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    Quote Originally Posted by shugarbear View Post

    is there a better map?
    Why? What's wrong with this map? It shows all the currently open lines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by benja55 View Post
    Yeah, I'm curious about that too. I'm kind of in awe of how good Sandy Ridge is at this point. It packs so much goodness in to what seems to me a pretty modest footprint and keeps getting better. Send in those NWTA memberships people!

    On a crappier note, Did anyone else notice some horse damage to lower HS & Laura's Loop? This was on 4/27 in the AM. I'm cool with equestrians in general, but damn if that animal didn't punch pretty major holes into the trail!
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    In the market for some new tires and I ride sandy quite a bit. Have been running kenda nevegal 2.35 for years and looking to try something new. Any suggestions? Thanks

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    I'm addicted to big betty rear muddy mary front. Not the fasted combo on earth but faster than nevegals, and I have too much traction at times.

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    im have been running the maxxis high roller II and really like the aggressive tread pattern, they hook up very well. I to was a nevagal rider for years. Ill be running hr 2's from now on.

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    I was rocking the Nevegal in 2.35 on my Reign X. I decided to branch out and now I'm running the Maxxis Minion DHF 3C in a 2.5 up front and Maxxis HighRoller 3C 2.5 in the rear. I really really like this combo. In my opinion they roll faster and grip better than the Nevegals.

    I will say the Nevegals rounder profile made them a little more predictable in the corners. Even though the Minion has a slightly more square profile I'm still able to practically drag a knee before I slide out. I'll be buying my current setup again.

    My bike is setup as a gravity build but I was considering entering the next enduro race in Camas and trying the Ardent in a 2.35.

    Edit: A couple buddies just got back from Camas. They said its balls out fast and mostly downhill. I'll be keeping Minions and HighRollers on.
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    It looks like the new trails at Sandy Ridge open this weekend.

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    Looking forward to checking them out.
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    I've been riding this trail for a little while now and fallow the leader is pretty cool. I am wondering if they did something with the bolder field at the end of follow the leader. Last time I rode the trail that section was still unridable unless you are a trials rider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by finch6013 View Post
    I've been riding this trail for a little while now and fallow the leader is pretty cool. I am wondering if they did something with the bolder field at the end of follow the leader. Last time I rode the trail that section was still unridable unless you are a trials rider.
    I just got back from there and rode it for the first time. Yes, it is officially open and have to say my new favorite trail in the area, or the whole NW for that matter (minus BC). The trail was all rideable with nice, natural tech features throughout with connector flow in between to keep the speed and momentum going. Such a unique trail that challenges and flows at the same time. I feel these trails ("Follow the Leader" and "Flow Motion") captures the best parts of Sandy trails all on one continuous section while highlighting the natural features of the terrain, thus having a BC backcountry trail feel to it. I can't wait to ride it again and will be the first thing I do when I get back to town after the 4th. Triple thumbs up Ant-Farm and other trail builders! Love this trail!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgusta View Post
    I just got back from there and rode it for the first time. Yes, it is officially open and have to say my new favorite trail in the area, or the whole NW for that matter (minus BC). The trail was all rideable with nice, natural tech features throughout with connector flow in between to keep the speed and momentum going. Such a unique trail that challenges and flows at the same time. I feel these trails ("Follow the Leader" and "Flow Motion") captures the best parts of Sandy trails all on one continuous section while highlighting the natural features of the terrain, thus having a BC backcountry trail feel to it. I can't wait to ride it again and will be the first thing I do when I get back to town after the 4th. Triple thumbs up Ant-Farm and other trail builders! Love this trail!
    100% agree. Sandy Ridge is the best trail system in the PacNW. Don't waste time and gas going anywhere else. Get on it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronbo613 View Post
    100% agree. Sandy ridge is the best trail system in the pacnw. Don't waste time and gas going anywhere else. Get on it!
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    Finally got up to Sandy Ridge on Saturday to check out the new trails. I think it's safe to say that "Follow the Leader" may be the best 1.5 miles in the area (NE Oregon SW Washington). I wasn't able to clean the whole trail in one shot, but with the exception of the ultra long rocky section, I cleaned it all with multiple tries on multiple laps. That long rocky section is going to give me trouble for some time, but it kicks butt. I love how challenging this trail is with not much commitment.

    The berms on Flow Motion are huge.

    A few things that amaze me about Sandy Ridge...

    The parking lot was overflowing on Saturday with a dozen or so more cars parked at Homestead Rd, but I saw very few people on the trails. It amazes me how the trail system absorbs the number of people so well.

