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    Bummer. I left my boat in a slip on Lake Powell with plans to go up for one last trip next week before the cold weather moved in and I bring it home to use local.

    Lake Powell is now shut down so all I can do is drive 4 hours each way to retrieve it. I'm disputing the slip fee on my credit card if not refunded.


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    Lake Powell entrances are now manned by Law Enforcement officers. Those with personal property (i.e. houseboat, trailer, etc.) may enter the park to access their property. You may come and go on the road ways but you cannot access the lake to enjoy Lake Powell. You may reside in your personal houseboat while on a buoy or in a slip but you cannot leave that location to go out on the lake. (I am unsure how one without a boat will get to his houseboat on a buoy.)

    If on the lake before government shut down you may continue to enjoy the lake. Here is the verbiage from NPS documents.

    "Overnight visitors will no longer be allowed to enter and those already here will be given 48 hours to make alternate arrangements and depart the park. Visitors in the back country, including remote areas on the lake, will be advised to leave but will allowed to complete their trip.

    All land and water based fueling operations will remain open for official use and returning guests. Businesses will be allowed to enter the park to retrieve their customers."

    Dangling rope is open to provide gas to those returning from an extended trip uplake.

    Ramps maintain the normal night time soft closure with cones blocking access at the top of the ramp. Those returning from a trip may move the cones to retrieve their boats.

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    You know that some people don't have jobs right now, right?

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    Yeah, shame on you for not shutting down your life because others are locked out of their jobs due to silly politics. And then you have the nerve to come to an off topic forum on a recreational activity site and ***** about it. What are you, some careless 1%er? Geez.

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    Wow .. tough crowd... I'll be in the corner flogging myself with a rubber chicken.

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    Sorry, forgot to hit the sarcasm key when I typed my response out.

    But go ahead and flog on, pics or it didn't happen.

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    People could DIE, people!!!!! This is no time for sarcasm or humour!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCtrailMonkey View Post
    Sorry, forgot to hit the sarcasm key when I typed my response out.

    But go ahead and flog on, pics or it didn't happen.

    Was not replying to you.. I saw your humor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    You know that some people don't have jobs right now, right?

    Yes, I realize this. What am I suppose to do about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo View Post
    What am I suppose to do about it?
    get out the rubber chicken and use it religiously that way no need to ask.
    plus+, plus+ = win:

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    You know that some people don't have jobs right now, right?
    are you gloating?

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    Shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by brianb View Post
    are you gloating?
    Yes. I'm super happy.

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    This thread has fun with sharp knives written all over it.

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    It's my tea party sponsored vacation.
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    Don't you realize that they shut the Panda Cam down and you are more concerned with your boat? PANDA CAM IS GONE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by OCtrailMonkey View Post
    Yeah, shame on you for not shutting down your life because others are locked out of their jobs due to silly politics. And then you have the nerve to come to an off topic forum on a recreational activity site and ***** about it. What are you, some careless 1%er? Geez.
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    I was trying to get a couple topo maps ( read: poach and print)
    For some pig hunting this fall, the dilly dang USGS is CLOSED !!

    This totally sucketh mightily
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    Shutdown

    Time to ride PCT, CDT, etc
    Its all ****s and Giggles until somebody Giggles and ****s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewtality View Post
    Time to ride PCT, CDT, etc
    Haha... If a MTBer rides the PCT but no rangers are around to witness it, did the MTBer really ride the PCT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishbucket View Post
    I was trying to get a couple topo maps ( read: poach and print)
    For some pig hunting this fall, the dilly dang USGS is CLOSED !!

    This totally sucketh mightily

    HAH! Just as I thought, The PIGS are behind it all!!!
    It's all Here. Now.

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    Damn the pigs!!!!


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    Shutdown

    So much pig hate. They make me bacon and chops. Mmmmm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewtality View Post
    Time to ride PCT, CDT, etc
    Just got back from riding the PCT. Told every hiker/horse rider I saw to F.O.

    It's good to be the King again...

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    My fishing spots are closed.. yet they still have 11 White House chefs on staff... Irony or idiocracy?
    "We can always find excuses if we want to find them, but if we really want to do something, we have to just go."

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    Someone slap Hawg in the hinny with some rep....

    I dont want to.. I dont know where his hinny has been.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sodak View Post
    My fishing spots are closed..
    Now that's a true tragedy and I do feel for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    Now that's a true tragedy and I do feel for you.
    It is sh*tty, but there are others in much worse shape. However, I am a part of HOW (Heroes on the Water) Appalachian chapter. We have a scheduled kayak bass fishing tourney this weekend with many wounded vets and that is going to be postponed until river access opens back up. I feel bad for the vets who are looking forward to this. We are trying to find a local who lives on the Potomac willing to let us access the water from their property. Hopefully we can work something out by Sunday.
    "We can always find excuses if we want to find them, but if we really want to do something, we have to just go."

