I could possibly see the mistake if the dogs were not with the owner and had collars with lights..., and well maybe if the hunter stayed around too. His leaving the scene was a sure sign of his ignorance and guilt. Sad deal all around...
"We can always find excuses if we want to find them, but if we really want to do something, we have to just go."
I could possibly see the mistake if the dogs were not with the owner and had collars with lights..., and well maybe if the hunter stayed around too. His leaving the scene was a sure sign of his ignorance and guilt. Sad deal all around...
His actions in front of the owner suggest to me he knew all along what he was doing and was just out for some sick and twisted fun. Hang me by his nuts I say.
Originally Posted by NDD
Dude, I'm in Illinois. The only place anyone would come from that would say this area is hilly is Kansas.
His actions in front of the owner suggest to me he knew all along what he was doing and was just out for some sick and twisted fun. Hang me by his nuts I say.
I agree 100%. I was just saying that if that dog was out wandering alone in the woods, it could easily be mistook for a wolf. However, all of the circumstances in this incident point to an ignorant douche that is indeed deserving of being hung by the nutts.
DJ - why would YOU want to be hung from his nutts???
"We can always find excuses if we want to find them, but if we really want to do something, we have to just go."
I agree 100%. I was just saying that if that dog was out wandering alone in the woods, it could easily be mistook for a wolf. However, all of the circumstances in this incident point to an ignorant douche that is indeed deserving of being hung by the nutts.
DJ - why would YOU want to be hung from his nutts???
Ha,ha just came off an all nighter at work, oop's!
Originally Posted by NDD
Dude, I'm in Illinois. The only place anyone would come from that would say this area is hilly is Kansas.
If he could mistake a malamute for a a wolf he has no business hunting wolves.
Yep can't fix stupid and it happens all the time. Just a month ago some dude shot a Moose here in Colorado. He said he thought it was an Elk. Yeah right they look real similar, idiot.
Originally Posted by NDD
Dude, I'm in Illinois. The only place anyone would come from that would say this area is hilly is Kansas.
Re: Some people need killin'. This guy is one of em'.
Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE
Yep can't fix stupid and it happens all the time. Just a month ago some dude shot a Moose here in Colorado. He said he thought it was an Elk. Yeah right they look real similar, idiot.
Wow, I've heard of some bad wildlife ID but that takes the cake!
Last fall a guy told me about a "monster" snow goose he shot, he even showed me a picture!
.....It was a swan.
As a hunter, it really grinds my gears when people shoot at an animal without properly IDing it. Happens a lot in waterfowl hunting, but there's really no excuse as far as I'm concerned
^I second this and I have no idea what that was in that video but it seemed similar to the time I put a 3 Musketeers with the foil wrapper in the microwave as a kid.
Wow, I've heard of some bad wildlife ID but that takes the cake!
Last fall a guy told me about a "monster" snow goose he shot, he even showed me a picture!
.....It was a swan.
As a hunter, it really grinds my gears when people shoot at an animal without properly IDing it. Happens a lot in waterfowl hunting, but there's really no excuse as far as I'm concerned
Ha,ha a monster snow goose, pretty funny. I agree no excuse especially with big game. I can see some waterfowl as in different duck species. But a swan to a goose is a huge difference especially in neck length and overall size. I couldn't believe they let this guy go for shooting a moose mistaken as an Elk.
You being a hunter I'm sure you know of the huge abundance of Canadian Geese in Colorado. They're everywhere covering people's lawns and golf courses. Last winter I saw a huge flock in a cornfield and smack in the middle were several white swans. A rare sight and at first you think snow geese because of the white color but the size was unmistakeable compared to the geese.
Originally Posted by NDD
Dude, I'm in Illinois. The only place anyone would come from that would say this area is hilly is Kansas.
^I second this and I have no idea what that was in that video but it seemed similar to the time I put a 3 Musketeers with the foil wrapper in the microwave as a kid.
An A-10 is basically a giant flying machine gun. Did you notice that you didn't hear the sound of the guns going off untill after you saw what they did to the stuff on the ground? Creepy. You don't want to be on the wrong end of one of those bad boys.
Hawg, good idea. That stroy is too sad......he needs to have something really bad happen to him.
Oh piss off about the liberal media. This is about a nut shooting a dog saying it's a wolf.
I've never understood the concept of "hunting" wolves anyway. To me you hunt for food. Now if the wolves start eating your livestock, sure you have to protect your property but that's not hunting.
