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    Youth music no longer rebellious. Just a bunch of squares...

    First off, im 30 so not that old. I started wondering about something today, How come I never hear about bands tearing apart hotel rooms, pissing on stage, getting band from places or driving cars into hotel pools? What happened? Is everyone PC now? Or am i just out of touch?

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    Probably just got tired of having to pay for all that sh!t.
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    Because spoiled ass rich kids have nothing to rebel against?
    But if you close your eyes it becomes so easy to see

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    The perfect explanation...

    "I thought of that while riding my bike."
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    rebellious equates to imbeciles, always has always will.

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    If you're trying to build your brand then tearing up hotel rooms won't work. Plus Disney and Walmart frowns on such behavior.
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    yeah. it hasnt been the same since GG Allin died

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    That type of behavior was almost exclusively limited to Rock bands, of which there are no more. There are no more bands fighting passionately against their label to play their own music, today's artists give their record labels whatever they ask for. I get the impression that artists today have sold out and don't care what they record as long as it sells records for their label.

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    whatever happened to that dumb canadian kid..... bieber

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    And a lot of bands have their own labels. Its a fundamentally different landscape now.

    You could argue the most rebellious music is rap. Many of those artists like to shoot each other so I guess you could say that there are still rowdy segments in the music world.
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    I don't know why, but it seems that rock bands do their best work when strung out on heroin and cocaine...which means 1 or 2 great albums then the music goes in the crapper or somebody dies.

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    ^^Look what happened to Aerosmith after they sobered up.
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    I think I'll keep my head out of this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mookie View Post
    ^^Look what happened to Aerosmith after they sobered up.
    Yeah, there really wasn't another Toys in the Attic now was there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JACKL View Post
    Yeah, there really wasn't another Toys in the Attic now was there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    I think I'll keep my head out of this one.
    LOL. That lasted all of six minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by net wurker View Post
    LOL. That lasted all of six minutes.
    I know I know it was tough but I caved.
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    Yer a social butterfly. You just can't help it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JACKL View Post
    Yeah, there really wasn't another Toys in the Attic now was there!
    No, there was not!

    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    Dream On
    Train Train

    All the early stuff kicked ass on the later stuff.
    Yeah it did.

    I also really like Rocks. Actually that's one of my all time fave albums to rock out to. Its been awhile though. Maybe I'll just have give it whirl sometime.
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    There is still a rebellious streak in music, although it is harder to find these days. The point about rock music being a dying genre is certainly valid, that whole style is what I call 'swagger' music, and a big part of that was the idea of self-promotion and being "more f*cked up than you, and I'm gonna show you how messed up I can get!" Much of this behavior was encouraged both overtly and covertly, by the press, by managers, by hangers-on, promoting the theory that this rebelliousness would spawn greater numbers of fans in a more rebellious age. Society has changed a lot in the last 2 or 3 decades, and that behavior is much more frowned upon. Kids want their own instant gratification, and living vicariously thru your idols' messed up behavior does not hold the same thrill as acting out the same behavior yourself in some violent video game. Yes, we are more PC than before, but that is only true with a small percentage of the world's population, so is only true in our culture. A lot of the change is also due to the fact that the excesses that spawned these acts in the past were caused by massive ingestion of dangerous substances, and that simply cannot continue in a normal human body. Addictions were brought out to a degree previously unknown, with all the attendant issues. Decades of abuse will eventually lead to death or sobriety. In the former case the music will die, in the latter, the music will change.

    if we are to talk about the nature of the music, that is another ball game. Talent is always there, it is how it is nurtured and allowed to develop that will dictate what most of us get to hear at any time. Today's music industry is a WHOLE lot different to when I got involved in the early 70s. More people taking a larger slice of an ever-decreasing pie. Greed and the bottom line dictating how things work, rather than the integrity of the music. It is sad, but it will come back.
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    Creed's Scott Stapp (no spring chicken) is currently having a melt down

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    Train Train
    What what?

    "Train Train" was Blackfoot


    You meant "Train kept a rollin'?"


    I always liked the song that followed it on "Get your wings", "Seasons of whither".


    "Toys" was their best overall album IMO. "Rocks" and "Draw the Line" caught them on the decline. Nothing after that but radio schlock.

    I never liked them after they sobered up primarily because it coincided with them selling out.
    But if you close your eyes it becomes so easy to see

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    My favorite Aerosmith tune...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockerc View Post
    There is still a rebellious streak in music, although it is harder to find these days. The point about rock music being a dying genre is certainly valid, that whole style is what I call 'swagger' music, and a big part of that was the idea of self-promotion and being "more f*cked up than you, and I'm gonna show you how messed up I can get!" Much of this behavior was encouraged both overtly and covertly, by the press, by managers, by hangers-on, promoting the theory that this rebelliousness would spawn greater numbers of fans in a more rebellious age. Society has changed a lot in the last 2 or 3 decades, and that behavior is much more frowned upon. Kids want their own instant gratification, and living vicariously thru your idols' messed up behavior does not hold the same thrill as acting out the same behavior yourself in some violent video game. Yes, we are more PC than before, but that is only true with a small percentage of the world's population, so is only true in our culture. A lot of the change is also due to the fact that the excesses that spawned these acts in the past were caused by massive ingestion of dangerous substances, and that simply cannot continue in a normal human body. Addictions were brought out to a degree previously unknown, with all the attendant issues. Decades of abuse will eventually lead to death or sobriety. In the former case the music will die, in the latter, the music will change.

    if we are to talk about the nature of the music, that is another ball game. Talent is always there, it is how it is nurtured and allowed to develop that will dictate what most of us get to hear at any time. Today's music industry is a WHOLE lot different to when I got involved in the early 70s. More people taking a larger slice of an ever-decreasing pie. Greed and the bottom line dictating how things work, rather than the integrity of the music. It is sad, but it will come back.
    +1 to what rocker said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mookie View Post
    No, there was not!



    Yeah it did.

    I also really like Rocks. Actually that's one of my all time fave albums to rock out to. Its been awhile though. Maybe I'll just have give it whirl sometime.
    That's funny...I popped that in the CD player in my truck about 2 months ago when I went biking with my buddies. "Sick as a Dog" is my favorite on that one.

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