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    The PIKE is supposed to arrive tomorrow, along with the KS LEV TI (all black). It'll take me a day or 2 to get pics up because I'm working 12 hour shifts the next couple days :/
    After that I'm off 4 days in a row and our trails are drying out, warm weather in the forecast!!

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    I am this close (I don't know how to show "this close" on the inter webs) to getting my PIKE and new wheels (I9's). If only the potential buyer of my old hard tail would just give me the time and place.

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    This is good, this is very good. Selling my Inbred tomorrow, hopefully.

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    Re: 45650b

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    nice ^^

    What A-C is used for the geo chart, 545mm?

    1.5" HT?

    *saw HT's a 44, anyone seen pics of the large?
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    Another update!

    So I've now clocked a pretty good amount of rides on the 45650b, and have some more thoughts. Since I've put it together, I've pretty much only ridden this bike and ignored my others. I sold my Yeti SB66c, and poured a bit more $$ into this build. I am REALLY happy with this bike, and my decision to replace the 66c with this, and there are a number of reasons, allow me to expand:
    1. I don't think I was being honest with myself when I decided that I need the 66c for my style/type of riding. I ride aggressive XC (all mountain?), and, while that bike was very capable, it was too much bike for about 75% of what I ride.
    2. By keeping the 45650b, I put about 2000 cash in my pocket
    3. I have more fun on the 45650b. Period.

    So after about 150-200 miles, I am LOVING this bike. I chucked on a OneUp 42t cog and took it out today... had a huge grin the whole time. It's very well balanced all around, rock solid, well thought out, and pretty damn good looking!
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    I can't really say if it's lighter than the 66c, I haven't weighed it, but I imagine it's in the same ballpark (25.5-26#). I can't say if it's faster either (I don't strava or time my rides... I just ride for fun) - It's certainly faster on certain trails, and slower on others.

    I am kind of a perfectionist, and I will work at a bike until it's just right in my mind. Just so happens that I've never quite gotten there
    So what are the weak points in the frame? I'd say the dropouts could be better. Mine don't quite fit the back wheel as easily as on really high end bikes. The alignment could be a teeeeeeeny bit better. Small gripe. But it would be really cool to have sliding interchangeable dropouts that allow 15-20mm of chainstay adjustment, and 12x142 axle. Again, not a huge deal.
    As I mentioned in an earlier post, the barrel hose guides along the drive side of the top tube stick out and hit my knee from time to time. Today I was pumping a section of rollers on the trail and really friggin clipped it hard. Left a nice bruise on the inside of my knee. Small gripe.

    One more:
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    I've also identified the weak points of my build. The Stan's 3.30 hubs are just OK, and I'd love a snappier wheelset. I'm looking at a lightly used set of ENVE/240s AM wheels and trying to get over ponying up the cash. Also, I'm alternatively considering building a set of hookless Chinese carbons onto some 240s's with Sapim CX rays. I think in the end I'll go that way to save some cash. Otherwise, I'm totally stoked with the build, at the moment I can't be bothered to put on an XTR crank and rear derailleur, it's just not justified (although in the end I probably will. Someday.)
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    Looks great! I've ordered tires and will be finishing the build this week. Can't wait for the maiden ride.

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    Man this thread is making my life difficult! I have a frame on its way to go with a sweet grey/black 140mm Velvet I took off my Mojo HD. A new Singular Buzzard frame recently came my way as well and was going to sell or return the On One (build quality is a notch above on the Buzzard). Now I'm swing back towards building up the 45650...damn!

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    My 45650B has been out of commission for the past 2 weeks due to a broken rear shifter, so I have been riding my old 26" bike. I miss the 45650B so much. The geometry of the On One is so much better for rough trails and descents, but it doesnt hurt the bike's ability to climb well. I am very happy with my 45650B and I am glad I didnt bother to spend more money on a "nicer" frame.
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    Hey rpmk104,

    What size is your 45650b frame? I think the fork length, wheel size and frame size look very balanced and cohesive. I'm wavering back and forth between the purchase of a 45650b and a Transition TransAm in size small.

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    My frame is 16 inch. The fork is a sektor gold at 130mm travel. The bike feels very balanced and you can really play around with it. It's really great. I tried a jamis dragon 27.5 before getting the on one. I would say the dragon climbs a little bit...and the frame is a little lighter...That's about it. You can't go wrong with the 45650

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    Large under 6.75 lbs?
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    You mean a 20"? Yes it will almost certainly be under 6.75. My 18" Is about 5.6#.

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    Greetings from Finland!

    I'm very interested in building a bike with this frame and RS Pike 140 or 150mm, but I really am not sure about the size...

    I am 182cm tall (a bit under 6 feet, or 71,65 inch), and my inseam is 86cm (a bit under 34 inch ). I'm not sure if I should go with 18" or 20". I really can't compare those measurements to any frame at the moment, so I thought I'd ask for a help here. I like to ride technical stuff and "play" in the trails, but I have to ride a lot of road too to get to those technical trails

    Advices or experiences are more than welcome!

