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    Current trail conditions PDX area SPRING 2013!

    Guess it is time for a new thread since it is now spring.

    Post up conditions from your last ride.

    Syncline was good on Sunday with a few sections of mud in the normal places where drainage is an issue. Hats off to WTA for trail rework on Hidden Valley. Was bummed that they removed the dirt S curve/drop, but it was not a sustainable section of trail. The trail still retains the technical rocky drop sections.

    Heard Sandy Ridge was snow from bottom to top on Saturday morning. Does anyone have an update on Sandy?
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    Sandy is a mess in regards to snow. At least 8" at the kiosk. The trail down was covered and difficult to navigate due to the "tree drips". Good accumalation plus "drips" made for poor traction and it was a wrestling match attempting to keep up enough momentum to roll up and over anything. Expect wet feet and very little pleasure. I should have gone to Syncline. The lower section was muddy... no surprise, expected that.
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    Thanks poppa#1. I will be avoiding Sandy for a while.
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    Rode stub yesterday and at the end of the ride my bike had no mud accumulation on it!! First time that's happened since summer. Even more amazing is that it was my first ride on a brand new bike! All the trail building must be earning me some serious karma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_co2 View Post
    Rode stub yesterday and at the end of the ride my bike had no mud accumulation on it!! First time that's happened since summer. Even more amazing is that it was my first ride on a brand new bike! All the trail building must be earning me some serious karma.
    Coworker rode Gales Creek yesterday and had a similar experience. I don't know about Brown's, but the Tillamook is sounding pretty good right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poppa#1 View Post
    Coworker rode Gales Creek yesterday and had a similar experience. I don't know about Brown's, but the Tillamook is sounding pretty good right now.
    Any down trees or washout on any sections on Gales, Michael? Thought you and Rich were going to hit Syncline on Sunday AM as it was pretty obvious Sandy was still going to be a mess from all the lower elevation snow on Friday and weekend reports. I got to Syncline at noon and rode til almost 4:30pm with Doug and Topher. Good riding, baby p. oak is just starting to pop in lower sections though. Kind of pleased with Hidden re-routes as well, even though the trail is not as fast due to new re-construction. Pleased they kept the rocky chutes, but some of the re-routes are obviously a bit slower to ride as before. Should get better with time though, I hope.
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    It'll be some time before we're riding bikes on the Gunsight Ridge Trail, but I'll gladly take this any day. From Friday, 3/22, had the whole place to ourselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgusta View Post
    Any down trees or washout on any sections on Gales, Michael? Thought you and Rich were going to hit Syncline on Sunday AM as it was pretty obvious Sandy was still going to be a mess from all the lower elevation snow on Friday and weekend reports. I got to Syncline at noon and rode til almost 4:30pm with Doug and Topher. Good riding, baby p. oak is just starting to pop in lower sections though. Kind of pleased with Hidden re-routes as well, even though the trail is not as fast due to new re-construction. Pleased they kept the rocky chutes, but some of the re-routes are obviously a bit slower to ride as before. Should get better with time though, I hope.
    The report I received was no mud and no blow down on Gales. I will ask how much they rode tomorrow. I did not even think Sandy had snow 'til I arrived. Rich made other plans and so had I. I am pleased to hear your report of Hidden... I always expect the worse. I would have gone to Syncline if " I Only Had A Heart(clue)". Cheers!
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    I rode Browns camp / historic trail a few weeks ago and counted 13 trees on / cross trail. I have no idea if any saw clean up has been done since then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poppa#1 View Post
    The report I received was no mud and no blow down on Gales. I will ask how much they rode tomorrow
    Cool, let's hit it on Sat AM? The wifey will be home from work for once on Sat to watch the kiddos so I got a pass to get out. I miss me a good Gales run and don't care to ride Sandy til' all the snow is gone from very top to bottom.
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    Wilson River Trail is great. No trees down and almost no mud at all. If you head east out of Jones Creek, there are a couple of inches of snow at the top of the hill up to the view point, but it is totally rideable. I imagine that it will be gone in the next day or two.

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    What's the best way to ride gales creek?
    Also if anyone rides sandy on 3-27 give an update. I'd like to go for an after work ride on friday and sandy is about the best thing I'd have time for.

