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    Sandy Ridge

    Rode Sandy Ridge this morning, haven't ridden out there for a month or so and Hide and Seek is one beat down MF'er...Blown out corners, brake bumps into the corners and in the middle of berms, multiple lines around rocks and roots on the upper trail and people are even cutting the corners on the paver section on lower Hide and Seek.

    I wonder how she'll hold up to the final stage of the Oregon Enduro Series? Not well, I'm sure.

    I still enjoyed the trail, but damn, people need to ride within there skill level.
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    I did hear machinery above the road near the midway drop-in on Hide and Seek. Can't wait to see what they're building.
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    these late season trail conditions make me appreciate my 6" travel ride a lot more!

    anybody know when the next trail maintence day is scheduled?

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    Quote Originally Posted by etacata View Post
    anybody know when the next trail maintence day is scheduled?
    I'd bet when the rains start.
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    It always seem blown up to me. I'm glad the microwave trail has been built.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan View Post
    Rode Sandy Ridge this morning, haven't ridden out there for a month or so and Hide and Seek is one beat down MF'er...Blown out corners, brake bumps into the corners and in the middle of berms, multiple lines around rocks and roots on the upper trail and people are even cutting the corners on the paver section on lower Hide and Seek.

    I wonder how she'll hold up to the final stage of the Oregon Enduro Series? Not well, I'm sure.

    I still enjoyed the trail, but damn, people need to ride within there skill level.
    I thought that it was in very poor shape on my last excursion. Due as much to the skill level as the lack of moisture. I believe that many riders are way over there head here. Who attempted to remove that large tree root on Hide & Seek? That reminded me of the "whimpification" of Browns Camp. Thanks for the warning. I had told myself that a trip back must include at least a bit of moisture. Bad manners are the default I suppose.
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    Rode it today. And it... was... glorious! Sure, the track has it's share of braking bumps, but still faster and flowy-ier than anything else in the area. Rode Communcation Breakdown for the first time today. Not sure it's worth the extra little bit of climbing.

    Speaking of over my head, I'm only 1 for 4 on that rock drop at the beginning of Two Turntables. Once didn't have enough speed and twice missed the line by bowling over the rocks on the left. Is it just me or do both of the run-ins to the rock drops at Sandy make them harder than they should be?!

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    It's just a very popular option now for Portland folks. Given the packed parking lot every weekend, dry summer, I'd say I'm pleasantly surprised with how Sandy Ridge is holding up. Sure it's a bit thrashed, but it's been getting heavy use all summer.
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    The other day I actually tried connecting with Communication Breakdown off of QuidProFlow. CB peaks in the middle so you do have a little downhill coming back around to the Rock Drop descent. Not a bad way to add a little miles if its not crowded out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benja55 View Post
    It's just a very popular option now for Portland folks. Given the packed parking lot every weekend, dry summer, I'd say I'm pleasantly surprised with how Sandy Ridge is holding up. Sure it's a bit thrashed, but it's been getting heavy use all summer.
    True, but why the obstacle removal? If you can't ride it that does not give license to dumb it down. Maybe some rear brakes should be disconnected too. Does popularity excuse the new spider web trails as well?
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    Dumbing down is never OK

