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    In the mean time I found a Rockshox pike 351 u coil 20mm thru axle on the Craigs that I'm going to check out for $200. This a good fork for the 0n one 456? I'm sure anything is better than my Trek 3700 though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VertKurt View Post
    Cool thanks. What stem do you run and what would you like to?
    I have a 90 on my Evo and it's by no means bad, but I feel like it could go a little longer, which could get into 1990's XC territory . I have a 60 on my Inbred 29er and I really like the way that feels. Of course, they're different bikes for different purposes so I'm just being picking. I've used the 456Evo for all day trail rides but I know it's not really an XC machine.

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    I ended up picking the fork up as my first piece to this build. I'm calling On One to place the frame order at the end of this week. Now just got to pick a wheel set. I'm currently looking at WTB i23's but haven't decided on a set yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by col200 View Post
    I have a 90 on my Evo and it's by no means bad, but I feel like it could go a little longer, which could get into 1990's XC territory . I have a 60 on my Inbred 29er and I really like the way that feels. Of course, they're different bikes for different purposes so I'm just being picking. I've used the 456Evo for all day trail rides but I know it's not really an XC machine.
    Doesn't on one recommend 50mm and lower? Although, with long arms such as myself you'd probably have to get a wide handlebar setup to be able to run a shorter stem.

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    Hi all. Been a spectator on here for a long time. Anyway, for those interested, I built a new Evo last week.

    It is absolutely fantastic, and On One were a dream to deal with. As this is my first post on mtbr, I cannot link pictures, but they are on another UK based forum

    Enjoy.

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    Nice! I hope mine ends up being as fantastic as you're making it sound. I'm getting fired up just thinking about riding my first legit mountain bike this summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcitizen1 View Post
    What seat clamp & bar are you using? Builds are so similar, but you ride yours on way better **** then I have access to, ha ha.
    Seat clamp is a salsa quick lock. Easton EA70 Monkey Bars. I'm pretty lucky to have hundreds of miles of sweet trails within 15 minutes of my house.
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    my new bike!
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    Looks good! What wheelset you end up?

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    Just got the frame, cockpit and front wheel ordered up. Final touches include cranks, brakes, rear wheel, and tires. Super stoked!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcitizen1 View Post
    Some pics. Kinda wanna do orange bars too, and maybe even cranks.
    and some orange wheelset to match.
    i am also contemplating on having an orange saddle too.

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    It's been 3 weeks and On one is still out of 456 EVO's in 20" while all the parts sit in my garage waiting to be thrown on a frame and out on the trails. I was going to give them another 2 weeks to hear news on the next shipment, but if no word by then I'm moving on to other brands. I considered springing for the 18" but i'm 6'2" w/ 36" inseam and was just picturing a ridiculously long seatpost length so decided not to.

    Since then I've looked at most of the other AM HT brands. Ragley blue pig, Cotic bfe, Dialled alpine/albert , Stanton slackline, Transition transam, NS surge, Chromag surface etc.. but the price of the EVO made it a no brainer when compared to the others. I guess I've got 2 weeks to think about it, but I'm really itching to get the new parts out on the trails.

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    I think there is going to be an updated 456 evo coming out in a few months, so the supply is thin.

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    If they update it I hope 30.9mm Seatposts will fit and replaceable dropouts. They need new 18" Raw. Looking forward to build one with a Durolux fork.
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    My Evo. Winter edition
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    I couldn't wait any longer so I ordered up an 18" blue 456. I might need a longer seatpost because my legs are 36" long. We'll see. I've heard of other riders my height riding 18" frames, so it gives me hope.

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    Here's my Evo:
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    I've had this frame since last August I think and I have no plans on getting rid of it any time soon. It rips with the 2.4 contis and Lyrik.
    Some specs:
    14" frame
    Azonic outlaw wheelset
    Old X0 rear der (med cage, so can't go to lowest gear without it growling at me)
    Sh*t Raceface Ride XC crankset
    Raceface Atlas bars
    Elixir brakes that stop semi-okay
    Not pictured: new Ice-tech rotors and no more stickers
    Weighs in at about 32ish lbs
    Upgrades coming really soon:
    Zee rear der 10sp/ Zee shifter
    XT cassette
    XX1 cranks
    X fusion Hilo dropper
    Stay tuned...

