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    Should Rep have the name attached?

    OK, not for being D-bags, but to have a real discussion here..

    Should MTBR have your name/handle attached to Rep when you give it to prevent people using other peoples name... ?
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    As one of the (probably many) victims of anonymous trolling neg rep, I vote a resounding "YES!"

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    Ok, i voted yes. But here is my actual opinion on the subject.

    IMO if your not an arse then the +rep received usually outweights your -rep. Thus the only reason why one would care for a neg rep to be signed is to retaliate. Without the anonymity (spelling?) anyone who gets -repped will probably -rep back the person that gave it to them. This is a good thing for people being A$$hats, and leaving neg rep for no good reason, but a bad thing if a person deserves neg rep, and the person giving it to them wants to remain unknown. Man that was a long way of saying that.


    I don't leave much neg rep, and the few times i have i think i have signed it.

    The only reason why i think it should be autosigned is the posers signing other peoples names, and also to discourage the sissy neg repping that i have seen lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guerdonian View Post
    Ok, i voted yes. But here is my actual opinion on the subject.

    IMO if your not an arse then the +rep received usually outweights your -rep. Thus the only reason why one would care for a neg rep to be signed is to retaliate. Without the anonymity (spelling?) anyone who gets -repped will probably -rep back the person that gave it to them. This is a good thing for people being A$$hats, and leaving neg rep for no good reason, but a bad thing if a person deserves neg rep, and the person giving it to them wants to remain unknown. Man that was a long way of saying that.


    I don't leave much neg rep, and the few times i have i think i have signed it.

    The only reason why i think it should be autosigned is the posers signing other peoples names, and also to discourage the sissy neg repping that i have seen lately.
    I agree 100% with everything you said.. but the last line is the reason I started this, to see if we can stop the poser(s) who use others name
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    Quote Originally Posted by thomllama View Post
    I agree 100% with everything you said.. but the last line is the reason I started this, to see if we can stop the poser(s) who use others name
    assume the signed name is a fake - easy peasy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUM View Post
    assume the signed name is a fake - easy peasy.
    ya,.. true.. but again.. we're dealing with thousands of people here, and let's say I give someone new-ish bad rep, and sign your name they are going to not only -rep you but also probably start sending harassing PM's and/or start a feud in the thread... just easier and less work for Mods if the name was attached right?
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    Voted no.

    I'm curious as to what people want the names for, if not to retaliate. Even if someone neg reps you and signs it as someone else, if you're not going to neg rep them back then who cares?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomllama View Post
    ya,.. true.. but again.. we're dealing with thousands of people here, and let's say I give someone new-ish bad rep, and sign your name they are going to not only -rep you but also probably start sending harassing PM's and/or start a feud in the thread... just easier and less work for Mods if the name was attached right?
    no....it would be a giant mess of retaliatory butt-hurt poo-fling whining...

    I would lose my marbles and go on a lipstick sporting, pantyhose wearing ban-spree until i was taken out by an admin (or rockcrusher)....
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUM View Post
    I would lose my marbles and go on a lipstick sporting, pantyhose wearing ban-spree until i was taken out by an admin (or rockcrusher)....

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    Most of the people seem to be doin alright as far as rep goes (unless your name is david copperfield) right?



    And could my vote be changed from no to I don't care please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cerebroside View Post
    Voted no.

    I'm curious as to what people want the names for, if not to retaliate. Even if someone neg reps you and signs it as someone else, if you're not going to neg rep them back then who cares?
    because down the road, if someone honest gives you advice, but you ignore it because you THINK they gave you a neg rep, or if you need advice, and they have good advice to give but don't because they think you gave them a neg rep...

    basically it comes down to ,.. should people be held responsible for their actions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thomllama View Post
    because down the road, if someone honest gives you advice, but you ignore it because you THINK they gave you a neg rep, or if you need advice, and they have good advice to give but don't because they think you gave them a neg rep...

    basically it comes down to ,.. should people be held responsible for their actions?