    Quote Originally Posted by poppa#1 View Post
    True, but why the obstacle removal? If you can't ride it that does not give license to dumb it down.
    Agreed. I wonder if the removal of obstacles is official or unofficial? Either way, it's weak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poppa#1 View Post
    True, but why the obstacle removal? If you can't ride it that does not give license to dumb it down. Maybe some rear brakes should be disconnected too. Does popularity excuse the new spider web trails as well?
    The root removed you speak of was more than likely done to allow for continued/non-altered speed on upper H&S, as the goal of design is to be a "flow" trail with consistent speed from top to bottom and why it is one-way recommended traffic as well (the trail was originally intended for flow and speed) Whereas, QPF, Two Turntables trails offer a little more tech and the new trail section on the NE side of Rd. 14 is suppose to be even more naturally techy with bigger stuff to ride as well. Will be awesome when done as it starts at top of H&S (across from kiosk) to just below the connector to lower H&S on opposite side of Rd. I looked up at that location the last time I was there where trail is flagged off of Rd and could see a huge natural rock drop slab (with ride around options of course )
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgusta View Post
    The root removed you speak of was more than likely done to allow for continued/non-altered speed on upper H&S, as the goal of design is to be a "flow" trail with consistent speed from top to bottom and why it is one-way recommended traffic as well (the trail was originally intended for flow and speed) Whereas, QPF, Two Turntables trails offer a little more tech and the new trail section on the NE side of Rd. 14 is suppose to be even more naturally techy with bigger stuff to ride as well. Will be awesome when done as it starts at top of H&S (across from kiosk) to just below the connector to lower H&S on opposite side of Rd. I looked up at that location the last time I was there where trail is flagged off of Rd and could see a huge natural rock drop slab (with ride around options of course )
    The quality of the work just did not match everything else on Sandy. The root was easily jumped with speed as my best ally. It appeared to have been done by someone with less direction. I was certainly not *****in' about tech features as they have existed. It just plain looks like "this one root really messes with my line". I am sure that you, for instance, have never been hampered by this root... seriously. OT... I really enjoy Sandy Ridge... looking forward to late fall up there.
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    I miss that root. There was something enjoyable about using it to jump that whole section or just plowing over it. Thanks to whoever doesn't have the balls to learn how to ride a trail properly we all suffer. I'm looking forward to the new trail if its truly going to be a tech advanced trail. Any word on when it will be done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by finch6013 View Post
    I miss that root. There was something enjoyable about using it to jump that whole section or just plowing over it. Thanks to whoever doesn't have the balls to learn how to ride a trail properly we all suffer. I'm looking forward to the new trail if its truly going to be a tech advanced trail. Any word on when it will be done?
    Same root? I too miss the small rock-faced root launch on left of trail about 1/4 mile above bridge as you approach a straight-away section at speed after a couple speedy s-turn sections (just before where Two Turntables use to unofficiaclly come out before the lower section was completed). I use to love launching off that at speed into with enough speed and momentum to not have to pedal all the way to oncoming corner after the longish bumpy/stuttery straightaway section. The big root that was a a total speed trap above this, required one to have to slow down and pedal/hop up and over. This was right after the somewhat newly sanitized rocky section before left turn that is better and faster now since revised IMO as well. And yes I have got my tire hung up on that root a time or two, once during the 2010 Super D. Bad enough, that I was totally off the bike and fumbling for seconds to get bike re-oriented between the trees and back on the trail. Somehow was able to place 1st in my Cat to my surprise, must of made up for it on the other sections .
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    Quote Originally Posted by poppa#1 View Post
    True, but why the obstacle removal? If you can't ride it that does not give license to dumb it down. Maybe some rear brakes should be disconnected too. Does popularity excuse the new spider web trails as well?
    I find it funny that many of the root/rock ride-a-round routes are harder than just going over the rock/root, even rolling them at moderate speed.
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    I've ridden Sandy Ridge quite a bit this year and it is noticeable how worn the trail is getting compared to earlier in the season. The blown out corners and brake bumps I can live with, but I can't believe people are short cutting through the paver section.

    Don't get me wrong, there's nothing up there that is bad, but I have to say my favorite section of trail at Sandy Ridge is the Upper section of Hide and Seek from the kiosk to the midway drop-in, I love the rocky rooty stuff. And that man made rocky section on Quid Pro Flow is damn good too. If the rumors are true about the new trail being super technical, I wouldn't be more happy.

    And IMO, speed is what makes TT&M technical, the trail is nothing at lower speeds, but take it up a notch, and the whoops and little g-outs change the trail characteristics very fast. I've found the opposite with upper Hide & Seek, the more I learn the trail the faster I've been riding it and with more speed it seems much easier.
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    TT&M sure is fun at speed. Can't wait till fall when I can rip that trail in damp conditions. All that wet rock will be SOOO fun! Is it me or did the trail wreckers dumb down the dropping big right turn on upper HS. That has a nice rocky elevation drop into a rocky right cornered berm. If you choose the right line with enough speed you can just about jump half the section landing in the sweet spot of the berm. I'd also note that the berms on QPF that are starting to show baby heads are a blast on a 6'' bike. I really hope they leave them alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by finch6013 View Post
    TT&M sure is fun at speed. Can't wait till fall when I can rip that trail in damp conditions. All that wet rock will be SOOO fun! Is it me or did the trail wreckers dumb down the dropping big right turn on upper HS. That has a nice rocky elevation drop into a rocky right cornered berm. If you choose the right line with enough speed you can just about jump half the section landing in the sweet spot of the berm. I'd also note that the berms on QPF that are starting to show baby heads are a blast on a 6'' bike. I really hope they leave them alone.
    I could not agree more about TT&M at speed. It is the only place up there that I don't want to be on the HT SSPD. Suspension and 8" rotors fit so well on this section. Cheers to that moisture element too!
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    Agreed: TT&M at speed = pure pleasure