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    I can only tell you about the 456 carbon. I'm 187cm (6'15) and can quite easily get along with my girlfriends 18'' with a 6cm stem. Ideally I would choose a 20'' with a 5cm stem, but 18'' is definitely ok for me.

    So being 5cm shorter than me I would go for the 18'' in your case and probably end up with a 5-6cm stem (also depending on handlebar width).

    Also matches their size guide on the frame page:
    On-One 45650B Frame | On - One

    Sizing Guide
    Rider Height Inside Leg Suggested Frame Size Stem Length
    5'2" to 5'7" <29" 14” 40-60mm
    5′6″ to 5′10″ 28”-31 16” 40-60mm
    5′9″ to 6′1″ 30”-34” 18” 40-60mm
    6′ to 6′4″ 33”-37” 20” 40-80mm

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    Miki, I'm 191cm and the 20inch fits me fine. I think a 18" will feel more playful but you could probably fit into a 20" pretty well. Try and find someone with an equivalently sized bike that you can try locally.

    On another note, took my 45650b for it's second ride today. MUDDY! Unfortunately the trails that I rode were pretty much hopeless (marshland mixed with rooty/rocky hellish trails) but it was fun and the bike survived it's first real test!

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    Here's my 2014 45650b:

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    XT group set with XTR crankset.
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    ^^Word^^

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    Ok and thank you for the replies! I'm pretty sure I'm going with 18" and Pike

    I'm dreaming of 1x11 setup, but I find it kinda odd that your cassette costs as much as your frame! Maybe 1x10 will be my choice and save that money for better rims or something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miki- View Post
    Ok and thank you for the replies! I'm pretty sure I'm going with 18" and Pike

    I'm dreaming of 1x11 setup, but I find it kinda odd that your cassette costs as much as your frame! Maybe 1x10 will be my choice and save that money for better rims or something else.
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    RPMK and Tjay,
    How tall are you two? I didn't see that listed in the posts.

    RPMK, what size jamis were you riding before?

    Max, would you be comfortable on a 16" with a 70mm stem? I'm about the same size as you and thinking about going that route- more long distance climbing to long descents here in UT.
    My primary concern is standover height if the ride quality is going to be similar between the 16 and and 18.

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    I think a 16" would definitely be too small for me. I was worried about the 18, thinking it would be too big but it's perfect. If I could get a 17.5" or a 17" I'd go for it, but not a 16". If you like the handling feel with a longer stem go 16, but I prefer the short stem, and my setup suits me quite well

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    I am 5'9" with a 31" inseam. I demoed the dragon 650b in 17".

    I have the 16" 45650 and it fits me really well. I am running a 700mm flatbar with 12° sweep and a 80mm stem. Also have a 0 offset seatpost. Feels great. Love the setup.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rpmk104 View Post
    I am 5'9" with a 31" inseam. I demoed the dragon 650b in 17".

    I have the 16" 45650 and it fits me really well. I am running a 700mm flatbar with 12° sweep and a 80mm stem. Also have a 0 offset seatpost. Feels great. Love the setup.


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    Thanks.
    This is going to sound crazy, but do you know your arm spread length? Like, If you tried to "hug" a flat wall, what is the distance between your fingertips?
    I too am 5'9" with a 31" pantlength and my arm spread is 5'11". I didn't think my arms were long, but now I'm getting all obsessive.

    It's hard to tell from the Jamis specs, but from the ETT measurement, the 16" 45650B is actually a touch longer than the 17" Dragon 650b (592mm vs 584mm). Once you account for Sag, the 16" 45650b's reach should be right between a 17" and 19" Dragon frame with a lower standover than either.

    If I'm correct in my thinking, then the 18" 45650b is actually "bigger" in reach and stack (and wheelbase) than the 19" Dragon 650b, but again, with more standover.

    Any opinions on the cs length? I figure a smaller frame and setback post helps negate the 5mm difference from the evo 456.

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    I went 18".

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    Good deal, you can almost always run a shorter stem. I came off a slightly small Commencal and my knees were almost in the bars - which sucked.

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    It's good to be a TINY bit on the small side so you can get good and rowdy, but knees in the handlebars is bad news!! Let's see some pics when you get it built up!

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    Finally got her together. Pretty much a easy/quick build as most parts were spares off of my 650b Mojo HD. Some of the highlights are X9/X0 drive train with a NSB 104 2x spider (blackspire 24/34 rings), XF 140mm Special Edition Grey Velvet RL2, Formula R1 Brakes 180/160, XF Hilo SL dropper, Haven Carbon bars, King/Stans Crest tubeless wheelset. Will try to weigh in the next few days but I suspect its about 2 lbs. lighter than my Ibis. The Mojo is 26.5 so I'm guessing this is around 24.


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    Nice 1!

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    Thanks

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    Yeah, it looks really cool man! Hope you're enjoying it as much as I like mine! I'm a bit put off as I sold my 650b wheels a bit prematurely, waiting for some chinese carbon rims to arrive. I have some DT Swiss 240s hubs sitting here just waiting to get built up. For now I'm back on the FS rig, so it's not all bad, I just wanna get back on the B!

