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    Whoa! Carbon 456 Evo

    On-One 456 Evo Carbon Shimano Deore Mountain Bike | Planet X

    I can't say it's the prettiest thing I've ever seen am interested to see how it looks with a higher end build.

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    I saw that. 16" in orange sold out already. I am curious to hear ride reports about the new carbon frame.

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    Hey just curious to hear anyone's thoughts on sizing. I'm 5'9" with 30" inseam. I am between the 16" and 18" size according to the site.

    I normally ride Medium/17" bikes (specialized) and am pretty comfortable on my 18" Fatty (on-one) However, the ETT and standover of the 16" 456 carbon evo seem better to me than the specs of the 18" version. (standover on the 18 is scary for my friends below)

    Just curious on others' thoughts about which way they'd go?

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    Whoa! Carbon 456 Evo

    Well... Breathing a little life into this thread... My build seems to be coming along nicely... Whoa! Carbon 456 Evo-imageuploadedbytapatalk1398443259.161773.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by bad andy View Post
    Well... Breathing a little life into this thread... My build seems to be coming along nicely... Click image for larger version. 

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    Looks nice, I wish I could swap out my original 456C for the Evo for the new geo. Do you think that the new frame will clear 650b wheels/tires like the old 456c?

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    Whoa! Carbon 456 Evo

    "Looks nice, I wish I could swap out my original 456C for the Evo for the new geo. Do you think that the new frame will clear 650b wheels/tires like the old 456c?"

    +1. I am interested in knowing this also.

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    Without having a 650b wheel on hand to test accurately, I took some pics with a spare 26" mounted.... hopefully this helps you judge the clearance. I'm just guessing, but it looks like both chain & seatstays will accommodate the added height of 650b, but you will possibly need to consider the width of the tire you're mounting. What you see are Kenda Nevegal in 2.35". Also bear in mind, there are a set of sliding dropouts available for this frame, so you could possibly go that route to do 650b is clearance does pose an issue.


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    Bad Andy - Thanks for the pics. In my opinion it looks like the 650b wheels will clear, but it may be limited to a 2.25 size tire. When you get a chance could you measure the BB height with your setup (looks like 26"x2.35" tires and a 140mm Fox fork)? I'm curious how much lower the BB is than the old 456c.

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    Will do, FYI it's a Fox 34 @ 150mm travel. Measured axle-to-crown on my fork is about 537mm

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    It's pretty much built at this point, barring tweaks to do after the shakedown ride. Using spare wheels until it's proper ones show up. Had to trim the rear brake line so I took the opportunity to learn how to do that and bleed the brakes as well. Nice. It's amazing how cleaning up some wonky cables up front can really tie the bike together

    Glad I went with the 16". Seems to fit great, I'll post up pics later and take the BB measurement as well.

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    Well Andy, your pics have just made up my mind on ordering the grey frame. I'm looking forward to seeing the built pics.

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    Here's a pic of the BB height. Looks to be just about 13" even.

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    And here's a bad pic of the built bike. I'll take better pics when the real wheels come in.

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    26 lbs 13 oz

    456 carbon evo frame 16"
    RF sixc handlebar
    Thomson 4x stem 70mm
    cane creek 40 series zs44/ec49 headset
    oury grips blue
    Fox 34 float. 150mm. 2014 internals
    Specialized Command Post blacklite
    Charge Spoon saddle
    Truvativ X9 cranks and BB (gxp)
    spider/gears replaced by XKM single chainring 32T (gxp)
    Point One podium pedals
    Bionicon c.guide chain device
    XMC x10sl chain
    Sram 1070 cassette 11-36

    waiting on LB wider 26" wheelset w/blue hope hubs

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    Very nice. Went in to on-one today for a proper look. Just got to wait for stock to arrive

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    Back in stock and order placed.

    How's it riding? There's no reviews on this frame so was a little nervous pulling the trigger.

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    update: so far so good. I like it. Coming off the fatty for the last 6 months - the most adjustment was required to adapt to riding a sus fork again. The bike rides great and I'm happy I went with the 16" size, considering I was borderline. It must be big for a 16, so it works great for me. I usually ride medium's/17" in other brands (specialized) and my fatty is an 18". So take that for what it's worth I guess. Enjoying the bike, it feels like a razor in corners - nice and stiff and reactive. I haven't been jostled around in the bumps badly either so maybe the carbon is doing it's dampening thing? I recall some reports from original carbon 456 owners saying that it was harsh but I can't say I've experienced any unexpected harshness with this bike. YMMV but it feels great to me.

    Still waiting on the proper carbon wheels I'd ordered 6 weeks ago but just got the shipping notice. Anxious to get them mounted.

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    Sounds good. Mines sat waiting on a few bits to get it built up and debating whether to bother with heli tape.