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    New to me fork (open bath float rl 150mm, MY2011 I think)

    456 evo-d5f54cac9dfa11e2876222000a9f0a1b_7.jpg

    456 evo-a67cbb8e9dfc11e2b4cc22000a1fbe13_7.jpg

    does somebody know when will be 14" size steel frames available from on-one? (uk store)
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    Just finished my build a few days ago ... (frame swap from my Kona Cinder Cone) ... totally dig it!

    Like many of the folks, I too was looking into the EVO but was having a hard time figuring out sizing, being 5'10"+, with a 31.75" stand-over (actual, not pants inseam). With this I could have could have gone either 16" or 18". I called Titus and they said 18" would be a good size. But even with that I knew that I prefer a effective top tube closer to 23" than 24" and I'm a bit more comfortable with a stand-over below 31". Since I couldn't test out the two sizes prior to purchasing ... I went with my gut and pull the trigger on a 16" ... am very happy I did.

    Since I built the EVO up around a set of Recon 351 U-Turn 130mm forks; I was able to check out how it felt at 100mm, 120mm, and 130mm. When dialed down to 100mm and 120mm ... it immediately felt like the frame was a wee-bit too small ... but when I fully extended the forks ... it felt just right. I guess I should add that I ride more technical, winding, narrow singletrack; so a more compact frame is preferable.

    So in all ... if you are a techical rider, in-between sizes and are looking to have less than 130mm of travel, go with the larger sized frame ... more than 130mm, go with the smaller one.


    Specs:

    Frame: On-One 456 Evo 16"
    Forks: Rock Shox Recon 351 U-turn 130mm (firm spring)
    Crankset: Shimano SLX (2x9)
    Stem: Truvativ Hussefelt 60mm
    Handlebars: Truvativ Hussefelt Comp 675mm
    Brakes: Hayes Stroker Rhyde
    Shifters: Shimano SLX & Deore (front)
    Derailleurs: Shimano XT & Deore (front)
    Seat Post: Titec HellBent Layback
    Clamp: Salsa
    Hoops: Sun Ringle Black Flag
    Hubs: Sun Ringle Dirty Flea
    Weight ... 29lbs

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    ... I'll post up some better pics later.
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    sick looking rides...I have the blue 18" frame sitting under my bed. Still plenty of snow where I am so still focused on the ski season.
    One question though, what size stems-handbar combos do most of you have? I am 6"0 tall and am thinking about either a 50MM with 740mm bars, 70mm with 685mm bars or a 60mm with somehwere in between. Would it make much difference or is it more or less the same? my previous ride was a Zaskar Expert with 600mm bars and 100mm stem. So the 456 will be a drastic change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Factory View Post
    sick looking rides...I have the blue 18" frame sitting under my bed. Still plenty of snow where I am so still focused on the ski season.
    One question though, what size stems-handbar combos do most of you have? I am 6"0 tall and am thinking about either a 50MM with 740mm bars, 70mm with 685mm bars or a 60mm with somehwere in between. Would it make much difference or is it more or less the same? my previous ride was a Zaskar Expert with 600mm bars and 100mm stem. So the 456 will be a drastic change.

    I'm 5'11" with wide shoulders. I run a 50mm stem with 785mm bars. Love it so much I set my other bike up to match.

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    456 evo-2013-04-12-11.17.11.jpg
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    Happy happy happy!

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    Frame: OnOne 456 Evo Medium
    Fork: RS Pike
    Wheelset/hubs: Stans flow w/ Hope pro 2 evo's
    Tires: 2.5 Maxxis Highroller front, 2.35 Maxxis Highroller rear.
    Grips: Esi Chunky
    Brakes: Avid BB7
    Handlebars: Raceface atlas 685mm
    Pedals: VP Vice
    Crank/cog: 32t Race face evolve and 20t cog
    Stem: Chromag hifi
    Saddle: Charge Spoon
    Headset: FSA Pig
    Seatpost/clamp: No name setapost and salsa 30mm QR clamp
    Tensioner: Blackspire

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    Now geared! Waiting for Carpatian mountains...
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    I've been running a 1x9 set up on my 456 Evo but am now trying to put a front derailleur on it. I have an XT FD sitting around but when I tried to install it, it would hit the rear tire (2.35" Rocket Ron). Anyone else having this issue?