    Quote Originally Posted by poppa#1 View Post
    I could not agree more about TT&M at speed.
    It's over too fast, but it's so nice while it lasts. Well done to those who built it and PLEASE don't sanitize it!
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    Rode Sandy Friday after work and yeah it's pretty blown out (not much more than this time last year though). A lot of guys there getting in some practice runs for the race, and this will obviously add to how blown out it will get. Not sure I understand the concept of shuttle days or events held on our fragile local trails that just kill them for the rest of us. Can someone explain that to me? Don't even get me started on the genius idea of throwing 3/4 rock down everywhere.

    Also to anybody that is or knows anybody who is cutting the roots out of Browns camp please STOP! There are very few challenges on our trails and if I catch anybody robbing me of them your tools are getting tossed down the ravine. Have a nice day.

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    Crying shame about browns camp. I can't speak for events being held on our local trails as I partake in those events. I will say that some event organizers plan trial maintenance as part of using the trails.

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    I rode Sandy today and yes there are some major braking pot holes appearing all over the place. Lower Hide and Seek has been getting these for a while, but today I noticed that 2 Turntables is getting beat up by brake happy folks. This is most definitely from novice riders riding the breaks way too much most definitely, but today I was riding close to some so called expert or advanced riders that are here for the race tomorrow and they were skidding all over the place as well.

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    Area is getting hammered by over use, bad winter weather, and so so dirt. Great effort! I do wonder if it should be closed more when it becomes hammered by winter weather. I'm not convinced that skidding is the major problem but I am not an expert on such things....

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    Quote Originally Posted by big JC View Post
    Rode Sandy Friday after work and yeah it's pretty blown out (not much more than this time last year though). A lot of guys there getting in some practice runs for the race, and this will obviously add to how blown out it will get. Not sure I understand the concept of shuttle days or events held on our fragile local trails that just kill them for the rest of us. Can someone explain that to me? Don't even get me started on the genius idea of throwing 3/4 rock down everywhere.

    Also to anybody that is or knows anybody who is cutting the roots out of Browns camp please STOP! There are very few challenges on our trails and if I catch anybody robbing me of them your tools are getting tossed down the ravine. Have a nice day.
    Are you serious... I did not think that there was anything left to remove? What a shame.When roots and rocks are removed the trail will not remain intact. Don't they get it. They think that the root took them out... wait 'til the giant rut dislocates there shoulder! All the suspension out there and people need to do this? The brake drag is what makes the brake bumps, btw. The shuttle thing is kinda cute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by big JC View Post
    Rode Sandy Friday after work and yeah it's pretty blown out (not much more than this time last year though).
    About this time last year I had bounced my head off of a tree, so I don't have much to compare this year too.

    Quote Originally Posted by big JC View Post
    A lot of guys there getting in some practice runs for the race, and this will obviously add to how blown out it will get. Not sure I understand the concept of shuttle days or events held on our fragile local trails that just kill them for the rest of us. Can someone explain that to me?
    I'm kind of torn on on this one...On one hand, all the extra tires can't be a good thing, but on the other, I do believe the race promoters usually do give back.

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    Don't even get me started on the genius idea of throwing 3/4 rock down everywhere.
    I agree with you here, but it is much better than it was earlier in the year. That section under the power lines sure is loose with the rock over the top of the hard pack.

    Quote Originally Posted by big JC View Post
    Also to anybody that is or knows anybody who is cutting the roots out of Browns camp please STOP! There are very few challenges on our trails and if I catch anybody robbing me of them your tools are getting tossed down the ravine. Have a nice day.
    This is too bad.