    I'm looking forward to that first ride, this frame is half the weight of stumpjumper fsr frame its replacing.

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    loving mine so far. it's made a great all round trail bike. just fitted 1x10 transmission which seems to suit it perfectly

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    Cool-blue Rhythm 456 carbon evo build on 650b

    hi! just finished my 456c evo build. kitted out with fox 32 CTD 150mm, hope race evo brakes, hope pro evo 2 on arch ex rims 650b, x fusion dropper seat post ,Whoa! Carbon 456 Evo-2014-08-31-14.27.18.jpgWhoa! Carbon 456 Evo-2014-08-31-14.27.40.jpgWhoa! Carbon 456 Evo-2014-08-31-14.28.42.jpgsram x1 drivetrain. excited to try it out!
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    nice. is there plenty of clearance for the 650b? there looks to be on mine judging on the amount of room around my 26's. just thinking of future upgrades

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    I never updated with completed pics did I? The bike has been great the past few months. Still rides awesome, still super-fun. 650b may fit but I'm not really concerned with that (yet)

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    ive installed 2.2 nobby nics and there's more than enough clearance. I've ridden it and it rides really well. the only thing really noticeable for me was the height of the bottom bracket. its +/- 13 inches! pedal strikes are non existent. its brilliant. i can provide photos if requested

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    Quote Originally Posted by Punto Pete View Post
    nice. is there plenty of clearance for the 650b? there looks to be on mine judging on the amount of room around my 26's. just thinking of future upgrades
    yup there's enough clearance for a 650b wheel.

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    its unlikely i'll change to 650b due to the costs involved, ie wheels, forks (or new lowers) and tyres. but its nice to have the option for if i get to upgrade the forks to a set of pikes.

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    Thank you for the pics and details Bad Andy
    I'm 5'9" just like you but with a 31" inseam. I ride a 2013 16" Dartmoor Hornet just perfect for me and comparing both effective top tubes i would have to order a 18" 456c Evo to keep the same length. Worse, i'm thinking about going with a 50mm stem instead of the 70mm i have on the Hornet to compensate the 456c slacker head angle, so it seems that the 16" really wouldn't make it for me. What do you think? Could other 456c Evo owners publish here their height, inseam, frame size and feelings please

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    More pics please!

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    Hi,
    I'm from Spain and I'm interested in an on one carbon 456 evo frame, but I have a doubt about it.
    I have a DT swiss wheelset that I want to use in the frame, but it has an 142x12 Thru axle. And the frame (i suppouse) is 135x9mm
    Is there a swapout dropout machined to use with 142x12 axles?
    Or any other solution?

    Thanks

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    Just standard 135mm qr dropouts available for this frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxipogs View Post
    ive installed 2.2 nobby nics and there's more than enough clearance. I've ridden it and it rides really well. the only thing really noticeable for me was the height of the bottom bracket. its +/- 13 inches! pedal strikes are non existent. its brilliant. i can provide photos if requested
    Yes! More photos of clearance with 650bs please!!!

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    Bumpin it back to life! great builds on this thread. I am considering this frame, pretty hard to argue with the cost (though Im late, 18s are gone).

    I noticed the chainstay on the 18" is 427mm, seems long, as well as the top tube length being 603, which is longish. How has this been feeling for folks with some saddle time? paired with that slack head angle is ok?

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    427mm is long for 26/650b... many AM 29er HT's are in that range. Canfield Yelli is 424mm
    I like 'em long, low, slack and playful

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    I wouldn't call it long - average for that type of bike yes - but long - no.

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    Fair, not a huge difference, although 5-8mm in a chainstay is certainly noticeable. It seems like most other "aggressive" hardtails I have been eying up fall more towards the 415-4
    20mm range at an 18" frame, (im thinking most chromag whips, cotic, stanton, etc.) My interest is really in the fact that this seems to be built as an "all mountain" frame, so certainly there was considerable thought put into the geometry. It is a sweet deal, is it a sweet ride?

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    here's mine, it's a 16".

    remember it's not always about having the shortest chainstays, longer ones offer more stability.




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    And here's my stealth bling machine, just finished yesterday.
    18" Carbon frame, bars, seatpost and even forks (Dt Swiss EXC150 with custom painted matt black lowers to go with the black n' gold colour scheme).
    Not weighed it yet but it's bloody light!

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    I'm actually looking to sell this bike straight away while it's new so anyone interested, get in touch

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    Has anyone tried 27.5+ in this bike? Or would it raise the BB too much?

    I also think 26+ would be awesome for this bike.

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    Don't think you'll get much more than a 2.4-2.5 on the rear safely in 26 inch wheel size. 27.5 fits a 2.3 butcher fine on a narrow rim, but definitely not gonna accommodate a 27.5 + tire.

