" on your boys, I am surprised you don't ride solo more often as well.

    More than three people on the trail for me is a crowd, what can I say.
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    More than 3...

    Quote Originally Posted by jgusta
    Sheash, all the time you "bail" on your boys, I am surprised you don't ride solo more often as well.

    More than three people on the trail for me is a crowd, what can I say.
    these days for me would qualify as a Mtb Festival! Don't believe the bail hype.
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    While the stimulus may very well be stimulating, I know Zac's been working on Sandy Ridge for 6-7 years.

    I accredit much of the positive, happenings that I'm hearing about around the country to 2nd & 3rd gen mtb folk -like many of us on this board- coming up the ranks into positions of power in their respective arenas. Think about it, in a couple more generations, we'll have senators who rip DH stunt courses on the weekends. Unfortuneatley, the Portland Parks Dept will likely still be stuck in the dark ages.
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    Not really a loaded question

    Quote Originally Posted by chick n da woods
    Yup! That is what I learned yesterday...from someone that knows their NWTA stuff. Same is going on with Ranger Jim in the Mt. Hood National Forest. He's got resources, $$ and apparently building trails.

    You can thank the stimulus for it. Shovel ready projects.
    We pay for hiking trails with tax dollars. I would throw some cash into the effort to get trals up and running....as we seem to lose more and more each year. Some might make the argument that biking trails save us money because fat arsed American's get out and move reducing the cost of healthcare--except the fat arsed shuttlers Just kidding. By the way, Hide and Seek is a great trail and a welcomed addition to the local scene. The dog and I will be up there tomorrow am having fun. My Golden got ticks at Sycline so we are avoiding that place for while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by free-agent
    these days for me would qualify as a Mtb Festival! Don't believe the bail hype.
    Sounds exhausting. You are a better man than me, or more social at least.
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    So I'm going to make an education guess and say the trails system will be busy this weekend...
    I have yet to ride here so I think I'll venture up tomorrow and check it out.Its nice to see nice trails systems being developed closer to metropolitan areas to allow for faster access when full day rides aren't possible.

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    Heck

    Quote Originally Posted by jgusta
    Sounds exhausting. You are a better man than me, or more social at least.
    A nice White Salmon area ride today with my dog. Perfect day on some good dirt. She does out climb me though....

    Riding this weekend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaybo
    A nice White Salmon area ride today with my dog. Perfect day on some good dirt. She does out climb me though....

    Riding this weekend?
    "Isn't that special" (in a Church Lady voice). And this has to do about Sandy Ridge how? I like frogs, but doesn't mean I have to tell the world about it.

    Trying to stick with doc's orders of no physical activity for at least a week, but may break it a bit just to get out for my own sanity's sake. But, probably will pay for it as I had to leave work early today due to hacking on all my patients from doing a walk yesterday. How's that for "TMI" (Too Much Info)..........now back to the previous station.
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    Okay

    I will remember that. You probably should ride alone...and avoid humans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaybo
    I will remember that. You probably should ride alone...and avoid humans.
    Nice edit Bo'. I am sorry my "off the cuff", low-fi clips bore you so. Just be sure not to make any cause it would send others straight into a coma .

    And look who is talking about avoiding humans I am surprised you don't only exclussively ride with the four-legged creatures, cause then you could ride your 9'er on XC trails til the cows came home

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    Sandy Ridge trails

    Just got back from ride at Sandy Ridge before some rain came in and trails were great today even with probably a ton of traffic on the trails as of late with good weather and all. About 7-10 cars in lot when I showed at 2pm and no one in lot when leaving at 5pm and saw no-one on the trails at all this afternoon. Felt like I had the place to myself even though many others were probably out earlier that day. I was also pretty impressed with some of the trail revisions they have done, especially to the lower half of Hide and Seek with re-routing some sections to avoid the sloppy spots, adding more burms and some more mini-pump doubles, even though there is a bit much in the very last section. Should be pretty fun when trails are bone dry though, come summer and you can carry enough speed to float through them. Also stoked on the extra work the locals have done to the Jump Line with toning down the big double off of road to a table instead, revising the ladder drop and lipping up some jumps down "Little Monkey" with some new lines and the new signage. "TNT" and "Little Monkey", I love it.

