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    Flourescent Orange and Pink painted rocks at Horse Butte

    Rode the big loop today (one of them anyway), and when I got around to the east side of the Horse Butte Loop (up near the houses and such), every single rock that is on trail or on the edges of the trail have been painted orange or pink.

    Who would do this? Horse riders? People who hit their pedals on rocks? Someone who is planning to possibly remove these rocks? If they are removed that would be depressing. I love rocks.

    I find it alarming that someone feels they have the right to go paint up all the rocks. Does anyone know who might have done this?

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    Somebody did something similar with blue and green paint on the section of public land on the south side of Stevens rd. That is clearly vandalism and I don't think horse folks would do that. Horses see the rocks just fine. maybe some bone head caught a pedal and thought that they needed to make it safe by marking ? definitely a bummer. If anyone saw the painter that would be good to get that info to the FS law enforcement folks.

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    Flourescent Orange and Pink painted rocks at Horse Butte

    Is there a trail run planned there? I've seem that on Michigan trails, presumably to alert trail runners to the rocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trout_smith View Post
    Is there a trail run planned there? I've seem that on Michigan trails, presumably to alert trail runners to the rocks.
    If it was a running event and the paint temporary i guess it makes a tiny bit of sense.

    but sheesh. So overkill.


    It's around 2-3 miles of painted rocks.

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    While I'm complaining, whoever it is that adds all the crap on the side of the swamp wells trail just out of Horse Butte doesn't understand what it means to create appealing single track.

    Yes, the trail is an old road, but there is an obvious single trail one side of the old road, and someone thinks they had to toss every branch or log they could find on the other side of the road. As if someone wants to ride in the deep sand and not the single track?

    90% of riders would never even know they were on an old road, but they sure as crap do now!

    Completely unnecessary and ugly. If you want to do something, dig some holes, and transfer some grass patches or bushes onto the other side of the road. A stump here or there is ok, but a log every 3 feet is ridiculous. Make it look natural.

    Ok I feel better now.

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    Ok. Word has it an 11 year old got thrown from a spooked horse. So a team of people went out and painted about 1000 rocks (my guess on count anyway)

    As someone who has owned a horse I can say this is just ridiculous.

    Going to find out who did this. Has I be someone who rides there often.

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    Horses know where their feet are going and most often are "spooked" by their own nervousness in a given situation. Painting the rocks makes no sense.

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    When do they add the reflectors and "Curvy trail ahead" signs?

    Sheesh. And mt. bikers get a bad rap? How did such an insanely stupid idea get past the sensibility test of more than one person thinking it is a good idea?

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    How do they know the bright orange won't spook a horse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sketchbook View Post
    Ok. Word has it an 11 year old got thrown from a spooked horse. So a team of people went out and painted about 1000 rocks (my guess on count anyway)

    As someone who has owned a horse I can say this is just ridiculous.

    Going to find out who did this. Has I be someone who rides there often.
    Can you please elaborate on said word? I'd like to hear more.

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    I came across the orange paint several days ago and it made me sick. It happens that is one of my favorite parts of the loop trail, along the ridge. What I want to know is what to do about it. We turned over some of the rocks that we could move, but the vandalism is overwhelming. Maybe get a work party together with cans of dart gray spray paint?

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    Someone suggested night mt bike riding? Is that a possible reason for the paint?

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    This vandalism is horrible! How can anyone think this is ok? We live in the area and use the trail frequently, and this ridge is a particularly beautiful and scenic part of the ride. It is so disrespectful of the trails, the environment, and the ability of others to enjoy it. I agree with cultus that we need to try to fix this. It will take many years for the orange paint to wear off on it's own. A work party would be a good idea. Also, is there anything the forest service can or will do in a situation like this? Imagine the reaction if this had happened on the river trail or the Phil's area!

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    If this a response from horse riders you may find a feedback area on a local horse related forum. A dialogue with them may get some mutual understanding.

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    Sketchbook, have you called the Forest Service yet? They take vandalism pretty seriously and will take appropriate measures. The perps should be cleaning this up, not volunteers!
    What a mess!
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    @Seedy - I haven't called forest service yet no. Good idea. I did contact someone at the local news, and they want to run a story on it, but I think they want to know who did it first. I say, run the story and that will reveal who did this...

