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    Some crappy night pics:
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    Hi!
    First of all i want to apologize for my pure english!
    In this time of period i ride a 29er trek marlin with a lot of upgrades, like rock shox reba dua air and deore brakes and slx groupset.
    I make thoughts of sell it and start a new project with an evo frame.
    I ride a lot, about 100 kilometres per week and the most of them in high mountains but i want to exercise more in trails, so i think that an am bike would be perfect for me!
    What do you think?
    Would it be difficult to climb with this geometry and a 150mm fork?
    Thank you!

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    I ride both a SS inbred 29er (rigid) and a geared 456 with 130 up front. They're definitely different beast as you can imagine. Your Trek is geared more toward efficiency and XC riding as where the 456 is more or less a hardtail freeride bike that can still climb. There will be trade off in terms of efficiency, but I promise you the 456 will be a bit more fun to throw around on the mountain trails.
    Of course, I'm 6'2", so I pretty much view my 456 as my BMX

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    I guess it is not possible to use the syntace x12 axle on the new evo right?

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    Thank you mr col200!
    I think that i will start the 456 evo project!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fantozzi View Post
    I guess it is not possible to use the syntace x12 axle on the new evo right?
    It's not.

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    I noticed on the website that recommended fork length is 150mm max.
    Do you think 160 mm would kill the handling( it's what I have lying around)?
    If so, does anyone know if On-One has something like the bagger coming?
    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by jujuyak View Post
    I noticed on the website that recommended fork length is 150mm max.
    Do you think 160 mm would kill the handling( it's what I have lying around)?
    If so, does anyone know if On-One has something like the bagger coming?
    thanks
    We don't have a Bagger type frame in development. The frame main tubes have been CEN tested to 160mm in previous model, so I imagine it's all fine. Geoemtry will be fine with longer fork.

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    thank you

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    I may be wrong, but I don't see too many diferences with the "first generation" Summer Season frames, right?
    Just about +0'5ºhead degree angle, top tube a bit longer, and chainstays also a bit longer in size 18"... am I missing something else? Will those small changes make a huge difference?

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    Seat angle steeper, BB lower. Small tweaks. Quite a difference as a whole.

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    I missed those, thanks for your answer Brant.

    Yesterday night I sold my old 456 Summer season, and ordered an 18" EVO frame (and a 16" for a friend), so I hope I'll be noticing those differences myself pretty soon. Really eager to enjoy it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by verbo View Post
    I missed those, thanks for your answer Brant.

    Yesterday night I sold my old 456 Summer season, and ordered an 18" EVO frame (and a 16" for a friend), so I hope I'll be noticing those differences myself pretty soon. Really eager to enjoy it!
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    Hi again!
    I want to order an on one 456 evo frame but i donta know which size to pick,
    i allready sent an email at on one but i want your opinion too.
    Im 1,80 cm with 80 cm inseam, the frame that i use know is a trek marlin and because of my short inseam i have a standover broblem.
    Marlin has an 62,2 effective top tube if i choose on one 16 size with 592 effective top tube wil this be a big problem?
    Which size do you think would be better for an all mountain use?
    Thank you!

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    Proper pics! lovely bike, isn't it?
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    fer, your bike is just awesome... bueno, lo que quiero decir es que mola que te cagas

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    been meaning to ask,is the evo taking the place of both current steel 456 offerings or is just the SS being dropped and there will still be the standard 456 along with the evo? Also on that note, i have a standard 456 and love it but if the evo was an option when i got it a year and a half ago i would have opted for the evo.

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    Evo replaces 456 and SS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexiskon1 View Post
    Hi again!
    I want to order an on one 456 evo frame but i donta know which size to pick,
    i allready sent an email at on one but i want your opinion too.
    Im 1,80 cm with 80 cm inseam, the frame that i use know is a trek marlin and because of my short inseam i have a standover broblem.
    Marlin has an 62,2 effective top tube if i choose on one 16 size with 592 effective top tube wil this be a big problem?
    Which size do you think would be better for an all mountain use?
    Thank you!
    Any idea please, on one still didnt answer me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexiskon1 View Post
    Any idea please, on one still didnt answer me.
    Hard to call, but 18in would be ok.
    Fisher sounds long!

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    Quote Originally Posted by brant View Post
    Hard to call, but 18in would be ok.
    Fisher sounds long!
    Thank you for your answer Brant.

    Dont you think i will have the same standover problem again?

    I read that the standover of the 18 size with a 150mm fork will be 80cm, the same as my inseam

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    150mm hardtails are tall. You aren't.
    Standover is over rated. You will NEVER fall off and end up stood over the toptube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brant View Post
    150mm hardtails are tall. You aren't.
    Standover is over rated. You will NEVER fall off and end up stood over the toptube.
    Exactly. Standover is the last thing I'm looking at for proper fit.
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    When I said "18in is OK" - this is based on the fact you are erring towards long top tube.

    Personally a 24.5in top tube on a bike for a guy who is 5'10" seems a little long, even if you run a 40mm stem!

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    Quote Originally Posted by brant View Post
    When I said "18in is OK" - this is based on the fact you are erring towards long top tube.

    Personally a 24.5in top tube on a bike for a guy who is 5'10" seems a little long, even if you run a 40mm stem!
    i'm right in between 5'10" and 5'11" and ride an 18 inch 456 with a 60mm stem and it feels perfect. but i also have a 32" inseam and long arms.

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    Thank you for your answers
    I think i gonna buy the 16 size, because if i choose 18 i will have again the same standover problem again!
    The difference between the ett of 16 and 18 size is tinny i think and with a 60mm stem i will be ok!

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    Hello! I also got a question regarding size. I'm 190 cm tall, proportionally built, would a 20'' be better than 18''?