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    How much of a ride are you looking for finch? The typical run this time of year is parking at the gate to Gales Cr. CG. Head down past the gate to the TH. Longer version from here is up the 2 miles that follows the hwy to Browns Camp and do the Historic Trail up to Storey Burn. Then do an out and back on Gales (from the bridge that will lead you back to the starting TH). The shorter version is to skip the first 2 miles and the Historic Trail altogether. Instead of following the hwy trail you will head towards the creek TH. This leads to the bridge that you would see coming down Storey Burn. Cross bridge and turn right. Go as far as you want to O & B from here. You can access Ravens Ridge and/or Reehers Camp from the "top". I have no idea what the trail conditions are up there. If this does not make sense I apologize. I am riding Sunday, but I am on a schedule. I may very well end up doing this. It usually has a higher "fun factor" than Wilson River.

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    Makes perfect sense thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgusta View Post
    Cool, let's hit it on Sat AM? The wifey will be home from work for once on Sat to watch the kiddos so I got a pass to get out. I miss me a good Gales run and don't care to ride Sandy til' all the snow is gone from very top to bottom.
    Can I get in on this Gales action? I've been itching to get back out there. I think I can hang. If not, I know my way around the area and you'd be free to drop me =^)

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    Quote Originally Posted by poppa#1 View Post
    How much of a ride are you looking for finch? The typical run this time of year is parking at the gate to Gales Cr. CG. Head down past the gate to the TH. Longer version from here is up the 2 miles that follows the hwy to Browns Camp and do the Historic Trail up to Storey Burn. Then do an out and back on Gales (from the bridge that will lead you back to the starting TH). The shorter version is to skip the first 2 miles and the Historic Trail altogether. Instead of following the hwy trail you will head towards the creek TH. This leads to the bridge that you would see coming down Storey Burn. Cross bridge and turn right. Go as far as you want to O & B from here. You can access Ravens Ridge and/or Reehers Camp from the "top". I have no idea what the trail conditions are up there. If this does not make sense I apologize. I am riding Sunday, but I am on a schedule. I may very well end up doing this. It usually has a higher "fun factor" than Wilson River.

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    So do I understand that the "loop" including storey burn is preferably ridden counter-clockwise? I rode is clockwise last year and wasn't impressed. Also please explain the higher fun factor vs wrt, faster, more tech??

    Does the northern end of gales not get as much maintenance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_co2 View Post
    So do I understand that the "loop" including storey burn is preferably ridden counter-clockwise? I rode is clockwise last year and wasn't impressed. Also please explain the higher fun factor vs wrt, faster, more tech??

    Does the northern end of gales not get as much maintenance?
    The descending is simply better and the climbs are short. I appreciate Wilson River because it is "rideable" when many places are not. The effort for Wilson does not match the reward though. Obviously everyone has their preferences. There is nothing technical on Wilson... nothing. The last trip on Gales was fine in regards to maintenance, but I will always miss the "old Gales Creek" trail. Kind of weird to think about the trail builder who died attempting to restore that washed out mess. Back to the fun factor... there are some smokin' sections on the Historic Trail and the Storey Burn descent is a ripper. The lower end of Wilson(from ATV land after the bridge) is pretty lame. I still ride it, but I often stop at the Forestry Center, get water and head back instead. If the descent to Reehers is in good shape that is a fun drop too. Neither place are in my top ten local areas, btw.
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    Sandy Ridge is doing great. All the snow on the lower half is gone and the trail is mostly dry (no mud, just some soft spots) and fast (some minor damage from the recent weather, but nothing to worry about it). I was told the top half had just 2 snow spots on Rock Drop, and some still on the road going up (one was ridable, one wasn't). Nothing that would stop anyone from having fun.

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    Just got back from sandy and trails are money. No snow on the trails except one 8' long patch on the very beginning climb to rock drop and it's totally ridable. I bet its gone in a day or two anyway. The dirt was super tacky and fast all over the mountain. No snow on the road climb at all. All this talk of gales creek has me thinking of hitting that on saturday but sandy was so good I might go back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by finch6013 View Post
    Just got back from sandy and trails are money. No snow on the trails except one 8' long patch on the very beginning climb to rock drop and it's totally ridable. I bet its gone in a day or two anyway. The dirt was super tacky and fast all over the mountain. No snow on the road climb at all. All this talk of gales creek has me thinking of hitting that on saturday but sandy was so good I might go back.
    Thanks for the update finch. I may get out of today with some fun under my belt!
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    Syncline and Hospital Hill (above the hospital) were awesome today. Syncline was swarming with hikers. I would avoid Cry Baby and Maui Waterfalls due to the hikers. The jeep trail is the ticket for getting to the top...and Millennium Trail was good at Hospital Hill.