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    Quote Originally Posted by sodak View Post
    It is sh*tty, but there are others in much worse shape. However, I am a part of HOW (Heroes on the Water) Appalachian chapter. We have a scheduled kayak bass fishing tourney this weekend with many wounded vets and that is going to be postponed until river access opens back up. I feel bad for the vets who are looking forward to this. We are trying to find a local who lives on the Potomac willing to let us access the water from their property. Hopefully we can work something out by Sunday.
    Fingers crossed

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    I always hope for a silver lining to every cloud. I'll keep you all posted on my findings.
    That's all for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    You know that some people don't have jobs right now, right?
    seriously?

    I mean, really?

    Some peoples' kids - I'll tell ya what
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Sorry to hear about your trip being postponed due to political squabbling. Hopefully things will get back to normal again soon.
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    Returned from PA yesterday, and stopped by Allegrippis to do the unmentionable. Saw very few boats out on Raystown Lake, rode Hydro Loop w/ Dale who drove there for a local bass tournament. Discovered Susquehannock c/g closed, and had NO idea the extended reach of this shutdown.
    (sodak - check on O.R.P. for a possible launch site)
    Without being politically biased, I noticed the below on bookface, and feel she says what all of us are thinking...


    THINK THIS LADY IS PISSED?

    Alan Simpson, the Senator from Wyoming calls senior citizens the Greediest Generation as he compared "Social Security " to a Milk Cow with 310 million teats. Here's a response in a letter from PATTY MYERS in Montana ... I think she is a little ticked off! She also tells it like it is!

    "Hey Alan, let's get a few things straight!!!
    1. As a career politician, you have been on the public dole (tit) for FIFTY YEARS.

    2. I have been paying Social Security taxes for 48 YEARS (since I was 15 years old. I am now 63).

    3. My Social Security payments, and those of millions of other Americans, were safely tucked away in an interest bearing account for decades until you political pukes decided to raid the account and give OUR money to a bunch of zero losers in return for votes, thus bankrupting the system and turning Social Security into a Ponzi scheme that would make Bernie Madoff proud.

    4. Recently, just like Lucy & Charlie Brown, you and "your ilk" pulled the proverbial football away from millions of American seniors nearing retirement and moved the goalposts for full retirement from age 65 to age, 67. NOW, you and your "shill commission" are proposing to move the goalposts YET AGAIN.

    5. I, and millions of other Americans, have been paying into Medicare from Day One, and now "you morons" propose to change the rules of the game. Why? Because "you idiots" mismanaged other parts of the economy to such an extent that you need to steal our money from Medicare to pay the bills.

    6. I, and millions of other Americans, have been paying income taxes our entire lives, and now you propose to increase our taxes yet again. Why? Because you "incompetent bastards" spent our money so profligately that you just kept on spending even after you ran out of money. Now, you come to the American taxpayers and say you need more to pay off YOUR debt.
    To add insult to injury, you label us "greedy" for calling "bull****" to your incompetence.

    Well, Captain Bull****, I have a few questions for YOU:

    1. How much money have you earned from the American taxpayers during your pathetic 50-year political career?

    2. At what age did you retire from your pathetic political career, and how much are you receiving in annual retirement benefits from the American taxpayers?

    3. How much do you pay for YOUR government provided health insurance?

    4. What cuts in YOUR retirement and healthcare benefits are you proposing in your disgusting deficit reduction proposal, or as usual, have you exempted yourself and your political cronies?

    It is you, Captain Bull****, and your political co-conspirators called Congress who are the "greedy" ones. It is you and your fellow nutcase thieves who have bankrupted America and stolen the American dream from millions of loyal, patriotic taxpayers.

    And for what? Votes and your job and retirement security at our expense, you lunk-headed, leech. That's right, sir. You and yours have bankrupted America for the sole purpose of advancing your pathetic, political careers. You know it, we know it, and you know that we know it. And you can take that to the bank, you miserable son of a *****.

    P.S. And stop calling Social Security benefits "entitlements". WHAT AN INSULT!!!!

    I have been paying in to the SS system for 45 years “It's my money”-give it back to me the way the system was designed and stop patting yourself on the back like you are being generous by doling out these monthly checks."

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    Politics and politicians make me sick. It's a big joke, they're the only ones laughing.

