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    Orbea thread (with pix)

    My new bike


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    Orbea OIZ marathon

    fork: FOX F100 RL
    rear: MANITOU S-type SRL clickit remote

    cranks: FSA V-drive megaexo
    Shimano XT disc (except cranks and front derailleur LX)

    Mavic Crossmax enduro

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    Do you know the frame weight?

    It seem to be an S size and what is your tall?

    What is your feeling with this bike? Do you prefer your former rigid frame?

    Thanks

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    Nice bike luckyiron! Are those carbon seatstays working well?
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    1,9kg for the frame

    about 12,3kg for the whole bike (with pedals, barends and can-holder)

    The bike feels really great, it's a pleasure to ride this bike, much of comfort for the Belgian Ardens, the carbon flex system works very good, just enough flex.

    and those disk brakes: amazing

    new Fizik Gobi saddle installed.



    my collection

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    2006 Orbea Oiz UFO

    My Oiz pedal so awesome I sold off my 2005 Scape that weighed 20.5 lbs !
    19" Frame weighs 2157 gram / 4,755 lbs built up with stans wheels XTR Reba all the good stuff 21.9 lbs I had it down to 21.5 with lighter tires and a few other goodies it stays under 22 lbs all the time in Race trim bigger tires etc. I'm 44 years old and this is my favorite bike i've had like i said earlier I is so efficent that I sold my hardTAIL AND i AM BUILDING MYSELF A 5" TRAILBIKE , I switched the shock out to the SPV manitou and at 190 # I run the minimum in the SPV chamber,when I stand up to sprint the bike just moves out(forward) no bob the O Ring on the shock shaft moves abouta 1/4 " then I can go off the side of my driveway and drop off 22" inches and it lands like it has 5' inches of travel on bottom out ! this bike really does it all for short travel races bike !! It' a keeper !! goes along with a Yeti ASR-sl but lighter faster ! that saying alot !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by luckyiron
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    Sure, rub it in a little more, why don't ya?! *Drool*


    I love the Orbeas...

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    well just get your asses some juicy 7s and huck down a mountain. thoose v brakes will snap like my butt

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    Spy pics: Orbea Oiz Carbon





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    If only that came as a 29er!
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    Its a scapel

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    Quote Originally Posted by sikocycles
    Its a scapel
    It looks that way but it's not. I've ridden a Scalpel a little bit and I've ridden the Oiz (aluminum, 06 version) quite a bit. For one it has a Horst link, the Scalpel sure does not. It's way more responsive, active and efficient. And the Oiz just rides way better IMO. I've never been a fan of Cannondale's boingy, twitchy ride anyway but the Oiz rides smooth and tight.

    The new carbon version may be a different thing all together? The one thing that disappoints me is the cable routing - I hate it when Orbea (or others) runs the cables across the top the of top tube. Why not tuck them away under the TT where they're out of sight and out of mind, not to mention not snagging on my shorts! (The aluminum version tucked them underneath.) Orbea makes sweet bikes though, I'm always impressed with their bikes.

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    Hey look its a carbon scapel

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    Quote Originally Posted by k2biker
    If only that came as a 29er!
    Yeah, I'll second that. Actually, I need another way to spend my money like I need another hole in my head, so good thing it isn't.
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    Thats a cool Scalpel

    pretty weak on orbeas' part. Sorta like giants' trance is nothing but an IH hollowpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Fly
    I've never been a fan of Cannondale's boingy, twitchy ride anyway but the Oiz rides smooth and tight.
    Not taking anything away from the Orbea but usually, people commenting that Cannondales are twitchy are just not used to the superior tracking, stiffness and precision of Lefty and Headshok forks over bushing relying forks... They are just used to deal with floppy front ends... Especially true if it's a SID.

