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    Short chainstay, big tire clearance, 73mm bb, 2x10 options? No problem...three words, HAM-MER-SCHMIDT


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    Quote Originally Posted by car_nut View Post
    Same question here.
    Good to know I'm not the only one anxious to hear back, On-One frames prove to be an awesome value, had the 456SS before and it was a great frame for $300.

    I'm either getting the Chromag Surface in March in XL 21" ST, or if more info is known on their Taiwan-made 29er (especially if a 21" ST will be offered), I might just wait for that to save a few hundred as it's set to debut later in the 2012 season.

    If On-One can nail a 456 29er frame for under $500, I would love to get one again and support them.

    Dear Mr. Brant, I can even live with 1x9 clearances if there's enough room for a 2.4 Ardent. Something along the lines of the Kona Honzo would be perfect, except with better rear clearances. And no need for any of the new fancy rear axle standards, a traditional 135x10QR will suffice as the Sun-Ringle Charger Expert wheelset I have for this 29er build is exactly that. And should keep production costs down as well.

    PS.
    A sweet and simple paint/decal scheme would also be nice, kinda like the older 456 frames. And would a raw finish like the old 456SS be pushing my luck here?

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    What I'd like:
    Scandal frame setup for a 120mm fork
    HA of 67-68 deg @ 520mm axle to crown
    Chainstays less than 17" when slammed forward with the horizontal swapouts. I'll take shorter if you got it, but 17" is the longest I'm interested in.

    The swapouts really make this frame an easy sell IMHO. You can sell a set of long stay swapouts for those that want derailleur clearance or a short set for those that want short stays. And of course, horizontal swapouts for me so I can run SS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by car_nut View Post
    What I'd like:
    Scandal frame setup for a 120mm fork
    HA of 67-68 deg @ 520mm axle to crown
    Chainstays less than 17" when slammed forward with the horizontal swapouts. I'll take shorter if you got it, but 17" is the longest I'm interested in.

    The swapouts really make this frame an easy sell IMHO. You can sell a set of long stay swapouts for those that want derailleur clearance or a short set for those that want short stays. And of course, horizontal swapouts for me so I can run SS.
    Everything he just said.

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    HA of 67-68 deg @ 520mm axle to crown
    static?

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    Sorry, yes. I meant that as with the fork at an AtoC of 520mm, the HA should measure 67-68. If I've got my numbers right, that would mean ~1.5-2.5 deg slacker than the current Scandal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by car_nut View Post
    What I'd like:
    Scandal frame setup for a 120mm fork
    HA of 67-68 deg @ 520mm axle to crown
    Chainstays less than 17" when slammed forward with the horizontal swapouts. I'll take shorter if you got it, but 17" is the longest I'm interested in.

    The swapouts really make this frame an easy sell IMHO. You can sell a set of long stay swapouts for those that want derailleur clearance or a short set for those that want short stays. And of course, horizontal swapouts for me so I can run SS.
    Count me in. I'd run with 100mm forks long as bb not too low...

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    Quote Originally Posted by car_nut View Post
    Sorry, yes. I meant that as with the fork at an AtoC of 520mm, the HA should measure 67-68. If I've got my numbers right, that would mean ~1.5-2.5 deg slacker than the current Scandal.
    Slackset will let you do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brant View Post
    Slackset will let you do that.
    It'll get the HA there, but it won't drop the BB or shorten up the rear.

    EDIT: Or fit the tapered fork I already own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by car_nut View Post
    It'll get the HA there, but it won't drop the BB or shorten up the rear.

    EDIT: Or fit the tapered fork I already own.
    Angled headsets like this will actually drop the BB, because slacking out the same fork drops the front end. I put a 1.5 deg headset on my Inbred 29er and it dropped somewhere around 1/4" to 3/8" if I remember correctly

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    Quote Originally Posted by brant View Post
    ...

    I am getting closer to nailing one... Chainstay length is one thing.
    It's interesting that a lot of the short chainstay bikes claim a chainstay length that's actually the horizontal distance, not the centre to centre distance.
    Brant - any update on this? Is there an all-mountain 29er frame coming from On-One?

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    Great question, I am also interested.

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    Titus Ti Fireline Evo

    I'm wondering if the Titus Ti Fireline Evo, soon to be released in alloy at a lower price - On-One 456, but in 29er flavor, anytime soon?-945684_598649593488570_1812296047_n.jpg , is it? Or will there be a 456 29er?

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    Quote Originally Posted by biss-ness View Post
    Great question, I am also interested.
    Same here.
    If you hurt in your efforts and suffer painful dings. Then you are doing it right.

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