    I think this is the best AM/trail network going around Portland/NW area right now. Although, still somewhat in its infancy, the trails keep getting a little better and better despite the tremondous amount of use it has been seeing. Hats off and a beer, bowl, or whatever their pleasure to Jason (IMBA) for designing and building most of Hide & Seek and the locals for the other stuff. You guys rule!

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    Rode out there a couple of weeks ago from the parking lot up the trail to the top and then back down. I did not see the doubles or where ladder drop was. Can you tell me where those are?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tymelero
    Rode out there a couple of weeks ago from the parking lot up the trail to the top and then back down. I did not see the doubles or where ladder drop was. Can you tell me where those are?
    You would see them if you took the road up instead and is how I would recommend one to ride the trail system (Hide and Seek) instead as an out-back, especially on a busy weekend or busy day up there due to trail having a lot of short, speedy, blind corners coming down. Of course, uphill traffic always has the "right away" and the descender should always ride in control and be able to stop whenever needed, but just saying there are lots of little spots where head-on collisions could easily happen when riders are going both directions simultaneously.
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    After riding it yesterday as well, I would definately NOT recommend riding up the trail. I rode with one of the chief designers and IMBA employees in charge of the trail and she said they're planning on signing it as recommended to ride downhill only and climb the road, but doesn't sound like they can enforce it.

    Climbing it seems really unfun anyway (although I saw a girl on a SS doing it..). If you want a steady cardio workout you can easily train at your lactate threshold/VO2 Max on the road! A few laps of that and you're burnt!

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    Anyone NOT out there yesterday? Seriously, if anything points to the need for more rding oppotunities, the popularity of this area is it. I couldd't believe all the folks there.

    Three of us went out to ride at Sandy Ridge for the first time yesterday and really enjoyed the well built trails. After flailing around a bit on the trails right behind the lower parking area, we finally found our way to the paved road and rode up to the upper trailhead and back down. Fun stuff, trail was in great condition and seemed to be holding up well to all the usage. Despite the number of people we saw, we mostly had the trail to ourselves coming down.
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    New trail work events at Sandy Ridge...

    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan
    Thanks, I did see that. This will only be the second work party on the Sandy Ridge Trails open to the public. Seems like there should be at least one work party a month up there.
    (Cross-posted here for those that are following this thread)

    New trail work opportunities for Sandy Ridge posted as a separate thread:

    Sandy Ridge Trail System Work Party Days

    Summary:
    -Impromptu work event this Friday (March 12th) helping w/ the stream crossing, 9AM Homestead trailhead (yellow gate)
    -*New* trail work day Saturday, March 20th 10AM
    -Existing trail work/ride day Saturday, April 24th 9AM (part of NWTA's "Portland Trail Fest")

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    Where was everyone today? I rolled up at 8, made two laps, bailed at 10, still no cars in the parking lot... I guess 8" at Meadows distracted everyone...

    It was super greasy though... Some snow up top. Probably won't ride it in the wet again. Trails still too new to handle it... Getting some ruts and holes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattsavage
    Where was everyone today? I rolled up at 8, made two laps, bailed at 10, still no cars in the parking lot... I guess 8" at Meadows distracted everyone...

    It was super greasy though... Some snow up top. Probably won't ride it in the wet again. Trails still too new to handle it... Getting some ruts and holes.

    Bummer...I was planning on heading up tomorrow....I am hoping that the dry weather today firmed it up a bit.....Do you think I'll be damaging the trail? That's the last thing I'd want to do......