    Its the interweb, no one is responsible for anything. Just sayin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marpilli View Post
    crap...forgot the winkie...

    so here ya go
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    IMHO, anonymous rep encourages trolling. It's the same principle as the dislike button on YouTube. Someone can come along and hit that button just for shts 'n giggles. It happens all the time on YouTube.

    Here on MTBR, I have received anonymous trolling neg rep with ridiculous comments, such as the "pale legs for a California girl" comment I got with my first anonymous neg rep. Why did I get that comment, you ask? Because I posted a picture I took with flash of a mtb crash wound on my leg. Anyone who's ever used a camera knows that flash makes skin look lighter.

    The second time I received anonymous neg rep claiming that I was "no match" for a certain video poster. I got that rep because I dared to post one of my ride videos in the "Videos and POV Cameras" subforum. I never criticized anyone else's videos. I just stated that all my videos have natural sound with no music added.

    Unfortunately I don't have a link to provide, as that poster was banned (thankfully!) and all his posts were deleted.

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    Can I sell my rep? Auction it off for charity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUM View Post
    no....it would be a giant mess of retaliatory butt-hurt poo-fling whining...

    I would lose my marbles and go on a lipstick sporting, pantyhose wearing ban-spree until i was taken out by an admin (or rockcrusher)....
    OHH NOOOOO






    Oh wait, this one's better!!!!




    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUM View Post
    you really do have pale legs....

    sexy too...




    * i just threw up a little *


    I know it wasn't you who gave me that rep. They didn't have enough rep power to make a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomllama View Post
    OHH NOOOOO






    Oh wait, this one's better!!!!

    [imghttp://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/32500/Transgender-Mr-Bean--32788.jpg[/img]


    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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    I post on RBR too, which is a sister site of MTBR. Your username is attached to your rep there, and the only time I ever received negative rep on RBR was when there was a misunderstanding over an old thread I started and the whole thread got taken out of context. You actually had to earn negative rep over there. Here, you don't even have to p!ss someone off to get it. You can be the nicest person in the world and you still get dinged, due to the anonymous nature of the rep and the trolls that come and go.

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    We the people ...

    Quote Originally Posted by freighttrainuphill View Post
    You can be the nicest person in the world and you still get dinged, due to the anonymous nature of the rep and the trolls that come and go.
    True, trolls can give you an occasional negative rep.. but most dont have much to give, and they can only hit you again after hitting 100 other people.. Most trolls dont have the attention span to go back and hit you again.

    If you give good advice on here, you really dont have to worry about the occasional bad rep, and the green you get will far outweigh the red.

    The problem I see with handles being attached to rep is... some people on here, while they may have a lot of green cause they average 15 posts a day.... they truly dont have much substance to their posts. Then they can retaliate for the sole sake of revenge after getting red, even though they post false information in technical threads.

    Yes, anonymous reps open the opportunity for anonymous names being attached, you just have to simply ignore the name and believe it to be false.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUM View Post
    more like:
    baahaHAAHAAhhaahaa

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLMike View Post
    True, trolls can give you an occasional negative rep.. but most dont have much to give, and they can only hit you again after hitting 100 other people.. Most trolls dont have the attention span to go back and hit you again.

    If you give good advice on here, you really dont have to worry about the occasional bad rep, and the green you get will far outweigh the red.

    The problem I see with handles being attached to rep is... some people on here, while they may have a lot of green cause they average 15 posts a day.... they truly dont have much substance to their posts. Then they can retaliate for the sole sake of revenge after getting red, even though they post false information in technical threads.

    Yes, anonymous reps open the opportunity for anonymous names being attached, you just have to simply ignore the name and believe it to be false.
    I agree with everything you're saying. You're right, so far the trolls that have hit me and other posters have had very low rep power.

    Thomllama brings up a good point though in post #6. There have been several recent incidents where a troll signed someone else's name to negative rep. Luckily the mods caught it right away and no fights happened, AFAIK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freighttrainuphill View Post
    I agree with everything you're saying. You're right, so far the trolls that have hit me and other posters have had very low rep power.