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    Cool-blue Rhythm New Orbea OIZ PV Wind in Croatia

    Finaly, here it is: my precious

    http://www.orbea.com/ingles/interior...a=15&modelo=52

    Price: 8.639 croatian weasels = 1.540 US$. A small fortune, but worth it. This bike gives the most bang for bucks in its category, and it is the best looking! All who disagree, come to Čakovec, Croatia and challenge me I know, the pics are crapy (phone). The paintjob is sooo hot & vibrant, I call it "Griotta Metallica" Haven't realy tested it in the dirt yet, it's so damn cold and raining. Gotta adjust sag, tire pressure, & stuff. First impression is:

    More info & pics comming soon.
    Greetings from Croatia!
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    double post

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    Hi to everybody...
    Finally found a dedicated place on the net for orbeas...
    So here is mine at 11.2kg



    Sorry about the big pic...

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    No one riding an Alma? I would like some impressions about that hardtail

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    Orbea Scape

    Here is my Orbea Scape.
    full 970 XTR
    All PRO components

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    That is a 1994 Specialized FSR. Even has the Horst-Link!

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    niceeeee

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    Quote Originally Posted by cruso414
    pretty weak on orbeas' part. Sorta like giants' trance is nothing but an IH hollowpoint.
    Your signature is pretty accurate.

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    does anyone know what fork that is on bettle21's bike?
    its neat looking

    thanks

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    yep it's a look fournales..

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    look fournales

    does any one know where ths fork can be purchased new hopefully in the us or even abroad in europe?

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    4 Seasons

    To bump up the thread here's my bike, on the same track all year long, ridden in all kinds of weather Going faster and faster, 2.800 km in 18 months.
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    Orbea Oiz- 06 frame/07 components

    Heres my Orbea (23 lb) which I just sold and will be getting the 08 frame.
    Here are more images:
    http://www.deltavelo.com/orbea_oiz.html

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    Hey Orbea guys and gals, anyone ever heard of an Orbea NeurAL Hot???? There's one for sale here locally that is definitely a one off thing for these parts. Toptube and seatstays are all one long piece so it has a twin toptube like an old Torker only the tubes are together. Then the seat tube is angled so it meets about 6" up from the BB so the front derailleur has a stub like a FS bike.
    This one is setup with a stout wheelset and a Nixon 145mm fork so it's like a HT shore bike.
    Keep thinking about getting it just because I like odd/weird bikes but the asking price is pretty stout also.

    BTW, Google is not your friend on this thing either, couldn't find squat that way.
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    Orbea Oiz- 06 frame/07 components


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    Quote Originally Posted by cicleto
    No one riding an Alma? I would like some impressions about that hardtail
    I had married Alma frame and Look Fournales Fork. It's lightweight and fast. Can't compare with any other carbon frame. I have TREK8500 with SID. This is far more lighter and faster especially when you ride uphill. And it doesn't shake off your insides even when long riding. I often do 200 km. and more.

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    never have heard of it.

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    Orbea Occam

    Does anyone have an experience with this frame/model?



    I had a Santa Cruz Superlight, but found the Medium too small and the Lg too big. The geometry on the Occam sits right in between both Superlight sizes and it will accomodate a 120mm fork to boot!

    I've scanned the forums, but Orbeas aren't very popular with MTB'ers....
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    I have a occam carbon and love it, There is nothing I can fault with the bike, it is light, 24.5 lbs (nothing but stock parts) for 140 front and back, they climb well, go down well and are sexy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Beater
    I have a occam carbon and love it, There is nothing I can fault with the bike, it is light, 24.5 lbs (nothing but stock parts) for 140 front and back, they climb well, go down well and are sexy.
    Thanks for the reply, but I thought the Occam was a 120mm F/R travel bike......

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    the new version is, The 2008 had a Fox Talas RL and from what I remember the back was the same as the front for travel however I have tried to find the specs on 2008 models and can't find them anywhere. /Shrug all I know is it is more then enough travel.

    I was torn between the OCCAM carbon and the Cannondale Rush Carbon 1 until I found out the Rush used bushing for the back end and the OCCAM used bearings. Both are simular, the Occams back end is a little stiffer and the Rush came with a lefty so the front would be stiffer.

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    I should also add that Orbea's workmanship on the frames is top notch, A guy I have ridden with had a Occam and loved it until it fell off his rack on the highway and got hit by a truck.

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    2008 Frame w/ 2009 parts

    So I sold the 06/07 white frame in the above post and put this together.

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    Is Looks nice with the cobalt wheels.

