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    On One DeeDar

    Next evolution of the 456's or a completely new beast?

    Hardtail Enduro Hooligan | On-One Bikes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enduramil View Post
    Next evolution of the 456's or a completely new beast?

    Hardtail Enduro Hooligan | On-One Bikes
    On the fence between this, the Orange Crush, and Transition TransAm...
    The DeeDar is at least $250 less than the others.
    Wish there was more info/review online.

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    Surprised there's not more chatter about this!! Looks cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reformed roadie View Post
    On the fence between this, the Orange Crush, and Transition TransAm...
    The DeeDar is at least $250 less than the others.
    Wish there was more info/review online.
    believe transAm was discontinued for 2017

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    I have discovered that as well- I went to get fitted for a trans am yesterday and was informed they were discontinued AND out of remaining 2016s. Very disappointed. So I am looking at on one deedar instead. Maybe others. I want to hear more about the dee dar!

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    I too would like to see more... really not much info besides the manufacturers specs.

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    So has anyone got this bike yet. Would like to read some real world reviews.

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    If I was looking for a 27.5 steel AM HT today... I'd probably buy the DeeDar. Looks great.
    I like 'em long, low, slack and playful

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    I've been on the DeeDar for prolly a month and a half now. Couldn't be happier with it. It's a good bit longer up front than the 456. I normally buy xl frames, but took a chance on the large, which feels great to me. I'm coming off a DB Mason, which is an alloy 29er version of the same thing. Love the compliance and handling of the DeeDar. From last night's ride:



    I should note that I am running it with a non standard setup, sporting 26"x47mm wheels and 2.4 tires. Gonna try some 2.8's for fitment in a few days. BB is 12.x" with this setup, so it rails corners like no other. I've used it everywhere from the skate park, to the jumps, the street, and trails from XC to dh. It's seen 15+ foot gaps and ~6 foot drops.

    I do short trail highlights videos from time to time. These two were shot on the DeeDar, one in Arkansas, and the second in my home state of Michigan.





    I wouldn't mind if it were designed around the boost standard, and allowed even more clearance, but it's a great bike nonetheless, and for the price... it's like you're losing money if you don't buy it. ;-)

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    Those r some nice trails! I just built a Deedar but like how u went with 26x47 wheels!

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    Here's a pic of my Deedar. Can't wait to take it out! On One DeeDar-image.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllMountin' View Post
    I've been on the DeeDar for prolly a month and a half now. Couldn't be happier with it. It's a good bit longer up front than the 456. I normally buy xl frames, but took a chance on the large, which feels great to me. I'm coming off a DB Mason, which is an alloy 29er version of the same thing. Love the compliance and handling of the DeeDar.

    I should note that I am running it with a non standard setup, sporting 26"x47mm wheels and 2.4 tires. Gonna try some 2.8's for fitment in a few days. BB is 12.x" with this setup, so it rails corners like no other. I've used it everywhere from the skate park, to the jumps, the street, and trails from XC to dh. It's seen 15+ foot gaps and ~6 foot drops.

    I do short trail highlights videos from time to time. These two were shot on the DeeDar, one in Arkansas, and the second in my home state of Michigan.

    I wouldn't mind if it were designed around the boost standard, and allowed even more clearance, but it's a great bike nonetheless, and for the price... it's like you're losing money if you don't buy it. ;-)
    I've been on an Inbred for several years and I've been wanting something longer and more slack. The Dee-Dar caught my attention, but I am sticking with 26" wheels, so I didn't think it was an option. You mention the BB height is over 12". My BB is roughly 12 3/8" and I'm happy there. So this may be a good option! Are you getting many pedal strikes? Any chance you could post some pictures? I'd really be interested in a profile showing the wheels and clearance. Great videos by the way!

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    Whats the difference between the 4560b and the DeeDar? and what makes the DeeDar (according to On One website) the next level 45650B?

    I'm looking at cost and the tried and true 45650b is $100 USD cheaper. And the DeeDar is made for only a 140mm Fork. Just trying to figure out if its worth it or if the 45650 offers the same qualities for cheaper?

    any opinions ?

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    Looks like the DeeDar is a 142x12 rear instead of 135x10. 45650b is set up to run a front derailer, the DeeDar isn't. The 45650b has rack mounts, the DeeDar doesn't. The DeeDar adds internal cable routing for a dropper and is spec-ed for a 130 - 160mm fork. 45650b says 100 - 150mm fork.