    If it does not rain tonight, I'm gonna give it a shot, so if anyone wants to meet up (I'm solo), hit me up.....also, which is the best place to park? Thanks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by caravan2001
    Bummer...I was planning on heading up tomorrow....I am hoping that the dry weather today firmed it up a bit.....Do you think I'll be damaging the trail? That's the last thing I'd want to do......

    If it does not rain tonight, I'm gonna give it a shot, so if anyone wants to meet up (I'm solo), hit me up.....also, which is the best place to park? Thanks...

    Park at that gate. There tons of room.

    I don't think you'll damage it too much... theres plenty of work parties coming up. The area's I noted that are having issues should definately be reworked anyway, regardless if you damage them or not.
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    Cool, thanks.....I'm gonna check it out in the morning.

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    Getting hammered

    Rode there today and was amazed at how beat to crap it is getting. The upper half needs some real loving to fix. A fragile area that needs to be avoided in wet weather. My .02. I learned something today because it was packed and rutted and rooted out. Plus, by the creek it is now a muck hole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaybo
    Rode there today and was amazed at how beat to crap it is getting. The upper half needs some real loving to fix. A fragile area that needs to be avoided in wet weather. My .02. I learned something today because it was packed and rutted and rooted out. Plus, by the creek it is now a muck hole.
    Yeah, they gotta fly that bridge in there, stat... Lots of area's are starting to show that will need some love and heavy armoring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaybo
    Rode there today and was amazed at how beat to crap it is getting. The upper half needs some real loving to fix. A fragile area that needs to be avoided in wet weather. My .02. I learned something today because it was packed and rutted and rooted out. Plus, by the creek it is now a muck hole.
    Actually the trails do fair pretty well with the wet, the top half at least, especially for being on the westide of the mountains. What you are more than likely seeing, is from all the use or "overuse" as of late. Be nice when the CB trail is done this summer, to spread the tread out some more.

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    I got out there today for the first time, headed up solo. Ton of cars in the parking lot...Most people seemed to be taking the trail up, but I took the road. Not sure if I took it all the way to the top, but I think I did. Rode about 3.5 miles and saw pink ties marking two different trail heads about 20 yards apart. I took the second one...Very fast and twisty but there were some sloppy parts, it's def. getting ridden by folks. The only really bad part was the creek, which was a slop fest, but for the most part the trail was in good shape and I was really impressed with all the work that has gone into this area. Cannot wait until they open more of it, this is going to be a great area....Due to it's proximity to the city and judging by today's turnout, this area is going to be hugely popular..Can't wait to go back....

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    Rode there for the first time today, wow it was awesome! Kudos to the trail builders and BLM, nice work! Can't wait to hit it up again in dryer conditions.

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    I hit it up sat with about 18 people on a Pedal Nation group ride. Great trail. I really can't wait to hit it again.

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    Sandy Ridge got pretty hammered last Sunday in the wet conditions.

    With all the rain we've received recently, I'd recommend staying away from it this weekend.

    The BLM did a bunch of repair work this week, but it would be great to let the trail settle and dry up before it gets ridden again.

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    maybe got some snow?

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    You can't shuttle it with a snowmobile, if that's what you're thinking... sheesh

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    Went there today. 3 weeks ago the trail was fine, really good condition and clear. Today on the other had, 3 inches of snow and a bunch of trees had fallen do to the last storm. I cleared some snow and limbs but still could not get enough speed or traction to go through the jump section.

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    Sounds like it's ready for the race

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    Quote Originally Posted by pieschelc
    I cleared some snow and limbs but still could not get enough speed or traction to go through the jump section.
    You can ride the jump trails below the main road now. Still takes some snow riding to get to the exits, but the actual jumps and trails are clear enough to run through. Use caution near the bottom where the ~2ft drop off is. There is a tree across the trail just before it that we couldn't move. Need to get a saw out there before someone pastes themselves on it like we almost did.

    We cleared a few trees from the paved road up so you can ride now without having to go over trees. One still requires a dismount to go under. Hopefully this get's fix on the weekend work party Saturday.

