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    Caution;  Merge;  Workers Ahead! Bend: South Fork bridge construction project

    Please be advised the South Fork trail will have Forest Service and COTA crews working on a bridge replacement project Monday through Friday the week of Sept 14th – 18th.

    Please avoid the South Fork trail during this time. The work crews will be working with heavy log moving equipment and do not need to be interrupted by trail users. There will also be a short relocation of the trail to better match the flow of the new bridge and given the dry conditions the trail will not benefit from trail users at this time. Please respect this request and use alternate routes in the area.

    This project will replace a bridge that is collapsing due to age. The replacement will be done with a single log stringer which will be flattened on top to provide an 18” trail surface. The log will not have a handrail to facilitate riding for those that seek the challenge. This rideability of this bridge was important aspect negotiated and agreed to between the FS and COTA.

    Your assistance is appreciated.
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    While I'd like to avoid this trail, I plan on riding Northfork/Flagline on tuesday, while coming down on South Fork. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure I'll be doing this come hell or high water!

    Will there be a temporary log crossing for me to cross? Or will I have to rock hop across this section? It is very narrow, after all, but a temp. plank would be ideal.

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    Is this the wide plank bridge near the bottom of the descent?

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    I think so, Nat. The one with little red flags placed near it.

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    So you would like us to build you your own personal crossing for Tuesday, stop what we are working on to let you pass on by and not block the trail with rigging and tools so we don't spoil your experience? No problem! Seriously, I understand your need to ride, but please choose another route if at all possible. We will have rigging, tools and equipment all over the trail as well as realigning the entries and exits. We really don't need to be distracted looking out for riders while we are working. Thanks for your consideration.- Chris Dodson, COTA

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    DF,
    Okay that's one way to look at it. There's another way to look at it: Bend has how many trails, with how many loop options and you're going down South Fork, despite a polite request to avoid for a total of 5 days of summer. Could I suggest Swede/Rockless ridge this one time? There will not be a temp bridge, and yes it is really narrow and I'm sure you could clear it. If you come up short, there will be hardware nearby to pin your collarbone together if the workcrews are feeling generous. Thanks for your cooperation.

    Nat,
    Yes, this is that wide plank bridge that is collapsing and leaning into South Fork of Tumalo Creek. Some of you have noticed a very large log all cleaned up and ready to be placed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeenYour Crash
    Nat,
    Yes, this is that wide plank bridge that is collapsing and leaning into South Fork of Tumalo Creek. Some of you have noticed a very large log all cleaned up and ready to be placed.
    Ahhh, I did notice that large log last week and was wondering what would become of it. Wasn't that plank bridge fixed (or installed) only a few years ago, like 2004 or so? I seem to recall something like that. It's amazing how quickly things can wear out in the woods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seedy
    So you would like us to build you your own personal crossing for Tuesday, stop what we are working on to let you pass on by and not block the trail with rigging and tools so we don't spoil your experience? No problem! Seriously, I understand your need to ride, but please choose another route if at all possible. We will have rigging, tools and equipment all over the trail as well as realigning the entries and exits. We really don't need to be distracted looking out for riders while we are working. Thanks for your consideration.- Chris Dodson, COTA
    Gee, Sally, don't let your panties bundle up. That section of creek there is very narrow, it seems like a feasible option to wade it.

    As to Mr. Kratsch, I suppose I can hold off this one time. But which genius decided to do it this week, in prime riding season, as opposed to say, November?

    It's like replacing the Bachelor lifts over the Christmas holiday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirt farmer
    Gee, Sally, don't let your panties bundle up. That section of creek there is very narrow, it seems like a feasible option to wade it.

    As to Mr. Kratsch, I suppose I can hold off this one time. But which genius decided to do it this week, in prime riding season, as opposed to say, November?

    It's like replacing the Bachelor lifts over the Christmas holiday.
    I am with you on this one!! I wanted to hit it as well. Bummer!!
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    By the way, as of two days ago, there was a downed tree across the trail, about a quarter mile or less up from the old bridge. Can you guys cut that out while you're at it?