    The guys building the trails kick butt, "Follow the Leader" and "Flow Motion" ride like they've been there for at least a season or two. This also goes for all the trails that have been built over the years.

    The kids were out too. It's pretty cool watching them rip down the trails.

    And the Foxglove is really nice along the road right now.
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    Just a quick post on Sandy Ridge, as I rode it for the first time on Saturday with a buddy of mine. Wow! What a cool trail system! We managed to get in:

    - Rock Drop
    - Quid Pro Flow
    - Two Turntables and a Microwave
    - Flow Motion
    - Three Thirty Eight
    - Hide and Seek

    Sure, we missed a couple of the good ones like Follow the Leader, but we got a later start than we had hoped, and the heat kind of got us. But I will say, these trails are top notch and a perfect blend of man-made flow and natural, gnarly technical. Not sure which was my favorite, but I sure enjoyed the rock gardens on Two Turntables and Rock Drop, and the flow and fun of upper and lower Hide and Seek.

    There were also some really cool people there for sure. We are lucky in our sport to have awesome people to meet while out on the trails. My buddy and I hadn't ridden there before, and there were a couple of places that we had questions about what we should ride, and everyone was more than helpful in pointing us the right way and giving us a good description of what to expect on the trail. Now I just want to find a way to upgrade my Anthem 29er to something with a bit more travel!

    Loved it! Way to go BLM and IMBA! A perfect example of what can be done with the right people, orgainzations and land involved.

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    Don't bother with Flow Motion...The flow is gone from all the brake bumps. I assume this one will eventually get covered in gravel.

    Also, About halfway down Upper Hide and Seek there's a root that somebody hacked up a season or two ago. Should this be cut out or just leave it? It would have been nice if it would have been left alone. It's not a huge deal, but it's kind of a mess now.

    The dirt was rad today.
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    Personally I don't think trail features should ever be sanitized. In my opinion if there is an obstacle that gives you problems either learn how to ride it or walk your bike. There will always be a better rider out there that enjoys that particular feature. The root you are talking about was cool till it got chopped up. Even now I think it adds something to the trail. There is enough groomed super smooth trails at sandy already.

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    Don't worry, I'm not going to mess with it. It seems to be more of a spring board than a technical trail feature.
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    I wasn't saying you yourself would mess with it, I was just talking in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan View Post
    Don't bother with Flow Motion...The flow is gone from all the brake bumps...

    ...Also, About halfway down Upper Hide and Seek there's a root that somebody hacked up a season or two ago..
    its a shame that the Flow trail is basically shot now....glad I got several laps in before the demise. I said it once and I'll say it again - people should really learn how to ride and when to use the brakes.

    The chopped out root has been a pisser for sure - used to pop you up and over it no worries, now its either bunny hop it completely or thread the chop gap. Same with the ride arounds created at both the entrance to Two Turntables and the narrow tree step-up root gap climbing out of quid pro...instead of changing it and dumbing it down - how bout you stay the heck away from it until you can actually ride the feature???

    Its a double edged sword. We want and need nearby riding, its now been built and spoon fed to us. They've built the parking and facilities and encourage massive use - which its getting. Large % of begginer to rookie riders in places they have no idea how to ride - except ride the brakes and skid your way through the berms. The bikes have almost gotten too good - easy to find yourself in way over your head because the bike has no problem getting there. I don't know what the real answer is - but that place is going to need some serious full time trail maintenance help and the gravel bandaid aint gonna do it.

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    One of my buddies hit a "gravel bandaid " on Lower H&S at high speed, he's veteran rider, been on the bike 15 years, bu that gravel patch got the better of him and down he went, had to get hauled out via ambulance.

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    One of my buddies hit a "gravel bandaid " on Lower H&S at high speed, he's veteran rider, been on the bike 15 years, bu that gravel patch got the better of him and down he went, had to get hauled out via ambulance.
    I have gone down hard on the SR gravel, too. Total marbles when the trails dry out.
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    I've thought about taking a broom up there and sweeping the gravel off of the trail. Anybody interested in heading up there one day this week in the evening? Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday works for me. I have 7-8 push brooms if you don't have one.
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    I tried to argue against the use of the 3/4 minus back when they put it on. What a colossal stupid idea! I've never seen it work on a MTB trail and it will never go away.

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    Hit up some Sandy today. It's been a year since I've been up there. Destroyed the shiz outta my hand up there last year on the second rock garden on Quid. Lame, freak accident going like 3mph. bleh. Killed my whole summer. Anyhow, hit up the new trails today. Follow the Leader, hot damn, that trail is awesomely hardcore. Came close to clearing it all, but that big rock jetting out thing definitely had me stepping off. Crazy. Flow mo was quite fun too. Definitely beat to hell though. Wish I had done it a month ago! Went back up and hit up the others to come all the way back down; pretty decent condition from what I remember.

