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    So does it exist?

    Looking for a place:

    a) offers affordable semi-suburban within close proximity (i.e., <10 miles) from major urban; talking buying not renting

    b) temperate climate (i.e., no snow, no desert)

    c) year round riding that can be easily accessed (i.e., ride to the trails from the front door)

    Go, OC . . . go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRingGrinder View Post
    define affordable
    I consider $1000/sqft expensive (which is about how much my current area is). I'd ideally like to cut that by half or more. $250 - 300 per sqft. more realistic I think.
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    Reno/that area of Nevada fulfills 1/3 of those requirements.
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    A couple of thoughts -

    Reno, Nevada. Not the greatest riding, but its there. Awesome access to Lake Tahoe and Downieville riding. A little snow, but not a huge amount.

    Folsom/El Dorado Hills, Ca. No snow. Maybe 15-20 days a year over 100*F. Multiple trails all around the area that can be accessed right from your house. Easy access to Lake Tahoe, Downieville, and coastal riding. Year round riding is no problem. Access to Sacramento from Hwy 50 is approx 20 miles. Great mass transit access through RT Light Rail.
    Also look into Orangevale. Not so much riding access, but homes might be a little cheaper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    I consider $1000/sqft expensive (which is about how much my current area is). I'd ideally like to cut that by half or more. $250 - 300 per sqft. more realistic I think.
    Averaging around $425/sq ft in my neighborhood. Just sayin!
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    So does it exist?

    Santa Cruz.

    What do I win?

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    Santa Cruz.

    What do I win?
    Nothing. Its not under 10 miles from an urban center.
    You fail
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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    Santa Cruz.

    What do I win?
    Quote Originally Posted by Brewtality View Post
    Nothing. Its not under 10 miles from an urban center.
    You fail
    True . . . BUT, I would move to SC in a heartbeat of there were good work options for me and my wife. It's an AMAZING, laid back kind of place that has everything I'm looking for . . . just not a job (yet).
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    True . . . BUT, I would move to SC in a heartbeat of there were good work options for me and my wife. It's an AMAZING, laid back kind of place that has everything I'm looking for . . . just not a job (yet).
    That wasn't one of the requirements. My friends commute to Mt. View. An hour! But they are way happy and have flexible hours at a tech company. And I see all their kayaking and mtbing pictures. Hmph.

    Brewtality: Scotts Valley, Boulder Creek FTW.

    Okay....there's Ventura...and... western North Carolina...and parts of Utah...and um...Georgia?

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    Yeah but all the singletrack is short and stops at a tall fence.
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    Rotorua NZ.

    Edit: never mind... probably falls short on the urban. Maybe Wellington NZ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Understater View Post
    Rotorua NZ.

    Edit: never mind... probably falls short on the urban. Maybe Wellington NZ.
    Just googled a rotorua real estate agent to post up and saw this. for the land of the long white cloud. rotorua all the way and the best part is you'll then only be just across the ditch from the lucky country but there isn't any wildlife trying to kill you.

    How does it fall short of the urban, any place with The Pig n Whistle is right up there, oh and the luge, dont forget the luge.

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    With the attributes you mentioned, climate is the most difficult to fulfill. Typically, good riding is in areas that have a changeable climate by their very nature: Mountains. That is after all the name of our chosen sport! I think the options mentioned in CA are probably the best, but then the job thing comes up... that will make it tricky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    ...and um...Georgia?

    Not too sure about the ride-out-the-door requirement, but it does have everything else listed.


    007, how do you feel about humidity?
    I'm enjoying my childhood way too much to ever give it up.

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    How do you define "major urban"? Prescott AZ. (pronounced Prezkitt) checks most of the boxes and is in proximity to some of the most spectacular rides in the country.

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    La Crescenta, CA.

    Minimal commute to da Big City, beautiful/safe area, fresh air, suburban feel, great school district, great riding in all directions, temperate climate. Surfing, skiing, shopping, Island hopping, fishing, hotties, all here or not far away. This is the center of paradise/center of the universe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockerc View Post
    With the attributes you mentioned, climate is the most difficult to fulfill. Typically, good riding is in areas that have a changeable climate by their very nature: Mountains. That is after all the name of our chosen sport! I think the options mentioned in CA are probably the best, but then the job thing comes up... that will make it tricky.
    Yup . . . fully realize that part. We basically want to avoid snow and a prolonged winter.