    DeeDar looks to have a bit slacker head angle and steeper seat tube angle as well. Based on the geometry spec, it looks like a 130mm Pike would get the DeeDar to its spec-ed geometry so going towards the longer end of the suggested fork range would make it significantly slacker than the 45650b.

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    Sorry for the delay, but here are a few pics of clearance out back with 26+. Tire is 2.6" actual, or 66mm.







    Loads of clearance up top, and about 1/4" average at the chainstays. I eyeballed the dish on my wheels, so a little more on the non drive side for me. Prolly an inch or more clearance for height at the chainstay yoke.

    Fit and finish is notably better on this frame than my 456 Evo. More modern geo, with longer front center. Keep in mind that the travel versatility is just marketing. There were no adjustable bits on the Evo, so bb height and angles are compromised at longer/shorter travel, or for all travels.
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    I barrowed some RF 40mm wheels and 27.5x2.8 Maxxis Reckon from my good friend at Woodside Bike Shop, Woodside CA. Put them on the Deedar for testing and its extremely close but was fun. I did get some rub on lower arm near BB. Enjoy the pics
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    Just got my frame, waiting on other bits to build it up, I'm measuring the BB shell as 73mm not 68mm as it says on their website...
    Is it me that's got this wrong!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eandrew View Post
    BBQ shell as
    Pork or brisket? Maybe smoked turkey?!
    I like 'em long, low, slack and playful

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    Stupid autocorrect! Go ninja edit

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    Quote Originally Posted by eandrew View Post
    Just got my frame, waiting on other bits to build it up, I'm measuring the BB shell as 73mm not 68mm as it says on their website...
    Is it me that's got this wrong!?
    No, you're right. I had a brand new BB in the listed size, but had to throw in a used BB because it didn't fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eandrew View Post
    BBQ shell
    Quote Originally Posted by 06HokieMTB View Post
    Pork or brisket? Maybe smoked turkey?!
    73mm if pork; 68mm if smoked turkey. Pork is a fatty meat

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    I did kinda question it being listed as 68mm on their site, considering the older 456 frames all use a 73mm BB shell.

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    I thought the BB was 68mm as well but in the end, just needed one spacers on non drive side. 👍

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    It is 73mm on mine. Spec on the web may be wrong...

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    All built up and looking good! A pulled hamstring is stopping me actually ride just yet, but soon!

    Next stupid question is, do I really have to undo the 3mm bolt on the other side of the lever every time I want to take out the back wheel! I genuinely can't see how else it works!

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    Looks great but whats the weight of the frame like?? proper heavy, feel slow?


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    Let me put it like this...
    I've picked up frames before, and thought, wow, that's light...

    I didn't with this one

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    To bad On One doesn't offer the drops outs in other axle formats.

    Now the difficult choice.....replace the stolen Chromag Stylus with a Deedar or a 45650b

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    According to the On-One website:

    "The rear drops are bolt in units as well. So you'll be able to swap between different axle options once all this wheel standards nonsense settles down- we like 12x 142 for now so that's what you get out of the box."

    Dee-Dar frame

    Compared to the 45650B, the Dee-Dar has a longer reach, taller stack height, and lower BB. That sounds like the better choice to me. They're both currently on sale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j0hn View Post
    According to the On-One website:

    "The rear drops are bolt in units as well. So you'll be able to swap between different axle options once all this wheel standards nonsense settles down- we like 12x 142 for now so that's what you get out of the box."

    Dee-Dar frame

    Compared to the 45650B, the Dee-Dar has a longer reach, taller stack height, and lower BB. That sounds like the better choice to me. They're both currently on sale.
    Just heard back from On One, they are not currently offering drop outs for the Deedar in other axle sizes. To bad.

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    Hey guys i am interested in this frame a few questions. Headtube is zs 44/50 mm yes? BB is 73mm threaded? Seat tube is 30.9?

    Thanks for any answers

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3names View Post
    Hey guys i am interested in this frame a few questions. Headtube is zs 44/50 mm yes? BB is 73mm threaded? Seat tube is 30.9?

    Thanks for any answers
    On One's website has specifications for this bike...

