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    Knebal Springs: sweet!

    My friend Tim and I hauled ourselves out to Knebal Springs yesterday, since Tim is about to move 5 hours north and have to suffer WA riding. (LOL)

    Since it looks like it might snow up there today, I think we timed it just right!

    Here's the sign at the campground:


    Here's Tim as we are unpacking:


    Here's a self-portrait:


    We started on the road to get warmed up. Here's Tim:


    A few minutes into the ride we got our first good view of Mt. Hood:


    A couple of other Snowy Peaks are visible in the background here (my iPhone sucks as a camera ;-)):


    Tim again, a little closer to the Hood:


    And a shot of "Low Point Bridge", just before the climb back to Knebal Springs Campground:


    Tim waiting for me to get my arse up the trail and quit taking pictures:


    And, lastly, a view east. If you zoom in, you can see desert on the horizon. The view of green vs. brown here is striking:


    I might post up a view of the Google Earth track from our ride later, time permitting ...

    Enjoy!
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    Nice pics, Lee. Did you guys get to Lewis River a few weeks ago? Ron & I did another expedition/exploration ride on Saturday (about 29 miles & 4500 feet of elevation gain). What are the chances of you getting back out here for an Old Man Pass ride in the next week or 2? It's getting cold & the rain will get going soon too, but we should be able to pull off a nice ride & then finish at Walking Man Brewery.

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    Yep, no Old Man Pass ride yet this year.
    Local riding is a pretty good workout as well.

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    That's Larry Heckler! So he's moving north... maybe that's why he just unsubscribed from the Disciples of Dirt's listserve today... hate to see him go... Lee, you'll make sure Tim comes to Fall Barbie Camp, won't you?

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    Man, I've only ridden a short leg of that trail so far this year, I hope I get the chance to ride the whole thing again soon.
    Thanks for the pics!

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    Riding in Washington isn't all that bad.

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    More Data, please ...

    Here's some more data from my Garmin GPS ...

    Google-Earth view of the ride:


    Ascent (software for Mac) view of the ride:


    And the Ascent elevation profile:
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    Sad update

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparticus
    That's Larry Heckler! So he's moving north... maybe that's why he just unsubscribed from the Disciples of Dirt's listserve today... hate to see him go... Lee, you'll make sure Tim comes to Fall Barbie Camp, won't you?

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    Davey: Sorry to say I could not talk him into it. And that was about the only way I was going to make it, since I don't particularly appreciate camping in the cold enough to drive down there alone. (I'm a major wussy w/r/t cold-weather camping, but that's another thread.)

    I have been riding a bunch with Larry (LOL), and my wife has been filling him up with home-cooked meals, but he's still determined to move where's there's even more rain than in OR!
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    I like that Google Earth map. Nice perspective.
    Lots of good riding in that part of the Mt. Hood National Forest.

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    Dang... what an awesome looking ride. When ya goin' again? I wanna tag along...

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    Dude!

    Quote Originally Posted by gorgedon
    Nice pics, Lee. Did you guys get to Lewis River a few weeks ago? Ron & I did another expedition/exploration ride on Saturday (about 29 miles & 4500 feet of elevation gain). What are the chances of you getting back out here for an Old Man Pass ride in the next week or 2? It's getting cold & the rain will get going soon too, but we should be able to pull off a nice ride & then finish at Walking Man Brewery.
    Don: I felt guilty 'cause I didn't call you or Ron on this one -- it was kind of a last-minute idea amidst much beer on my part the night before. (Tim and I had ridden Hagg Lake on Saturday, and I wanted more riding with him before he moves!)

    I think chances might be good for a ride. The weather looks ok this weekend, and the only thing I have planned is some Thank-You-BBQ in Tillamook Forest on Saturday afternoon. Doing anything Sunday?
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    Sunday looks like the best weather day this weekend so that's good. I need to check my social calendar (to-do list of home & garden projects) but I think Sunday is pretty open. I have to be back by 5pm for the Chargers/Steelers game but the good news is we can watch it at a local place with a big screen & Walking Man beer.