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    On a serious note, the situation is much worse than almost anyone understands. The system isn't broke because government has been spending too much money; in fact government expenditures as a % of GDP have barely increased at all over the decades. There's several reasons for the collapse we're seeing: 1) taxes to the ultra rich have progressively been lowered, 2) we have a debt-base monetary system whereby all money is created out of debt. This is by design an exponential system and requires perpetual exponential growth to function, in a finite world that cannot grow, 3) the US dollar has been the global reserve currency for 50 years which has enabled huge trade deficits to be maintained, and has resulted in a huge dependence on foreign oil, and has resulted in an unnatural shift of manufacturing over to China, 4) that reserve currency status is now coming to an end, 5) the US hit Peak Oil in 1971 and production has been going down ever since, with a few temporary upticks, but no significant advances have been made in alternative energy, 6) in order to mask these problems, interest rates have been dropped form 17% in 1982 to 0% today, and they cannot go any lower, 7) there are no longer any buyers of US government debt; almost all of it now comes from the Federal Reserve printing up monopoly money, 8) this is a recipe for an upcoming hyperinflation and destruction of the purchasing power of the US dollar.

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    EnTEATlements.

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    Why does the shutdown necessitate my local BLM website to default to the Depart of the Interior website? That's stupid!

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    You know that some people don't have jobs right now, right?
    That is a false statement... folks are on "furlough" until further notice. They still have jobs, just no work right now, and no paycheck. Anyone that works a government funded job or works union has to budget accordingly and prepare for the inevitable strike or shutdown.

    What year is the last year that Obama signed a budget produced by Congress, I ask?

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    This is why I didn't buy a season pass to Yellowstone National Park in Mid September... it would be worthless October 1st.

    I think all golf courses should be shut down... for the good of the country

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank N. Byke View Post
    I'd think that it would be the agency's responsibility to have contingencies in place,
    The Union could have had a written contract to not be furloughed or receive a lower percentage on their paycheck when this time came.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyonadyke View Post

    I think all golf courses should be shut down... for the good of the country
    NO !... who wants their assholy'O manager hanging around..using this month catchphrase.... not I.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank N. Byke View Post
    Some peoples kids are without formula....

    Almost a million people (only 25% of our government) were/are instantly without jobs. That's a damn powerful decision.
    Really?!?!
    You need to stop listening to the scaremongering and hand-wringing in the media. Nobody is out of a job because of the shutdown. They are on furloughs.
    They will be paid in full when the government opens back up.
    Anybody working for the federal government should be prepared for these situations. They happen often enough.
    Its all ****s and Giggles until somebody Giggles and ****s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyonadyke View Post
    What year is the last year that Obama signed a budget produced by Congress, I ask?
    It's a bit on the complicated side, but I don't think Congress has even passed a budget since 2009. The budget has become a political tactic:

    PolitiFact | Romney says Obama failed to pass a budget

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    Yeah, I'm furloughed. Wondering how to make ends meet. Guess I can always move back into Mom's basement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewtality View Post
    They will be paid in full when the government opens back up.
    It didn't just lay off civil servants, who for all I know get back pay, but contractors, no. I was lucky to have 80 hrs of accrued PTO, if you can call never having the ability to take time off lucky. I sure as heck won't be getting any of that money for nothing you're hinting at there.

    We were prohibited from using government assets as of noon on the first day, and authorization to bill against our contract was revoked. If I don't charge time, I don't get paid. Pretty simple really and don't see why it would be any other way for anyone else. Except for elected officials of course, because they're SPECIAL.
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    How has our right to vote become our right to pick which of two aceholes gets to blow our dough and put debt on our heads?

    Hard to believe the whole thing goes to pot and threatens the world economy when they can't borrow more money, less than 6 months after April 15.

    Why not get rid of all of them and let the folks who fund the show vote on the laws? Shut it down and send em home, put that on the ballot.

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    Legalize it! That'll get money pumping through our system...

    *Ducks and runs for cover*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyonadyke View Post
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    I think all golf courses should be shut down... for the good of the country
    I played 36 holes today. I guess I am bad for the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCtrailMonkey View Post
    Legalize it! That'll get money pumping through our system...

    *Ducks and runs for cover*
    No need to run... That is something I have been saying for a long time now. But, this solution makes sense.. something that is lacking in our gov't. TO them that's "crazy talk".
    "We can always find excuses if we want to find them, but if we really want to do something, we have to just go."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo View Post
    I played 36 holes today. I guess I am bad for the country.
    Quit flaunting your 1%~~!!!
    "We can always find excuses if we want to find them, but if we really want to do something, we have to just go."

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    Quote Originally Posted by sodak View Post
    No need to run... That is something I have been saying for a long time now. But, this solution makes sense.. something that is lacking in our gov't. TO them that's "crazy talk".
    Would certainly pare down the debt in a hurry. We'll see how much it does for WA and CO budgets. If the money rolls in as expected, the rest of the country won't be far behind.
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