    Can I get this SLX derailleur to resolve this issue, since it's supposed to have a more compact design: Shimano SLX M665/7 Front Derailleur > Components > Drivetrain > Front Derailleurs | Jenson USA Online Bike Shop. I have a SLX double crankset.

    Any other advice? Looks like others are not having this issue, based on the pics. The wheel seems true enough.

    Thanks!

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    ^^I've got my frame coming. I'm planning to run it 1x9, but I've got that derailleur and I could check it out on a fr3 (2.35)> frames coming on Wednesday if fed ex tracking can be trusted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElwoodT View Post
    ^^I've got my frame coming. I'm planning to run it 1x9, but I've got that derailleur and I could check it out on a fr3 (2.35)> frames coming on Wednesday if fed ex tracking can be trusted.
    Thanks, man. That would be awesome. Wish I could keep running 1x9 but the mountains here are just too steep!

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    ^^So I'm still waiting on a bb in order to get the crankset on, also my rear wheel/tire is giving me trouble seating the bead to go tubeless and all my tubes are shrader and I need a presta valve. So I can't 100% confirm that it wont rub, but I'm 99% you'll be fine. Pics to come.

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    Man, I really wish they would restock in raw 20"!

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    I contacted them couple weeks ago and asked when 20" frames will be back in stock and they said "Hi we have the Evo 2 due the end of the month."

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    What is the evo2?

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    I didn't ask more info about the Evo 2, but it seems that they are making some changes to the Evo model.

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    Cool! Hope the frames come out soon. I really want to get On One!

    Lol, I wonder how many times that joke's been made before

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    Evo2 should have all the updates the evo didn't get. Like larger diameter seat tube and tapered head tube maybe a direct mount rear derailluer

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruri View Post
    Evo2 should have all the updates the evo didn't get. Like larger diameter seat tube and tapered head tube maybe a direct mount rear derailluer
    Seriously?!?!?!?! Awe man! Like everyone else, I totally dig my EVO but those changes would really be nice to have ... especially the tapered head tube. I guess not being able to wait for an EVO didn't help. Oh well. Can't wait to see it anyway.
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    and it looks like they are working in a carbon version too:

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    Nice pic fer! Glad to see things are coming along with with the new frames

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    if they keep the same dropouts as the actual 456c I'm in for an IGH setup, the weather is rubbish over here, we have so much mud almost all year that the transmission takes a beating

    456 evo-dsc_5244-custom-.jpg

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    yeah, I love raw steel bikes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fer83 View Post
    if they keep the same dropouts as the actual 456c I'm in for an IGH setup, the weather is rubbish over here, we have so much mud almost all year that the transmission takes a beating
    We are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruri View Post
    Evo2 should have all the updates the evo didn't get. Like larger diameter seat tube and tapered head tube maybe a direct mount rear derailluer
    Evo2 doesn't have tapered headtube (or a 44).
    Does have dropper seat tube though.

    It's a "tool" thing for home mechanics. 44 and tapered are just headaches waiting to happen right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brant View Post
    We are.

    sweeeeeeeeeeeet

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    Any news when the Evo 2 will be available?
    Is there any geometry changes to old Evo, or are the only differences to old version just new dropouts and different seatpost diameter? Wish there will be some brighter color options than raw metal and dark blue.

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    Day glow green would be sick!!!!!

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    anybody know if the decals can come off? I assume not, but thought I'd ask. I have the blue one if that makes a difference...

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    Evo2...nice!... 30,9 or 31,6 seat tube?..I have a EVO 1 with a 27,2 Gravity Dropper..its ok.but Im sorry I cant use it with my Reverb which talking some dust at the moment..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jingleman View Post
    Evo2...nice!... 30,9 or 31,6 seat tube?..I have a EVO 1 with a 27,2 Gravity Dropper..its ok.but Im sorry I cant use it with my Reverb which talking some dust at the moment..
    30.9

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    any news on the evo2 release date?

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    6 weeks is what I was told today for a 20" raw 456 evo-II.

    I got my money waiting, cannot wait to start a build!