    The lot was exceedingly full with tons of overflow up and down the road. Only came across a few riders a hand full of times coming down. The place has definitely grown over the past few years.

    Another month and it's adios PNW. Definitely going to miss this trail network.
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    wow, i posted a while ago about getting that damn gravel off the trails and i got blasted for it. Glad to see others feel the same way about that crap.

    I think 90% of all trails in area are blown out. Dosent matter if there are beginner riders riding the trails or not. there is no moisture.

    Cant WAIT to see how destroyed everything gets after the enduro. anyone want to take a bet up to see if the OES does any trail work when the rain comes back. I am taking the no side. Or i would love to hear that they donated enough to cover the cost of the repairs to ALL the trail networks that they bomb.

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    Man, I understand why they put down the gravel, but I have nearly lost my a$$ a few times on Lower Hide and Seek this summer. Maybe it will get better this winter as it continues to get pushed into the dirt. I don't want to dis the great work that is done up there, but the gravel makes for a sketchy run.
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    I only dis the complete lack of riding skill. Flow Motion did not last three weeks... THREE WEEKS! Who brakes in the middle of a giant berm? I thought the whole "berm" thing was to alleviate all the trouble that folks have cornering. The jump and brake slam turn may look cool on Pinkbike, but those guys are actually going fast. That "method" just destroys all the hard work that has been put in up there. Lot's of suspension and 8" rotors won't ride the bike for anyone. I am not a lover of gravel, but when it starts pouring for several months I will not be cursing it either. Moisture will benefit the trails for sure, but I can gaurantee that all of the trails in our region are not blown out. We could not have had better trail conditions yesterday in the Gifford Pinchot... before and after the little bit of rain.
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    It could rain year round & the 3/4 minus would never "bed in" PERIOD!! You have a 170# mountain biker with a 3inch tire versus a 1/2 inch rock. The tire will win and the rock becomes dislodged 100% of the time. The stuff never goes away. It will forever build up at the bottom of any steeper grade and be dangerous until it's completely gone. Any body that has ever dealt with gravel on any mountain bike trail with a grade over 10% knows this all to well. Sorry to beat a dead horse here guys but the use of 3/4 minus is just beyond understanding. Also a little taken aback at the brake bumps, the shear # of them and really odd places they are showing up. I can understand inexperience though....

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    I'm sure the gravel will always be a problem, but earlier in the year it didn't seem to bad, and with the recent rain, Lower H&S seemed to be a little better on Saturday. Or maybe I'm just getting used to surfing on gravel at high speeds.

    Anyway, I finally cleaned Flow Motion top to bottom in one shot with no dabs. I was pretty stoked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poppa#1 View Post
    I only dis the complete lack of riding skill. Flow Motion did not last three weeks... THREE WEEKS! Who brakes in the middle of a giant berm? I thought the whole "berm" thing was to alleviate all the trouble that folks have cornering. The jump and brake slam turn may look cool on Pinkbike, but those guys are actually going fast. That "method" just destroys all the hard work that has been put in up there. Lot's of suspension and 8" rotors won't ride the bike for anyone. I am not a lover of gravel, but when it starts pouring for several months I will not be cursing it either. Moisture will benefit the trails for sure, but I can gaurantee that all of the trails in our region are not blown out. We could not have had better trail conditions yesterday in the Gifford Pinchot... before and after the little bit of rain.
    Here, here Poppa on pretty good trail conditions for this time of year at many other places/rides as the masses chew up lower FM and lower HnS. I rode Sandy tonight and was able to find some good riding trails. This time last year, the trails were in much worse shape. Gravel is not that big of deal there, and welcomed in those sections during the wet season as stated. Folks just got to learn to hold those corners and run grippy tires this time of year.
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    Bad@$$ OHM! That is super. Were you runnin' the HT or suspension?
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    Cant WAIT to see how destroyed everything gets after the enduro. anyone want to take a bet up to see if the OES does any trail work when the rain comes back. I am taking the no side. Or i would love to hear that they donated enough to cover the cost of the repairs to ALL the trail networks that they bomb.