    Anybody else want in? Maybe Lee can carpool with someone.

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    Hey Lee,

    What kind of GPS do you use? I'm thinking of picking one up.

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    i've rode up there a few times and it is really nice. depending on what the weather does these next few days, i may be planning a trip to do the kneble loop on sunday. if it stops snowing, i would really like to ride ape canyon/plains one last time this year. we'll see.

    can i tag along as well if the kneble thing goes on? i would have a pre-ride french press and a post-ride cooler
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    Nice presentation on the Google earth and gps stuff. As others have said....that looks like a great ride, and can I tag along next time? Safety-breaks all around!!

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    Yeah, way cool. I guess I should get my arse out of the dark ages and get on the gps train . . .

    Looks like you guys did the Eightmile Creek-Knebal Springs figure eight. That's a great looper!

    If you Eugene/Bend folk get up here before the snow flies, let us know, there's some great stuff up in there.

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    i may be planning a trip to do the kneble loop on sunday.
    Might be a little snow to 5000' on Saturday, it will be nippy so be prepared.

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    Good job! Ge305

    Quote Originally Posted by theeric
    Hey Lee,

    What kind of GPS do you use? I'm thinking of picking one up.

    Thanks
    It's a Garmin Edge 305, with Heart Rate. I have the cadance attachment, as well, but I use that when riding the road bike. The 305 supports up to 3 bikes. I have it mounted on my stem on each bike.

    I use Ascent software on my Apple laptop (since I refuse to own any Pee Cees).
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    ... and if we just ... Perhaps no, perhaps yes ...

    Quote Originally Posted by BIGfatED
    Nice presentation on the Google earth and gps stuff. As others have said....that looks like a great ride, and can I tag along next time? Safety-breaks all around!!
    As mentioned elsewhere, it may be kind of nippy up there this weekend. But I'm thinking of riding Sunday in WA. All I know is good folks, good riding, and it ends at a brewery. Safety first!
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    Nice LeeMan,

    It's been years since I last rode Knebal, it was always a fun loop I really need to get back over that way again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snake Muesl
    Yeah, way cool. I guess I should get my arse out of the dark ages and get on the gps train . . .

    Looks like you guys did the Eightmile Creek-Knebal Springs figure eight. That's a great looper!

    If you Eugene/Bend folk get up here before the snow flies, let us know, there's some great stuff up in there.

    -Charlie
    Last weekend I did Eightmile-Knebal-450 to Lookout Mountain, then back down. Awesome ride. Spectacular views.

    And yes, the snow is coming fast. I could have sworn I got hit with some snow/sleet when I was making my way up to Family Man at Post tonight. And I heard that some places as low as 4500' got dusted pretty good last night, up on the mountain.

    I need to get a GPS and start making some maps of the more XC friendly loops at Syncline; there's too much there that I've ridden once or twice, but couldn't find my way back to again.

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    You missed the Dakine trail! It sure beats the boring road climb to the KS TH. Did you return to Knebal Spring CG via the Bottle Prairie trail? We rode Bottle P. earlier this month, a bit dusty but still a hoot.

    Has anyone ridden Cooks Meadow trail to High Prairie this year? The FS and some volunteers did some major re-routes on the initial fall-line climb off of Hwy44 last year and this summer.

