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    have these landed yet?

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    I'd like to see a shootout between the On One and the Niner Air 9 C. Both built as single speeds with the same components. Anyone done a comparison yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rsrevo View Post
    have these landed yet?
    The Lurchers just arrived in the warehouse this morning. Will be up on the US shop site shortly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    The Lurchers just arrived in the warehouse this morning. Will be up on the US shop site shortly.

    that's great, do you know what color scheme you guys got?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsrevo View Post
    that's great, do you know what color scheme you guys got?
    The frames are raw carbon. Confirming the price before we post them in the shop site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    The frames are raw carbon. Confirming the price before we post them in the shop site.

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    New plan. We are going to paint the frames.
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    "we're going to paint them" more smoke and mirror's, they're just stringing us along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benbarts View Post
    "we're going to paint them" more smoke and mirror's, they're just stringing us along.
    We are as frustrated by the delays with the Lurcher as you are. The frames are here. I doubt anyone would be happy with the lack of finish. I would not.

    Below I am holding the frame I photographed for the pic I posted earlier, and a few of the others in the shipment.
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    Are these all single speed? Swapouts are removable so can be geared right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kikoreta View Post
    Are these all single speed? Swapouts are removable so can be geared right?
    You can use any of the Swapouts, geared (vertical with hanger) or singlespeed (track tips). The frames do not have derailleur housing guides. There is a*high direct mount for the front derailleur.
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    Shiggy, thanks for doing that. So what is the timeline of painted frames available to pre-order?

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    Quote Originally Posted by benbarts View Post
    Shiggy, thanks for doing that. So what is the timeline of painted frames available to pre-order?
    Maybe next week. More likely first week in January.
    We are getting quotes for the painting now. Once we decide on a painter we can set the price and delivery date.
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    Fair enough, Brant. Hope this all works out sooner than later.
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    Proper transparency is good. We've been very open and continue to be so as we like it.
    Painting locally is a hurdle we didnt expect to have to overcome, but we wanted to move forward with this project.
    The 18in no guide frame is a puzzle to me but an anachronism created by our former designer.

    Thanks for your concerns, but honesty will get us there.

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    Overall the most of the new carbon projects have been a bit of a drama, from both 29ers and the wheel set to the rims which never came. Transparency is good and deserves respect, but timelines need to be set more realistically (Lurcher slipped, like, a year or so?). What ever happened to those 200 quid carbon rims is another thing, they appeared, and then it became silent..

    So, just make the planning+comms as good as your products and everyone will be happy ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by figo View Post
    Overall the most of the new carbon projects have been a bit of a drama, from both 29ers and the wheel set to the rims which never came. Transparency is good and deserves respect, but timelines need to be set more realistically (Lurcher slipped, like, a year or so?). What ever happened to those 200 quid carbon rims is another thing, they appeared, and then it became silent..

    So, just make the planning+comms as good as your products and everyone will be happy ;-)
    yup.

    the 456 and whippet came through well and other things got backed up.

    moving forward again now

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    Can you keep/sell some of the unpainted ones? I'd actually prefer a raw looking carbon frame..

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    Quote Originally Posted by grrrah View Post
    Can you keep/sell some of the unpainted ones? I'd actually prefer a raw looking carbon frame..
    From what I understand, the carbon should at least be clear coated for long term durability.
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    let us know right away when and where we can pre-order

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    Any info on the Lurcher paint project?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nor View Post
    Any info on the Lurcher paint project?
    I just dropped off frames at the painter to do a sample.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grrrah View Post
    Can you keep/sell some of the unpainted ones? I'd actually prefer a raw looking carbon frame..
    We can/will sell you an unpainted one.
    Please drop us an email at;
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    and we can sort it out for you.

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    Got this directly from On-One today, getting real tired of being jerked around....

    Dear

    You requested a stock alert from On-One on 20-12-2011.

    We're sorry to say that On-One Lurcher Carbon Hardtail 29er Singlespeed Frame 18 inch / Black and Red has now been discontinued. We are not expecting to get any more in stock.

    We usually discontinue an item when it is superseded by an alternative. Check out our site to see what's currently available or contact us to let us find you an alternative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benbarts View Post
    Got this directly from On-One today, getting real tired of being jerked around....

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    You requested a stock alert from On-One on 20-12-2011.