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    I'm looking for the Orbea Scape geometry sheet, I have lost it and need to compare the values with a Stevens frame I want to buy...
    Anyone has the geometry picture file??

    thanks

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    Excuse me, but Orbea is not a custom builder. I live in Spain, 20 miles far from Orbea's main headquarter. They produce their frames and components in Taiwan/China, just like Specialized, Trek, Scott, Mondraker, Merida, Pinarello, Pivot... just to let you know.
    http://69.175.91.178/~biciscl1/foro/(the reference in Spain)

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    Quote Originally Posted by turko1979
    Excuse me, but Orbea is not a custom builder. I live in Spain, 20 miles far from Orbea's main headquarter. They produce their frames and components in Taiwan/China, just like Specialized, Trek, Scott, Mondraker, Merida, Pinarello, Pivot... just to let you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the-one1
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    Ohhh... OK... excuse me.
    http://69.175.91.178/~biciscl1/foro/(the reference in Spain)

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    orbea oiz carbon

    hi guys! i m new of this forum, i registered here to share with us my bike, hope you like it..
    good ride to everyone,
    bye!
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    Those Oiz carbons are pure sex.

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    My Orbea Carbon Pro Oiz

    Hello fellow Orbea owners!! NEVER forget Orbea Rules!!! I'm a short stocky not as fast as I used to be rider and I just love my OIZ!! Orbea makes a real fine product! Once you ride one you won't want anything else!
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    compliments very cool..please post others pics!! do u have a riser bar?
    bike s weight?
    i love my orbea too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by momi1983
    compliments very cool..please post others pics!! do u have a riser bar?
    bike s weight?
    i love my orbea too!
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    Thanks Momi, mine came with a Zeus carbon riser bar, a Zeus carbon seatpost and an aluminum Zeus stem. Since this pic I put on a Easton EC90 sreatpost and a Fizik red aliante Cofidis team saddle. She is sweet! I'll post more pics soon. I did add Easton bar ends, as I really like/use barends cause they give me more resting places.
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    rider weight limit for the carbon OIZ?

    just wanna ask you guys, is the OIZ carbon frame have its rider weight limit?

    im currently 200lbs...

    tnx guys

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    New Orbea Alma H50

    Here is my new Alma H50.
    +XT Crankset
    +XT Brakes
    +Tubeless
    +1x10 conversion

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    Nice bike...enjoy the rides.

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    Best Anniversary Gift Ever!!!!!

    Sometimes your wife does listen Who knew......
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    Very nice ride and anniversary present!! Congrats!
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    http://forums.mtbr.com/picture.php?a...pictureid=2486

    I recently discovered Orbea bikes and I was lucky enough to demo the new Occam last weekend. I've always been curious about these bikes, I knew a guy that had one but they are impossible to find. I ride a Gary Fisher Wahoo now and I consider myself a solid intermediete rider, but this Occam allowed me to do so much more. After 4 hrs I was exhausted but I wanted to keep going. I'm hoping to get the aluminum version when they are available. I wish there was more info out there about these bikes.

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    Sorry pic didn't load correctly.

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    All the Occam goodness you could want.....maybe.

    Clicking this link will take you to Orbea's Youtube channel with all the Occam videos right there waiting to be watched. You can see everything from teaser videos to quality tests and some of our work with Fox to get the suspension tuned to perfection.

    We are hoping to see the alloy models very soon, and the carbon models very near the beginning of 2012.

    Call your dealer now to request the new Occam because our first shipment will not be very large.
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    A question to all ORBEA owners out there:
    I was looking at the ORBEA.COM website and they don't show the OIZ anymore. Anyone know why? Has it been discontinued? Is does anyone know why? not enough sales or problems with the frame, or........? Maybe OrbeaFrank can shed some light on this, perhaps?
    love the heck outta mine!! Thanks!
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    Hello, just kind of surprised no one has posted anything since last Nov. I've been given the OK by the doc to start ridding my OIZ again and while I was "down' added a RWC shock enduro bearing set. VERY smooth indeed, I really like it. I can't describe it other than "feels smoother". Anyone else done that with their bike?
    Had a question for Orbea Frank. I noticed on the Orbea website that they don't show the Oiz anymore. I gather it has been discontinued/ Wondered why, please? Low sales, broken frames, no interest fro ridding, or...? Thanx! I sure love mine!!
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    About Time

    I didn't get to ride much during the winter. I'm just now getting to ride on a regular basis and I think that I finally have the suspension dialed in!!!! This Rallon rides like a dream!!!! Way to go Orbea
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    Anybody have any 2012 Alma 29er's built up. I just bought a frame and getting ready to build it.

