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    Heres its current form, should be built back up in the next month or so as an SS rigid brawler.


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    Just ordered mine from the planet x usa. How long did it take to ship?

    *anxious*

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    Just ordered my 20' raw steel frame!

    i'm building it out of the parts bin. the only thing that sucks is it will be built using a rockshox 30 that i'll be extending from 100mm to 120 mm and a really really crappy wheelset that i have laying around until i can build up a nice set.

    here's the build.

    * Frame Size & Color: 20' Raw steel
    * Fork: RockShox 30 Gold TK (120mm)
    * Brakes: Avid Elixir 7 (blegh)
    * Cranks: SRAM Carbon cranks (takeoff from another bike)
    * Front Derailleur: n/a
    * Chainring: Raceface Narrow Wide 34t
    * Rear Derailleur: Smihano SLX
    * Pedals: not sure
    * Stem: Giant stock takeoff
    * Handlebar: Either 100mm cannondale C2 flatbar or my 780mm Truvativ Boobar
    * Seatpost: Giant stock takeoff
    * Saddle: no idea
    * Bottom Bracket: whatever i have laying around
    * Cassette: Shimano XT
    * Headset: Probably CC
    * Grips: ODI Vans
    * Front Tire: Probably HRII or Rocket Ron or something
    * Front Rim: Boat anchor (ghetto tubeless)
    * Front Hub/Skewer: Whatever
    * Rear Tire: Schwalbe Racing Ralph Evo
    * Rear Rim: Boat anchor (ghetto tubeless)
    * Rear Hub/Skewer: Whatever
    * Weight: TBD

    I'll post it here and post a build thread when it comes in and gets built up!

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    Update. Mine is scheduled to arrive Wednesday. I had a stan's front hub laying around and some extra cash so I ordered a bike hub store rear hub and a set of velocity blunt p35s, will likely lace them up with dt revolutions or something similar. Might end up selling the parts in my above post as a complete bike and doing a full xt build with an xfusion velvet fork or something that price range.

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    Yours must have been in Stock. Mine is coming from the UK(even though site said in stock ready to ship) so probably be here late next week or week after :-/

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    45650b-img_0978.jpg45650b-img_0991.jpg45650b-img_0976.jpg

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    Re: 45650b

    Parts are trickling in
    Wednesday can't come soon enough


    Bikehubstore mtb270 (10mm thru bolt axle coming soon) will be laced to velocity blunt p35s
    VP vice pedals


    CC headset


    Geax goma (for the front) to be paired with a racing Ralph I have laying around

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    Re: 45650b

    Wooooo!



    Time to bust out the dslr and make a build thread!

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    3 week wait :-/

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    Damn.

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    I will be beginning the build on mine in the next few days. I just need to pick up the wheels from the builder
    45650b 18" Frame Raw
    Rock Shox Revalation
    XT Cranks, Cassette, and Derailleur
    Race Face Next Carbon Handlebars and Seat Post
    DT Swiss Rims laced to Hope Pro 2 Evo Rims
    Maxxis Ardent 2.3 Tires
    Hope Tech Endure E4 Brakes
    Hope Head Set
    Race Endure Brakes

    I should have some pictures up in the next few days!

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    Re: 45650b



    Starting to look like a bike. Perks of getting to use your lbs to work on your bikes ;-)

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    Build has started with "junk parts" I have lying around. Had to get my headtube squished by a frame repairer as it wasn't round and the bearings wouldn't go into the headset cups. As it is the "click" into the cups, just hard enough to be annoying to remove by hand.... oh well!



    18" Black/Orange Frame
    Hope Pick'n'Mix Headset
    Rockshox Revelation Dual Position Air Forks
    Truvativ 40mm stem
    Spank Royala 700mm 30mm rise
    Deore brakes
    Deore shifter + 10spd casette
    Widgit 34T front ring
    KMC X10SL chain
    Giant P-XC2 wheelset
    XT cranks
    Superstar nanotech flats
    Fizik Gobi XM saddle
    KS i900 seatpost
    Santa Cruz seatpost clamp
    Superstar Components chunky grips
    Ardent 2.4 front, Ardent Race 2.25 rear
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    16" Raw Frame (will probably paint)
    2014 Sun Ringle Charger Pro wheelset
    2013 Rock Shox Sektor TK (will upgrade later)
    Chris King Inset 7
    Renthal stem
    Enve swp bars
    Thomson post/seat clamp
    Phemom saddle
    Maxxis Ardent 2.4/2.25
    X9/X0 drive train
    1x10 34T/11-36
    BB7s for now

    Thats my build. I have everything just waiting on the damn frame.