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    Quote Originally Posted by brant View Post
    Evo2 doesn't have tapered headtube (or a 44).
    Does have dropper seat tube though.

    It's a "tool" thing for home mechanics. 44 and tapered are just headaches waiting to happen right now.
    Hey Brant, care to tease us with any pics of that new Evo2 carbon creation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MondoRides View Post
    Hey Brant, care to tease us with any pics of that new Evo2 carbon creation?
    The only shots are on Instagram

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grip View Post
    6 weeks is what I was told today for a 20" raw 456 evo-II.

    I got my money waiting, cannot wait to start a build!
    haha I like the way you think. 20" and raw. I can't wait to get one myself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by brant View Post
    The only shots are on Instagram
    Cool, thx!

    Quote Originally Posted by shedfire
    @pneens Geometry same. Headtube length same. Seat tube different in and out.
    Did I understand your Instagram comments correctly that the new c456 Evo will have the same geometry as the current c456 and not the 456 Evo?

    456 evo-c456evo_0.jpg456 evo-c456evo_1.jpg456 evo-c456evo_2.jpg456 evo-c456evo_3.jpg

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    456 EVO-II....want!

    I check the website multiple times a week hoping that one of these times it will be available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grip View Post
    456 EVO-II....want!

    I check the website multiple times a week hoping that one of these times it will be available.
    same here! I almost want to buy the current evo complete bike just for the frame lol
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    456 evo-7a175b72debf11e2aa5122000aaa0feb_7.jpg

    warranty voided I suppose having the headtube sanded to metal, but great looking head badge

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    Love the badge
    The new 456carbon looks really good too!
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    DSC_5318 por fertxitxito, en Flickr

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    Photo by ononebikes • Instagram

    The evoII is almost here.

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    Awesome!

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    Still don't understand the reasoning for only offering the 1 1/8" headtube on the new EVO II? On-One's response on FB: "But this is a frame for the thousands of people who have regular headsets and forks, and just want something simple at the right price." What about the other people who do own tapered forks? With a 44mm headtube, both parties can enjoy this awesome frame, with the old standard, not so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    Still don't understand the reasoning for only offering the 1 1/8" headtube on the new EVO II? On-One's response on FB: "But this is a frame for the thousands of people who have regular headsets and forks, and just want something simple at the right price." What about the other people who do own tapered forks? With a 44mm headtube, both parties can enjoy this awesome frame, with the old standard, not so much.
    There are about three 44mm headsets in the whole world, and nobody has any tools for facing or reaming. Only a handful of lunatics really care.

    Tapered steel head tubes weigh a metric tonne too.

    We're supporting tapered on our carbon models. If 44mm gets its act together we might go with it, but for now, I'm more than happy to get people rolling on this.

    Bear in mind, every day I answer at least three emails from people who think they can't run straight steerer forks in tapered steerer tube frames.

    I'm just wanting a plain and simple wonderful frame. I think we've delivered that.

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    When can i send you money for a frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grip View Post
    When can i send you money for a frame?
    I'm down to write some words tomorrow, then we'll open preorders.

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    Cool. Can i pre order through the on one website?

    20" raw evo-II

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grip View Post
    Cool. Can i pre order through the on one website?

    20" raw evo-II
    Sure thing.

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    456 evo

    Quote Originally Posted by brant View Post
    I'm just wanting a plain and simple wonderful frame. I think we've delivered that.
    Brant, you've already done this with the Inbred, Lurcher, Scandal .... Let's see, how many frames?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brant View Post
    Sure thing.
    best news I've heard all week! so, can we look forward to frame and fork bundles?

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    <a href="http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/FROO456E2/on_one_456_evo2_frame">On-One 456 Evo2</a>

    Likes. Dislikes. Anyone pre-ordering?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MKQ View Post
    <a href="http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/FROO456E2/on_one_456_evo2_frame">On-One 456 Evo2</a>

    Likes. Dislikes. Anyone pre-ordering?

    Discuss.
    I'd have liked some shorter chainstays...

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    When are the 456 Carbon Evo coming out?

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    the geo is perfect as it is and the head tube thing... well, 26 inch bikes are dead anyway! second hand market are plenty of varely used cheap forks for this frame!