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    i got one build up.. its sleek but i am having some problem with pedal strike though

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    Hello all,

    Bought an Orbea Oiz a couple of years ago, and had no problems/worries with the BB/crank. Got a hip replacement revision in my rt hip and now when I ride, my leg "feels funny" (difficult to describe), but my rt knee goes "out" to the right. I had not paid attention until a few weeks ago that I replaced the BB bearings in the cups with Enduro bearings; that I have a 2.5mm spacer on the driveside bearing cup. I measured the BB it is 73mm, and I looked in the Truvative tech docs for the Giga X Pipe BB says that on a 73mm BB width uses NO spacers?????? I haven't taken it off or anything I just wondered if anyone else has seen similar/ or had to do similar because of chain line problems, or something?? Any info is greatly appreciated. THNX!!
    Oh and yea I am using the same shoes/cleat position as I did before my operation.
    I guess my question is does the OIZ need that spacer, or not?
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    Just bought my first MTB yesterday, Orbea Dakar Sport, will post some pics as soon as it stops raining. Great bike, absolutely love it.

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    very nice bike !!

    how does he ride ?

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    He rides very well, except for today I had the chain come off during shifting. I'm trying to get to my 10 post count so I can post a picture.

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    could be that the front dee need some tunning..

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    Yeah well, it's only a week old and I've only driven it maybe 30 minutes a day. I would have figured they would have adjusted it at the LBS

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    well, the shifter do need some tuning after you ride it a couple of time esp if it new.
    if u know to adjust the cable, a couple of turn to tighten up the cable will just do the trick. else the shop could just do it for u.

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    Yeah the shop told me to take it in after a month for a retune. I'll just have them do it for now, I'm still learning

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    Finally got enough posts for a pic, heres my 2012 Orbea Dakar Sport


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    Quote Originally Posted by IRONMAN1518 View Post
    Hello all,

    Bought an Orbea Oiz a couple of years ago, and had no problems/worries with the BB/crank. Got a hip replacement revision in my rt hip and now when I ride, my leg "feels funny" (difficult to describe), but my rt knee goes "out" to the right. I had not paid attention until a few weeks ago that I replaced the BB bearings in the cups with Enduro bearings; that I have a 2.5mm spacer on the driveside bearing cup. I measured the BB it is 73mm, and I looked in the Truvative tech docs for the Giga X Pipe BB says that on a 73mm BB width uses NO spacers?????? I haven't taken it off or anything I just wondered if anyone else has seen similar/ or had to do similar because of chain line problems, or something?? Any info is greatly appreciated. THNX!!
    Oh and yea I am using the same shoes/cleat position as I did before my operation.
    I guess my question is does the OIZ need that spacer, or not?
    Anyone out there have any answers for me please?
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    ORBEA OIZ with a NOIR crank question, please?

    I had posted that my OIZ (has a 73mm BB), came with a Noir crankset and on SRAM website instructions for the Noir say NO spacers on the BB if it is a 73 mm BB. Mine came with one and just wondered if anyone elses' did also and if you didn't anything about it?? Thanks in advance!
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    Subscribed. I'll be posting my Orbea Alma 29er real soon.
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    2 pictures of my Orbea OIZ in the French Alpes




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    Here we go! Finally took some pictures of my 2009 Orbea Alma 29er. Bought this frame used and built it last week. As it sits in the picture it weighs 20 pounds. Probably as light as its going to get without having to spend several hundred dollars upgrading parts.
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    Got it yesterday.....build thread in 29er forum.


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    Here's my brand-new Alma H30 on top of Emerald Park in North Little Rock, AR overlooking the State Capitol and the Arkansas River.


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    20 pound SS machine.
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    Does anyone know where online I can get the new 2013 Oiz frame/complete bike?