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    Damn hardtails (or shitty Giant wheels).... Maiden voyage resulted in 2x pinch flats and 1x busted rear wheel


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    Nice looking 45650b considering you say it has junk parts, it looks great in that pic. Was your frame new?, was it one of those ones from eBay on sale at planet X?..I hope my frame builds up ok!!

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    I dont think any of the ebay deals were on 54650b's.

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    Re: 45650b

    Quote Originally Posted by silverfish74 View Post
    Nice looking 45650b considering you say it has junk parts, it looks great in that pic. Was your frame new?, was it one of those ones from eBay on sale at planet X?..I hope my frame builds up ok!!
    Frame is well made and sturdy (at least under my 215 lbs). I think his issue was a components thing. Mine has some $50 giant wheels with tubes until my new ones are laced up and held up fine on the maiden voyage (though I did run almost 30 psi)

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    TwoNin9r is correct - the parts are bits and pieces I had left off building my SC SoloC and the missus Giant Lust. The wheels are probably the only big let down - although I was expecting it, so it's now hanging on the garage wall til I find some spare cash to buy some more LB carbons for the Luist and take my Stans ArchEX back off her.

    Frame was from Planet-X, only issue I had was headset not being round which cost me $80au to fix. They did say they would pay for it, I just haven't scanned and emailed them the receipt yet to see what they say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cplagz View Post
    TwoNin9r is correct - the parts are bits and pieces I had left off building my SC SoloC and the missus Giant Lust. The wheels are probably the only big let down - although I was expecting it, so it's now hanging on the garage wall til I find some spare cash to buy some more LB carbons for the Luist and take my Stans ArchEX back off her.

    Frame was from Planet-X, only issue I had was headset not being round which cost me $80au to fix. They did say they would pay for it, I just haven't scanned and emailed them the receipt yet to see what they say.
    Haha my wheels are from missus giant tempt, and she now has a lust.

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    Just finished my build. The orange decals clashed with my build so I removed them. Will post pics when I get time.

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    Just ordered nukeproof bars and saddle in yellow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sambosuda View Post
    Just finished my build. The orange decals clashed with my build so I removedcomponentsll post pics when I get time.
    Hi, how did you remove the on-one decals?..I know they are clear coated over(at least they are on the raw frame not sure about the black frame), but how did you go about it?

    And yeah those orange decals can be a pain to colour coordinate!..it made me want to buy all orange components to match..but I thought otherwise and I'm sticking to black at the moment apart from my neon yellow bars and stem.

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    I used aircraft remover (paint stripper) on them. It removed some of the clear but I went over it with some fine grit and re cleared it.

    I have a raw frame fyi.

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    So I'm running a 50mm Renthal Duo, love the look of the stem. My issue is I feel very cramped and too upright while riding.

    Thinking of going w/ a 70mm stem to stretch out a bit more. Anyone else riding this combo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sambosuda View Post
    So I'm running a 50mm Renthal Duo, love the look of the stem. My issue is I feel very cramped and too upright while riding.

    Thinking of going w/ a 70mm stem to stretch out a bit more. Anyone else riding this combo?
    I'm on a 60mm stem but super wide bars and I dont feel cramped at 6'3" (on a 20" frame)

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    Current bars are 740mm and The 50mm stem.

    Maybe I'm just use to my XC setup 29er.

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    I will say I'm going down to a 760mm bar from a 780 (mostly because they're yellow!)

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    Those of you who are 5'9 and went with 18", do you wish you had the 16"? I will be using mine for all mtn with a 140mm xfusion on the front. I ride an 18" giant trance x with 26" wheels but looking at the geo chart of the on one, the top tube on my 18" trance is the same as the top tube on the 16" on one.

    I'm just scared i may be too stretched out but i have no idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kikoraa View Post
    Those of you who are 5'9 and went with 18", do you wish you had the 16"? I will be using mine for all mtn with a 140mm xfusion on the front. I ride an 18" giant trance x with 26" wheels but looking at the geo chart of the on one, the top tube on my 18" trance is the same as the top tube on the 16" on one.

