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    Sliding Compound Miter Saw Suggestions?

    So I'm the owner of a fixer upper. I'm looking to pick up my first sliding miter saw. My fiance has big plans for me, showing me pictures of everything from fences, to furniture, to indoor cat shelves and crown molding. I don't want to skimp on my tools since it looks like I'm going to be busy. Minimally, it needs to cut a 4x4 at 90 degrees without flipping.

    This one from Hitachi is topping my list due to value and good reviews.
    Shop Hitachi 12-in 15-Amp Dual Bevel Sliding Compound Laser Miter Saw at Lowes.com

    Anyone have any suggestions for other saws that can cut my arm off?
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    Any saw can cut your arm off, some just take a little longer.

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    Can tell you that the Hitacki that I had was the worst ever and was glad when it finally quit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theMeat View Post
    Can tell you that the Hitacki that I had was the worst ever and was glad when it finally quit.
    Really? I was actually looking at a Craftsman and a Dewalt, never even thought of Hitachi. But the more I read, the better Hitachi looked. They actually offer a 5 year warranty. The big 'C' and 'D'... only 90 days.

    May I ask why it sucked?
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    I cut everything except trim with a circular saw. Trim I use a fine tooth hand saw or hack saw. Power tools simply allow you to screw stuff up at a higher rate of speed.

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    Sliding Compound Miter Saw Suggestions?

    Go with a 14" DeWalt. With tools there is no "good enough". buy more saw than you think you need. you'll have years of trouble free use and convenience. The compound miter saw is THE most important tool for a DIY homeowner. You will use it constantly. Skimp on groceries and clothes, do not bargain shop for tools.

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    I can't make a straight cut on a 2x4 with a circular saw. It looks like I hacked it blindfolded with a steak knife.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kubikeman View Post
    So I'm the owner of a fixer upper. I'm looking to pick up my first sliding miter saw. My fiance has big plans for me, showing me pictures of everything from fences, to furniture, to indoor cat shelves and crown molding. I don't want to skimp on my tools since it looks like I'm going to be busy. Minimally, it needs to cut a 4x4 at 90 degrees without flipping.

    This one from Hitachi is topping my list due to value and good reviews.
    Shop Hitachi 12-in 15-Amp Dual Bevel Sliding Compound Laser Miter Saw at Lowes.com

    Anyone have any suggestions for other saws that can cut my arm off?
    I have a dewalt and its ok, it does it's job. But it's kind of bulky. I have used a few makitas and have really liked them and that's what I will buy when the Dewalt dies. I can't believe it has lasted this long 9-10 years and we beat the thing. I've even use it to cut a few arm full of logs for the wood stove.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kubikeman View Post
    I can't make a straight cut on a 2x4 with a circular saw. It looks like I hacked it blindfolded with a steak knife.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kubikeman View Post
    Really? I was actually looking at a Craftsman and a Dewalt, never even thought of Hitachi. But the more I read, the better Hitachi looked. They actually offer a 5 year warranty. The big 'C' and 'D'... only 90 days.

    May I ask why it sucked?
    it took no time to need new brushes, and no matter how good or tight I made it it just wouldn't hold alignment. Eventually I gave up and left it for rough cut duty. When it stopped working I brought it in to my local tool repair guy who's a stand up guy I'v known for years, and he said it wasn't worth fixing, and he recommended not buying another.
    I gave up on Crapsman power tools along time ago, and it seems now their hand tools are getting crappy too.
    Warranty means nothing when you have to wait and are without the tool you need while in the middle of doing something, and even less when you just want to throw the whole thing in the garbage. Wouldn't buy another Hitachi unless is came with a lifetime 100% money back satisfaction guarantee.
    Rigid, Portacable, Makita, or Dewalt is what comes to mind and what I'd recommend as far as common, reasonably priced, well known, and widely available brands.
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    Hmmm. Looks like some consensus for Dewalt and Makita.

    I feel like I started one of those newb bike threads. What saw is right for me? It should cut really tiny things and monstrously huge things well. It should be light and I only have a budget of like $100.