    Sandy Ridge sounds good. I will be buzzing up there on Monday. Good to hear.

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    Rode sandy's ridge hard again today and hit every trail she has to offer for a couple of laps. Good conditions all around, and i'll also add that communication breakdown was snow free as well. The downed tree on two turntables has been cleared, so go hall balls and have fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xDennisLuix View Post
    Can I get in on this Gales action? I've been itching to get back out there. I think I can hang. If not, I know my way around the area and you'd be free to drop me =^)
    Sorry, I just caught this now Dennis. bubba13 and I rode Gales on Sat, with everyone else so it seemed as well. Trails were great and better the further you went. I was on a bit of a time crunch, but still managed to ride to about a mile from Reheers on all trail with start at Gales CG. Only about three trees and one small washout on Gales to have to get off the bike for, but at 8.5 miles of trail that is not bad at all. Like I said lots of folks out on it, small hiker groups and bike groups, but had no one on the backside of Gales toward Reheers and conditions were pretty fast. Fortunately, only had to pass a couple of hiker groups on the return for 6 miles of mostly uninterrupted trail flow. The closest thing to riding a roller coaster of a trail around here for me on the return.

    My preferred route is just out/back from CG, up to top of Bell Rd. down backside of Gales towards Reheers or 1 mile easy fire road pedal to top of Raven's Ridge DH trail and back up to top of Bell for the 6 mile all single trail return on Gales Creek Trail. And, I prefer going at end of day, like 3pm or so as most rider groups already did there ride there earlier in the day and usually only run into foot traffic on the narrow trails on the way up for nice uninterrupted ride on the way back, like a Rollercoaster!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgusta View Post
    Sorry, I just caught this now Dennis. bubba13 and I rode Gales on Sat, with everyone else so it seemed as well. Trails were great and better the further you went. I was on a bit of a time crunch, but still managed to ride to about a mile from Reheers on all trail with start at Gales CG. Only about three trees and one small washout on Gales to have to get off the bike for, but at 8.5 miles of trail that is not bad at all. Like I said lots of folks out on it, small hiker groups and bike groups, but had no one on the backside of Gales toward Reheers and conditions were pretty fast. Fortunately, only had to pass a couple of hiker groups on the return for 6 miles of mostly uninterrupted trail flow. The closest thing to riding a roller coaster of a trail around here for me on the return.

    My preferred route is just out/back from CG, up to top of Bell Rd. down backside of Gales towards Reheers or 1 mile easy fire road pedal to top of Raven's Ridge DH trail and back up to top of Bell for the 6 mile all single trail return on Gales Creek Trail. And, I prefer going at end of day, like 3pm or so as most rider groups already did there ride there earlier in the day and usually only run into foot traffic on the narrow trails on the way up for nice uninterrupted ride on the way back, like a Rollercoaster!

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    Holler, Brandon or Dennis if you want to hit it up sometime. Usually about 3-4hr ride depending on speed and Sunday afternoons are usually my preferred and only available time to go.

    No worries and thanks for the trail report. Ended up having a pretty darn good day out at Post instead. I will definitely take you up on the ride offer though!

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    How was the mud at post?

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    Word is Post is prime. I'm heading out there in t-minus 1:50 hours!

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    Go shred! I've got the day off but can't ride and it's killing me!!!! Gotta go take my electrician journeyman exam today so it's probably not the smartest idea to go riding first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by finch6013 View Post
    How was the mud at post?
    Almost none. I rode seven streams, 8 track, the boot and twin peaks yesterday. There were maybe one or two tiny mud spots, mostly in the flat sections between 8 track and the boot. Otherwise, it was in great shape. If anyone gets out there in the next few days, try to ride twin peaks -- a lot of the new sections need breaking in (almost hard to follow in a few spots, especially on the larger loop).