    Lee Man, Your backyard trails were in perfect shape last weekend, cool temps and nice tacky trail conditions on Gales, Historic and Storey Burn........one of my favs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon
    Nice LeeMan,

    It's been years since I last rode Knebal, it was always a fun loop I really need to get back over that way again.

    there is single track from the horse camp so there is no longer the road slog! great trail.

    i'm heading up sunday morning. if you smell coffee in the p lot, come say hi and get a cup.
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    Well - I can tell you all, that the day to be up there was absolutely Friday!!! Wife and I were up there, trail was in excellent condition...skis were as blue bird as they come...temp was about 45/50! She on a new bike - All the worries in life stayed at bay for several hours. With that said - there might be some good rain up there this morning, as it has been raining here in HR since the wee hours. Enjoy the ride if you all make it up - still one of my favorite trails up on Hood! Whooot Whooot! If for some reason you all don't make it up today, and would be thinking of getting up in the near future - I'd be in to catching up also for a loop!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OffRoadRoadie
    Has anyone ridden Cooks Meadow trail to High Prairie this year? The FS and some volunteers did some major re-routes on the initial fall-line climb off of Hwy44 last year and this summer.
    Yes! Rode it 8/8. It was still a little soft climbing the lower switchbacks, and maybe about a third of the way up there was a huge tree across the trail, but sure beat the gravel road! A big "thank you" to the FS and volunteers for the hard work! Looks like the bridge may be finished soon too.

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    Yeah it's soft, especially with the light snow covering the trail. Did the wasps nail you on Cook's Meadows trail? The section of trail with 20-25 flags marking the new trail along a old down tree has a nasty wasp nest, three us got nailed yesterday (10-4-09) so be careful. I love the reroute, but wouldn't it be cool if the Forest Service extended the trail to High Prairie and completely avoided the gravel road?

    It was weird day on the mountain. We started at the Surveyor's Ridge trail head under the power lines with cool temps, semi-cloudy skies and dusty trail conditions but the temps started falling and by the time we reach the double track on SR it was snowing lightly. The flakes got bigger and it started to stick at the Hwy44 crossing, up Cook's Meadows trail it was 1/4 to 1 inch deep but still ride-able (who would think wasps would be active with near freezing temps and snow falling). We skipped the final gravel road climb to High P. and dropped back down to the SR /Hwy44 TH when the hail hit us (beats freezing rain). The skies cleared and the little climbs on SR warmed us up enough to shed our rain jackets and blast the final plunge to the powerlines TH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OffRoadRoadie
    Yeah it's soft, especially with the light snow covering the trail. Did the wasps nail you on Cook's Meadows trail? The section of trail with 20-25 flags marking the new trail along a old down tree has a nasty wasp nest, three us got nail yesterday (10-4-09) so be careful.
    Wasps in this tree??
    DSC00197(1).JPG

    I don't recall any flags around it, but i'm sure I would remember angry wasps!! Luckily, we did not encounter any!

    Sounds like you had a good ride, wish I could have been there!

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    Not that tree. It was smaller dead tree and about 1-1.5 miles up the trail from Hwy 44.

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    Sunday Knebal

    I usually ride that network at least once a season, but I can't recall riding there yet. A kick azz ride, coffee to start and beer to finish...what more could you ask for? I'm game for a Sunday ride! Anyone know their schedule yet? Start/meeting time. Location?

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    It's Friday for me

    I'm scheduled to work.
    But not tomorrow. Looking to maybe head out to the Hood and do a big ride including Knebal Springs, probably Lookout Mtn, maybe Fifteen Mile Creek too.

    Long day in the saddle, maybe 40-50 miles at a moderate pace: any takers?
    Leave NEPO at 7 or 8am.

    Quote Originally Posted by dahoos
    I usually ride that network at least once a season, but I can't recall riding there yet. A kick azz ride, coffee to start and beer to finish...what more could you ask for? I'm game for a Sunday ride! Anyone know their schedule yet? Start/meeting time. Location?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dahoos
    I usually ride that network at least once a season, but I can't recall riding there yet. A kick azz ride, coffee to start and beer to finish...what more could you ask for? I'm game for a Sunday ride! Anyone know their schedule yet? Start/meeting time. Location?
    Dude, sounds like great fun, but I think I'll be heading to the MBO reunion on Saturday (even if Tim wimped out) and recovering and doing end-of-summer house stuff on Sunday. If things changes I'll PM ya.
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