    And what size blade? 8.5", 10" or 12"? I've heard 12" will cut anything and that 8.5" is practically dead. I'm thinking right in between with 10" is the way to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kubikeman View Post
    ...... I'm thinking right in between with 10" is the way to go.
    That's what she said (sorry, couldn't resist)

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    My Dad has the 12" DeWalt and I've used it a few times...it's a beast, and well made.

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    depending on how much room you have, this one GCM12SD 12" Dual-Bevel Glide Miter Saw | Bosch is good. It doesn't have the traditional sliders so you can put it up against a wall to save space.

    Other than that The Hitachi isn't bad. just make sure the saw that you get has a good heel cut ( the heel is back part of the blade casing). Some saws like that Hitachi can't cut 6" molding standing up because the heel Back of the blade housing is solid. The dewalt, the new Bosch, and millwaukee can cut 6" mouldings standing upright against the fence. This is due to the heel of the housing that is close to the fence is trimmed higher than the centre of the blade allowing a larger cut.
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    Yup--I use them for a living and have found the Makita and DeWalt the best.
    Bosch makes a nice unit, but it is a bit heavy. At least the last one I looked at.

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    I've got a DeWalt 12" compound that has held up rather well.A trim carpenter I often work with has a Makita sliding compound (not sure if it's a 10" or 12"),which I have used 1 or 2 times.He is a great carpenter, and I know he only buys the best tools.I think DeWalt and Makita are better than Hitachi.

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    I've run just about every major saw out there and like the Makitas the best. Just hands down the nicest to use, move, clean, change the blase ect. Spend you money once on the best saw you can afford then keep it clean. Every time I'm done for the day I clean my saws with a shop vac it only takes a few minutes but in the long run it will extend the life of the saw and keep it working smoothly.
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    If it's a toss-up between the Dewalt or Makita, I gotta say that rim tape holds much better on the Dewalt... Just sayin'...
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    Another note you want to look at is are you getting a mobile stand or building a bench for it?
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    The Milwaukee has a digital miter angle readout if you wanna be that slick

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    Quote Originally Posted by deke505 View Post
    Another note you want to look at is are you getting a mobile stand or building a bench for it?
    Definitely some kind of folding mobile bench. Laugh all you want, but we have an asthmatic cat and the fiancé wouldn't let me make dust in our basement. So I'll have to set this up outside whenever I go to use it.

    Now I'm trying to decide if the extra cutting width is worth it, or if a 12" non-sliding model is enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kubikeman View Post
    Definitely some kind of folding mobile bench. Laugh all you want, but we have an asthmatic cat and the fiancé wouldn't let me make dust in our basement. So I'll have to set this up outside whenever I go to use it.
    Then I would recommend something with good size wheels and is a gravity raised table like

    DWX726 Rolling Miter Saw Stand | DEWALT Tools

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    T4B Gravity-Rise Wheeled Miter Saw Stand | Bosch

    both are good

    I am using the dewalt one and find it 100% better than my old Hitachi one.

    Also don't worry about extra like digital read out or lasers, they will always have to adjusted to be accurate.

    I would go with the sliding just because it has more uses and being able to make a scoring cut first makes a cleaner cut.
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    dont get anything with some fandang laser guided thingamabob...that's for Dick the butcher home owner. , dont be a Dick.

    Learn to measure twice and cut once...

    If you cut it 3 times and it's still too short... get yourself a board stretcher and try again.
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    The DW715 is what I have had for going on something like 10 years or so.I have built everything from decks to furniture with it and have never had any problems.You can get by without the slider if you have other tools,or are planing on getting some.I think having a table saw is as important as a chop saw.I do alot of cuts using a crosscut sled on the table,or just use a circular saw sometimes.I've always wanted a stand,but have gotten by just fine without.

    *edit* I pretty sure mine is the DW705,I think it's just an older version of the DW715.