    If anybody wants to ride some super technical trails, I'm hoping to get up to the Wright Meadow and Craggy Peak trails in late September, as long as it doesn't start raining before then. I rode it in early August and hit snow about a mile before the Boundary Trail. I guarantee the descent will leave you smiling for weeks. And, yeah...If you've ever been up there, it's a bit ironic to put this in a thread whining about trail quality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan View Post
    About this time last year I had bounced my head off of a tree, so I don't have much to compare this year too.



    I'm kind of torn on on this one...On one hand, all the extra tires can't be a good thing, but on the other, I do believe the race promoters usually do give back.



    I agree with you here, but it is much better than it was earlier in the year. That section under the power lines sure is loose with the rock over the top of the hard pack.



    This is too bad.


    If anybody wants to ride some super technical trails, I'm hoping to get up to the Wright Meadow and Craggy Peak trails in late September, as long as it doesn't start raining before then. I rode it in early August and hit snow about a mile before the Boundary Trail. I guarantee the descent will leave you smiling for weeks. And, yeah...If you've ever been up there, it's a bit ironic to put this in a thread whining about trail quality.
    Weekends are best. I like it up there. Rain would be even better. It would be the first excursion to that area this year. pm... Snake should go as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by poppa#1 View Post
    Weekends are best. I like it up there. Rain would be even better. It would be the first excursion to that area this year. pm... Snake should go as well
    Probably be the last weekend of September.
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    Help out a Sandy Ridge noob?

    Never been to Sandy Rdige, but picked up a map from the forest service last time I was out that way. Looks like the best place to park is Homestead Gate (I assume you can't drive up Homestead Rd)? Then you ride up Homestead to the main entrance to the trails, which looks like about 800ft climb over a couple of miles? Thanks guys!

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    I rode the system today, It is pretty damn rutted from the contest. Also, the organizers left their tape, signs, and cones all over. Pretty lame, I hope they have plans to clean up their crap but I doubt it. I think that there should be a mandatory work day post contest for any organizers that want to use the trail system.

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    pdxer, there's a new parking area for SR now so you don't park at the gate. And yes, you can't drive up Homestead. Road ride to the various trail access points.

    I rode lower H&S last week (only has a short time for a ride) and it was blown to hell, worst I've ever seen it, even after last year's race. Too bad the promoters didn't make plans for cleanup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danguskhan View Post
    I rode the system today, It is pretty damn rutted from the contest. Also, the organizers left their tape, signs, and cones all over. Pretty lame, I hope they have plans to clean up their crap but I doubt it. I think that there should be a mandatory work day post contest for any organizers that want to use the trail system.
    They were too busy driving up the "climb". Too bad... a few years back they actually improved Dog River. That lasted about two weeks. Since that event trail restoration after gravity events has been about zero. Rain and CX may provide some relief for the trails.
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    I don't think the tape and cones will just be left. The race finished about 4pm on sunday and then the event staff had to go strait into the awards that lasted till about 9pm. All of the staff for the enduro race are volunteers for the most part and they can't be expected to have it all cleaned and the trails groomed to fit everyones needs over night. I know that proceeds from the race go directly into the trails and trail programs in the area as well.

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    I rode Sandy Ridge today. It looks like the ribbon, signs and garbage (except for a huge pile in bags near the bathroom) have been cleaned up.

    I was a little surprised on the condition of the trail. It's much worse than before the Enduro race last weekend, but not nearly as bad as I was thinking it would be. There are some big, and I mean big brake bumps into some, if not all of the corners on lower Hide and Seek.

    I think I now know which root poppa is talking about. It looks like somebody went in with a ax and chopped out a small section of the root. It seems much worse now than before.

    Does anybody know if we can just go up and do work? I assume not, but I'd love to go up with a broom and sweep off the gravel on that twisty section under the power lines. On a positive note, it appears the high number of tires over the weekend did push some of it out of the groove.
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    I think we all want the gravel gone so if you pushed it out with a broom we'd all look the other way. Even some of the pro racers were complaining about the gravel.

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    I'm going to be in OR next week and Sandy Ridge is on the itinerary. I hope it's as much fun as the IMBA guy told us, and I'll be sure to lay off the brakes

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    Quote Originally Posted by finch6013 View Post
    I think we all want the gravel gone so if you pushed it out with a broom we'd all look the other way. Even some of the pro racers were complaining about the gravel.
    I wonder if a push broom would be best or one of those old straw types?