    Tnx!

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    yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by fer83 View Post
    Proper pics! lovely bike, isn't it?
    It is but if you used a short cage the shifting for that 1x would make it even more delicious!
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    10 speed whit a short mech derailleur will be the next upgrade but I want to kill the nice 9 speed XT cassette first

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    This seems to be a good place to ask this, because everyone else seems to be asking sizing questions; I'm 14 years old, 5 foot 6 inches (167.64cm) tall, my inseam is 32 inches (81.28cm). According to On One's sizing chart chart, I'm a 16" frame for height, but for inseam, I'm an 18" frame. I mainly do aggressive trail riding/all mountain riding. What size frame do you guys think I should get?

    Thanks ahead of time guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by strikerkidNY View Post
    This seems to be a good place to ask this, because everyone else seems to be asking sizing questions; I'm 14 years old, 5 foot 6 inches (167.64cm) tall, my inseam is 32 inches (81.28cm). According to On One's sizing chart chart, I'm a 16" frame for height, but for inseam, I'm an 18" frame. I mainly do aggressive trail riding/all mountain riding. What size frame do you guys think I should get?

    Thanks ahead of time guys!
    Are you sure that you measure your inseam correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marnas View Post
    Are you sure that you measure your inseam correct?
    Quite certain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strikerkidNY View Post
    Quite certain.
    i think the reason the previous poster was asking is because a 32" inseam on someone who is 5'6" is pretty, well, disproportionate. for example, i have an average-sized frame, and am 6' tall with a 32" inseam.

    not saying your measurements are impossible but, unless you're all legs (literally), you might want to retry.

    fwiw, i ride an 18" 456c with the measurements listed above and it fits fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robot View Post
    i think the reason the previous poster was asking is because a 32" inseam on someone who is 5'6" is pretty, well, disproportionate. for example, i have an average-sized frame, and am 6' tall with a 32" inseam.

    not saying your measurements are impossible but, unless you're all legs (literally), you might want to retry.

    fwiw, i ride an 18" 456c with the measurements listed above and it fits fine.
    But is 32" your pants inseam or cycling inseam?

    I am just under 6"1'. Pants inseam 33", cycling inseam 35.5". The latter is want matters (for standover). But the length of the frame is more important for bike fit.
    If you have long legs for your height, a smaller frame may fit better.
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    I just started my 456Evo build (the frame is beautiful!) and ran into a problem already.
    I am using the new On-One MAX Adaptable Maxle Wheelset, which uses a 9mm rear skewer. While the 9mm skewer fits the 'brake side' dropout, there's no way it's fitting in the drive side dropout. Anyone else experience this? Any ideas on what I should do?
    Doesn't look like I can use a 5mm QR with this wheelset either.

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    Sounds like the rear dropout slot has closed up very slightly on the gear side. A small tap to the rear mech hanger without a wheel in place could do this - or of course, thick paint/laquer in the dropout (the frames are hung vertically when drying) could do that too.

    The difference between fit/not fit is tiny - and I'm sure a small amount of gentle tweaking would fix it.

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    That's kinda what I was thinking. Will definitely give that a shot tonight. Thanks!

    Before building it up, I was able to directly compare the Evo (20") to my (used and abused) baby blue 456. I can definitely see some minor changes in the geometry. The seat tube angle and the chainstay length were noticeably different. Should be interesting to see how those affect the ride.

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    In the mail

    Just ordered up two Evo frames. a 16 and an 18. I'll let you all know when they show up in the states, and how they turn out.

    I ordered one with the Revelation. Is there a definitive answer on if it can be shrunk down to 130mm? I've been getting mixed messages.

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    ^ You did order from the USA dealer, right? and not the UK dealer?
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    I'm still waiting on my 456 evo frame to be delivered to me here in the US of A, apparently TNT international shipping sucks! If my frame would have been shipped fedex or UPS it would have been here already....
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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown-rider View Post
    I'm still waiting on my 456 evo frame to be delivered to me here in the US of A, apparently TNT international shipping sucks! If my frame would have been shipped fedex or UPS it would have been here already....
    I love DHL and overseas shipping of bike stuff. They take 2 and 1/2 days to get to me in the U.S. It scares me... really... it does...
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    Something ugly happens to the rear rim in the last pic, note the raw nipples too
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    456 EVO 16" are out of stock..any idea when they will be available again?
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jingleman View Post
    456 EVO 16" are out of stock..any idea when they will be available again?
    Thanks
    May 10th

    ps: here's a pic of the complete bike.

    » 456 Evo X5 Sektor – £799 all day long (unless they sell out then we’ll put them up a bit) Shed Fire : Designing for On-One, Titus and Planet X from Calderdale.

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    Thanks..in the meanwhile you will think about how and when the 29" summer season will come out..I guess I want to build up a 456 ..

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    So I got my 456 Evo frame yesterday, yeah! Anywho, I mounted up the 8" rotors I had ordered and realized that on the frame there was a millimeter or less of clearance between the left chainstay and the rotor. so it's probably best to keep to 7" or under on the rear wheel... lol. I'll post pics once I get my chainguide mounted. As she sits she weighs in at ~33.5lbs, might have something to do with the 6.5lb marzocchi fork, 2.5" intense front tire, DH crank and hayes stroker ace DH brakes with 8" rotors ;D
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    Hey guys...I got the new 456 EVO frame...is a face milling of the headset and bottom bracket necessary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fantozzi View Post
    Hey guys...I got the new 456 EVO frame...is a face milling of the headset and bottom bracket necessary?
    I've never ever done it on my own bike.

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    I'm actually gonna get it done tonight since 0/2 headsets worked well on my new Evo frame, but worked fine on my old 456.

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