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    Definitely, chop saw, table saw and worm saw travel as a pack.
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    chop saw, table saw and worm saw travel as a pack.
    Add a Sawzall and a Cordless Drill motor and you'll be screwing up your house with the best of them !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishbucket View Post
    Add a Sawzall and a Cordless Drill motor and you'll be screwing up your house with the best of them !
    Have to leave my mark somehow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishbucket View Post
    Add a Sawzall and a Cordless Drill motor and you'll be screwing up your house with the best of them !
    Oh yeah, a sawzall is a must have, and for finish work a good hand saw instead.
    Also once I started using a small grinder, it just adds a whole nother possibility to the mix, and find it just as versatile as a sawsall. Mostly use a smooth or slotted diamond blade, but you can even find a wood blade shaped sorta like one side of a chainsaw blade. Can make a detailed totem pole in short order with that thing.
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    Festool Kapex KS120. Great saw. Makita, DeWalt, Hitachi don't come close. Milwaukee is okay.

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    My opinion is that the DeWalt functions better than any of the rest of them.

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    Unless you are cutting a lot of custom wainscoat or big crown molding, a Makita is plenty. Spend the money and get a very good fine cut lot of teeth carbide tipped blade if you cut a lot of hard wood, and feed slow. less chips.

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    Couple things:

    1) Learn to 'cope' the baseboards like a real man... none of this halfazz 45 deg. cuts in the corners. The 45 degree angle is for picture frames.

    2) Cut crown molding upside down.

    3) know where the water, gas, elec. shut off are. Keep the areas clear, you'll be rushing to them.

    4) always bring extra towels with you when doing sink p-trap/plumbing repairs.

    5) NEVER. hit two hammers together.

    6) hire a flooring guy, your knees and back will thank you.

    7) never look down the barrel of a Hilti gun.

    8) "Black" pipe is for Gas , "Galv" pipe is for water. ( replace the Galvy pipe with Copper)

    9) white Romex wire is not for Landscaping wire.

    10) Always.. ALWAYS ... get the bosses approval on Paint Color, she's going to change her mind anyway.... but it at least wont be your Fault.

    11) don' t get fancy and try to cut a circle on a tablesaw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishbucket View Post
    Couple things:

    1) Learn to 'cope' the baseboards like a real man... none of this halfazz 45 deg. cuts in the corners. The 45 degree angle is for picture frames.

    2) Cut crown molding upside down.

    3) know where the water, gas, elec. shut off are. Keep the areas clear, you'll be rushing to them.

    4) always bring extra towels with you when doing sink p-trap/plumbing repairs.

    5) NEVER. hit two hammers together.

    6) hire a flooring guy, your knees and back will thank you.

    7) never look down the barrel of a Hilti gun.

    8) "Black" pipe is for Gas , "Galv" pipe is for water. ( replace the Galvy pipe with Copper)

    9) white Romex wire is not for Landscaping wire.

    10) Always.. ALWAYS ... get the bosses approval on Paint Color, she's going to change her mind anyway.... but it at least wont be your Fault.

    11) don' t get fancy and try to cut a circle on a tablesaw.
    Rules to live by. Number 10 has already happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishbucket View Post
    Couple things:

    1) Learn to 'cope' the baseboards like a real man... none of this halfazz 45 deg. cuts in the corners. The 45 degree angle is for picture frames.

    2) Cut crown molding upside down.

    3) know where the water, gas, elec. shut off are. Keep the areas clear, you'll be rushing to them.

    4) always bring extra towels with you when doing sink p-trap/plumbing repairs.

    5) NEVER. hit two hammers together.

    6) hire a flooring guy, your knees and back will thank you.

    7) never look down the barrel of a Hilti gun.

    8) "Black" pipe is for Gas , "Galv" pipe is for water. ( replace the Galvy pipe with Copper)

    9) white Romex wire is not for Landscaping wire.

    10) Always.. ALWAYS ... get the bosses approval on Paint Color, she's going to change her mind anyway.... but it at least wont be your Fault.

    11) don' t get fancy and try to cut a circle on a tablesaw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deke505 View Post
    Wanna let daddy show you how!



    I don't recommend trying this until one is comfortable with the tools.
    Daddy is gonna lose a thumb or fingers doing that sh*t without a push stick.... I couldn't watch to the end. Dumber than dirt... use the right tool for the job.