    We're sorry to say that On-One Lurcher Carbon Hardtail 29er Singlespeed Frame 18 inch / Black and Red has now been discontinued. We are not expecting to get any more in stock.

    We usually discontinue an item when it is superseded by an alternative. Check out our site to see what's currently available or contact us to let us find you an alternative.
    super. fvcking. lame.

    i'm glad i gave up on the Lurcher when I did.
    I wonder if the two that showed as in stock on the On-One website actually got sold and shipped or if they just pulled the plug on the whole deal.

    seems like they need to get their cart and horse in the correct order. what a shame...
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    Quote Originally Posted by benbarts View Post
    Got this directly from On-One today, getting real tired of being jerked around....

    Dear

    You requested a stock alert from On-One on 20-12-2011.

    We're sorry to say that On-One Lurcher Carbon Hardtail 29er Singlespeed Frame 18 inch / Black and Red has now been discontinued. We are not expecting to get any more in stock.

    We usually discontinue an item when it is superseded by an alternative. Check out our site to see what's currently available or contact us to let us find you an alternative.
    Ben - give us a call on 650-284-5563.
    We have just received into our US office two clear coated 18" Lurcher frames with more being clear coated right now.

    Thank you,
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    Shipped raw (unknown until arrival) from factory. No QC, I guess. Then sprayed clear by a (local) painter (with unknown experience painting carbon bikes) and now available for sale (to the gullible) on the Titus website.

    No thanks. More in the long line of Lurcher f-ups. Not the best way to get your first frames out into the (uncontested) land of liability lawsuits.

    You should just give them away to people in the know. You know enough of them. Then start over and do it right. But it would seem it would have been possible to start over 3 or 4 times in the duration of this bait-and-switch.

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    Hi all.

    It doesn't look too good does it.

    All this is quite agonising as the back story to how we got here is littered with unfortunate mistakes and things we've learnt a lot.

    A few points:-

    1) These aren't our "first" carbon frames- The Lurcher is coming from the same factory as our 456 Carbon and Whippet frames. Both very highly regarded and confusing the heck out of lots of people who are puzzled as to why we can offer amazing product (3.5lb 160mm fork compatible hardtail) for a ridiculous low price (from £299).

    2) The factory we work with are great. I was there myself two weeks ago. The reason for the delays was a puzzling confusion from our somewhat junior purchasing team who were running our department at the time, and a Chinglish/English confusion about what "schedule" and "forecast" meant. Essentially the factory made nearly 4000 Whippet/C456 frames, and then (clearly) were reluctant to start Lurcher production until we had cleared that backlog.

    3) Frames arriving "unknown until arrival" in the USA is because (possibly uniquely in the bicycle industry), the "global nerve centre" of the on-one business is Rotherham, near Sheffield, England. Our chaps in our Portand warehouse are somewhat at the whims of what our current purchasing team book and put in a container for them. And to be fair, we did clear out a LOT of frames (including some of the 4000 Whippet and C456 frames) from China straight into Portland.

    4) QC. All taken care of structurally. And QC on frame finish is done at our side/before dispatch, so we can inspect for shipping damage which might have occurred on the way.

    5) Our production colours for Lurchers don't include red/black, (black/grey, black/orange, black/green are production), but as to why our clever stock system can't tell people that if someone unticks the box to say whether stock is available or not is something that I've tasked someone with this morning.

    Other frame models are available. We've got a bunch of riders out on early production samples and we're loving them. We're close. And we thank you all for your support and interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deltasierra View Post
    ...Then sprayed clear by a (local) painter (with unknown experience painting carbon bikes)...
    Then sprayed by a local painter that has years of experience painting carbon, steel, and aluminum bicycles. He currently paints carbon frames for several other companies. He was not picked at random.
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    And that super painter is? Brant said total transparencywas the story going forward. Post it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deltasierra View Post
    And that super painter is? Brant said total transparencywas the story going forward. Post it up.
    Color Works Bike Painting in Eugene, OR

    And he use to be the main painter for Co-Motion
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    Tough crowd. Most bike companies wouldn't spend anything like this much time trying to communicate with customers on a public forum. It's sad to see no good deed go unpunished...
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    Quote Originally Posted by deltasierra View Post
    And that super painter is? Brant said total transparencywas the story going forward. Post it up.
    I'll be having a shower in ten minutes. Do you want to come and watch that too?