    It's going to be a few days before there is enough snow off Hide and Seek to make it worth it. We looked at it and there was 3 inches of snow on the trail, and that wasn't even half way up.

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    Sweet deal, definitely going out there Sunday.

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    Anyone ride over the weekend since there's been lots more rain? I'm gonna do a practice run Wed morning/midday if anyone want's to join me.

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    Was still thick slush on Saturday above the creek crossing. The warm weather/rain should be helping it further....
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    Its nice to hear the snow is almost gone. lol Anyone know if anything happened to the trail after last nights wind storm. I am thinking about running up there Thursday just to clear the trail with a chain saw so I can go riding Friday.

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    Um, it's snowing again.... Probably won't stick too much, but thought it was funny. Probably not funny if you are up here on the trail right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B42
    Um, it's snowing again.... Probably won't stick too much, but thought it was funny. Probably not funny if you are up here on the trail right now.
    Yeah, that was really unfunny riding in the hail and snow and rain today... Did not enjoy that. That's okay though, I got a good course walk in. There's some really nice, new holes forming...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattsavage
    There's some really nice, new holes forming...
    After 3 very wet weekends of Super D. Interesting. Last year at this time with even less rain, the trail was closed. I know a lot of work with drainage, armoring, gravel, bridge building, etc. has been done since but really?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malibu412
    After 3 very wet weekends of Super D. Interesting. Last year at this time with even less rain, the trail was closed. I know a lot of work with drainage, armoring, gravel, bridge building, etc. has been done since but really?
    I'm not quite following... Are you agreeing or disagreeing that there are some holes? Are you suggesting it should be closed now or saying that it's in remarkable shape despite the racing?

    I raced all three weekends, and noted some specific areas that significantly deteriorated with every passing weekend. That's all I was commenting on, from a racing standpoint, I noted areas to avoid to have a faster line (not that it helped much). I was not suggesting that it shouldn't be ridden or raced on considering the current conditions.
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    Malibu--Sounds like you weren't there last year and haven't been there this year. Last year, before the trail work, it was extremely bad when they shut it down. Not just muddy, but the trail was literally caving away and developing large ruts in certain sections. This year, the trail is very muddy, but its structure is also very stable so there isn't the same level of damage risk. If you actually went up and rode it right now, you would see that the races were fine.

    Also, I am not sure why so many people seem to thing that a super-d is the equivalent of a motocross race. Its generally just 50-100 people riding the trail once (or maybe twice for some of the early racers). I doubt that it is siginficantly more traffic than most weekend days up there anyway. The Oakridge/Eugene boys (except for Derrick from the shop) got all upset last year about that super-d, notwithstanding the fact that only about 40 people showed up and the previous week had 300 average to below average hungover riders tearing down the trail from MBO. After that race, not a peep from those people.

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    @ matt:

    I'm agreeing there are some holes and that the trail is in pretty decent shape despite the racing. The trail is a lot more suited for more traffic this season than last. Plus the main bridge and approach to it are done.

    Just seems there are some inconsistencies regarding the policy of bikes on this trail during the wettest part of Spring. Again, last year it was closed for 2+ months to casual weekday/weekend riding while work was being done and things were drying out. This year, 3 weekends of a popular Super D event scheduled at the front of that same wet period. I have friends that raced all 3 and said the trail held up okay. I'd have been there for one or two races myself if I did not have the Washington HS League race to prepare for.