    Thomllama brings up a good point though in post #6. There have been several recent incidents where a troll signed someone else's name to negative rep. Luckily the mods caught it right away and no fights happened, AFAIK.
    I dont see why a "fight" would happen.. If someone signed their own name to a rep, im sure a private message to them to confirm wouldnt be an issue.. after all, if they signed their name, why would they then deny they did it?

    If you PM'd someone and they denied it, then it would be obvious it was fake...

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    FLMike speaks the truth...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLMike View Post
    I dont see why a "fight" would happen.. If someone signed their own name to a rep, im sure a private message to them to confirm wouldnt be an issue.. after all, if they signed their name, why would they then deny they did it?

    If you PM'd someone and they denied it, then it would be obvious it was fake...
    True, but all this could be avoided if usernames were attached to rep.

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    I started a thread in the Pennsylvania fourm talking about "Ticks"
    we were on the topic of Deet products, someone gave me neg rep with this in the cmts
    "Deet!" I just dont get it. If you were a man (or woman) you would post your name. why?
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    The way I see it, if you had it in for someone
    you could neg rep a lot of people and sign that
    persons name. Then watch the fireworks while
    they take the heat. If you post neg (which I don't)
    you should be held for it.

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    Attaching names to negative rep just encourages retaliatory negative rep. Nothing positive can come from it. If you're so concerned about a negative rep you got, call it out in that thread. So many people keep saying "man up" and yet they're the ones advocating forcing the system to change around their inability to handle criticism or idiots. Yeah, trolls giving out negative rep bothers me a bit but if I were concerned with how many little green squares are under my name then I would at least tone down the level of a-hole I am on the board.

    I've tried calling out people who left me inane negative reps in threads and it is always met with crickets and tumbleweed. Let it go and move on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guerdonian View Post
    Ok, i voted yes. But here is my actual opinion on the subject.

    IMO if your not an arse then the +rep received usually outweights your -rep. Thus the only reason why one would care for a neg rep to be signed is to retaliate. Without the anonymity (spelling?) anyone who gets -repped will probably -rep back the person that gave it to them. This is a good thing for people being A$$hats, and leaving neg rep for no good reason, but a bad thing if a person deserves neg rep, and the person giving it to them wants to remain unknown. Man that was a long way of saying that.


    I don't leave much neg rep, and the few times i have i think i have signed it.

    The only reason why i think it should be autosigned is the posers signing other peoples names, and also to discourage the sissy neg repping that i have seen lately.


    Also agree with this 100%.
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    I voted yes, but ultimatly I really think I dont care...

    I called them out anyway...

    http://forums.mtbr.com/general-discu...ml#post9160214

    I'm sure whoever wont step up...(whatever shrugs)

    Funny though...someone actually agreed w/ me (same thread #9)

    As for those who dont agree...WHATEVER!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zebrahum View Post
    Attaching names to negative rep just encourages retaliatory negative rep. Nothing positive can come from it. If you're so concerned about a negative rep you got, call it out in that thread. ..................
    I don't give a crap about Neg rep.. i care that the trolls are signing other's names to them to cause issues between two normally friendly people.

    Why would there be an issue with having your name next to a Neg? the only thing it's going to do is keep people from posting crap because they will be held responsible for their comments. Then the fighting can be in PM's or what ever instead of in a otherwise positive and informative thread. I just can't see why anyone honest would need to hide..?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thomllama View Post
    I just can't see why anyone honest would need to hide..?
    Yeah, confused here too...
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    I stopped looking at my rep. Why ruin my day with anonymous d-bags with nothing better to do than spread negativity? Unfortunately, I have no idea who is giving me positive rep because I don't want to read my negative rep.

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    Here's a radical idea that many may not agree with. How about removing the neg rep feature entirely?

    I used to post on a law enforcement forum years ago that had the rep feature. I never got neg rep because I watched my p's and q's like you wouldn't believe. I even ended up with a full stick of green. But I witnessed a lot of bullying of new posters who asked questions in their "Ask a Cop" section. Many of these posters ended up with red rep, even full sticks of red.

    That forum attached usernames to rep, but it always boiled down to cops vs. citizens. Like in real life, it's your word against theirs.