Chasing bears through the woods drunk with a dull hatchet is strongly not advised
I was coming back from Organ Barrel Cactus National Parkin AZ a couple of years back, and there's a test gunnery range there for A10's where the pilots practice. Was getting dive bombed nearby by these guys while driving north to I-10 and let me tell you, the sound an A10 makes while doing a power dive... there is nothing else in the world like it... it is the sound of death from above. The A10 is not a plain plane. It's a 20mm motor driven Gattling Gun cannon that an air frame, motors and wings gets wrapped around so that the gun can fly.
The guy was hunting with an assault weapon, most people with class 3 just use them at the range. No need for an automatic weapon for hunting.
"Assault Weapon" is a liberal bias media term. If I use the same gun to protect my property, does it still make it an assault weapon or a defense weapon? Don't buy in to the liberal bias. It was a semi automatic rifle, one trigger pull, one shot, not an automatic machine gun.
Does it really fukkin matter what he was hunting with?!?! Does this have anything to do with liberal media bias?!?! Why bring this shit up anyway? The guy did something really friggin stupid, for a reason we don't actually know, whatever any media says. That's the long and short of this.
Oh piss off about the liberal media. This is about a nut shooting a dog saying it's a wolf.
I've never understood the concept of "hunting" wolves anyway. To me you hunt for food. Now if the wolves start eating your livestock, sure you have to protect your property but that's not hunting.
It's predator control, but our government has seen fit to require a hunting license and a depredation permit to do so. All wild animals are property of the State, so the State regulates the permits and method of take. They rule it as hunting. You still need tags to do it, game or non game animal. A game animal is considered edible, a non game animal is not edible.
people are wayyyyy to eager to kill natural predators, out of fear and inconvenience. Then they complain when there are too many prey animals. Sad.
I get sad seeing road kill or news stories about mountain lions being hit by cars. Shit, I was damn near in tears this past summer when I accidentally ran over a chipmunk while driving in the Sierras. Maybe if I had to hunt for food I could but as long as their is a grocery store nearby I couldn't hurt much of anything.
Usually bow-hunters are the most careful of all the hunting groups, since they typically have to make their shots at fairly close range, and only get one shot at their animal. But even they are not always so careful.
During bow-hunting season up in the Lagunas, I came across one of the nice horseback people up there, I see her quite regularly. She always rides with her German sShorthair Pointer running up ahead of her. Very well behaved dog, no problem with him at all.
On that day, she had her dog wearing an orange safety vest. I remarked that it seemed like a good idea, whereupon she told me that a couple of years ago, a bow hunter actually took a shot at her dog, mistaking him for a deer!
Another bow hunter up there shot a mountain lion last year, claiming self defense. F&G officers recovered the carcass, and easily determined that the shot entered the cat's body from the back. I believe he was charged with a fairly serious crime, and I would agree with a serious charge leveled in a case like that. The hunter who took a shot at the lady's dog should have also been cited, but I don't believe she reported it.
Like I said, she's a nice lady.
Usually bow-hunters are the most careful of all the hunting groups, since they typically have to make their shots at fairly close range, and only get one shot at their animal. But even they are not always so careful.
During bow-hunting season up in the Lagunas, I came across one of the nice horseback people up there, I see her quite regularly. She always rides with her German sShorthair Pointer running up ahead of her. Very well behaved dog, no problem with him at all.
On that day, she had her dog wearing an orange safety vest. I remarked that it seemed like a good idea, whereupon she told me that a couple of years ago, a bow hunter actually took a shot at her dog, mistaking him for a deer!
Another bow hunter up there shot a mountain lion last year, claiming self defense. F&G officers recovered the carcass, and easily determined that the shot entered the cat's body from the back. I believe he was charged with a fairly serious crime, and I would agree with a serious charge leveled in a case like that. The hunter who took a shot at the lady's dog should have also been cited, but I don't believe she reported it.
Like I said, she's a nice lady.
That's crazy I remember a lady horseback rider with a German Shorthair up there. She's always up there on the BIg Laguna Trail. And yes I remember she's very personable.
Originally Posted by NDD
Dude, I'm in Illinois. The only place anyone would come from that would say this area is hilly is Kansas.
Ugh. Reminds me of a few years back, there was a slew of wild mustangs slaughterings near where I lived. They found herds riddled with bullet holes, absolute massacres. Wild mustangs are only a mild nuisance, if at all, because there was so little farming in the area. There were ranches, and they don't bother those. I am sure shooting all the coyotes and wolves didn't help the situation. They were never out of control either. I would only hear of someone losing a pet every once in a while, and the ranchers kept them under control just by having dogs around.