    I'm glad it's not closed this year. I don't think it should have been closed last year (my opinion). I know, the weather will dry and with more work parties, the trail will be in premium shape for the summer season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thorkild
    Malibu--Sounds like you weren't there last year and haven't been there this year.
    Actually, I rode SR in March and early April 2010, just before the closure. This year, I have ridden it at least 3 times and spent one Saturday on a work party, installing pavers on a couple turns and graveling the tread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malibu412
    Actually, I rode SR in March and early April 2010, just before the closure. This year, I have ridden it at least 3 times and spent one Saturday on a work party, installing pavers on a couple turns and graveling the tread.
    Cool. I reread yours and matt's posts and see what you were getting at. Thought you were another super-d troll for a second...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malibu412
    Just seems there are some inconsistencies regarding the policy of bikes on this trail during the wettest part of Spring. Again, last year it was closed for 2+ months to casual weekday/weekend riding while work was being done and things were drying out.
    Malibu, could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the BLM didn't close it down until June last year ( http://nw-trail.org/forum/trail-info...onditions/2172 ). It was recommended not to ride it during some of the wetter days, but the official closure wasn't until later.

    A couple of small points: The lower section was what really got hammered last year. The focus on trail maintenance during the closure and volunteer days this winter has been to armor and improve the trail to hold up to the wet season. Last year it wasn't really refined to the point to hold up, and the lower section was in sad shape when it was finally closed in June. That said, it was unseasonably wet late spring last year, raining raining, raining thru June.

    On Monday the BLM brought in this round of youth crews to work on the trail. From what I've heard, they'll be there for the next 6 months at least. They'll be lead by IMBA/BLM resources, as much of the initial building was managed. I would expect the trail to be whipped back into shape pretty soon.

    Also, NWTA volunteer trail work day this Saturday, 9am-1pm, meet at the lower gate if you're interested. Thanks for coming out to one already this season, Malibu!
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    People, lay off Sandy Ridge now. It does not drain well, and gets royally torn up when wet. Wait till it dries up a bit. You can always hit Syncline, Tillamook Forest (WRT, HHT, etc.).

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    thanks for ruining my saturday!, we were planing on coming up and riding sandy ridge. i have never rode any of your trails up that way except sandy ridge. so maybe south we go.

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    I just finished my bike rebuild for the winter, it needs to dry out now so i can keep practicing. Does anyone have a video of the gap trail here? I waked it but I have never seen anybody do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toowacky
    On Monday the BLM brought in this round of youth crews to work on the trail. From what I've heard, they'll be there for the next 6 months at least. They'll be lead by IMBA/BLM resources, as much of the initial building was managed. I would expect the trail to be whipped back into shape pretty soon.

    Also, NWTA volunteer trail work day this Saturday, 9am-1pm, meet at the lower gate if you're interested. Thanks for coming out to one already this season, Malibu!
    Good news about the youth work crew. Anyone know if they will be working on building more of the upper loop, what was it, 338?

    I may take you up on the Saturday work. Too wet to ride anywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RighteousTrail
    People, lay off Sandy Ridge now. It does not drain well, and gets royally torn up when wet. Wait till it dries up a bit. You can always hit Syncline, Tillamook Forest (WRT, HHT, etc.).

    The BLM will put out the word if people need to stay off that trail.

    I know you really like telling people what to do but your services are not needed here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Giggity
    The BLM will put out the word if people need to stay off that trail.

    I know you really like telling people what to do but your services are not needed here.

    no, smartass, i dont like telling people what to do, i like to conserve awesome trails that are prone to getting torn up in wet conditions. there are plenty other great trails in the area to ride that drain much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RighteousTrail
    no, smartass, i dont like telling people what to do, i like to conserve awesome trails that are prone to getting torn up in wet conditions. there are plenty other great trails in the area to ride that drain much better.
    You are wrong. Sandy gets more wet weather bike traffic than any trail in the state. It holds up quite well considering.

    The plan for Sandy is to let people ride it when wet and fix and reinforce it as necessary. The goal is to build a trail that will hold up in all weather conditions. This info comes directly from the BLM project manager for the area. This could change but that decision will come from the BLM and not you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Giggity
    You are wrong. Sandy gets more wet weather bike traffic than any trail in the state. It holds up quite well considering.