    Thanks

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    I'm speechless
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    DF -

    you're spot on with the Mt B analogy. I was thinking there for a second you were serious about this being prime season. Then I thought what local goes to Mt B at Christmas. Dust Farmer, I agree with you. November is prime season!

    This being a FS project, we're helping out as we are the primary benefactors of this work. The fact the trail is closed for a couple days before prime riding season seems like a good plan to me. I appreciate the kudos.

    Thanks for the heads up on the down log, we'll get right on that.

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    Thanks! I knew there was a reason I write you guys a check every year (while often pinching my nose!)

    By the way, whatever happened to the old COTA website forum moderator who everyone wanted to axe because he wasn't stifling free speech in the forums? I think his name was Paul something, but that was a few years ago, I may be wrong. I hope he's still with you guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirt farmer
    Gee, Sally, don't let your panties bundle up. That section of creek there is very narrow, it seems like a feasible option to wade it.

    As to Mr. Kratsch, I suppose I can hold off this one time. But which genius decided to do it this week, in prime riding season, as opposed to say, November?

    It's like replacing the Bachelor lifts over the Christmas holiday.


    First of all DF, it's Nelly, not Sally. Second, my panties don't bunch up cuz I only wear a thong while riding and C, "prime riding season"?! Dust Farmer indeed. See you on the trail. Thanks for your support!

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    zoiks :-)
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    y'all need to get back on yer 2 wheeled, fancy pants, travlin' contraptions, and RIDE!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NastyNick
    y'all need to get back on yer 2 wheeled, fancy pants, travlin' contraptions, and RIDE!!!
    True Dat! (Double true)
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    Quote Originally Posted by NastyNick
    y'all need to get back on yer 2 wheeled, fancy pants, travlin' contraptions, and RIDE!!!
    Agreed! COTA's the only girl in town, so we may as well take her to the dance, no matter how ugly she may be.

    And didn't Michael Jackson die for this? For all our bickering? Can't we all get along, white, black, (and whatever color he was?)

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    C'mon, a little flamin' on the MTBR is good for the soul. No offense intended and none taken. By the way DF, the tree has been removed from the trail as of today. Let's ride sometime. I am open on weekdays, although I am busy this week got a date with the ugly girl. CD aka Nelly

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    Quote Originally Posted by seedy
    C'mon, a little flamin' on the MTBR is good for the soul. No offense intended and none taken. By the way DF, the tree has been removed from the trail as of today. Let's ride sometime. I am open on weekdays, although I am busy this week got a date with the ugly girl. CD aka Nelly
    Hey Seedy,

    I'm not so sure DF, W3 and 1-29 actually ride... 'course, neither do I.
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    Yeah, you all seem to spend a lot of time posting. Says the guy who's running this thread into the ground. I swear I saw you riding yesterday San Soucie, if that's what you want to call it. Still laughing about the BOB downhill bomb! CD

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    Quote Originally Posted by sans soucie
    Hey Seedy,

    I'm not so sure DF, W3 and 1-29 actually ride... 'course, neither do I.
    Going up 310, Upper Whoops, Sector, Swede, Flagline, etc... THIS AFTERNOON!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by willem3
    Going up 310, Upper Whoops, Sector, Swede, Flagline, etc... THIS AFTERNOON!!
    Did you escape the rain? curious. We rode 2/3 of the way ccw around Mt. B and it never rained on us (wish it had - it's VERY dry up there.)

    Seedy, no, I don't call THAT riding, I call it keeping BoB and "Mo" in check!
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    Photos

    Here is a link to some photos from the bridge replacement project during the week and also treadwork and water management work on Sat. I thoroughly enjoyed working with the fine COTA folks on this project, all the hand tool work was a nice break from writing trail management plans (what I spend a lot of time doing these days).

    Photos can be found here: http://picasaweb.google.com/traildyn...yF9vf8_7T4ywE#

    Pual T. has a bit of follow up work on the ends for the qualifiers, but the bridge is in place and trail is open and ready for riders.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sans soucie
    Did you escape the rain? curious. We rode 2/3 of the way ccw around Mt. B and it never rained on us (wish it had - it's VERY dry up there.)