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    What about the logging by the GC campground? It sounds like you can still ride through it but when I did it about 3 weeks ago there were logging cables across teh trail...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mforness3000 View Post
    What about the logging by the GC campground? It sounds like you can still ride through it but when I did it about 3 weeks ago there were logging cables across teh trail...
    No cables or indication of logging when I rode there last weekend. But, according to the ODF site (Oregon Dept of Forestry). The most recent trail status states that Gales Creek trail is closed during the week (M-F) due to logging and open on the weekends. Oregon Department of Forestry - Tillamook State Forest Non-Motorized Trail Report
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    I guess I am the only one dumb enough to try and ride Sandy this afternoon.

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    I thought about joining you but then again, how was the trail conditions?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Giggity View Post
    I guess I am the only one dumb enough to try and ride Sandy this afternoon.

    Well played, everyone else from Portland, well played.
    At least you got out. I can report that my couch was warm and dry today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldHouseMan View Post
    At least you got out. I can report that my couch was warm and dry today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by finch6013 View Post
    I thought about joining you but then again, how was the trail conditions?????
    It was by far the wettest I have ever seen it up there. I started a bit after 2:00 and it started pouring about 10 pedal strokes later. It looked like it was fine for those that were finishing up as I started.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Giggity View Post
    It was by far the wettest I have ever seen it up there. I started a bit after 2:00 and it started pouring about 10 pedal strokes later. It looked like it was fine for those that were finishing up as I started.
    Thank you for the report. I convinced myself that I would spend more time cleaning myself, my bike and my clothing(especially shoes)than I would have riding. A buddy called from the TH and reported that they had sat in the car waiting for the rain to let up before starting. That dry road ride had to suffice. It started pouring in Portland less than ten minutes after I took off the road shoes. Glad I was rooting for Michigan yesterday. My "cave" was pretty cozy...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Giggity View Post
    It was by far the wettest I have ever seen it up there. I started a bit after 2:00 and it started pouring about 10 pedal strokes later. It looked like it was fine for those that were finishing up as I started.
    It was showering on/off on me all day as well. Climbed up Syncline to Little Moab amidst partly sunny skies and nice trails to total downpour minutes later while coming down. Had to bail to your favorite hiking spot down the road for riding/hiking on some pretty steep pitches that didn't wince once at the rain . So, still had a decent ride today, but been on couch for 2-days straight with stomach flu while cleaning child vomit and sharts all day long, so just about any ride for me without too much mess was good for me! April showers was in full throttle today. Partly sunny one minute, then massive downpour the next, all day long so it seemed. Bet Sandy was an absolute mess.
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    Happy Monday! Per the trail builder's request, Bad Motor Scooter will be closed for a few days to allow the reshaping work to dry out. It's too muddy to ride it right now. Please respect Pinner and friends' hard work this weekend, and don't ride the trail until they call it open. Thank you!!!
    When you have to quit working on the trails because it's too muddy, it's usually too muddy to ride as well. 4-5 days of continuous rain will result in muddy conditions pretty much anywhere. When the trails are too muddy to ride, we hit the hundreds of miles of dirt/gravel roads for a couple days until the trails dry out.
    Since people are going to ride no matter what the conditions are like, why do you need a report on the trail conditions?

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    . . . I don't know why people ride muddy trails. I guess some people just think it's fun? I seed mud-covered bikes all over town. I rode the new section of GP the other day (during the dry spell, after it had dried out). All kinds of nasty ruts -- some small sections were almost unrideable because of it. Not sure that riding a new trail in the mud is the best thing for the trail. Personally, I wait for the trails to dry out before I ride them, especially this time of year when it doesn't take much to turn perfect to swampy. But I think it is clear that others see no problem with it. It also may depend on the trail.

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    It also may depend on the trail.
    It sure does. For example; Syncline is mainly decomposed rock with dirt between the rocky sediment, Post Canyon and the other trails near Hood River are nothing but dirt that turns to gooey mud when it's wet. After five days of rain, Post Canyon will need at least 3-4 days, ideally until next weekend because the humidity is likely to remain high, slowing the drying process.