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    Frame Material Double butted Cro-Mo
    Frame/ Forks Weight, Approx, (med) (g) TBD
    Wheel Axles (mm) 142x12mm
    Seatpost Size (mm) 31.6
    Seat Clamp Size (mm) 34.9
    Front Mech Type NA
    Front Mech Clamp Size (mm) -
    Wheels 27.5" / 2.4"
    Mudguard mounts No
    Rack Mounts No
    Bottle Cage Bosses 1
    Brake Type Disc
    Bottom Bracket BSA 68mm
    Dropper Compatable Yes /Stealth routing
    Headset Type INT/EXT Tapered
    Headset Model -
    Shock Stroke/Length NA
    Shock Mounts NA
    Fork Travel 130-160mm
    Dropouts THRU
    Cable Routing EXT & INT
    Di2 Compatible NA
    I like 'em long, low, slack and playful

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    According to PlanetX Deedar build, 44/50 on headset and yes to everything else. I ordered same headset from their site just to ensure proper fit. The BB threw me off because stated 68mm but it's 73mm because only had to use one spacer on non drive side. Hope this helps

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    anyone know if there are any import taxes or anything bringing one to the US?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbikerdude View Post
    Here's a pic of my Deedar. Can't wait to take it out! Click image for larger version. 

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    Looks good. What size?
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    Quote Originally Posted by boardjnky4 View Post
    anyone know if there are any import taxes or anything bringing one to the US?
    I didn't pay anything, but I'm pretty sure I had to pay at the post office when I got my 456 frame a couple years ago. Maybe 20 or 30 dollars? Don't know why the difference.

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    Curious what the measurement is from BB to the seat tube and top tube junction is. I know On One gives the measurement for BB to top of seat collar. This will help me narrow down the frame.

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    Any thoughts on sizing? At 5'10" I'm leaning towards a large with a 35mm stem...

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    It's a large

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    That's wired! My Deedar thru axle doesn't have a bolt needed to remove. But I did swap out Deedar thru axle with a Rockshox one. Way better the stock axle feels like it's gonna break and cheap.

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    I think you will like reach on a large but not sure if you like that the seatpost is 19". Works for me but I'm 6'1"..

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    That's the only thing I'm not sure about, but measuring my other bikes I should JUST be able to squeeze in a 125mm dropper... Large ETT is 15mm longer than my FS, but reach is 13mm shorter, so think a medium would feel a bit small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dingleberry88 View Post
    That's the only thing I'm not sure about, but measuring my other bikes I should JUST be able to squeeze in a 125mm dropper...
    Cut the seat tube gusset off and make room for a 150mm dropper.

    Seriously. Shortening a Surly fatbike seat tube.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dingleberry88 View Post
    Large ETT is 15mm longer than my FS, but reach is 13mm shorter, so think a medium would feel a bit small.
    Reach will get 15mm longer when you sit on it and the bike sags. ETT will get about 5mm shorter. This is not the case with your F/S bike.

    Don't believe me? Put the geo into this calculator and then reduce the fork a2c height by 33mm (130mm x 25%) (what the DeeDar's geo shows)

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    I like 'em long, low, slack and playful

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    Quote Originally Posted by boardjnky4 View Post
    anyone know if there are any import taxes or anything bringing one to the US?
    No import taxes below $800 USD. Obama changed that this year. Make sure they ship through RoyalMail which transfers to USPS.

    You DO NOT want them to ship FedEx or UPS or someone like that. They charge you customs brokerage fees.
    I like 'em long, low, slack and playful

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbikerdude View Post
    I think you will like reach on a large but not sure if you like that the seatpost is 19". Works for me but I'm 6'1"..
    Any chance you could measure the centre of BB to saddle rails? Would give me a rough idea of how much room I'd have.

    Quote Originally Posted by 06HokieMTB View Post
    Cut the seat tube gusset off and make room for a 150mm dropper.

    Seriously. Shortening a Surly fatbike seat tube.
    The gusset must be there for a reason though... But guess that's an option if I ever decided to get a longer dropper...

    Quote Originally Posted by 06HokieMTB View Post

    Reach will get 15mm longer when you sit on it and the bike sags. ETT will get about 5mm shorter. This is not the case with your F/S bike.
    Looks like it'd end up pretty close to my FS measurements then! Think large might be the right choice.

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    Sorry to say but ended up breaking down bike. I bought another so the Deedar has been dismantled temporarily.

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    What headsets are you using?

    Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

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    Ended up using headset recommend on PlanetX website from their build of the Deedar. It states 44/50 int/ext, Cane Creek. The only bad is headset doesn't come with top cap n bolt! Go figure! Lol

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