    Seedy, no, I don't call THAT riding, I call it keeping BoB and "Mo" in check!
    Not entirely! We need rain!!!! I was praying for rain while riding!
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    Jeebus, so much for my theory you'd move that sucker by rolling it on logs egyptian style.

    Thank you guys, that slide show puts it into perspective.

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    [QUOTE=MrCookie]Jeebus, so much for my theory you'd move that sucker by rolling it on logs egyptian style.


    Log was estimated to weigh in at over 5500 lb, and it had to be moved "a far piece" and up and over downed trees. No you know why they wanted the trail closed during the construction phase. T-Berg did a lot of the rigging set up, and did a dang fine job.

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    Nice job everyone! That looked like a BIG job! Holy smokes!! Awesome effort!! End result looks really nice. Can't wait to go out there this weekend.
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    Nice pics Woodman. Thanks for posting. That was a fun project. More importantly, thanks for coming out and helping us with the bridge and the drainage work. Your insight and knowledge was very helpful. I'm guessing you might have some trail damage to take care of when you get back home? Thanks again. CD

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    Enjoy it! Remember it is not fully complete yet. When the chainsaw ban lifts Tberg will be putting some on/off ramps on there for a challenging little crossing. So for now, you may want to walk it, unless of course you are Crash or Tberg and you have a loaded BOB stuck to the back of your bike, then you can just charge the step up and drop off like you were commuting to work.

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    "I'm guessing you might have some trail damage to take care of when you get back home? Thanks again." CD[/QUOTE]

    It has rained 10+ inches back home in the last 36 hrs, it has stopped for now but the forecast is for more this week. I got word this AM that a steel truss bridge on a USFS trail that sits 10 feet off water line is being lapped by water today. Major flooding is the operative word, not to mention lots of tread damage to trails.

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    Woody, that's a bummer!

    Hey, thanks again for coming to Bend and helping out with the work we are doing here! Your expertise was appreciated. Great pix, too, thanks!
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    Thanks Woodman and everyone else!

    Woodman, I've been searching for books on difficult terrain trail building techniques used by the CCC in the 30's (and premodern trail building in general). I've had no luck. Are there any books, pamphlets, etc. that you can recommend?

    Thanks

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    DF,

    I am not aware of any CCC publications on trail building. I do have a friend and my first trail building mentor Bill Davendorf who was in the CCC, I can ask him if he has anything. Bill is 86 now but would have any documents that he received when he was in the CCC.

    I should point out that PTBA (Professional TrailBuilders Association) gave our Harvey Bell Award to the CCC in 2007 at our conference: http://www.trailbuilders.org/resourc...ell_award.html

    Scroll down to 2007 and you will see a photo of me holding the plaque (I am president of PTBA) giving the award to 2 members from CA acting on behalf of the CCC Historical Society.

    In 2006, we gave the award to the IMBA Trail Care Crew program. In 2005, we gave the award to the late Jim Angel who lived in Bend at the time. Jim lived at the 7th Mountain resort in his final years, how ironic that I would end up buying a condo at the same place (not knowing at that time that Jim used to live here).

    We hope to spend 6 months out here next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman
    DF,

    I am not aware of any CCC publications on trail building. I do have a friend and my first trail building mentor Bill Davendorf who was in the CCC, I can ask him if he has anything. Bill is 86 now but would have any documents that he received when he was in the CCC.

    I should point out that PTBA (Professional TrailBuilders Association) gave our Harvey Bell Award to the CCC in 2007 at our conference: http://www.trailbuilders.org/resourc...ell_award.html

    Scroll down to 2007 and you will see a photo of me holding the plaque (I am president of PTBA) giving the award to 2 members from CA acting on behalf of the CCC Historical Society.
    Woody
    Woodman. Pass along a sincere thanks to Bill and his fellow CCC men for all the fine trailwork they did back in the day. Can't be too many of those guys left. Their work was and is much appreciated.

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    Rode South Fork Sunday. Good job, folks! And thanks.

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    Did an out and back on S. Fork today to check out the bridge. It is great and will be fantastic once finished. Thanks to all involved! And see you all on Oct. 10th.

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