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    Brown's Camp is in better shape now. Out of the 13 trees that were down on the main trail, only 3 remain. One on the long technical root climb, and two on Graville brothers. Also did the small loop to Horse Camp and did some limb clearing. Limbs and small trees down in multiple areas there. I am guessing ODF is responsible for the tree removal. Thanks to the crew that did the work.
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    Rode up at Scappoose on 4/14. Saw 7 bikers and a couple hikers. Trails are in decent shape, though obviously a bit wet.

    Just a couple trees down, some near the big, short & steep tree re-route from last year.

    Typical weather of rain and sun. Good times!

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    Sandy had snow at top of Homestead yesterday (Sunday) and was a bit sloppy in the upper sections. Lower Hide and Seek was okay-not great.

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    Is it safe to assume Surveyors Ridge is not clear yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattsavage View Post
    Is it safe to assume Surveyors Ridge is not clear yet?
    For the most part, I think it is still snowed in. A portion of the north end should be rideable, but not sure how much. I rode my cross bike up Pine Montt Rd. on Sunday. No snow at all up past the north end trailhead. A little ways past there on the road you start to see a dusting of snow in the trees. As you get near Gibson Prarie Horse Camp, it is solid snow on the side of the road. A little ways past the camp, the road itself is covered in snow. We turned back at that point. Oh, and it was colder than hell. About 53 at the bottom where we started. It was 36 degrees when we had to turn back.

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    Rocky Point near Scapoose was dry with some sections being chocolate cake "moist". Loamy in some parts. No mud really, except in some remote spots. It was my first time and the maze of trails there was ridiculous. It's gonna take numerous visits before I figure out which circuits make the best run. Does anyone know how to link the funnest sections over there?

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    Sandy Ridge was back in good shape today. Snow is gone from top to bottom. The drainage improvements made on Saturday seem to have worked out well on Hide and Seek. Only a couple of puddles on TTM, QPF, and top of upper H&S.
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    Post was pretty nice yesterday. Few wet spots, but not many. Unfortunately some knucklehead on a motorcycle chewed up the lower part of Mitchell Ridge (just above the 7 Streams parking area) (lots of motorcycle trails in the area, but this isn't one of them).

    Rode Spaghetti Factory for the first time since the re-route. Much/most of the top section had to be re-built because of clear cutting. Appreciate the work -- they did a good job on the reroute. But it is a shame that the great, flowy top part is now all gone.

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    Anyone know if Souixon is accessible and what kind of shape it is in?
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    Souixon has been under snow and probably few users on it with little clean up and maintenance. Even if clear of snow, my guess is lots of stuff down across the trail, especially the upper portion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Giggity View Post
    Anyone know if Souixon is accessible and what kind of shape it is in?
    Rode it 3 weeks back. Clear to the bridge. Crossing that "falls" this time of year is tough. Very slippery... overall trail was in good shape.
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    what's good in the hood river area right now for saturday? I don't want to ride syncline or post, I'm burnt out on those places. Never been to woop dee trail, is it worth it?

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    Just got back from whoopdee and dare I say it, but for the first time since summer I came home with a bike covered in dust instead of mud. Fun trail for something a little on the xc side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by finch6013 View Post
    Just got back from whoopdee.
    Having never ridden Whoopdee, where do you recommend parking?

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    It was my first time so I'm no pro. I stopped by dirty finger bikes on the way and they gave me some solid directions. I parked by the second green gate you see on your left once the pavement turns to mostly gravel. It's about half a mile pedal up the road to the trail head, but depending on how you climb out it will either put you right at your car (old road climb out) or a 1/4 mile uphill from your car (new climbing trail out), so just a short ride back down the road and your done. I seen some people parked another mile down the road at the first gate and I think there is a climbing trail from there up, but unless you just get kicks out of climbing I'm not sure why you'd park down there. Someone else might chime in with better directions but the local shops are always willing to give you turn by turn directions to anything out there.

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    Finding the trailheads in the Hood River area is easy; just look for the numerous piles of fresh dog sh*t everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronbo613 View Post
    Finding the trailheads in the Hood River area is easy; just look for the numerous piles of fresh dog sh*t everywhere.
    So true. The Sno-Parks around Mt Hood are the same, try skiing through it sometime.

    I don't think I've seen as many nice bikes on vehicles around Sandy as I did on Sunday coming home from skiing at Mt Hood.
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    Good job! Sandy was so good yesterday...

    ...and is only going to get better this week!