    I'm just scared i may be too stretched out but i have no idea.
    I'm 5'10 and riding an 18" with 40mm stem and 720 bars and my saddle quite far forward in the seat rails. It is a fun bike but I could definitely ride a 16" comfortably and run wider bars because I'm used to riding a medium SC Solo with 50mm/730mm bars.

    You could swing either way and be happy. I bought mine bigger so other mates could ride it and it's more XC friendly as I have the solo for bigger jump tracks .etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by sambosuda View Post
    Wishing I went with a 18.

    Running a 80mm stem on my 16' w/740mm bars.
    How tall are you?

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    Wishing I went with a 18.

    Running a 80mm stem on my 16' w/740mm bars.

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    Another persons fit isn't going to help you at all, especially if your in between sizes. I'm 5'9" and ride the 18" with a 60mm. Fits like a glove with saddles rails dead center. In my case a 16" would have been a mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramjm_2000 View Post
    Another persons fit isn't going to help you at all, especially if your in between sizes. I'm 5'9" and ride the 18" with a 60mm. Fits like a glove with saddles rails dead center. In my case a 16" would have been a mistake.
    Same here. 5'9" on an 18 with a 50mm stem. I was wishing for a 17" when I ordered but I went big and its perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kikoraa View Post
    How tall are you?
    I'm 5'10"

    I have short legs and a longer uper body. 29.5" inseam.

    will probably end up selling my 16"

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    Hmm. I'm 5'9 with long legs and short torse/reach. Maybe the 18" with a short stem would suffice.

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    Since I removed my On One decals, the probibility of them exchanging my frame is very slim.

    Guess I'm just going to ride it. It doesnt feel terrible at all.

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    45650b



    Should be done this weekend. Unbelievably excited about this build. 140mm x fusion velvet, 1x10 with a race face narrow wide.

    Debating weather I should just use a clutch derailleur or use my non clutch with a bionicon c guide.

    My clutch is currently on my 2x10 full suspension.

    Any ideas?


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    Run the 1x10 with the clutch and the 2x10 with the non clutch, seems logical? I run a race face nw on mine with a non clutch slx rd ans even that refuses to drop chain.

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    Re: 45650b

    Specs sheet and better photos will follow

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    Could somebody measure inner width of chain stays? For example 1, 2, 3 and 4 inch behind the bottom bracket. The question is how wide 26" tire can be mounted to 45650B frame?

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    My apologies if this question has been asked/answered already but is it possible to install a fork with a straight 1.5" steerer tube on the 45650B?

    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratman View Post
    My apologies if this question has been asked/answered already but is it possible to install a fork with a straight 1.5" steerer tube on the 45650B?

    Thanks!
    That's a good question. I know you can run tapered using an external bottom cup (EC44). I wonder if you could use the same for the top? I really don;t see why it wouldn't work considering the headtube ID is the same through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratman View Post
    My apologies if this question has been asked/answered already but is it possible to install a fork with a straight 1.5" steerer tube on the 45650B?

    Thanks!
    Yes. Straight or tapered. I have a straight steerer.

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    Any head tube that will accommodate a tapered fork will accommodate a straight steerer by changing the bottom cup of the headset (I'm sure there are exceptions, but that's the general rule). On the 45650b, you can run a tapered fork on an external cup lower headset and a straight steerer in either an external cup or inset. Though I don't see any reason top run an inset unless you had maybe a 160mm straight steerer fork as the frame it's designed for up to 150

    So for straight steerer
    zs44/28.6 ec44/30
    Though you could use zs44/28.6 zs44/30 as mentioned above, but it would just lower you're geo a bit

    And for tapered
    zs44/28.6 ec44/40

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    He was asking about a 1.5" straight steerer. vs the more common 1-1/8th.

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    TwoNin29r was correct. Its all about the headset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kikoraa View Post
    He was asking about a 1.5" straight steerer. vs the more common 1-1/8th.
    Bahaha

    My bad. Then yes, as long as they make an ec44/38.1 top cup


    Like this, I think.

    http://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...s.php?id=61209
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    Quick shot of my 45650b and my old (now my friend's) inbred 29

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    Got this text from the wheel builder.

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    Had my first ride today. Just a heads up: do not run a 120mm fork on this bike, it feels twitchy and unsafe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoNin9r View Post
    Had my first ride today. Just a heads up: do not run a 120mm fork on this bike, it feels twitchy and unsafe.
    I'm running mine with a 140mm and it didn't feel overly slack at all. I can totally see why shorter travel would make it awkward considering the headtube angle. I got my first ride in today and immediately flatted :/ it seems like my valve is busted and I need to redo Stan's. What I did ride was incredibly fun. I feel a little crammed with a 60mm stem (710mm bars) so I have a 90mm on order. I feel I should have gotten an 80 instead though.