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    Hey is anyone here with the carbon 456 evo able to provide a long term review of the frame and/or interested in selling (looking at the 16" frame) ?

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    Whoa! Carbon 456 Evo

    Just putting one together with 650b wheels and rigid fork, been missing my rigid single speed Lurcher. This will be a lot more fun at the pump track and trail riding with the kids.[IMG]http://uploads.tapatalk-


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    Hi!
    i'm interested with buy this frame.
    I have an 27.5 "hardtail and i would like to be sure that i can fit 650b wheel on these frame.
    Usually use 27.5x2.20 / 2.25 tyres like ikon or ardent race. Can i fit properly in this frame?
    Forgive my bad English, i'm from spain...
    Thanks a lot.

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    I have 2.25 tires with plenty of clearance, my 650B wheels are narrow though but I don't think you'd have a problem with a wide rim at 2.25.


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    Should be fine, put a 2.4 up front and 2.3 butcher on back on 650 xt rims.

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    Ok!
    And, put a 27.5" 120mm reba in this frame is fine or is better looking at new fork (140mm sr epicon for eg.).

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    So... The frame is paid and traveling to Spain.
    Black matt.

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    I ended up putting a 140 Pike on the front and seems to ride really well.



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    Is there any way to remove these clips?

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    Whoa! Carbon 456 Evo

    It's a rivet so you could drill it out and you would have a small hole in your frame.
    The plastic cable clip pops right off.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MTBMILES View Post
    It's a rivet so you could drill it out and you would have a small hole in your frame.
    The plastic cable clip pops right off.


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    drill? on my new and first carbon frame? it's so dangerous . on one could put a bolt or something....
    Thanks mtbmiles.
    PS: this fork will be the frame's partner. RS sektor gold 27.5 140mm

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    That looks nice, it's a fun bike. I'll try and post a picture of mine soon.


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    Hello, With 27.5x2.25 tyres, the BB height is 34.5cm... in my first ride i feel like riding a horse. In my ex XC bike i had 30cm BB height, i usually hit rocks, but more stable in high speeds and cornering. maybe..... 34.5cm BB is too hight?

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    Mine is 33.34 or 13 1/8". I'm running a pike 140 fork. I imagine once you have 30% SAG or so on your fork it would be pretty minimal?


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    Quote Originally Posted by MTBMILES View Post
    Mine is 33.34 or 13 1/8". I'm running a pike 140 fork. I imagine once you have 30% SAG or so on your fork it would be pretty minimal?


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    Aahh ok! I measured unsaged. now, with my weight, the bb height is ok, about 33cm (13"). furthermore... glups... it was so close!


    is a oval chainring 34T, so the maximun oval chainring in this frame is 32T.
    I just ordered a 34t round, meanwhile, i do a homemade spacer.

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    I put a 34 Wolftooth oval on mine and it is really close as well, I think I have a bottom bracket spacer in there too. Chain line isn't bad though.


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    Whoa! Carbon 456 Evo

    Finally sharing a couple pics, running a one by nine drivetrain with the Wolftooth 34 oval upfront. I ended up buying me a On One Knuckle Bar after my cheap Chinese carbon bars broke while jumping. The bike is a lot of fun, I put it together with some used parts so I can do some trail rides with my kid and ride the pump tracks.






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    Hi guys Newbie and just introduced myself on the General thread.
    Can anyone tell me what the finish is like on the matt stealth please? I've read that flakes off and scratches easy particularly on the MK1 version of this frame.
    On one have one left in my size so I might take a punt.

    Thanks

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    The finish on mine is really nice, on par with some other big brand bikes I've bought.



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    This frame is AWESOME. PS: i bought the last matt frame in 16"!.

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    Thanks for the replies. Ended up getting the black and orange as all the stealth frames had gone. Have to say the finish on the paint is really nice. My only gripe is the multitude of cable guides and they're positioning. Until I decide to get a dropper post most of them will be redundant with a 1x10 set up. I've also tried my girl friend 650 rear wheel in the frame and there was ample room with 2.25 rocket rons. Could easy go a bit fatter.

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    hey!
    Last week i broke my rear wheel... I dont know how is say in english, in a few words, i broke the rim because a stone hit them.
    So, meanwhile i am looking for a new wheel, i am desinging a new dropouts.
    Why? Because my BB height is about 34.5cm (13.6"). Last mounth i drive a bike with 12" and... just love it. 13.6 is too hight. (I have 27.5" wheels and 2.30 tires).
    So, in autocad i am designing two new dropouts that will lower the BB height. The axle (thru axle 10mm) will be in the red point. (stolen photo )

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    Yeah, weird place. I hope it doesnt break.
    Tomorrow or monday, i will send to a... Metal carpenter? (Sorry, i still have poor english) for machining the dropouts.
    If all goes well, I can send the autocad file if someone asks me about them.
    bye!
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