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    OBRA Sucks!! Again!!

    Totally off topic - but thought I'd vent a little here with hopes that
    a few of you would contact OBRA and chime in as well.
    Latest brilliant move is to bar Astana from participating in the
    Cascade Classic. Yes, its a road race for those of us that are dirt
    lovers. Happens over in Bend every year and has a really high level of
    competition. OBRA has decided to take the side of politics in this
    case and deny access to Astana. Here is the quote:
    "One of my first directives is to build OBRA into an organizing
    committee on par with the greatest race organizers in the world,"
    Sugahara said. "And that means falling in line with ASO and RCS. That
    means Astana riders will not be welcome to compete at the Cascade
    Classic, the Mt. Hood Classic, our Alpenrose Thursday night velodrome
    series, or any other OBRA events in 2008. Depending on the team's
    performances, we will reconsider our position in 2009."
    So Kenji has just kissed a huge amount of dollars away from the State.
    Denied fans from seeing a high level of racer very close to where we
    live. His first directive should be to to encourage cycling in the
    State and raise the level of competition. Call Medalist Sports and ask
    them in any of the Astana team members failed a drug test while
    participating in the Tour of California. This is more relevant than
    the political in fighting that is taking place in the European
    peloton. Chris Horner is the one of the cleanest riders in the
    peloton. He's a Bend resident. What is Kenji thinking?

    If any of you feel a similar sentiment, please send an email to
    kenji@.... Personally, I'd really enjoy watching the racing at
    the Cascade Classic with Astana present. Otherwise it back to Versus
    for a very poor showing of the Tour de France.
    Steve Strickland

    Contact can be made at kenji@obra.org

    Here's my letter:

    Kenji,

    You got to be kidding with your decision to bar Astana from participating in the Cascade Classic. Chris Horner is the one of the cleanest riders in the peloton. Your first directive should be to encourage cycling in the State and raise the level of competition. Call Medalist Sports and ask them in any of the Astana team members failed a drug test while participating in the Tour of California. This is more relevant than the political in-fighting that is taking place in the European peloton.

    Do you care about bringing the highest level of racing possible to Oregon? Do you care about bringing additional dollars to the communities that are supporting OBRA races? Do you care at all about the state of cycling on an international and domestic level?

    Your decision process is either seriously flawed or you don't have the time to consider everything that needs to be thought out before making a decision. If you just want to follow in step with an organization why not follow the UCI which has granted a racing license to Astana? Again, I think the main point that needs to be remembered is that none of the current rider on Astana has ever tested positive in or out of competition.

    Please reconsider your flawed decision. I'd like to hear back from you immediately to understand your side. As an OBRA member I care about the future of cycling and racing not only in Oregon but worldwide as well. Your decision does not promote cycling in our great state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockhoundmtb
    Totally off topic - but thought I'd vent a little here with hopes that
    a few of you would contact OBRA and chime in as well.
    Latest brilliant move is to bar Astana from participating in the
    Cascade Classic. Yes, its a road race for those of us that are dirt
    lovers. Happens over in Bend every year and has a really high level of
    competition. OBRA has decided to take the side of politics in this
    case and deny access to Astana. Here is the quote:
    "One of my first directives is to build OBRA into an organizing
    committee on par with the greatest race organizers in the world,"
    Sugahara said. "And that means falling in line with ASO and RCS. That
    means Astana riders will not be welcome to compete at the Cascade
    Classic, the Mt. Hood Classic, our Alpenrose Thursday night velodrome
    series, or any other OBRA events in 2008. Depending on the team's
    performances, we will reconsider our position in 2009."
    So Kenji has just kissed a huge amount of dollars away from the State.
    Denied fans from seeing a high level of racer very close to where we
    live. His first directive should be to to encourage cycling in the
    State and raise the level of competition. Call Medalist Sports and ask
    them in any of the Astana team members failed a drug test while
    participating in the Tour of California. This is more relevant than
    the political in fighting that is taking place in the European
    peloton. Chris Horner is the one of the cleanest riders in the
    peloton. He's a Bend resident. What is Kenji thinking?

    If any of you feel a similar sentiment, please send an email to
    kenji@.... Personally, I'd really enjoy watching the racing at
    the Cascade Classic with Astana present. Otherwise it back to Versus
    for a very poor showing of the Tour de France.
    Steve Strickland

    Contact can be made at kenji@obra.org

    Here's my letter:

    Kenji,

    You got to be kidding with your decision to bar Astana from participating in the Cascade Classic. Chris Horner is the one of the cleanest riders in the peloton. Your first directive should be to encourage cycling in the State and raise the level of competition. Call Medalist Sports and ask them in any of the Astana team members failed a drug test while participating in the Tour of California. This is more relevant than the political in-fighting that is taking place in the European peloton.