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    Sorry for being dense but I'm loosing track of this, will a swap drop out 16" frame ever be available as the current unpainted Lurcher frame? yes/no

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    Quote Originally Posted by dblspeed View Post
    Sorry for being dense but I'm loosing track of this, will a swap drop out 16" frame ever be available as the current unpainted Lurcher frame? yes/no

    thanks

    YES

    And unfortunately, in the process of adding the "soon to arrive" frames to our site, our staff appear to have deleted the old ones and sent out "discontinued" alerts.

    We are looking into this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brant View Post
    I'll be having a shower in ten minutes. Do you want to come and watch that too?
    No, but can I send a legal representative to record it for posterity (or posteriority)?

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    Well Said

    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    Tough crowd. Most bike companies wouldn't spend anything like this much time trying to communicate with customers on a public forum. It's sad to see no good deed go unpunished...
    I dont think I have ever heard of or seen this amount of feedback from the source as Brant and Shiggy have provided.

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    Lurcher page is now open on the on-one site.

    On-One Lurcher Carbon Hardtail 29er Frame £499.99

    All customers who received the "discontinued" email were emailed by me personally this afternoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjmtb1 View Post
    I dont think I have ever heard of or seen this amount of feedback from the source as Brant and Shiggy have provided.
    Agreed...

    The Lurcher looks pretty cool. I'll be keen to read reviews on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    Agreed...

    The Lurcher looks pretty cool. I'll be keen to read reviews on it.
    Reviews here:-

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    Quote Originally Posted by brant View Post
    Thanks....ask and you shalt receive....

    Don't make any small frames in hot pink or my GF will want one....
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    Quote Originally Posted by brant View Post
    I'll be having a shower in ten minutes. Do you want to come and watch that too?
    Not my thing, but a firehose turned on Stevo is a video I'd love to see. I am quite aware of the source of the initial problem. Now just fix them. The shipment to Portland, however, just seems like more Stevo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brant View Post
    Lurcher page is now open on the on-one site.

    On-One Lurcher Carbon Hardtail 29er Frame £499.99

    All customers who received the "discontinued" email were emailed by me personally this afternoon.
    Should come with both swapouts, or an option for the one that is wanted.

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    Site says one set of bottle bosses. Pictures show two. More imperfection. What is it?

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    On-One Lurcher...-oo_lurcher_frame_clear_3.jpg
    On-One Lurcher...-oo_lurcher_frame_clear_2.jpg
    As shown:
    Clear gloss finish
    Two bottle mounts
    External rear brake line guides
    No derailleur housing guides
    High direct mount front derailleur boss (housing stop is on the derailleur)
    Press fit BB92
    Swapouts not installed, but included with frame
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    Quote Originally Posted by deltasierra View Post
    Site says one set of bottle bosses. Pictures show two. More imperfection. What is it?
    Brant working late/hurried.

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    I should know this as Ed borrowed my drill to remove his seat tube bosses ones AND HASN'T GIVE ME MY DRILL BACK YET.

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    A few questions for you guys. The pics only show cable guides on the Black/Orange. Are there cable guides on all the frames? Or do I have to ask for them? Should I order from your UK site or from the US site? How do I know witch swapouts it comes with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulser View Post
    A few questions for you guys. The pics only show cable guides on the Black/Orange. Are there cable guides on all the frames? Or do I have to ask for them? Should I order from your UK site or from the US site? How do I know witch swapouts it comes with?
    None of the frames currently in the US have dérailleur housing guides.
    We will have US preorder for the painted frames available soon.
    I have not seen the UK stock.
    Just let us know which Swapouts you need.
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    Site says one set of bottle bosses. Pictures show two. More imperfection. What is it?
    Wow. Thank goodness we have flawless individuals such as yourself monitoring these crucial details in our troubled times. Without your efforts, those negligent On One scofflaws would have us slide back into the dark ages.
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    @Brant
    The rigid fork is only available in red/black. Why has the red/black color sheme been discontinued actually? Is it coming back anytime soon? And what about the other colors, will there be matching forks?

    @Titus USA
    Depending on the color 'situation' above, i am considering getting an 'unpainted' frame as well. when would be the latest date to order/arrange such a clear-cloated-only frame?

    best regards,
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