    Quote Originally Posted by skullcap View Post
    Not too sure about the ride-out-the-door requirement, but it does have everything else listed.


    007, how do you feel about humidity?
    I can handle humidity . . . I'm from Detroit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty $anchez View Post
    How do you define "major urban"? Prescott AZ. (pronounced Prezkitt) checks most of the boxes and is in proximity to some of the most spectacular rides in the country.
    Prescott would be too small, but Scottsdale/Phoenix area would be a strong candidate as long as I thought I could adjust to the heat.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    La Crescenta, CA.

    Minimal commute to da Big City, beautiful/safe area, fresh air, suburban feel, great school district, great riding in all directions, temperate climate. Surfing, skiing, shopping, Island hopping, fishing, hotties, all here or not far away. This is the center of paradise/center of the universe.
    LOL . . . I knew that was coming That and The 'Dena if we stay in the area . . .
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    Colorado Springs. We do get snow but you can still pretty much ride year round, especially if you don't mind a short drive to P-blo
    Just circles turning circles....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post

    I can handle humidity . . . I'm from Detroit.



    Bwahahahahahahah! That's what I said before I came here--I'm also originally from Michigan.



    No.


    I'm talking 100% humidity (no lie) and 95 degrees F. I'm talking about walking out of your house at 6:30 in the morning and it feels like you just walked into the steam room at the gym. Every one of my neighbors says the same thing walking out to their cars to go to work (myself included)-- "Feels like a sauna out here." It's about to start and it will continue until some time in September.

    The rest of the year it's great weather and I love it, but you had better HTFU in the summer or you're not going to make it. That being said, I typically ride through the summers but I learned pretty quick to carry ice water and keep a cooler with a cooling kit in it in the car. When your sweat won't evaporate you can overheat fast no matter how well hydrated you are.
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    For sure, not Nebraska. Check that one off the list. We got snow up into May this year. No mountains and civilization is spotty as well. Good luck on your search though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bethany1 View Post
    For sure, not Nebraska. Check that one off the list. We got snow up into May this year. No mountains and civilization is spotty as well. Good luck on your search though.
    Yeah, I know to pretty much avoid the entire midsection of the country . . . . and most of the Northeast . . . and ALL of Florida.

    Basically, I'm looking for WEST of the Rockies (Denver is close enough). An opportunity has presented itself that may take me to Las Vegas . . . those summers could be pretty brutal though.
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    Boise.

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    I know the biking in Idaho is supposed to be great, but too much snow and I hear its windy from Early January through late december.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    I know the biking in Idaho is supposed to be great, but too much snow and I hear its windy from Early January through late december.
    Boise doesn't get snow, at least not much. Winter is very short. However, August and much of September are very hot. Wind, yes.

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    Suburbs in the counties outside of Richmond, VA

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    La Crescenta is not s HOT as Pasadena in the Summer time and the air is definitely cleaner up here. Don't let PZ read this, LOL!

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    Besides what's been said:

    Santa fe and Albuquerque. Light snow, but easy to escape to ride year round and it doesn't stick around anyway. It's high desert so nothing too bad on temps.

    The northwest: Portland and Seattle are very temperate, since it's in the temperate rainforest. But yeah, rain. And moldy basements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    Looking for a place:

    a) offers affordable semi-suburban within close proximity (i.e., <10 miles) from major urban; talking buying not renting

    b) temperate climate (i.e., no snow, no desert)

    c) year round riding that can be easily accessed (i.e., ride to the trails from the front door)

    Go, OC . . . go.
    Guadalajara, Jalisco.

    Perfect weather, year round cycling, 6,000 feet elevation, beautiful women (the current Ms. Universe is from GDL).

    NEXT!