    Finally got it built and hope to ride tomorrow night flat free!





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    Quote Originally Posted by kikoraa View Post
    I'm running mine with a 140mm and it didn't feel overly slack at all. I can totally see why shorter travel would make it awkward considering the headtube angle. I got my first ride in today and immediately flatted :/ it seems like my valve is busted and I need to redo Stan's. What I did ride was incredibly fun. I feel a little crammed with a 60mm stem (710mm bars) so I have a 90mm on order. I feel I should have gotten an 80 instead though.

    Finally got it built and hope to ride tomorrow night flat free!





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    Haha i also flatted almost immediately on my ride. And my 80mm stem is also too short. I'm going to go with 100 I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoNin9r View Post
    Haha i also flatted almost immediately on my ride. And my 80mm stem is also too short. I'm going to go with 100 I think.
    Ok cool. I was wondering if I was crazy. My saddle is also far back on the rails. My local trails are more cross country so this bike will never have an opportunity to shine until I leave town on te weekends. I hate the racey geo so I went with this frame. Also a big fan of more travel. It's still super fun and a little more efficient than my full sus with 140/120.


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    Re: 45650b

    Yep. I'm toying with the idea of a fork with push button adjustment from like 120 to 140. Here's mine pretty much done, waiting on a wtb pure v to come in on Tuesday and eventually a 140mm fork.




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    This bike is so damn fun. I'm not the best bunny hopper and was worried about the bigger wheels and slack geo but I didn't have an issue getting this bike off the ground. Again, I got newb hop skillz. I can't wait to put post work mileage on this baby this week


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    I'm running a 80mm stem w/ 780mm bars. Feels pretty damn good. I love how i can take this thing down some of the more rootier/tech sections of my local trails and it clears them easily.

    Now to take this thing out of town!

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    Who long are you and what is your inseam and of course what bike size do you ride?

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    Re: 45650b

    Quote Originally Posted by cokratex View Post
    Who long are you and what is your inseam and of course what bike size do you ride?
    Are you talking to anyone in particular?

    I'm 6'3", 35" inseam, am on a 20" with setback seatpost, 100mm stem (-6*), and 740mm bars. The stem comes in today and I hope it alleviates the cramped feeling (currently 80mm stem).

    I'll be going with a longer fork to slacken it up a bit as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by cokratex View Post
    Who long are you and what is your inseam and of course what bike size do you ride?
    5'10" 29.5" inseam and I ride a 16" frame w/ a 80mm stem and 780mm bars.

    I could ride the 18" because of how long my torso is but then my stand over would suck.

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    Re: 45650b

    Thank you for the answers! Not asking anyone in particular, just reading through the thread and wondering what size would fit me.

    I would like a longer top tube with short stem, but if the standover height must of course be tolerable.

    I'm 5'10" with inseam 34". Thinking about the 18".

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    Ah well good luck! I will say the thing is fun

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    Finished my build (for now)
    Running 150 revs with rct (stealth decals from slikgraphics) which really help on climbs. No problems with the travel going up, brilliant coming down.
    50mm stem and 740mm bars which makes it feel very responsive but solid.

    Hope hoop flows, xt crank with on-one narrow/wide. Think i'll invest in a hope trex as it can be a bit of a thigh busters on steep hills.

    Going to change the back tyre to a nobby nic maybe as the hans dampf is a tad heavy on trails.
    Very happy with it Just need to invest in a dropper next.

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    Now that's a shredding built ht. Very nice!

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    How do you guys like the geo an what stems are you running? I was running a 60mm with 710mm bars and it felt way too snappy for me. Also I felt that, because my arms were kind of cramped in, I was always buckling them in and lunging forward. I threw a 90mm on the to see if extending my arms would prevent that buckling. My full suspension is perfect with a 70mm stem but that's a whole different bike with geo/angles.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kikoraa View Post
    How do you guys like the geo an what stems are you running? I was running a 60mm with 710mm bars and it felt way too snappy for me. Also I felt that, because my arms were kind of cramped in, I was always buckling them in and lunging forward. I threw a 90mm on the to see if extending my arms would prevent that buckling. My full suspension is perfect with a 70mm stem but that's a whole different bike with geo/angles.