    And to add, there was a pile of broken glass in the parking lot, I assume from a broken window.
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    Well I'm planning on hitting Sandy on the 13th - birthday night out and need a ride so I guess I'll take what I can in the way of trail conditions

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    I'm assuming the Enduro Series will either do clean up trail work or give money to NWTA. Most of the endurance events I have done have given lots of money to the local IMBA chapter. I forget how much money the High Cascade 100 gave to COTA but it was a lot.

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    I rode out there for the first time in a few months due to an injury. I actually like that it's a bit worked and blown out... adds a bit of challenge.

    The removal of that root is inexcusable though. I just couldn't believe it when I came up in that section, so sad.

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    While yes, races do give the trail lots of rubber on the ground, as mentioned, often that can almost improve the trails. The groove will be more solid, which you can't "man make". Filling some holes, that will eventually happen any way, is easier than "wearing in" a surface to make it good and fast.

    You guys should see Whoops trail here in Bend. No race traffic, but crap it looks like 50 Enduros came through here.
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    Sandy Ridge race video for all you that missed it! Devon put on a great race, check it out!

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    Anybody doing singlespeed at Sandy Ridge? Got a good recommendation for a noobie to get up the f'ing hill?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yard View Post
    Anybody doing singlespeed at Sandy Ridge? Got a good recommendation for a noobie to get up the f'ing hill?
    I always ride the SSPD up there. 29'R 32X18,19,20 any choice is fine. One friend ran a 32x16, he STOOD UP ALOT.
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    Yeah I was 29er 33x17 and walked a good portion. Oops.. haha Though doing it as a shuttle would be perfect as the downhill of everything else was conducive to the gearing..

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    I make it easy on myself. I ride 32 x 22 on a 29er. At that gearing I can sit and pedal much of the uphill and I am still fine spinning coming down.
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    Been wanting to try that one...still haven't made it out there yet..

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    Anyone know the progress of the new east side trail? I haven't heard or seen any equipment up there for a while and have not seen any build days for the new trail.

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    walked up there a week ago to have a look. Nice trail! Seems like its got some technical rock sections and a few good drops,

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    I can't wait! Sandy really needs some gnar.

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    I've been on it. It's definitely some good and more technical terrain, but I'm personally bummed that everything here here is pretty much built to imba grading standards. Soo, even through the tough stuff it's still a wide trail with short tech sections and banked switchbacks. I'd really like to see some steeper narrow fall line stuff like you see in BC. The location of the new trail is perfect for that, they'd just need to put a couple of differen down lines in. Maybe it's in the plans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thorkild View Post
    I've been on it. It's definitely some good and more technical terrain, but I'm personally bummed that everything here here is pretty much built to imba grading standards. Soo, even through the tough stuff it's still a wide trail with short tech sections and banked switchbacks. I'd really like to see some steeper narrow fall line stuff like you see in BC. The location of the new trail is perfect for that, they'd just need to put a couple of differen down lines in. Maybe it's in the plans.
    I haven't been on it yet, but I have to agree with the lack of "Fall line trails". I'd go as far as to say most of Oregon and SW Washington are missing these types of trail.

    Although we don't have this type of terrain in the PNW, this is the type of riding I'd like to see more of ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan View Post
    I haven't been on it yet, but I have to agree with the lack of "Fall line trails". I'd go as far as to say most of Oregon and SW Washington are missing these types of trail.

    Although we don't have this type of terrain in the PNW, this is the type of riding I'd like to see more of
    Yep. If you've ridden the xc in whistler pemby squamish or similar, you'll know what I'm talking about. This is an extreme example, but google jack the ripper in pemberton to see what's possible. Guys that clean that trail have my total respect

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    Quote Originally Posted by thorkild View Post
    Yep. If you've ridden the xc in whistler pemby squamish or similar, you'll know what I'm talking about. This is an extreme example, but google jack the ripper in pemberton to see what's possible. Guys that clean that trail have my total respect
    Wow, Jack the Ripper looks like a tough one. My Canadian riding experience is limited to a few trips to Rossland, which does have plenty of trails with a high pucker factor too.