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    Ill order one once i finish moving into my new place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkBenLaden View Post
    Now geared! Waiting for Carpatian mountains...
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    What size frame is do you have? Thanks.

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    got a magic gear going with 36-22. Too tight with a brand new chain, but just right with a slightly worn one. ss suits this bikes personality.

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    short ride this evening

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    Has someone already got evo II frame? First comments, please.

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    Hi guys, looking some sizing help for the evo2. I am 175cm and according to the website i'm bang on for a 16" frame set.
    My other bikes have all been medium. Med 2011 Reign, Med 05 Enduro etc. My wifes bike is a 09 Giant Alias !6" and it felt too small even with a few changes to seat tube and stem so I am reluctant to order a 16" even though that is what the website is telling me.
    Can anyone advise based on their own sizing experience. Brant maybe?

    Paul.

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    16in
    no question.

    If the 14in is a small, then a 16in is a medium.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smythie View Post
    Hi guys, looking some sizing help for the evo2. I am 175cm and according to the website i'm bang on for a 16" frame set.
    My other bikes have all been medium. Med 2011 Reign, Med 05 Enduro etc. My wifes bike is a 09 Giant Alias !6" and it felt too small even with a few changes to seat tube and stem so I am reluctant to order a 16" even though that is what the website is telling me.
    Can anyone advise based on their own sizing experience. Brant maybe?

    Paul.

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    Thanks brant. Now just to decide Raw or Paprika.
    Paul.

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    Put a shorter stem (80mm) and wider bars (710) on my Evo this weekend (I'm 6'2") and just got back from a ride. Wow, what a difference! I always felt the 456 felt too small for me and I was never comfortable on it. With wider bars, the geometry is much different than the 29Inbred, but in a good way. Still climbed fine with a 130 fork up front, but it was a lot more stable and 'flickable'.

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    Can't belive there are no pictures of the new ones yet:

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    I've been waiting for pics too! Something to keep me occupied until my frame comes in and I can build it up.

    That bike is the beezkneez alright! Great looking bike; does she ride as good as she looks?

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    She really does!

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    The postman was kind enough to deliver something rather lovely yesterday (seriously, does time pass more slowly than when you're waiting for a new bike!). Worth the wait however..... The frame looks good - looks like it's worth twice the price.

    456 evo-20130827_143708.jpg456 evo-20130827_143700.jpg

    Haven't had a proper ride on it yet - just a bash around the neighborhood so don't know how it'll feel on the trail yet. Does feel great doing a bit of street however.

    Build includes Marz 44 Rc3 Ti (no air on this baby), Reverb, Minion 2.5 Exo F, Ardent 2.25 Exo R (both setup tubeless), 1 x 10 Zee derailleur with Wold Tooth "Drop Stop" chainring and BBG Bashy.
    Total build is 13kg's on the dot.

    As soon as I am over this damn flu I'm gonna give her a thrashin'

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    I really want one right now- I think the UK site had free shipping when I last checked- but I want to run 650b/265x2.5 tires, and it sounds sketchy on the Evo II. So waiting for the 650b....

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    Today I've finishef my leftover buildup
    456 evo-img-20130901-00624.jpg

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    I am a couple of days from ordering a frame for a new build, my first in 7 years, and I am looking very hard at an evo2 20". However, being a tall guy all this talk of contemporary wheelsizes has me intrigued. I have short legs but I stand 6'2 and was settled on the 456 evo2 just a couple of days ago (I even ordered a new 26er wheelset) before reading about the fireline 29er in aluminum that should be ready to go in October/November.

    Can anyone give me any guidance on what to do? I always felt that 29ers felt a little strange (sluggish steering) but I've never had a "proper" long ride on one. The 29ers that I've tried have also all been XC race machines and I am interested in something a bit more "all mountain".

    Any advice on whether to go for the EVO2 or wait for the fireline 29er would be greatly appreciated. (Also don't bother with 650b, the first time expenses of forks and wheels is too high with the new standard).

    Also 6'2 and 33-34 inseam should fit a 20" frame right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeezKneez View Post
    Can't belive there are no pictures of the new ones yet:
    what travel fork is that? I just ordered my evo 2 frame and am stuck between 120 and 140 for my fork

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    Quote Originally Posted by obs08 View Post
    what travel fork is that? I just ordered my evo 2 frame and am stuck between 120 and 140 for my fork
    It's a Sektor TK Coil U-turn 100-140mm.
    The bike rides really nice with 120 or 140mm setting.