    Eventually things got so out of hand that they disabled neg rep entirely. You could only give positive rep. IMHO, that's the way it should be. If you disagree with someone, then say something in the thread with the post you disagree with. Don't just hit a button. Give constructive criticism when necessary, use the "report post" feature to report obvious troll posts, and call out people who are trying to stir the pot. Be civil about it though.

    Vimeo.com and contour.com only have "like" buttons on videos. Vimeo even states that their site is "respectful". Guess what? I don't see the fighting and childish insults being slung back and forth on those two sites like I do on YouTube, which is a bastion of stupidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freighttrainuphill View Post
    Here's a radical idea that many may not agree with. How about removing the neg rep feature entirely?

    I used to post on a law enforcement forum years ago that had the rep feature. I never got neg rep because I watched my p's and q's like you wouldn't believe. I even ended up with a full stick of green. But I witnessed a lot of bullying of new posters who asked questions in their "Ask a Cop" section. Many of these posters ended up with red rep, even full sticks of red.

    That forum attached usernames to rep, but it always boiled down to cops vs. citizens. Like in real life, it's your word against theirs.

    Eventually things got so out of hand that they disabled neg rep entirely. You could only give positive rep. IMHO, that's the way it should be. If you disagree with someone, then say something in the thread with the post you disagree with. Don't just hit a button. Give constructive criticism when necessary, use the "report post" feature to report obvious troll posts, and call out people who are trying to stir the pot. Be civil about it though.

    Vimeo.com and contour.com only have "like" buttons on videos. Vimeo even states that their site is "respectful". Guess what? I don't see the fighting and childish insults being slung back and forth on those two sites like I do on YouTube, which is a bastion of stupidity.
    best idea yet.... stops the trolls as they have no bridge to hide under
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    Quote Originally Posted by freighttrainuphill View Post
    Here's a radical idea that many may not agree with. How about removing the neg rep feature entirely?

    ...
    This is probably the best way to resolve things, I doubt people care so much about giving neg rep as to complain if it was disabled.

    If people are giving out incorrect information (or whatever else) then correcting them in the thread is a lot more constructive.

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    Just pos. rep ? Just scrap the whole thing. This starting to sound like there are no winners or losers and everyone gets a trophy. Sorry, but if you can't take a bit of adversity I'm sure there are other forums that always play nice. My two cents.

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    Has anybody has gotten a signed (-) rep from a long term, high chicklet member?
    Anyone? Except for one ego-centric nutjob, all (-) rep I've gotten has been from low rated noob's, and the (+) reps received far outweigh their real impact.

    The anonymous azzhats are certainly annoying, yet have no sting. If they sign another's name they will be discovered by sending a PM to the Mods, and will rapidly be banned. (* check LW & DB).

    Do agree that all should be held accountable, yet why start a pissing war, when all can be avoided by posting to the active thread. Isn't this the whole idea of an " open forum"? If anyone thinks I'm being a d-bag, am totally wrong, or full of shiite - call me out on the forum, I can take it, plus it's far more entertaining than sniping somebody with an unsigned comment.

    See far too much potential for pooh-flinging and packing perma grudges.
    Please, take it off the hook, and go hit the dirt!

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    voted yes. let the mayhem begin. GBB
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    "for being in a rep whore thread" because of InterNetChiken$hits like this. GBB
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    man, look at all the rep in the this thread. Nary a 1 or 3 chicklet in the bunch. Once you pop over the 5 chicklet range rep really doesn't matter. Obviously you have made contributions, obviously most people have agreed and obviously you will have some detractors.

    It ain't high school, rep isn't the head cheerleader asking you out or the football captain, nor is negative rep getting pants in student assembly. It just isn't worth the effort everyone puts into it.

    I rep people when I really like something, it saves me from a stupid post like "Aw man that is awesome!" instead the user gets a little private message from me and everyone else doesn't need to read it. If I get negative rep I get negative rep. If you sign it makes me feel warm inside, if you don't I don't care.