    It was mildly greasy and wet in a few spots, but nothing too bad. Should be perfect mid-week.

    And let's all remember to re-up our NWTA/IMBA memberships because damn, every time I ride Sandy Ridge I am so thankful for all the amazing work that has been put into that trail system.

    I used to be a total skeptic around the "flow trail" concept, but I'm a believer now.
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    I rode Post Canon yesterday for the first time, and I was impressed with the trails and the dirt! There were a few puddles, but the trails were 95% perfect. Likely be Hero conditions by mid-week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeMan View Post
    I rode Post Canon yesterday for the first time, and I was impressed with the trails and the dirt! There were a few puddles, but the trails were 95% perfect. Likely be Hero conditions by mid-week.
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    Thanks!

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    Leeman, I'm impressed that you left the Tillamook Forest!
    Thanks Fredster! I try to ride regularly with Ron and Don someplace not-local, but weather hasn't always made that easy.

    It was Don's idea, though, and a dang good one!

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    Has anybody ridden Dog River this year?
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    With the nice warming trends in the PNW (about time!), just wondering what the latest conditions are for Surveyor's/Dog River and anything else higher up (Knebels, 8 Mile)? Is that dang snow melting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheotherH View Post
    With the nice warming trends in the PNW (about time!), just wondering what the latest conditions are for Surveyor's/Dog River and anything else higher up (Knebels, 8 Mile)? Is that dang snow melting?
    Seems like the snow is going to be beating a hasty retreat as we've got back-to-back 75-85 degree days coming at us. I've only ridden 8 and 15 Mile(?) up there and would love to do a longer, big day up on Surveyors/Dog River. If folks are thinking of such an outing please PM me!
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    What parts of Scappoose are open these days?
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    Although there isn't a large enough sampling for statistical confirmation, there's seems to be a direct correlation between the current awesome PNW weather and the number of recent postings asking about higher elevation trail conditions

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    Who rode Dog River this week? The super D is this weekend I believe. Someone knows something... how about YOU? Please tell if the drive is worth it. Thanks! I got it wrong. DH "ENDURO" is next weekend. On a admittedly snarky note, I think that it is pretty sad that the 400-500' climb is not timed. I am going to hit it before this event. I will post trail conditions... unless they are too good.

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    As per this website Hood River Mountain Biking Trail Conditions | The Gorge is my Gym, as of April 28, Dog River is snow covered and for Surveyor's, the first 4 miles or so from the power lines is open with multiple downed trees beyond that point.

    Any updates from this past weekend (May 4/5)? Pretty please
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    Hit up Whoop Dee Doo for the first time on saturday. Hella awwwwesome to say the least.

    We parked down at the Puke Point (TH?) corner of the road (didn't know where else to park) and ended up riding on the dirt road for about a mile before we hit the trail off to the left. Next time we will be parking at the top of the switchbacks and/or closer to the actual starting point of the trail.

    They also had some kinda rally going on that day too. Definitely cool to watch.

    Not sure how the new switchbacks compare to the old road climb (we took the switchbacks) and I thought there were great. Definitely a killer workout towards the top! Does anyone do this trail in the opposite direction, or is it meant to just go one way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheotherH View Post
    As per this website Hood River Mountain Biking Trail Conditions | The Gorge is my Gym, as of April 28, Dog River is snow covered and for Surveyor's, the first 4 miles or so from the power lines is open with multiple downed trees beyond that point.

    Any updates from this past weekend (May 4/5)? Pretty please
    Dog River is snow free. Blowdown has been removed. One "great " corner is ALREADY blown out from poor handling and poorer brake usage. The "waterfall rock garden" just after the half way has been dumbed all the way down now. It started last year before the DH "race". Now there is a complete trail rutted out next to the large rock. Oh well, it's sucks... don't know what else to say. Surveyors has blowdown throughout, but the highest concentration is at the southern end. Overall tread on Surveyors is pretty good. Be careful since some of the "fast" sections include some inconvenient blowdown that can surprise anyone at speed. Oakridge is AWESOME. Weird, little reroute at the very bottom though. Great views yesterday. I wish that it was not dry already. Dog River has been hit pretty hard already too. I sure hope "Hurricane Racing" does a lot more restoration this year!!!
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    Gales Creek / Brown's Camp?

    Sorry if this has been covered, just didn't see it...