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    So far I'm on a 100mm stem and 740 bars. Feels really dnappy but I think that will dissipate when i go up to a 140mm fork (from 120). I love the control I the climbs though

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    20" with a 60mm stem and 780 bars...feels great. However, I've got a PIKE incoming and it's got 160mm travel, not sure how the bike will feel with it. I might order a new air shaft if it feels strange.

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    Oh yea. I forgot to state I have an xfusion velvet 140 on mine.

    Would you Guys think the 90 would suit me better than te 60 since t feels so cramped?


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    This is what I'm working with now with a 90. It also helped even out my saddle to bar height. May feel better with a 66 drug head angle. Need to get a ride in but the stem felt a little better on the street. If a tad slower.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kikoraa View Post
    Oh yea. I forgot to state I have an xfusion velvet 140 on mine.

    Would you Guys think the 90 would suit me better than te 60 since t feels so cramped?


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    A wider bar than 710 will help you feel less cramped. Finding the correct combination of stem/handlebar can be tough, good luck.

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    Rigid forked, 465mm A2C. Frankenbike. Should be a fun SS trail bike.






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    Well I thought I would put heli tape on my to give it some protection and it took off the lacquer made a bit of a mess. Fortunately it was under the down tube so no one will see it, guess it will come off in time with shredding anyway but it pissed me off no end at the time.

    Just wanted to warn anyone who is thinking of doing the same!

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    Here's mine. I need to take proper pics.

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    Nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by fr0sty View Post
    20" with a 60mm stem and 780 bars...feels great. However,forks got a PIKE incoming and it's got 160mm travel, not sure how the bike will feel with it. I might order a new air shaft if it feels strange.
    I've fitted a 27.5 160mm Pike to my 45650b, I have an 18" frame and I think it looks ok but yet to ride it as I'm just waiting on my tyres coming.
    I kind of forgot that this frame was meant to be 150mm max and bought the 160mm forks without thinking about it properly. I think the same fork comes in a 150mm and maybe should have got that but anyway its only 10mm extra and from what I've read I'm certain it will be fine with a 160mm travel fork, it sure looks rad though.

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    Hey 'sambosuda', Whats them wheels, they are straight pull spoke hubs I see?, your bike looks a decent spec under all that mud..

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    Think you'll just find it a bit tougher climbing. Don't do any massive drops as well you may crack your frame

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    Quote Originally Posted by darrenspink View Post
    Think you'll just find it a bit tougher climbing. Don't do any massive drops as well you may crack your frame
    oh god I hope it doesn't snap. No but seriously I think it will be fine, someone asked about this in a forum somewhere and if I remember correctly apparently the 456 frame was CEN tested with a 160mm fork and the 45650b is pretty much the same frame as a 456 and this was also stated by the frame designer.
    These On-One frames from what I gather are fairly strong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverfish74 View Post
    Hey 'sambosuda', Whats them wheels, they are straight pull spoke hubs I see?, your bike looks a decent spec under all that mud..
    Sun Ringle Charger Pro

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    Quote Originally Posted by sambosuda View Post
    Here's mine. I need to take proper pics.
    Just realised, this is the bike you removed the bright coloured On-One decals off!..

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoNin9r View Post
    Had my first ride today. Just a heads up: do not run a 120mm fork on this bike, it feels twitchy and unsafe.
    How would you compare to a hardtail race bike?
    I had a carbon bike which i broke the frame on with 100mm fork and 70.5* headangle.. I felt that was okay.
    Im upgrading to a 120mm fork, and a 45650b frame
    im going to use the 45650b as a bike for the easy trails and some races next season. For the harsh trails i have a DH rig.

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    I've got a rigid fork on mine with 465mm a2c, and dont find it twitchy or unsafe.

    I think you will be more than fine with a 120mm fork.

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    yeah, i typed in the geo of the frame in a calculator ( cant find it again ) and just changed the a2c fork lenght from 150mm to 120mm, and it was like 1.3* in difference, so it will still be a awesome bike
    I was afraid it would be even steeper than my previous frame.

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    Why go against what the frame was designed for Geo wise?