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    Finally got mine up and done!

    This bike is insanely fun. I have dubbed it: Darth Goat.

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    Review (you can also find build posts on what went into making it all happen):
    On One 45650B Bike Build: Part 3.0 and 3.1 (first 2 rides) | The Reality of the Situation.

    (oh I'm 6 foot and went 18" with a 65mm Atlas stem - playful and fun, knees have never hit the bars, even on tight turns)
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    Nice review, glad to see you're enjoying the switch from FS >> HT!

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    I wonder how much dust my FS will collect before it leaves the garage.....poor thing....
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    I'm back on my FS while I wait for my carbon rims to come in... I still love that thing but I miss the B!

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    How serious is the corrosion with the raw frame? I know that it has a clear coat but I wouldn't like to see it turn into a piece of rust after a full, all weather season.
    On the other hand the black ones rust too if the paint gets chipped and scratches are more visible... Which would be a better choice? I'm gonna use my 26er wheels while I save up for decent 27.5 wheels so the bb will be more exposed to rocks.

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    No differnce in rust protection, paint is paint. I would however treat the inside of either color with a rust preventaive as a precaution.

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    I've been riding my 45650 for a month now. I must say the clearcoat is thicker than I initial thought. I've had a few nasty chips down to bare metal but I just touch it up with automotive clearcoat and it's been fine. I suggest you apply frame saver to the internal tubing before building up the frame.

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    Not quite done but ready to ride

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    Still waiting on my back ordered white XF Velvet 140mm.

    I ordered a black frame from Planet X but mine came with blue graphics and most of the parts for this build were red or white (as you can see) from another frame. Couldn't stomach that color combo so off to the powder coater it went for a fresh matte black finish.

    The only problem I had with the build was fitting the Cane Creek conversion lower headset. I had to cut off 4mm from it to get it to fit flush with the bottom of the head tube.Name:  HD2396__93430_std.jpg
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    The Vee Rubber Trail Takers are huge! Approximately 27-3/4" tall and noticeably wider than the 2.35 Nevegal on my FS bike.

    Can't wait to take her out but it looks like this rain we're getting in Maryland is going to keep me off the trails until next week some time.
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    Could someone please do me a huge favour.. I have a spare set of forks and wanted to buy a 45650 to build up, but not sure the steerer length will be enough.

    I need a measurement off a set of tapered forks from the bottom of the crown race to top of steerer. I think I will be struggling for stack height to fit on a stem

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    I have a Cane Creek 40 with external bottom cup, Atlas stem and could have gotten away with 175mm. I have extra spacers on mine though.

    Hope that helps. I can't imagine a steerer cut lower than that (6.89").
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    Oh, and I'm taking my 45650B to Ashland this weekend, then Dwonieville mid week next week. See if I can really do away with my FS.
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    Re: 45650b

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    I have a Cane Creek 40 with external bottom cup, Atlas stem and could have gotten away with 175mm. I have extra spacers on mine though.

    Hope that helps. I can't imagine a steerer cut lower than that (6.89").
    Thanks heaps mate really appreciate that. I have about 180mm to work with so looks like I'll be ordering soon

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    I'm really close to order the raw frame (or the black/blue..) I've read all thread where this frame came up and I'm still not sure which one.. I found a frame saver-like rust preventive to spray on the inside so that's solved. Does anyone use the raw in rainy/wet conditions? I read somewhere that the clearcoat is porous. Maybe if I spray automotive clearcoat all over the frame it will be protected against rain... Sorry for being annoying, just have to order it in the next few days, because of the currency and only 1 black/blue is available if you guys say the raw is not for all weather. It's usually dry where I live but some month is kinda rainy. But I definitely lean towards raw, maybe I should take the risk of corrosion over time. (2yrs+)

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    You're over thinking this. Treat the inside of the frame put a nice coat of wax on it prior to building and call it good. As long as you don't leave the bike stored outside you're gonna be fine. One thing to consider with the raw is its not perfect to begin with. Mine a scuff marks and other imperfections that they just clearcoated over, its what makes it so industrial looking, I love it but if your really concerned about it looking perfect id probably go painted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramjm_2000 View Post
    You're over thinking this. Treat the inside of the frame put a nice coat of wax on it prior to building and call it good. As long as you don't leave the bike stored outside you're gonna be fine. One thing to consider with the raw is its not perfect to begin with. Mine a scuff marks and other imperfections that they just clearcoated over, its what makes it so industrial looking, I love it but if your really concerned about it looking perfect id probably go painted.
    OK thanks! I like how it looks so that's not a problem. Scratches aren't so visible which is good. It's not a cheap thing for me and I think I would be angrier if the perfectly painted frame would get scratches everywhere. Later if I change my mind I can powdercoat the raw like a guy did a few posts above.
    So I'm going to order it today or tomorrow.
    Thanks for the help.

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    The raw is definitely a lower main instance finish, you won't be disappointed. Touch ups can probably be done with clear nail polish.

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    I ordered the 18" raw frame and all the parts I need. fingers crossed

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