    It would be amazing to have trails like these in the area. We definitely have the terrain to build them on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan View Post
    It would be amazing to have trails like these in the area. We definitely have the terrain to build them on.
    We already do have trails like this in the high Gorge and around Mt. Hood, but they just happen to all be in wilderness areas
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    Quote Originally Posted by thorkild View Post
    Yep. If you've ridden the xc in whistler pemby squamish or similar, you'll know what I'm talking about. This is an extreme example, but google jack the ripper in pemberton to see what's possible. Guys that clean that trail have my total respect
    Thanks for the Jack the Ripper suggestion. The video I saw looked like what "some" of us want. A rugged trail dropping from the sky. Who is lining up a Pemberton trip next year? I am in. Plus, I agree with jgusta in regards to what is available in our region.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poppa#1 View Post
    Who is lining up a Pemberton trip next year? I am in.
    Me too as I am tentatively planning a Pemby/Whistler Valley/Squamish trip next summer, especially after riding there for the first time this past summer, with exception of Pemby though. According to Whistler locals, that is where most of them go to get some longer trail descents in as most of the valley trails don't have as much vertical gain/loss, outside of the bike park of course. I also was surprised to hear how many guys who work in the bike shops that rarely ride the park for prefence to other places in the area. I just want to hit the bike park for the "Top of World" trail when it officially done next year!

    Let's plan a trip, I already have some beta on good, longer descending Pemby rides and you would like riding with the guys I went with last year as they all like to pedal and hit fun stuff to ride. Whistler Village makes a great base camp as you can ride right from the condo to cool trails (I ran into the biggest bear I have ever seen one early evening right before dusk on trail just 1/2 mile from condo). And Whistler is pretty much exactly geographically in between Pemberton and Squamish at only 30 minutes away from each to the north and south. We had a nice place in North Village Whistler (outskirts of main Village with great access to surrounding Valley trails and to bike park as well) and only cost about $155/person for 4 nights with three dudes. We rode one day in Squamish on the way to Whistler, three days on trails in the Whistler Valley with one 1/2 day in bike park and hit Squamish again on our way back home. It was just about the perfect amount of time to ride without being away from the families for too long of 4nights/5 days.
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    If this Canada trip materializes, I'd venture north with you guys. I definitely want to ride the "Top of the World" trail.
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    Wow, that video in colorado was pretty awesome, i want to ride there! I have to pep-talk myself when it gets technical and rocky and i'm sure i'd walk a couple sections, but that looks like a ton of fun! Another place on my someday list.

    I'm going to Sandy Ridge on monday, it'll be my first time there. Looking forward to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poppa#1 View Post
    Thanks for the Jack the Ripper suggestion. The video I saw looked like what "some" of us want. A rugged trail dropping from the sky. Who is lining up a Pemberton trip next year? I am in. Plus, I agree with jgusta in regards to what is available in our region.
    Its hands down the hardest trail I have ever attempted, and I walked alot of stuff, but I thoroughly enjoyed it.

    Interesting timing on my comment. There is an article on trail design in the new Dirt Rag. I generally don't start many new threads, but maybe I'll put one in passion since its probably better suited over there.

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    Just rode sandy today and had a great time. I was quite surprised at how much grip is available when it's wet.

    With the amount of traffic this place gets I can't imagine a fall line style trail lasting very long. It's still a good time though.
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    We rode Sandy yesterday and it was a perfect day. The Turntable is an awesome trail. Great trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaybo View Post
    We rode Sandy yesterday and it was a perfect day. The Turntable is an awesome trail. Great trail.
    Nice, glad you like it.

    Here's a ride I did there today with nice left shoulder clip of tree that sent me off of bike mid-way down. One of the many benefits of using 780mm bars . Good times on the ridge today!

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    Great to hear. Headed back up there tomorrow after work.

    Where are the jump lines and Little Monkey at? I don't remember them being on the mounted map and cant download the new one off the BLM site now for some reason. Thanks!

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    they are on the right as you are headed up the road just before the power lines corner. There isn't really signage for it besides some home made signs. The jump trails aren't officially part of Sandy Ridge.

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    Nice, glad you like it.

    Here's a ride I did there today with nice left shoulder clip of tree that sent me off of bike mid-way down. One of the many benefits of using 780mm bars . Good times on the ridge today!
    The trails has perfect pitch and is flowy the whole way down. Really well built!
    I enjoyed the views from up top! Communication Breakdown is a hoot also.
    I was blown away by the parking lot and all the work done up there. A great effort.