    Mike P @cota contracting OET to see what they know.

    @dirtfarmer That's all i know. I posted a photo on Instragram (same photo as above) and someone mentioned they talked to a hiker at the trailhead who saw a team out there painting the rocks. She relayed the story about the 11 year old to him, and he relayed it to me.

    Will keep you posted.

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    Quick update. Ted Taylor @KTVZ has talked to the forest service, and FS is sending someone out to take a look at the rocks.

    I am going to attempt to go shoot some video today for the news to use. Not a good day for me to get out but i will try!

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    Quote Originally Posted by StreamRider View Post
    How do they know the bright orange won't spook a horse?
    I don't want to blame it on the horse folks (or even one equine person) until we get confirmation that was the case. Aren't horses color blind, anyway? Seems a horse person would know that and not do such a thing. Seems to not add up. Although, I can't think of any smart reason to do it, so no matter who (horse person, hiker or bike), it is insanely stupid.

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    Horses are red-green color blind, I looked it up. Meaning that they don't see red or colors related to red, such as pink or orange. Horses don't need guidance in being able to see rocks anyway!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sketchbook View Post
    I am going to attempt to go shoot some video today for the news to use. Not a good day for me to get out but i will try!

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    Hey Joe,
    Just promise me if you use a cell phone for video, PLEASE turn it sideways!
    We newsies hate "vertical video"... :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostRing View Post
    Hey Joe,
    Just promise me if you use a cell phone for video, PLEASE turn it sideways!
    We newsies hate "vertical video"... :P
    Not to worry - I sort of do video/animation for a living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GauchoGreg View Post
    When do they add the reflectors and "Curvy trail ahead" signs?
    I might actually vote in favor of adding bumpers to a trail, like at a bowling alley!

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    Sketchbook, can you let us know about new developments, and if there is going to be a news story, and when?

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    Not knowing that trail, or what's legal, I just want to mention that a similar thing was happening to trails on the Oregon Coast. Motorcyclists/ATVers were spraying roots and obstacles to make them easier to see when moving along at fast speeds, which allowed them to go even faster, which allowed them to widen out the trails even more. Shared use trails, so what are you going to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pine Mountain View Post
    Sketchbook, can you let us know about new developments, and if there is going to be a news story, and when?
    I shot some photos+video late today. Planning on sending to news tomorrow morning. I will post a few shots here too. Noticed a few rocks had been moved while i was out. Apparently someone doesn't like the paint on the rocks, and turned a few over.

    May me sad that rocks are starting to be re-organized due to the paint. Hoping nobody has another knee jerk reaction and does something to try and fix the problem before we can figure out who created the problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slow Danger View Post
    Not knowing that trail, or what's legal, I just want to mention that a similar thing was happening to trails on the Oregon Coast. Motorcyclists/ATVers were spraying roots and obstacles to make them easier to see when moving along at fast speeds, which allowed them to go even faster, which allowed them to widen out the trails even more. Shared use trails, so what are you going to do.
    It's not legal to paint rocks on this trail or any trail unless you have some sort of permission from the forest service or BLM, etc.

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    I went out there yesterday. Weird. It is surveyor paint, and comes off with a fingernail, so it will fade I guess. I did wreck while gawking at one big rock which was actually painted in two different shades.

    I didn't mind the painted rocks as much as all the horse sh*t.

    I also saw some guy carrying a mtb cross country out there, way off any trail. Heard the usual shooting. It is always a bit weird out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sketchbook View Post
    It's not legal to paint rocks on this trail or any trail unless you have some sort of permission from the forest service or BLM, etc.
    Good to know. This was on what I believe to be County land that was/is being actively logged. The atv riders may have gotten permission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfydog View Post
    It is always a bit weird out there.
    What? You think Portland has a monopoly on weird? : )

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfydog View Post
    I went out there yesterday. Weird. It is surveyor paint, and comes off with a fingernail, so it will fade I guess. I did wreck while gawking at one big rock which was actually painted in two different shades.

    I didn't mind the painted rocks as much as all the horse sh*t.