    I think a lot of riders in OR would love to hear the answer to this question. I know that every year after the HR enduro Mitchell ridge gets totally blown out right before and after the race and I've never heard of the OE guys getting back up to fix the shit they tore up. As these races get bigger and bigger, it seems like they are attracting more and more out of towners, who come, shred, and leave. I'd love to hear the results of a poll of LOCAL riders to see who even want the races in the first place. Maybe it's more than I think, but I do know that I hear a lot more grumbling than praise as the years go on in the group that I ride with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poppa#1 View Post
    Bad@$$ OHM! That is super. Were you runnin' the HT or suspension?
    Yep, on the FS...Without a dropper post with the seatpost fully extended (no quick release collar), clipless pedals and a triple chainring. On the hardtail I have a hard time keeping momentum to clean everything continuously.

    And in full disclosure....I didn't ride the big diving board rock drop on the upper trail. Iím a chicken when it comes to big drops, or small drops for that matter.
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    Thanks for the response. I was stoked for you. I have a QR on the Yeti, but I never stop to use it. BTW, nothing wrong with chicken sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfield View Post
    I think a lot of riders in OR would love to hear the answer to this question. I know that every year after the HR enduro Mitchell ridge gets totally blown out right before and after the race and I've never heard of the OE guys getting back up to fix the shit they tore up. As these races get bigger and bigger, it seems like they are attracting more and more out of towners, who come, shred, and leave. I'd love to hear the results of a poll of LOCAL riders to see who even want the races in the first place. Maybe it's more than I think, but I do know that I hear a lot more grumbling than praise as the years go on in the group that I ride with.
    The last couple of years the BLM has given the trails some love prior to the enduro events. They have ended up in better shape than before. The gravel everyone b!tches about gets removed for example. I am not sure if the organizer is involved or not.

    Who am I to complain if the land managers chooses to support that specific use?
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    Quote Originally Posted by poppa#1 View Post
    Thanks for the response. I was stoked for you. I have a QR on the Yeti, but I never stop to use it. BTW, nothing wrong with chicken sometimes.
    After riding through the middle section with the big rock rollovers, I thought, "Ah Shit, now I have to clean that loose rocky section". There will be a dropper post in my future, not sure which one though. I've been waiting for something that acyually seems reliable.


    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Giggity View Post
    The last couple of years the BLM has given the trails some love prior to the enduro events. They have ended up in better shape than before. The gravel everyone b!tches about gets removed for example. I am not sure if the organizer is involved or not.

    Who am I to complain if the land managers chooses to support that specific use?
    Aren't we the land owners? I'm not a huge fan, but last year the trails at Sandy Ridge did get some love after the event, not sure who did it though, so I can't complain to much.
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    Awesome, let's video the "race" and ***** slap everyone who brakes in the middle of a berm. At the very least they should be teased. There was no way the trails were in better shape after last years "race". The place was pummeled before the "race" and there was zero improvement 'til the rain started. I think that local shops should consider sponsoring specific trails to maintain. OHM, if you read this I am on the same page in regards to the dropper. I have SEVERAL friends who think that I am nuts for missing out on ye olde seat dropper. FTL may have changed my tune...
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    For the SR Enduro. Oregon Enduro Series sponsored a work party and even took those interested out for some grub afterward. Not sure what kind of input they have for trail repair otherwise.

    As to the conditions of the trails, it is up to us to show up at the spring and fall work parties to put in the effort. Some of the work parties are well planned, some begin with the question "What do you all want to work on today?" I think that is cool that the BLM will listen to the riders that show up for work days. One of the wet days this spring, everyone worked on cleaning drains because we could see the standing water. They are even ok with experienced workers taking on specific projects with a small group if they feel like it.

    I have been to work parties with as few as 10 people and a couple around 40+. Keep an eye on NWTA's site for work event dates.
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    Hi, i live near SR and ride there quite a lot. This is the first year since SR was started that the IMBA guys are not building trail-seems wierd not being able to hear a dozer in the woods and the excitement that a new cool trail was coming. I dont even see the Ant Farm crew out working. I wonder if the funding for this system has dried up? Last time i talked to the trail guys was right when they were finishing up Flow Motion and they talked a little about a possible trail extension to the bottom coming off of TTT. That would be RAD!

    Im all for having the enduro series here even though i dont compete in it....fun to hike up with fam to watch. I do wish that they would come back and do some repair afterwords. This year has had the least amount of trail work parties since system was started.

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    Hey Guys,

    I'm going to be in town and Ride Sandy ridge next weekend. Can you guys give me some thoughts on the following riding plan? I'm trying to maximize my descending time while i'm there.