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    wfo and i rode little monkey at the end of our ride. It was pretty fun. I'm a total wimp and enjoyed the small jumps. Next time we'll have to try the other trail that starts parallel with little monkey, I can't remember the name of it now. Is it just a bigger jump line?

    Things were wet but traction was still surprisingly good!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgusta View Post
    Nice, glad you like it.

    Here's a ride I did there today with nice left shoulder clip of tree that sent me off of bike mid-way down. One of the many benefits of using 780mm bars . Good times on the ridge today!
    I should have been with you yesterday. Nice video, I like the "RE-DO" caption. It looks good out there. I better get the purple bike ready soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgusta View Post
    Nice, glad you like it.

    Here's a ride I did there today with nice left shoulder clip of tree that sent me off of bike mid-way down. One of the many benefits of using 780mm bars . Good times on the ridge today!
    :^) Nice footage - that tree has jumped out in front of my shoulder as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMW503 View Post
    :^) Nice footage - that tree has jumped out in front of my shoulder as well.
    Thanks, added some tunes to clip that was playing in my noggin that ride. Must of put me in a trance before I kissed the tree
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    Thanks, added some tunes to clip that was playing in my noggin that ride. Must of put me in a trance before I kissed the tree
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    Is sandy rideable year round?

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    No sandy is not ridable all year so stay away from it It gets ridden all year but some times BLM will close the trails for a few months due to trail conditions.

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    Mostly, yes.

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    Is sandy rideable year round?
    But it does get some snow and ice at times.
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    Ya, The Trail Masters at SR have built trails that dont hold water. All Year riding excepy when its pouring out. Wait a day after a good rain and its ready to go.

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    That's some of the best soil when wet, I was real surprised. Real sticky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by free-agent View Post
    But it does get some snow and ice at times.
    Sandy in the snow is good times!!!

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    All that gravel thats so annoying in the summer seats nice in the soft soil when wet and makes it like riding sandpaper.

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    Thanks for the info. Went today and the dirt was perfect.

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    I was out there today too. It is amazing how good the dirt is when its a little damp. It is not at all muddy. The trail holds together way better than it did during the singletrack dust storms of August.

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    Thanksgiving morning the trails were great. The upper elevation trails(rock drop, quid pro, two turntables) were nice and tacky. The lower elevation stuff was a little soggy in places with some standing water in the usual places/braking holes. It was a good ride and I seen a lot of other people gettin some wile it's still good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by finch6013 View Post
    Thanksgiving morning the trails were great. The upper elevation trails(rock drop, quid pro, two turntables) were nice and tacky. The lower elevation stuff was a little soggy in places with some standing water in the usual places/braking holes. It was a good ride and I seen a lot of other people gettin some wile it's still good.
    I sure was thankful. It was a great day to ride a mountain bike. It may be the first Thanksgiving that I did not ride a road bike. I will always be thankful for that. I just wish that I would have had all day to spend at Sandy. Nice people out there yesterday too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by poppa#1 View Post
    I just wish that I would have had all day to spend at Sandy.
    Ditto this, as I didn't want to leave despite a botchy drivetrain that day.
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    Anyone go today? Thinking of going tomorrow and wondering how it is. . Thanks

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    Considering how little it rained since T-day, I bet it's going to be good. I'm headed to Syncline tomorrow.

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    It was good on thursday and it barely rained since then so I think sandy should be good to go for sunday. Enjoy, I might make it out myself.

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    Lower section ripped tonight upper was pretty tough in some areas - I'd say there was a good 18" snow on the last 1/3rd mile to the kiosk. Did have to push that last 1/3rd on the road but was worth it. Rode most the way on trail to Rock Drop and tried to come down that -was pretty slow with the deep snow but we sure tried with the Fat Bikes

    Ended up coming down Hide & Seek and the upper wasn't to bad - snow in quite a bit of the upper but after crossing the bridge it was game on

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    I know this is an old post.... but, I am going up to PDX on sat morning, thinking about a sandy ridge ride in the early am... can anybody tell me info on where the trail head is and etc???

