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    Waterproof breathable technical shells

    Not a typical OC thread, I know, but I'm assuming most of you do something outside other than just ride bikes.

    My 13 yr old Marmot goretex jacket seems to have reached the end of the road. I wore it in the rain on Saturday, and it barely put up a fight against the water -- I was wet in about 30 minutes. It is 13 yrs old, has about 300 ski days on it, and has received numerous Nikwax treatments that don't seem to work anymore. So I think I'm about ready to find a new technical shell.

    As I'm looking at jackets, I see a lot of proprietary waterproof-breathable systems, especially on the lower priced jackets. I don't really need a $600 gortex pro shell anymore, as I don't ski and backpack and stuff as much as I used to when I laid down the coin for the top of the line Marmot. But I do hate leaky jackets, and I do hate jackets that don't breathe fairly well.

    Anyone have experience with some of these proprietary systems, ie, Membrain, H2No, etc. Do they work as well and last like Goretex? Or is Goretex the way to go?
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    This is a decent article pointing to alternatives.
    I've always liked Patagonia's approach...its either water-proof or breathable.

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    THe wife and I have a couple Marmot Precip jackets and they are very nice.
    I still have a Marmot 'Alpine Light' that has been through a lot and still performs.
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    Check out EMS--I've been buying their stuff since the 70's and never been let down.
    CHeck out this one.
    EMS Men's Deluge Rain Jacket - Eastern Mountain Sports
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    And this old favorite...
    Patagonia Men's Storm Jacket
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    I have an older version of this one for high activity like running and riding. Stuffs to nothing and is very lite. Sheds light rain in front and allows moisture 'push' out the back.
    Patagonia Men's Nine Trails Running Jacket
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    Just be aware that the less expensive/lighter weight WPBs are often coated instead of laminates and they don't last nearly as long. The newer goretex is extremely breathable. I have a jacket made from it and I like it a lot. If you're looking to save some coin, check out Sierra Trading Post.
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    I have used many north face jackets and they are nice and reasonably priced

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    Waterproof breathable technical shells

    The old mantra, "you get what you pay for", has never been truer when it comes to technical shells. The Patagonia storm is light and waterproof, but a terrible breather. Fairly cheap too. I have an arcterrex soft shell that is extremely breathable, but only moisture resistant. My marmot gortex is both.

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    I have an Arc'teryx gortex shell that I purchased 6 years ago. It looks like new. For winter and fall rides I wear a fleece base and I am toasty warm and dry. It has zip vents. It is an expensive brand but well worth the investment
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    Thanks for the input everyone. Looking for something a little more substantial than the lightweight rain jackets (eg, Arcteryx Theta AR, Patagonia Triolet) that I can use for skiing and stuff, although the lightweight rain jackets are looking very nice as well. I think I'm going to go with a 3-layer Gortex, or an eVent jacket. There are a lot more brands and types of fabric than there were when I was jacket shopping 13 yrs ago.
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    Gore-tex is gore-tex. Its all about how well the garment is sewn up, zippers and how tech it is for your chosen function.
    I stick with the well known and proven names. Patagonia, North Face, Marmot, Mountain Hardware and Arcterx--to name a few. I've never gone wrong. As far as EMS and REI--it depends. They have great stuff and not so great stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Settertude View Post
    Gore-tex is gore-tex. Its all about how well the garment is sewn up, zippers and how tech it is for your chosen function.
    I stick with the well known and proven names. Patagonia, North Face, Marmot, Mountain Hardware and Arcterx--to name a few. I've never gone wrong. As far as EMS and REI--it depends. They have great stuff and not so great stuff.
    Agreed,Would add Helly Hansen to the list of quality jackets definitely in front of North Face they seem to have slipped somewhat.
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    Is this a clothing forum now? What about some good old waterproof breathable KITCHENS!!!

    I know where to get some... cheap...
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    Anything Latex is great for watersports.
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    GoldfingerStyle...

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