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    Thanks for all the help everyone. I decided on a Dewalt DW717.

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    Amazon had it for a great price, plus Dewalt had a $25 coupon floating around and I had some amazon rewards points. All said and done, I got it for $364 shipped and I'll see it Friday.
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    Sliding Compound Miter Saw Suggestions?

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    That's a sexy ***** right there!
    Its all ****s and Giggles until somebody Giggles and ****s

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    Quote Originally Posted by deke505 View Post
    Wanna let daddy show you how.
    I've been around tools and wood 30+ yrs. I can do it.

    I was giving advice to the Home butchers...


    And Yes !, That's a right nice Chopsaw...
    now take off the 'dust' collector bag and throw it away. Learn to clean up your mess with a broom and shopvac... like a real man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishbucket View Post
    now take off the 'dust' collector bag and throw it away. Learn to clean up your mess with a broom and shopvac... like a real man.

    Why?
    Why do the extra work for clean up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishbucket View Post
    dont get anything with some fandang laser guided thingamabob...that's for Dick the butcher home owner. , dont be a Dick.

    Learn to measure twice and cut once...

    If you cut it 3 times and it's still too short... get yourself a board stretcher and try again.
    LOL. always measure twice cut once, bondo and repeat process

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewtality View Post
    That's a sexy ***** right there!
    20+ years using Dewalt!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewtality View Post
    Why?
    Why do the extra work for clean up?
    because it helps to clog things, fills in no time, and doesn't get all the dust anyways. Either hook the shop vac up to the saw where the bag's supposed to go, or leave it open.

    Nice purchase OP, you should have it for years.
    Round and round we go

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewtality View Post
    Why?
    Why do the extra work for clean up?
    3 cuts and that bag will be plugged and throwing dust and chips out the guard. The weave is too fine to allow enough air to transfer from the blade to the little 1 inch hole in the guard.
    Now if you can get the adapter from a 2" shopvac to that guard's fitting, you'll be on to something.

    Oh, and if you keep the bag on long enough to actually fill it, you'll be making all kinds of dust trying to shake it out for 2 hours. ... not to mention closing the zipper with all the dust and chips stuck in it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishbucket View Post
    I've been around tools and wood 30+ yrs. I can do it.

    I was giving advice to the Home butchers...


    And Yes !, That's a right nice Chopsaw...
    now take off the 'dust' collector bag and throw it away. Learn to clean up your mess with a broom and shopvac... like a real man.
    I think I forgot my smilies again

    And yes don't use the bag. either hook up the shop vac to the machine or just let it blow.
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    Sooo.. how many fingers are missing.? Pics are good, Video is even better.
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    I've had the DW705 for at least 15 years now. I've done all the baseboard, door and window trim in our 2500 sq. ft. house, including stool & apron trim under the windows that uses crown cuts for the apron.



    That DW717 sure looks sexy. I could have used the sliding function many times that I instead had to use a framing saw.

    Edit: Roller stands are really helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by random walk View Post
    I've had the DW705 for at least 15 years now. I've done all the baseboard, door and window trim in our 2500 sq. ft. house, including stool & apron trim under the windows that uses crown cuts for the apron.



    That DW717 sure looks sexy. I could have used the sliding function many times that I instead had to use a framing saw.

    Edit: Roller stands are really helpful.
    Nice work! I picked up this to hold the saw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kubikeman View Post
    Nice work! I picked up this to hold the saw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by random walk View Post
    I've had the DW705 for at least 15 years now. I've done all the baseboard, door and window trim in our 2500 sq. ft. house, including stool & apron trim under the windows that uses crown cuts for the apron.

    -snip pic-

    That DW717 sure looks sexy. I could have used the sliding function many times that I instead had to use a framing saw.

    Edit: Roller stands are really helpful.
    Eggsactly. I've had mine for about that long, and it's good as new. Many times I've wished I'd gotten the slider for wider/taller lumber, but if this one keeps going at the current rate, I'll never have the NEED to upgrade (doesn't mean I won't upgrade for WANT at some point ).
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