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    Looking to trade frames...

    Sorry for the trading thread yet again. It seems it will cost me a good sum of money to upgrade the rear shock to something that will support my clydesdale weight so instead I thought I would if anyone would want to trade.

    I'm looking for a lightly used 17 to 18 inch hardtail with disc mounts.

    The frame I have is a '01 KHS FXT Pro. It has a Romic rear shock. I believe it has 100mm of travel. 500 pound spring. Rebound and compression knobs. Disc only on the frame.

    PM if interested. Thanks.

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    Not looking to be a d!ck, I actually love big doods being on bikes (being larger than the average dood myself of course...)...but a "better" shock won't solve whatever problem you're having if the problem is weight.

    Romic's can be tuned. Is your spring-rate proper for that bike and your pounds? What's the leverage ratio?

    Having said that...there seems to always be frames on craigslist down here for super cheap. Too bad a 22" frame wouldn't suit you. I'd give it to you just so you could have a happy ride.

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    I'm not sure what the leverage ratio is. I know it is a 500 pound spring with a 1.5 inch stroke. I have the preload screwed all the way in and still only get about 1 inch out of 4.5 in the rear. My riding weight is 230 give or take a few.

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    Is that the only rate spring you've had on that bike? I don't know the bike...but if it is in fact a 1.5" stroke and yields 4.5" of travel...then you have a relative ratio of 3:1 (let's not get into how that can be different at different points in the travel right now...please). When I had a 3:1 ratio on a bike I ran an 800lb spring (I'm 265ish). Now one of my squish's is 2.66:1 and I run a 700 (with a lot of pre-load). Also, having the valving and oil "right" for you and the bike *and* how you ride makes a world of difference.

    Check craigslist if you have not. It's gonna be tough to find someone wanting to swap for a nine year old squish. Good luck.

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    Yes it's the only spring I've had on the bike due to the fact 1.5 inch stroke springs are impossible to find now. I don't know how to check the oil or change the oil. I have the rebound set 2 clicks out from full on fast and the compression is set in the middle.

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    I've had Pohl Spring works do two things for me before and they were excellent to deal with (look them up) and Universal Cycles has 2" springs and you might be able to use one. Plus...if you know anyone at a machine shop (or if you yourself are a good metal worker) you can modify a longer spring to work. I've done it a few times in the fat boy quest to get the boingers just right. Anyway...just a thought.

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    I'm going to see if a 650 pound spring will help. Would going for a 2 inch stroke be better? I hope the Manitou springs have a big enough inner diameter to fit the Romic.
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    You shouldn't change the overall length of the shock or stroke since it will change the geometry and ride characteristics of the bike and sometimes...it just won't really "work." Having said that...some of us "homers" have done a lot of experiments and there's a lot of historical BS about it on the Turner forum. But really, the 2" spring should fit your rig. If it doesn't you can modify it.

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    Romic is still around and still servicing their shocks: $45 for a rebuild is what I heard recently (pretty good deal IMO). Tuning the shock will not fix the problem having the wrong coil weight to begin with, but they might be worth a call to get some advice on which one you should be running, and general setup tips. Perhaps they have a few coils laying around as well.

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    I posted a thread to find romic spring and people came out of the woodworks. I had a few offers that if I paid shipping they would send it just to get the springs out of their garage.

    Wanted ads are free to post, then I linked it to the shocks and suspension forum.

    Larry also had a few, just not the weight I needed, but he did have 1.5. For the record a vivid spring fits, but a 2.0 vivid was 3/4 of a an inch longer than a romic 2.0

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    Romic also has springs, but they want $45

    Anybody have a Romic spring?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kona0197
    I'm not sure what the leverage ratio is. I know it is a 500 pound spring with a 1.5 inch stroke. I have the preload screwed all the way in and still only get about 1 inch out of 4.5 in the rear. My riding weight is 230 give or take a few.

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    Are you talking 1" of sag or total travel. If you are only getting 1" of total travel with that spring weight there is something very wrong with your shock or frame.
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    I am only getting one inch of travel while riding the bike. It's nothing new. Every cross country full suspension bike I have ridden does the same thing. I'm a heavy guy. he shock is fine and so is the frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kona0197
    I am only getting one inch of travel while riding the bike. It's nothing new. Every cross country full suspension bike I have ridden does the same thing. I'm a heavy guy. he shock is fine and so is the frame.
    Are you measuring rear wheel movement or stroke at the shock? One inch at the rear wheel would be 1/3 of an inch at the shock, assuming a linear rate.

    If the shock is fine and so is the frame, then why did you first say the shock doesn't support your weight? Depending how I interpret your post, you are either barely getting any travel at all, or you are getting way too much sag and you never hit anything hard enough to bottom it out.

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    I am measuring the shock movement. I said the shock doesn't support my weight because the shock is only giving one inch of movement while riding. There is hardly any movement from the rear going over obstacles. The shock's preload is screwed all the way in. When I sit on the bike the shock compresses to the point where the coils are almost touching each other. There is not enough resistance from the spring to offset my weight and allow more than and inch or less of shock stroke. This is why I was looking into a stiffer spring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kona0197
    I am measuring the shock movement. I said the shock doesn't support my weight because the shock is only giving one inch of movement while riding. There is hardly any movement from the rear going over obstacles. The shock's preload is screwed all the way in. When I sit on the bike the shock compresses to the point where the coils are almost touching each other. There is not enough resistance from the spring to offset my weight and allow more than and inch or less of shock stroke. This is why I was looking into a stiffer spring.
    Yeah, you definitely need a stiffer spring!!!! If you need to use more than a couple of turns on the preload collar to set the sag, that is an indication that you need a heavier coil. For example I think Fox recommends 3 turns at the most. Be careful, if that coil binds up before full compression you can tear the preload threads off the damper body....

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    Thanks for the advice.
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    Consider it.

    I have a brand new Moots YBB 29er frame. Any thoughts

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    4 inches wheel travel from a 1.5 inch stroke shock? I set my Pipleline in that mode for the climbs, I run a 900lb spring on it with a progressive shock.

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    Yeah it says 500x1.5 on the coil. The eye to eye length is 6.5 inches.

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