The saddest part is, when people got too upset over the horses, the state rounded them up and auctioned them off. Whatever couldn't be sold was shot anyways. So sad... Everyone I knew was always overjoyed when they spotted a herd. They only hung around the outskirts, and were cautious and skiddish. Dogs could keep them away as well. A healthy wolf and coyote population keeps the numbers low. Slaughter is rarely needed to keep things under control. They balance themselves if you let it. Once you mess with the population of one, the other gets out of control. Keep the wild animals off your property so they don't feed and gain advantage, and let them figure things out with each other.
Ugh. Reminds me of a few years back, there was a slew of wild mustangs slaughterings near where I lived. They found herds riddled with bullet holes, absolute massacres. Wild mustangs are only a mild nuisance, if at all, because there was so little farming in the area. There were ranches, and they don't bother those. I am sure shooting all the coyotes and wolves didn't help the situation. They were never out of control either. I would only hear of someone losing a pet every once in a while, and the ranchers kept them under control just by having dogs around.
The saddest part is, when people got too upset over the horses, the state rounded them up and auctioned them off. Whatever couldn't be sold was shot anyways. So sad... Everyone I knew was always overjoyed when they spotted a herd. They only hung around the outskirts, and were cautious and skiddish. Dogs could keep them away as well. A healthy wolf and coyote population keeps the numbers low. Slaughter is rarely needed to keep things under control. They balance themselves if you let it. Once you mess with the population of one, the other gets out of control. Keep the wild animals off your property so they don't feed and gain advantage, and let them figure things out with each other.
Wasn't that the case where a couple marines used assault rifles on herds of wild mustangs. They got busted and sent to the Brig.
Originally Posted by NDD
Dude, I'm in Illinois. The only place anyone would come from that would say this area is hilly is Kansas.
I actually don't recall them catching the guys, but that sounds about right. There were too many bullet holes for semi-auto weapons. The animals were riddled with them.
"Assault Weapon" is a liberal bias media term. If I use the same gun to protect my property, does it still make it an assault weapon or a defense weapon? Don't buy in to the liberal bias. It was a semi automatic rifle, one trigger pull, one shot, not an automatic machine gun.
I know that, its kinda hard to read sarcasm at times. I hate when everything is an assault weapon cause it looks mean.
Originally Posted by Boyonadyke
I was coming back from Organ Barrel Cactus National Parkin AZ a couple of years back, and there's a test gunnery range there for A10's where the pilots practice. Was getting dive bombed nearby by these guys while driving north to I-10 and let me tell you, the sound an A10 makes while doing a power dive... there is nothing else in the world like it... it is the sound of death from above. The A10 is not a plain plane. It's a 20mm motor driven Gattling Gun cannon that an air frame, motors and wings gets wrapped around so that the gun can fly.
I actually don't recall them catching the guys, but that sounds about right. There were too many bullet holes for semi-auto weapons. The animals were riddled with them.
Sure did get caught and here's a link to the whole ordeal. Scroll to the bottom to see trial results of the jackasses. Dec 1998 wild horses slaughtered-killed
Originally Posted by NDD
Dude, I'm in Illinois. The only place anyone would come from that would say this area is hilly is Kansas.
Sure did get caught and here's a link to the whole ordeal. Scroll to the bottom to see trial results of the jackasses. Dec 1998 wild horses slaughtered-killed
Ohhhh... that one was a while ago! I remember that one too, it was the worst one. There were pictures circulating around, and I avoided them.
There was another string of random slaughters just a few years ago. 2008-2010ish. There were two or three incidents, and I think they were trying to determine if they were related. I tried to google it but only came up with one of them (some drunk hunters gunned down half a dozen mustangs for drunken fun.) One of the incidents might have been a violent butchering of a coral of horses (domesticated, not mustangs), and I seem to recall one incident being a single gunned down mustang/ mule/ horse or a single violently butchered mustang/ mule/ horse... but I don't remember for sure. It was right around the time I left town, so I heard it in passing. Locals have a real respect for the wildlife and animals, even though most aren't rural types. Some nutjob comes through and does something crazy to animals, and the whole town went nuts. Even finding cock fighting rings was big news, even though there is plenty of space to get away with it. No one did it but crazies who rolled through town.
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