    I also saw some guy carrying a mtb cross country out there, way off any trail. Heard the usual shooting. It is always a bit weird out there.
    Awesome news about it being temporary paint. thanks!

    Guns in bend weird? ha! There's one butte in particular which is like a gun range. Talk about litter and garbage in a public place... yikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sketchbook View Post
    Awesome news about it being temporary paint. thanks!
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    I'm not sure just how temporary it is....that surveyor paint comes in a can which sprays down, making it easy to mark the ground. It is not very tough paint, but it is more than just a powder, and with the vesicular nature of the lava it was sprayed on there will be bits of it preserved in the nooks and crannies for a long time. Probably not worth painting over though (unless of course someone wants to do it green for St. Patrick's day!)

    On the bright side, man, those trails are in great shape right now!

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    Quick update. KTVZ will be doing a story at 5 and 6 tonight. Check it out!

    Here are some more photos…

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    Who would take the time to do this so strange!
    Bend, Oregon

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    How quickly does surveyor's paint deteriorate? I imagine it may take longer on the tree limbs than on less permeable rock.

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    Wow, that really looks horrible.

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    Wow, that seems a little excesive. Does the paint glow in the dark? If it does, somebody may have marked the rocks for night riding.
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    It won't glow in the dark but will fluoresce with a black light, so In guess we could put on our UV headlamps and some 60's psychedelic tunes and go, like, do the trail at night, man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfydog View Post
    It won't glow in the dark but will fluoresce with a black light, so In guess we could put on our UV headlamps and some 60's psychedelic tunes and go, like, do the trail at night, man.
    Oooh. That would actually look kind of cool.

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    Any update on this issue? I never saw the news piece, was it done well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GauchoGreg View Post
    Any update on this issue? I never saw the news piece, was it done well?
    No updates to speak of. Last i heard forest service guy was out of town. It was a short 30 second clip on the news. They gave a phone number to contract and asked if anyone knew anything about it.

    I asked a couple horse riders if they knew anything about it yesterday while out there, and they said they figured it was for warning people about hoofs and tires. As in the gal appeared pleased…

    oh well.

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    Was just informed this is now a "Crime Stoppers" Case. Story is running again tonight on KTVZ.

    Not sure what that means exactly, but probably means business!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sketchbook View Post
    Was just informed this is now a "Crime Stoppers" Case. Story is running again tonight on KTVZ.
    Here you go.


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    And it is the Headline in the Bulletin! Yes Bend is still a small town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfydog View Post
    And it is the Headline in the Bulletin! Yes Bend is still a small town.
    The headline? For real? I don't get the paper. That's hilarious. If they don't catch someone I would be amazed.

    I also noticed something on the news mentioned a reward for any tips. Wonder if i would be included as a tipper. hmmmmmmm

    haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by sketchbook View Post
    The headline? For real?
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    Quote Originally Posted by StreamRider View Post
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    I send them like 50 photos of the rocks painted, and they picked a branch and the road section. DUMMIES!

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    Man, if this happened on the Coast, no one would give 2 chits. I'm glad y'all live in a place where this would be put stop to.

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    I can't help but think this is likely a fairly naive, but well-meaning person that likely had something traumatic happen and wanted to prevent it from happening to someone else. Certainly not something thought through by anyone with full faculties and any understanding of anything. I keep thinking it could have been a distraught parent over-reacting after a child got hurt, or something. If that is the case, I can't help but hope the person will be given the opportunity to clean up the mess without too harsh of a punishment. Have to be responsible for actions and try to mitigate the mess, but beyond that, ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GauchoGreg View Post
    I can't help but think this is likely a fairly naive, but well-meaning person that likely had something traumatic happen and wanted to prevent it from happening to someone else. Certainly not something thought through by anyone with full faculties and any understanding of anything. I keep thinking it could have been a distraught parent over-reacting after a child got hurt, or something. If that is the case, I can't help but hope the person will be given the opportunity to clean up the mess without too harsh of a punishment. Have to be responsible for actions and try to mitigate the mess, but beyond that, ...
    yeah, no doubt in my mind it's a well-meaning person or people. I think that fact could make it harder for someone to turn them in too.

    If nothing they won't be doing it again…

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