    Can anyone comment on the trail conditions at Gales Creek/Storey Burns / HHT trail?

    This sunny weather is almost making me sick with 'trail-fevor'.
    Get some miles in--we've got weather coming.

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    Gales creek/story burn was good to go last weekend. Nice and dry. Gales has a few small trees down but nothing to worry about.

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    I rode HHT a couple of weeks ago. There will be a section or two of mud this time of year, but nothing worth packing your fenders for ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by theeric View Post
    What parts of Scappoose are open these days?
    ALL of Scappy is now open:

    Scappoose SOUTH SIDE OPEN! | Northwest Trail Alliance / Forums / Trail Info & Resources/Trail Conditions
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    Rode Scappose yesterday and it was in great shape. No problem with climbing the steeps after the recent weather. A little slick in some spots, but I was riding summer tires, i.e. racing ralph's (zero traction). No puddles, either.

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    I've ridden Hagg Lake a couple of times recently, and it's in Primo shape. The Blackberries have not grown out yet, and the mud is all but gone. Even the grassy swamp section is dry except for 10 yards you can get around.

    Please remember it costs money to park there ($5 I think, or a yearly pass is $55). Also, I think they are raising the rate from $5 to $6 later this summer.

    One last note: they are planning on putting in RV and walk-in camping near the damn in the next year, so ride the trail now!

    P.S. I am always looking for Bike Patrol candidates at Hagg Lake. If you're interested in giving back and helping others while riding your bike, let me know: patrol@nw-trail.org
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    Leeman, What do you know about the county raising the height of the damn? I think I saw an Oregon Field Guide episode that talked about this. I assume this will put most of the trail under water.

    I havenít been on the Hagg Lake trail in some time, but remember it to be fun.
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    ... and if we just ... Hagg Water Level ...

    OldHouseMan, yes I do know about that ...

    Many years ago, Washington County, who manages Hagg Lake, created a master plan. It included things like a Conference Center, Cabins, Camping, an Amphitheater, etc. It was going to be quite crowded out there if all that stuff came to pass. And it might have, except that the folks in charge of the water warned they might raise the water level 15 or 20 feet.

    So a building moratorium was declared ... why build stuff that was going to be flooded, right?

    About a year ago Todd Winter moved from the Eugene area to become director of Washington County Parks, and he decided to find out if the water was going to be raised or not, since he had to find out before he could OK the plan to add Camping.

    Long story short (it is politics, after all), nobody wants to raise the water level that much any more -- it's too expensive. There is a cheaper alternative that involves getting water from the Willamette, so nobody wants to spend the money.

    There is a possibility that it will be raised 6 ft. some day. But it will take 15 years to study it, and then it would take a minimum of 20 years to do it! For the math-impaired, that a long time from now. I think we'll have problems with crowding out there long before we will have to worry about trail reroutes.

    Lastly, the trail is very fun. Please enjoy it, but watch out for hikers around the boat ramps.
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    Tilly Update

    Another update from the Tillamook Forest ... on 5/21/2013

    Last week was rather rainy, up to and including Saturday, so I rode The Figure 8, i.e. the Gales Creek Story Burn loop followed by the Browns Camp (aka Historic Hiking Tail) loop.

    Gales creek has a reroute in the top section that avoids that old crazy hard water crossing, and the trail is holding up well. There are a couple of trees down, but nothing too bad. Story burn is likewise in pretty good shape.

    The Browns Camp/HHT trails is way too muddy. We had to abandon 1/2 way through the loop the save both the Trail and our bikes and backs. If it doesn't rain too much this week, it should be ridable next week and good to go soon after that.

    Note that the HHT bridge is out (again), but there are warning signs and a fun and mostly ridable reroute that adds 1/2 mile.

    On the Wilson River Trail, the Bridge is still out in the first (east-most) section, between Elk Creek and Kings Mountain. There is a log-over that requires some bravery. I did not want to cross it with my bike, but I saw others doing so.

    Note also on trail conditions in general: we are trying to keep them up to date on the Northwest Trail Alliance wiki page for trails, here: NWTA Wiki It has kind of a cool map interface, thanks to our Web guru Joe Rykowski (famed Black Rock and Stub Stewart trail builder).

    Please check it out. If you like it, or if you think it sucks, let me know.