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    Just taste on the frames name..... 456...
    It means : 4" , 5", 6"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skorp View Post
    Just taste on the frames name..... 456...
    It means : 4" , 5", 6"
    Even if you dont know where the name originated, its right in the spec sheet:
    On-One 45650B Frame | Planet X

    I actually found a Recon 120mm laying around (for a 29er) that im going to throw on. So at 534 A2C with ~6mm worth of stack due to going external itll be sitting near 540mm. Which I think will end up pretty good.

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    45650B in flames with Surly 26 x 2.75 Dirt Wizards . Not yet driven in real trail action, but feels good when testing in yard and terrace. 45650b-onone45650bdirtwizard2.75.jpg

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    45650B in flames with Surly 26 x 2.75 Dirt Wizards . Not yet driven in real trail action, but feels good when testing in yard and terrace. Click image for larger version. 

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    Why 26" wheels on the 45650B? Why my go with the 26" 456?


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    Quote Originally Posted by kikoraa View Post
    Why 26" wheels on the 45650B? Why my go with the 26" 456?
    Well, I have 2 sets of 26" wheels from my old bike. Someday these got enough hits and I may change to 650B. I checked that frame spec of 456 and 45650B are quite near each other. 45650B has more tyre clearance for 26" than 456. I also want to try wider tyres. More cushion overall and maybe better tracktion in snow. I have drove 45650B a few times with 26" Chunky Monkey and Smörgåsbord or Big Bettys on trails full of roots and rocks. A little lower bottom bracket is not a problem, no pedal hits or chain ring crashes so far. Log crossing goes as before.
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    Dirt Wizard 26+, An aggressive tread focused on traction and control in loose and varied terrain, with beveled leading edge dual row knobs in the center and well-spaced, siped edge knobs to dig into loose corners. Designed to be run on 50mm rims, the 2.75˝ casing inflates about 27.5˝ overall diameter (that’s pert near 650b, folks), meaning you get some benefits of a larger diameter tire like ground approach angle and more footprint, with easier maneuverability of a smaller diameter tire, plus some extra pneumatic cushioning. Minimum rim size for these bad boys is 35mm.
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    Can't wait to get her finished! Missing a shorter stem, singlespeed chainring, 40-28T adapter, gearwire, chain and some tires that works on trail.

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    How much room in these frames with "regular" 650b trail tires and rims........is their enough room to go 27.5+ in them? These new WTB, Vee Rubber, and Panaracer tires have me intrigued.

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    Sick bike up above with the Dirt Wizards on it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMcG View Post
    How much room in these frames with "regular" 650b trail tires and rims........is their enough room to go 27.5+ in them? These new WTB, Vee Rubber, and Panaracer tires have me intrigued.
    There's alot of room, but with 27.5+ being so new and virtually no solid specs its tough to say.

    I have pretty big 2.35's on the rear and it isnt tight from what I remember.

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    My large frame has a hans dampf 2.25 on the rear and there is 1cm clearance at the top of the seatstay

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMcG View Post
    How much room in these frames with "regular" 650b trail tires and rims........is their enough room to go 27.5+ in them? These new WTB, Vee Rubber, and Panaracer tires have me intrigued.
    On-One say 2.4" max for the 45650b frame, I have Schwalbe Rock Razor 2.35" rear tyre and I have 14mm by the top of frame seat stay/tyre (but my tyre has a thin tread profile by design on top so would be more like 10mm with other tyres) and 10mm to the top of each side of the tyre and 6mm at the bottom each side.

    So I would say that 2.4" is correct as the maximum size for this frame, although a 2.5" would probably fit fine but obviously with not as much gap.

    Also as you probably know tyre widths can vary between manufacturer brands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMcG View Post
    How much room in these frames with "regular" 650b trail tires and rims........is their enough room to go 27.5+ in them? These new WTB, Vee Rubber, and Panaracer tires have me intrigued.
    On an i25 650b rim I would keep it under 60mm tread width or it will rub the chain stay on turns.

    I am wondering what is the tallest tire on the market (rim to center tread) that will fit in a 45650b frame..anyone tried the 26+ or 27.5+ tires? Casing-tread width on these tires posted anywhere?
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    Oh I see now, you're asking about 27.5+ tyres, to be honest I didn't know anything about these until now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kikoraa View Post
    Why 26" wheels on the 45650B? Why my go with the 26" 456?
    Indeed, couple hundred bucks is spendy for tires.. the real question though, what's in the giant thermos?
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    Quote Originally Posted by akaBrowntown View Post
    Rigid forked, 465mm A2C. Frankenbike. Should be a fun SS trail bike.





    What fork is that?

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