    It just doesn't matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by giantbikeboy View Post
    "for being in a rep whore thread" because of InterNetChiken$hits like this. GBB
    which post did you get this rep from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLMike View Post
    True, trolls can give you an occasional negative rep.. but most dont have much to give, and they can only hit you again after hitting 100 other people.. Most trolls dont have the attention span to go back and hit you again.

    If you give good advice on here, you really dont have to worry about the occasional bad rep, and the green you get will far outweigh the red.

    The problem I see with handles being attached to rep is... some people on here, while they may have a lot of green cause they average 15 posts a day.... they truly dont have much substance to their posts. Then they can retaliate for the sole sake of revenge after getting red, even though they post false information in technical threads.

    Yes, anonymous reps open the opportunity for anonymous names being attached, you just have to simply ignore the name and believe it to be false.

    very well put.

    what sucks is if someone like me gets a neg rep from somebody with a lot of chiclets, its gonna hurt me quite a bit (and I'm a freaking jewel in the rough)

    I would like to think that if i negged somebody for something legit and left my sig they wouldnt retaliate, but i'm willing to bet they would. people dont like to be disagreed with.
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    I will admit that I call people out on a thread, especially
    if they are smacking around someone new. Sure we can all HTFU,
    but it sure puts the forum in my opinion in a bad light when some newb
    comes on with a silly question or comment that to them is important, and they
    get bull-rushed by the"Experienced" forum members.Had that happen to me with
    almost my first post, cause I have an Airborne. I have yet to give a neg rep, and won't,
    but I will find out why an opinion that someone has is B.S., if it doesn't agree with the majority.
    Frankly, I voted wrong, just get rid of the whole rep system, and if your helpful and decent to
    others, it will show without the green stick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texasnavy05 View Post
    very well put.

    what sucks is if someone like me gets a neg rep from somebody with a lot of chiclets, its gonna hurt me quite a bit (and I'm a freaking jewel in the rough)

    I would like to think that if i negged somebody for something legit and left my sig they wouldnt retaliate, but i'm willing to bet they would. people dont like to be disagreed with.
    Have you actually gotten (-) rep from someone packing lots O' chicklets?
    Or is this a rhetorical ?

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    You forgot the most important option on your poll:

    "Remove the rep thing from this website!"

    ...therefore, I cannot vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flyin_W View Post
    Have you actually gotten (-) rep from someone packing lots O' chicklets?
    Or is this a rhetorical ?
    No, I havent. Those guys are typically more patient than most.

    Picture this: three people around a campfire roasting marshmallows and doing the camping thing. Somebody starts telling ghosts stories. You start getting kinda scared and then you think you hear something walking behind you. Then you notice the shadow of a big chic'o'stik coming from over your shoulder.

    Next thing you know, the token guy is dead and its just you and the ditzy blonde trying to outrun the chic'o'stik.
    -It's time to shred some mild to moderate gnar!!

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    TN05,
    Yes, I can picture it, and it's all good - if you're faster than the blonde.
    Seems that few, if any have gotten (-) rep from a Chicklet Hoarder, so unless telling ghost stories, please don't scream before you've been hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guerdonian View Post
    Ok, i voted yes. But here is my actual opinion on the subject.

    IMO if your not an arse then the +rep received usually outweights your -rep. Thus the only reason why one would care for a neg rep to be signed is to retaliate. Without the anonymity (spelling?) anyone who gets -repped will probably -rep back the person that gave it to them. This is a good thing for people being A$$hats, and leaving neg rep for no good reason, but a bad thing if a person deserves neg rep, and the person giving it to them wants to remain unknown. Man that was a long way of saying that.


    I don't leave much neg rep, and the few times i have i think i have signed it.

    The only reason why i think it should be autosigned is the posers signing other peoples names, and also to discourage the sissy neg repping that i have seen lately.
    yup, this.

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    They need to do away with the rep power completely.
    Let status be for how many posts like some other boards and the more posts you have a different status under your name appears.
    That would eliminate a lot of the childish rep games that go on.

    I voted yes by the way at least then half the crap would end.No more anonymous pot shots.

    I only have 2 chiclets and I piped in...lol
    Last edited by roblee; 04-05-2012 at 09:54 PM.

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