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    Quote Originally Posted by shugarbear View Post
    I know this is an old post.... but, I am going up to PDX on sat morning, thinking about a sandy ridge ride in the early am... can anybody tell me info on where the trail head is and etc???
    Sandy Ridge

    The dirt was really, really nice today. First time on Communication Breakdown for me, super fun trail. Two turn Tables and a Microwave was riding good too. Upper and lower Hide and Seek are great and the new work on lower Hide and Seek just below the cut off is nice.

    Does anybody know when the new stuff on the east side of Homestead Rd will be open?
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    New question here. Horse damage on lower Sandy Ridge trails?

    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan View Post
    Does anybody know when the new stuff on the east side of Homestead Rd will be open?
    Yeah, I'm curious about that too. I'm kind of in awe of how good Sandy Ridge is at this point. It packs so much goodness in to what seems to me a pretty modest footprint and keeps getting better. Send in those NWTA memberships people!

    On a crappier note, Did anyone else notice some horse damage to lower HS & Laura's Loop? This was on 4/27 in the AM. I'm cool with equestrians in general, but damn if that animal didn't punch pretty major holes into the trail!
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    Quote Originally Posted by benja55 View Post
    Yeah, I'm curious about that too. I'm kind of in awe of how good Sandy Ridge is at this point. It packs so much goodness in to what seems to me a pretty modest footprint and keeps getting better. Send in those NWTA memberships people!

    On a crappier note, Did anyone else notice some horse damage to lower HS & Laura's Loop? This was on 4/27 in the AM. I'm cool with equestrians in general, but damn if that animal didn't punch pretty major holes into the trail!
    I am not cool with the horsies. Complete BS... post holes should be accompanied by sharp jabs to the throat. It appears to me that a few more tires on the PCT are in order. This "how the west was won" activity needs to stop. Take pictures and send them to Marcie Houle ASAP!
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    Quote Originally Posted by benja55 View Post
    On a crappier note, [B]Did anyone else notice some horse damage to lower HS & Laura's Loop?
    Are horses legal on SR trails? Im not an equestrian hater either, but there is absolutely no way equestrians should be using the SR trail system. It was built by mtn. bkers and maintained by mtn. bikers. Im not sure of this, but I am willing to bet that has been no equestrian group that has helped out with building/maintaining this system.

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    New question here. Don't think so...

    Quote Originally Posted by RighteousTrail View Post
    Are horses legal on SR trails? Im not an equestrian hater either, but there is absolutely no way equestrians should be using the SR trail system.
    I'm not sure of the legality of it, but it's fundamentally unsafe and the direction of horsie travel was clearly heading uphill from the HS connector by the main gate ( I only ride that section uphill if I'm basically the only car in the lot. It's technically still downhill-only AFAIK)

    And yeah, it's a purpose-built trail system and that purpose is mountain biking. There are tons of multi-use trails available in OR, but Sandy Ridge isn't one of them, as far as I understand it.
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    Take a look at the link that I provided above. Sandy Ridge is technically a multi use trail system open to bikes and people on foot, but not horses.
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    No good Good to know...

    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan View Post
    Sandy Ridge is technically a multi use trail system open to bikes and people on foot, but not horses.
    Thanks for pointing that out OHM. So not only were they not abiding by the rules of the trail, but they fuct it up pretty nicely in the process...

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    That really pisses me off about the horse damage. I hope that equestrian get's what they deserve somehow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan View Post

    Does anybody know when the new stuff on the east side of Homestead Rd will be open?
    I'm itching to know more as well. I've taken a peak at a few sections and it looks close. I'm hoping it will open this summer, but I've not heard or seen of any build days going on for that trail. Every build day so far has just been maintenance on existing trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by finch6013 View Post
    I've not heard or seen of any build days going on for that trail. Every build day so far has just been maintenance on existing trails.
    The pattern with SR major builds as I've observed is the BLM/IMBA crew does the initial build and the public/NWTA events are more about fine tuning the lines and general maintenance.

    Oh and the post-holing by equestrians sucks, even on shared trails they are allowed on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glide the Clyde View Post
    Oh and the post-holing by equestrians sucks, even on shared trails they are allowed on.
    I just learned a new term! Yeah, messed up regardless of the trail. And seems kind of dangerous for the horse too. Some of the holes near the bottom were deep!
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