    On the picture it should most likely be set to 120mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeezKneez View Post
    It's a Sektor TK Coil U-turn 100-140mm.
    The bike rides really nice with 120 or 140mm setting.

    On the picture it should most likely be set to 120mm.
    that's nice, perfect set up really. is it tapered?

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    The Frame uses a classic 1 1/8 straight steerer tube, so you can only run straight forks

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeezKneez View Post
    Can't belive there are no pictures of the new ones yet:

    What pedals are those? They look like they're 5mm thick!

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    They are HT-AE01 pedals.

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    456 evo-10162435023_7366720f53_c.jpgMy 456 - a set on Flickr

    Here's the latest iteration of my EVO original. Having a blast on this bike, but I do wish it was a touch less slack on really steep climbs. Maybe it's the bar length, or the short stem, but whatever it is I find on tight steep switchbacks I kinda get hungup in the bars. That said, it's a blast going down...

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    How is everyone getting along with the short seat tubes on these frames? I'm close to pulling the trigger but the 16" seat tube is holding me back. i am 5'8 with a 31.5 inseam, barefoot.

    I have an ASR5 which has an ETT of 23.7, using a 60mm stem. The seat tube is 18.8" and I have about 8.25 inches of seat post exposed. On my Med El Guapo v2 I have 9 inches of exposed seat post.

    I have dropper posts on both bikes and I don't see how I could get away with a 16" seat tube and have enough post left for minimum insertion, or the seat post would be really extended. I do understand that there is very little time spent sitting and spinning on a HT and that I'd be running it lower in most cases but I'd still like to be able get full extension for commuting, etc.

    Anyone have any ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcitizen1 View Post
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    Here's the latest iteration of my EVO original. Having a blast on this bike, but I do wish it was a touch less slack on really steep climbs. Maybe it's the bar length, or the short stem, but whatever it is I find on tight steep switchbacks I kinda get hungup in the bars. That said, it's a blast going down...
    Nice build. I see you're starting to get some "patina" on that frame. It'll be interesting to see how uniform the oxidation gets over time. Might have a rat rod bike on your hands shortly

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    Yeah, "patina" city. Unfortunately it's not uniform, but instead spots where the original coating has been nicked. I actually love the idea of the whole frame rusting and then getting a clear coat put on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fr0sty View Post
    I am a couple of days from ordering a frame for a new build, my first in 7 years, and I am looking very hard at an evo2 20". However, being a tall guy all this talk of contemporary wheelsizes has me intrigued. I have short legs but I stand 6'2 and was settled on the 456 evo2 just a couple of days ago (I even ordered a new 26er wheelset) before reading about the fireline 29er in aluminum that should be ready to go in October/November.

    Can anyone give me any guidance on what to do? I always felt that 29ers felt a little strange (sluggish steering) but I've never had a "proper" long ride on one. The 29ers that I've tried have also all been XC race machines and I am interested in something a bit more "all mountain".

    Any advice on whether to go for the EVO2 or wait for the fireline 29er would be greatly appreciated. (Also don't bother with 650b, the first time expenses of forks and wheels is too high with the new standard).

    Also 6'2 and 33-34 inseam should fit a 20" frame right?
    Sounds like you need to try and find some 29ers to demo. Although the Geo may be off a bit, it should still give you an idea of the wheel size.

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    29ers can be fun, but don't agonize about buying the wheelsize that was in for over 20 years. It still works. That said, I've had both, and the big wheels do feel nice cruising over stuff, but unless you have a really nice light 29er wheelset they'll feel noticeably less peppy than the equivalent 26er setup. I had some crappy wheels & tires initially on my 29er, then moved up to stans arches and went tubeless and the difference was incredible. Moral of the story, don't bother with 29ers if you're gonna by cheap.

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    Rigid 456EVo

    Obviously a very different ride without 5" of travel up front, but gotta say it's been fun. 456 evo-unnamed.jpg

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    456 evo-f1e12a021e5711e3a8b522000a9f3cba_7.jpg

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