    I have been lookin a lot and there is not many retailers with actual in stock bikes/frames.

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    Loving it.


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    NICE Ride!
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    2010 Occam XC Race

    Just built up this beauty ...
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    Nice build.

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    Thanks ...

    Just completed a 650b conversion of this bike ... new Fox Float 32 140mm, Stan's Crest wheelset and Vee Rubber Mission 2.1's.
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    First ride on the new steed yesterday. 22 Mile shake down on the road, only to have it start raining when I got to the trails.
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    I wish we could get an Orbea forum. I am loving this bike so much.



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    Quick question guys, I have a 2012 Orbea Alma with the XT crankset which from Orbea comes with a FSA 24mm reducer.

    I want to install an XX crankset and I'm not sure of the clearance. Do I need to buy any spacers/adapters for the XX crankset?

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    Any Orbea Alma riders can answer my XX cransket question? I've also tried emailing Orbea but I haven't received a response yet. Thank you for any help you can provide.
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    If you are only about to buy new crankset I would suggest you to go with BB30 version (Q164). In that case you won't need any spacers. Just get rid of that FSA reducer and install new BB30 bearing set.

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    i had change them out to X0 BB30 crank.. just remove the FSA megaexo BB and install the BB30 bearing and use them.

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    Considering a frame in one of these. How does it handle?
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    Thank you guys, you've been of great help.
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    The 2012 Orbea Alma has been my only 29er hardtail so I don't have much experience with other bikes but I do tell you the following from experience. The Orbea handles a bit...mmmm rigid I guess you can call it, because of the way the shifter cables are setup in the front of the frame, the handle bar doesn't turn as free. I actually like this A LOT because I ride singletracks not trails, not lots of sharp turns, so the turns are smooooooth. I also recently found out that Orbea has a US shop in case you need to send your frame in, 2 weeks ago I hit the rear "guide" where the rear shifter cable goes and broke it off the frame, it uses really tiny rivets I didn't want to mess around with on a carbon frame. I would say the way the shifter cable in the back is setup is also a bad thing, compare to other brands that bring it through the inside of the rear tube, but it was mostly my fault, don't run into rocks. I LOVE the way the frame looks and how it fits, it feels aggresive and smooth. Over all I would buy this bike again and again, I don't like NINER because I know of 3 guys with broken frames, 2 of them have gone through 3 frames, under warranty of couse. I don't like Specialized because of the money and just because is an Specialized :P I do like the Santra Cruz. Did I say I like Orbeas?
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    New Orbea Alma Hydro build. X-post from 29er forum:


    2012 Orbea Alma Hydro size small. Mix of new and used parts from my Jabber. Sram x9 9 spd shifter; Avid speed dial levers; Avid BB7 calipers; race face bar; oury grips; easton seatpost; jagwire cable and housing; race face evolve cranks; Manitou recon 100mm air fork; WTB SSL saddle; spd pedals. Sram x7 RD; shimano 12-36 cassette.


    Initial ride impressions are very positive. Frame is very stiff without being "harsh". Coming off of the "long and low" jabberwocky, the geometry on this is night and day. I feel like I am actually piloting the bike, rather than riding a bucking bronco. I really like the shorter chainstays, as I don't feel like my rear end is swinging around and the bike moves effortlessly where I point it. I love how it carves. Climbs pretty well too. I may flip the stem, as it is a little higher than the saddle and I have to be sure to weight the front wheel to avoid wash out. Cockpit is much more comfortable than the Jabber. The low BB is the only "con" so far.

    Can't wait to take it out for more field testing tomorrow. Big smile on my face while riding!

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    Side by side with the Jabber....The Jabber was just too long on both ends for me. I was too stretched.






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    Next SL 1x10 conversion!


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    My rallon v4, just built up a couple of days ago, not ridden yet.

    Does anyone have any experience with the bos shock and what sort of setting suit the bike?

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    My 2014 Orbea Alma H50

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    Anyone own the Entry level Orbea MXs 29er? Any feedback would be great.
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    Also couldn't fine any info on 2014 Model MX in comparison to the 2015 Model, this really sucks... =(

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