    It's nice to have a "conditions" thread here, but it would be nice have such updates attached to a map-like interface. We'd like to improve what we have -- if it's not useful nobody will use it.

    Enjoy!
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    Note: I want to mention that the Tilly Trails aren't well described yet in our wiki pages, but I'm working on that. Check out the Hagg Lake description for an example of my updates, though the "current conditions" on that page aren't current: Trail:Henry Hagg Lake - NWTA Wiki
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    . . . there is a FR44 work party on June 1. Think it meets at 9 at the Little John Snowpark (signs for it all over town). That should put a dent in any remaining trees on Surveyors or Knebal, I would think. Believe it or not, those trails may see some snow this week. Wish I could be there on the 1st, but I am foolishly/suicidally attempting the Oregon Stampede that day.

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    There were no trees on Knebal when I rode it this past Monday. However there were half dozen or so on Eightmile.

    Wish I could make the work party as well, but I've committed to the work party on the north side of St Helens.

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    i was also up at kneble monday. some trees down on 8mile. not a game changer though.
    i also rode from 8mile campground to the surveyors trailhead on hwy44. that's good. from there i went up cooks meadow to fr4410. 20 or so down trees in there. ran into snow about 1.5miles from high prarie so i post holed to the top and across. it was probably 4' deep on the shaded side of the road? there was still too much snow at the top of trail 450 so i continued on the road. i picked up the trail where 15mile comes in from the right and it was all good from there down to hwy44. super wet snow was falling when i broke camp this morning. govy had 5 inches maybe
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    Quote Originally Posted by yourideit View Post
    i was also up at kneble monday. some trees down on 8mile. not a game changer though.
    i also rode from 8mile campground to the surveyors trailhead on hwy44. that's good. from there i went up cooks meadow to fr4410. 20 or so down trees in there. ran into snow about 1.5miles from high prarie so i post holed to the top and across. it was probably 4' deep on the shaded side of the road? there was still too much snow at the top of trail 450 so i continued on the road. i picked up the trail where 15mile comes in from the right and it was all good from there down to hwy44. super wet snow was falling when i broke camp this morning. govy had 5 inches maybe
    Great info, thanks!!!
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    I was planning to ride Eight Mile/Knebal this Saturday, but I'm reconsidering with all of this rain. Should I avoid these trails when it is wet?

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    Two things: the east side of Mt Hood may not have seen much/any of this precipitation. If it did, it likely will serve to improve conditions.

    Enjoy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by finch6013 View Post
    It was my first time so I'm no pro. I stopped by dirty finger bikes on the way and they gave me some solid directions. I parked by the second green gate you see on your left once the pavement turns to mostly gravel. It's about half a mile pedal up the road to the trail head, but depending on how you climb out it will either put you right at your car (old road climb out) or a 1/4 mile uphill from your car (new climbing trail out), so just a short ride back down the road and your done. I seen some people parked another mile down the road at the first gate and I think there is a climbing trail from there up, but unless you just get kicks out of climbing I'm not sure why you'd park down there. Someone else might chime in with better directions but the local shops are always willing to give you turn by turn directions to anything out there.
    Trailhead is actually really easy to find. Drive up Old Dalles Rd. about 1.7 miles past the crest and look for the large developed parking lot on the right. You can't miss it. It is the first large parking lot you will come to. It is not a turnout or something like that - it's full on parking lot. It even has a large kiosk sign there. The trailhead is across the road from the large parking lot. This trail is highly recommende. Great views. Great flow. This is my favorite trail in the HR area.

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    Got a ride in out at Gales today. The soil was frozen but still had decent grip. Only a couple of spots with frost heave and quite a few rocks kicked out on the trail from the freeze/thaw uphill. Cleared a few areas of loose rock where it was impassable. No snow in the area today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bubba13 View Post
    Got a ride in out at Gales today. The soil was frozen but still had decent grip. Only a couple of spots with frost heave and quite a few rocks kicked out on the trail from the freeze/thaw uphill. Cleared a few areas of loose rock where it was impassable. No snow in the area today.
    Good to hear Lee, wish I could of joined you but was enduring another painful day at work. I did take Friday off and will be looking for trail to ride if the hills don't get dumped on too hard. Holler if you want to ride, taking off in the AM.
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