    Here's what I was thinking:
    Rock Drop
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    Two Turntables
    Hide and Seek (only to the cutoff and back up to the top)
    Follow the Leader
    Flow Motion
    Hide and Seek to the bottom

    Assuming an intermediate/advanced rider, how long do you think that would take? Think that would be a good 5-6 hour day with a lunch break before Follow the leader? I'm just basing that on what ive see on YouTube for those trails and about 40mins on Homestead Road.

    any help is appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jojotherider View Post
    Hey Guys,

    I'm going to be in town and Ride Sandy ridge next weekend. Can you guys give me some thoughts on the following riding plan? I'm trying to maximize my descending time while i'm there.

    Here's what I was thinking:
    Rock Drop
    Quid Pro Flow
    338
    Two Turntables
    Hide and Seek (only to the cutoff and back up to the top)
    Follow the Leader
    Flow Motion
    Hide and Seek to the bottom

    Assuming an intermediate/advanced rider, how long do you think that would take? Think that would be a good 5-6 hour day with a lunch break before Follow the leader? I'm just basing that on what ive see on YouTube for those trails and about 40mins on Homestead Road.

    any help is appreciated.

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    This would take me only 1.5 hrs to ride by myself or 2hrs if really taking my time or with someone else. I would recommend going to very top and riding backside of Communication Breakdown as well and upper HnS too which can extend the ride some. Even though sounds like a lot of different trails to ride, most are only .75-1 mile in length and the road climb up from mid-way point doesn't take that long to top as well (about 15 min). My preferred route is to climb to very top of CB (great view and highest point of trails), hit CB down to QPF, QPF to 338, 338 to Two Turntables to bridge mid-way Hide and Seek, back up road to Follow the Leader/Flow Motion, up Rd again to Rock Drop/338 jump line to upper Hide and Seek to lower to TNT/Little Monkey to car. This allows me to hit all the trails and takes about 2.5hrs or riding time for me, 3hrs total time with breaks.
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    Thanks. I'm glad I asked in this thread. Seems like there's already a lot of good info out there already, but it always helps to get more info from the people that have been there. I'm glad to hear they're shorter trails than I thought so I can check out more of them.

    Where are TNT and Little Monkey? I've only seen the trail map on the nw-trails wiki and those two are listed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jojotherider View Post
    Thanks. I'm glad I asked in this thread. Seems like there's already a lot of good info out there already, but it always helps to get more info from the people that have been there. I'm glad to hear they're shorter trails than I thought so I can check out more of them.

    Where are TNT and Little Monkey? I've only seen the trail map on the nw-trails wiki and those two are listed.
    No prob, happy I can help.

    TNT/LM are trails in the area that are not technically part of the Sandy Ridge trail network due to being on county land, not BLM. The trail entrance is quite visible 1 mile up from gate on right side of road that you climb up to top (Homstead Rd 14) that starts with a good size table jump, then you can go immediate left on TNT (small gap jumps and burms) or right on Little Monkey that is more intermediate with no gaps and some table hits. Even though TNT/LM aren't part of the system but in same area, I think are some of the funnest, if not the funnest line on the hill (1-mile in length back to lower gate). But, all the trails are great there with their own different features/personalities. Follow the Leader is the most technically demanding trail (double black diamond rating) and is great for testing the bike handling skills and maintaining flow thru tricky, off-camber steep and rocky situations. I rode it yesterday amidst the wet conditions for the little added challenge and was surprised I made it thru the whole thing without dabbing on my last one thru after I went head on into tree after trying to jump off tricky, off camber-boulder at start of descent about mid-way thru trail A bit of sprained thumb today, but still lots of fun.
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    Jgusta's ride route is exactly how I like to ride when I feel up to doing all the trails. Jgusta is an animal on a bike, most people would take about 3.5 hrs to do that if you are taking breaks. I can do that route in 2.5 hrs but I'm riding at a quick pace for me. either way you can explore the entire trail system with the amount of time you have.

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    Sandy Ridge

    FWIW Ant farm was up there working on flow motion last week. I think 5-6 guys mid day on the 19th.
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    Quote Originally Posted by B42 View Post
    FWIW Ant farm was up there working on flow motion last week. I think 5-6 guys mid day on the 19th.
    Man...cheers to them! They did an awesome job sculpting the trails up. Sandy rode about the best it ever has last week.
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    Are you reporting that Flow Motion is in good shape? I am curious.
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    Who is Ant farm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by poppa#1 View Post
    Are you reporting that Flow Motion is in good shape? I am curious.
    Yep, FlowMo was much better when I rode it last Friday from the work they did (AntFarm) during the week. They closed it during the NWTA shuttle fest on Sunday due to having a lot of fresh repair and heavy rain I bet made it much softer as well. Probably best to stay off it until it has dried out a bit.
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    Yo Animal Big Thanks and great report that it was closed on shuttle day too. I will wait 'til it is time. Missed you last weekend!
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