    The plan for Sandy is to let people ride it when wet and fix and reinforce it as necessary. The goal is to build a trail that will hold up in all weather conditions. This info comes directly from the BLM project manager for the area. This could change but that decision will come from the BLM and not you.
    +1

    I say shred it, let it ride in naturally. Fix or reroute the mud bogs, but let those rocks and roots come out naturally. The more techy the better! Except for the little climby bits, those need to be buffed out like a sidewalk...
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    ok, well i admit it, i am wrong, if this is coming from the BLM manager. i love Sandy Ridge, dont get me wrong, but damn it gets alot of action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Giggity
    You are wrong. Sandy gets more wet weather bike traffic than any trail in the state. It holds up quite well considering.

    The plan for Sandy is to let people ride it when wet and fix and reinforce it as necessary. The goal is to build a trail that will hold up in all weather conditions. This info comes directly from the BLM project manager for the area. This could change but that decision will come from the BLM and not you.

    I dont believe it gets the most wet weather riding in the state. ****, its only been around a little over a year. How do you make that assumption?

    The reason why its gotten so much traffic is because: its a great NEW system of trails, because everyone on here raves about it so much (rightfully so), the experts at IMBA built it, and it close to Portland.

    I still think it should be used less in wet conditions. Ive been out there and talked to users and most people dont even know about Syncline or Tilly Forest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattsavage
    I say shred it, let it ride in naturally. Fix or reroute the mud bogs, but let those rocks and roots come out naturally. The more techy the better! Except for the little climby bits, those need to be buffed out like a sidewalk...
    +1 to this.

    I have to admit, I have not ridden Sandy Ridge yet and I'm not a big fan of riding in the mud either, but if the BLM deems it ok to ride when it's wet, then that should be good enough. Plus all of the armoring I've heard about seems to further point out it is ok to ride when wet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RighteousTrail
    I dont believe it gets the most wet weather riding in the state. ****, its only been around a little over a year. How do you make that assumption?

    The reason why its gotten so much traffic is because: its a great NEW system of trails, because everyone on here raves about it so much (rightfully so), the experts at IMBA built it, and it close to Portland.

    I still think it should be used less in wet conditions. Ive been out there and talked to users and most people dont even know about Syncline or Tilly Forest.
    Which trail would you say gets more use? Syncline might. Same goes for Phil's or Mrazek when the aren't under snow. The difference is that none of those trails hold up that well when they are actually wet. They are just more likely to be dry so it is not an apples to apples comparison.

    Sandy was getting 1400 trips a month before they closed it last year. It is a lot busier this year but I don't know the number. The BLM figures the area will draw 30,000 visits a year when complete.

    There are lots of trail days for anyone who feels guilty about riding Sandy when wet. Ride. Fix. Repeat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Giggity
    There are lots of trail days for anyone who feels guilty about riding Sandy when wet. Ride. Fix. Repeat.
    That'd be me. This Saturday, I'm ridin' it early in the AM, workin' on it with the crew and shreddin' it some more.
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    Slight change of plans for the scheduled work party this weekend, the event has been canceled.

    Unseasonably low snow levels and the uncertainty of a government shutdown that would furlough BLM employees and their contractors (our IMBA friends) are the main reasons for the cancellation. However, youth crews started working this week and Hide & Seek already has seen a lot of post-race rehab.

    Volunteer trail care will resume on May 14th, 2011. This weekend get a ride in or visit The PDX Bicycle Show.

    Sandy Ridge Trail Care day May 14th

    Thanks everyone for supporting this great trail system!
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    Just got back from the trail and there is about 6-8" of snow on the top half of the trail. From the last bridge down the trail is in great shape, I wouldn't waste your time going to the top, all the snow is old and has melted and refroze making it pretty tough to get anything going.

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    That is useful information motoman10...thanks!I guess it'll be Wilson again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by motoman10
    Just got back from the trail and there is about 6-8" of snow on the top half of the trail. From the last bridge down the trail is in great shape, I wouldn't waste your time going to the top, all the snow is old and has melted and refroze making it pretty tough to get anything going.
    That messes up my plans. Thanks for the update though!
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