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    Technically, Denver is EAST of the Rockies!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    La Crescenta is not s HOT as Pasadena in the Summer time and the air is definitely cleaner up here. Don't let PZ read this, LOL!
    Hey! our air is just fine! I only had to use a respirator twice last summer.
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    You could come to Austin. It gets pretty hot in the summer, but nothing you can't ride in. Lots of trails within 30 minutes of Austin, and even more within an hour. Housing is affordable by your standard. And, the people are weird!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laozi View Post
    Guadalajara, Jalisco.

    Perfect weather, year round cycling, 6,000 feet elevation, beautiful women (the current Ms. Universe is from GDL).

    NEXT!
    You forgot all the excersize you get dodging the drug cartels.

    And the dirty water that will give you the sh!ts.
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    I was going to mention Ft. Collins CO but it does get snow and can be windy as hell....great "little big town" tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewtality View Post
    You forgot all the excersize you get dodging the drug cartels.

    And the dirty water that will give you the sh!ts.
    You are confusing GDL with the border towns.

    A common mistake from uneducated Americans who still believe they are better than everyone else in the world.

    It's ok, we really can't expect anything more.

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    Have a pic (not me btw):



    That's not you?
    Really?
    A little disappointed here.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewtality View Post
    That's not you?
    Really?
    A little disappointed here.



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    Yeah, me too.

    oth, if that was me, I'd never leave the house, if you know what I'm saying...

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    Define "major urban".
    I'm about 10 km from the center of a town of 200,000+ inhabitants. Depending on which way I want to go, the first short piece of singletrack is 30 seconds to 90 seconds from my door. and those lead to paths that lead to more trails etc. No mountains: up and down small hills. People walking their dogs mainly keep the snow well packed on the trails in winter. No floods, hurricanes, or earthquakes.

    "it IS possible that you are faster or slower than anybody else who is having at least as much if not more or less fun"

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    That wasn't one of the requirements. My friends commute to Mt. View. An hour! But they are way happy and have flexible hours at a tech company. And I see all their kayaking and mtbing pictures. Hmph.

    Brewtality: Scotts Valley, Boulder Creek FTW.
    I commute into N San Jose = 45 minutes.

    World class ST within 3 minutes of my front door (by bike). Walking distance into town. Super safe and clean lil' city. Year round riding. Here's the view from my kitchen:
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUM View Post
    I commute into N San Jose = 45 minutes.

    World class ST within 3 minutes of my front door (by bike). Walking distance into town. Super safe and clean lil' city. Year round riding. Here's the view from my kitchen:
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    But does that mean that i have to pretend we'z friends and ride wif you?

    I keeed . . . . trust me, that whole are is near the top of my list. A potential job opportunity just came to light yesterday in Palo Alto. Obviously not the same neck of the woods, but damn near close. Its almost as expensive as where I currently am, but there you're dollar goes a little further.
    Alcohol may lead nowhere, but it sure is the scenic route!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    but Scottsdale/Phoenix area would be a strong candidate as long as I thought I could adjust to the heat..
    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    temperate climate (i.e., no snow, no desert).
    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    Las Vegas . . . those summers could be pretty brutal though.
    eh hem.

    Palo Alto is fine. You can live within the redwoods in La Honda or Pescadero or something.

    Chum, is that a retrotec? I think I keep asking you that.... :P

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    Palo Alto is Egg-spen-ziv

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    eh hem.

    Palo Alto is fine. You can live within the redwoods in La Honda or Pescadero or something.
    I know, I know! The desert doesn't really appeal to me . . . but the problem is that there's a pretty downright amazing job opportunity there (in Vegas) that would be a very strong career move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    Palo Alto is Egg-spen-ziv
    No more than where I'm at now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    No more than where I'm at now.
    I thought the idea was to live somewhere a bit less expensive? Well, Vegas is surely that.

    If you do move to Vegas, I can see it now, you'll be on a first name basis at all the major casinos. A major high roller. Comp'ed everywhere you go. Snakeskin pointy tipped boots, bleached prickly hair, satin shirt half way buttoned up, struttin' & strollin' every step of the way, ....

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    Knoxville or Chattanooga? Not major urban, but urban. Maybe Little Rock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laozi View Post
    You are confusing GDL with the border towns.

    A common mistake from uneducated Americans who still believe they are better than everyone else in the world.

    It's ok, we really can't expect anything more.

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    Stuff it.

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