    Do you care about bringing the highest level of racing possible to Oregon? Do you care about bringing additional dollars to the communities that are supporting OBRA races? Do you care at all about the state of cycling on an international and domestic level?

    Your decision process is either seriously flawed or you don't have the time to consider everything that needs to be thought out before making a decision. If you just want to follow in step with an organization why not follow the UCI which has granted a racing license to Astana? Again, I think the main point that needs to be remembered is that none of the current rider on Astana has ever tested positive in or out of competition.

    Please reconsider your flawed decision. I'd like to hear back from you immediately to understand your side. As an OBRA member I care about the future of cycling and racing not only in Oregon but worldwide as well. Your decision does not promote cycling in our great state.

    You did notice that Velonews posted that on April 1st, didn't you????



    You might want to read the other article about April Fools Day stories on their site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tberg
    You did notice that Velonews posted that on April 1st, didn't you????



    You might want to read the other article about April Fools Day stories on their site.

    Too funny. Steve never posts, so he really must have been upset about this notice. Hopefully, you're right about April Fools.
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    Oops!

    Kenji,
    Yes, my fault. I never saw the article. It was actually forwarded to me from my dad. A non-cyclist living in Central Oregon that thought it was weird that the State wouldn't want all the extra dollars that would come along with Astana's inclusion. He followed the Tour of California and was really surprised when they reported the money people spent for lodging, food and transportation. Sorry. Should have done some additional checking before jumping in.

    Thank you for your gracious reply.

    Happy Cycling,

    Steve Strickland

    T. Kenji Sugahara wrote:
    > Steve!!!
    >
    > Man, I'm still getting e-mails about this. That was the Velonews April Fools edition.
    >
    > Hope all is well down in Eugene!
    >
    > T. Kenji Sugahara
    > Executive Director
    > Oregon Bicycle Racing Association 503-302-4935

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    I (initially) fell for those articles too. Pretty well written. I was incensed about the Astana thing. I was facinated by the carbon fiber wrap system (peel and stick) that would transform an old aluminum frame into a racing thoroughbred and actually reduce the weight of the frame!! Carpenter and Phinney are starting an egg and sperm bank. OJ Simpson becoming the new spokesman for Rock Racing. Race radio's being banned. Good stuff.
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    So you are talking about road riding on a mountain biking website?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockhoundmtb
    Kenji,
    Yes, my fault. I never saw the article. It was actually forwarded to me from my dad. A non-cyclist living in Central Oregon that thought it was weird that the State wouldn't want all the extra dollars that would come along with Astana's inclusion. He followed the Tour of California and was really surprised when they reported the money people spent for lodging, food and transportation. Sorry. Should have done some additional checking before jumping in.

    Thank you for your gracious reply.

    Happy Cycling,

    Steve Strickland

    T. Kenji Sugahara wrote:
    > Steve!!!
    >
    > Man, I'm still getting e-mails about this. That was the Velonews April Fools edition.
    >
    > Hope all is well down in Eugene!
    >
    > T. Kenji Sugahara
    > Executive Director
    > Oregon Bicycle Racing Association 503-302-4935
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    Rocky my boy I *fully* support you in flying off the handle and calling them out whilst you were ill informed! Lawd knows I've ate my share of poop sandwhiches. I feel your pain.

    By the way, some jackass, supposedly, living in OR, naming itself after a Canadian bike company which is in turn named after someplace in HI who rides a bike named after a mythical creature by a company who makes their bikes in Taiwan *and* who lists their build in their sig and who too rarely contributes (in a good way) while taking up free bandwidth has an opinion everyone...listen up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kona0197
    So you are talking about road riding on a mountain biking website?
    If you'd like someone to pull up every post you made that had nothing to do with mtbing and throw it in your face, just keep on yapping. But quite frankly, you're not worth the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImaKlyde
    By the way, some jackass, supposedly, living in OR, naming itself after a Canadian bike company which is in turn named after someplace in HI who rides a bike named after a mythical creature by a company who makes their bikes in Taiwan *and* who lists their build in their sig and who too rarely contributes (in a good way) while taking up free bandwidth has an opinion everyone...listen up.
    I don't think said jackass will comprehend aforementioned description.

    Brock on, dude -- see you for trailwork, eh?

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    Yep

    Quote Originally Posted by Albee
    Brock on, dude -- see you for trailwork, eh?

    Albee
    I'm only able to on Sunday 'cuz I have to work on Saturday this week but I will be there!

    Brock...
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    Disciples Of Dirt, come ride with us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cazloco
    If you'd like someone to pull up every post you made that had nothing to do with mtbing and throw it in your face, just keep on yapping. But quite frankly, you're not worth the time.

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