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    Politics Poll

    Should political threads stay or be immediately binned and the OP get a vacation?

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    Depends on the thread. The Shutdown thread managed to allow a lot of divergent views to be aired without turning into a flame war. The powers that be did well to let it run.

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    Ban 'em all! Burn the witches!!!
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    I actually sent a PM to CHUM on this exact matter. Waiting for the response.... CHUM, paging CHUM....

    Look, we an official "bike thread" in OC, right? If the members can behave themselves, maybe there should be an official "politics thread" where anything political is kept/said/preached/discussed there and there only. If members can't behave themselves, then axe 'em. Isn't that the general rule already? Why not just do this, since politics are clearly going to pop up here again and again here like they always have.

    I can say that I wouldn't be involved much with it because I hate the subject myself but I would probably lurk to get in some good laughs and chuckles from the silliness that would undoubtedly go on in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    I actually sent a PM to CHUM on this exact matter. Waiting for the response.... CHUM, paging CHUM....
    CHUM explained why in the thread...

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    OOPS!!!!

    I closed this thread due to the political gobbledyguck and just discovered a 'high ranking official' says it's cool to be open...

    so...ummm...my bad.

    carry on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty $anchez View Post
    Should political threads stay or be immediately binned and the OP get a vacation?
    Add a third option to the poll:

    *Have one official politics thread only

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuffink View Post
    CHUM explained why in the thread...


    Shutdown



    I'll offer the now locked thread as a counterweight:

    What would you like to see in USA government

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    As long as it has female Indian Escorts and cheap kitchens I'm all for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norton55 View Post
    As long as it has female Indian Escorts and cheap kitchens I'm all for it.
    Are we talking American Indian Escorts or India Indian Escorts? Because, it does matter...

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    As long as as it is well behaved and confined to one thread then let it stay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    I actually sent a PM to CHUM on this exact matter. Waiting for the response.... CHUM, paging CHUM....

    Look, we an official "bike thread" in OC, right? If the members can behave themselves, maybe there should be an official "politics thread" where anything political is kept/said/preached/discussed there and there only. If members can't behave themselves, then axe 'em. Isn't that the general rule already? Why not just do this, since politics are clearly going to pop up here again and again here like they always have.

    I can say that I wouldn't be involved much with it because I hate the subject myself but I would probably lurk to get in some good laughs and chuckles from the silliness that would undoubtedly go on in there.
    I could not have said it better myself, well said Hawg!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    Are we talking American Indian Escorts or India Indian Escorts? Because, it does matter...
    I didn't say Native Americans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norton55 View Post
    I didn't say Native Americans.
    Technically, there are "Native Indians" on every continent except for Antarctica.

    So, which one is it???

    I'm trying to get a straight answer here so that I can "Yay" or "Nay" your idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    Technically, there are "Native Indians" on every continent except for Antarctica.

    So, which one is it???

    I'm trying to get a straight answer here so that I can "Yay" or "Nay" your idea.
    Does the Indian Subcontinent narrow it down?

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    Quote Originally Posted by norton55 View Post
    Does the Indian Subcontinent narrow it down?
    No, can you be a little more specific please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockerc View Post
    Ban 'em all! Burn the witches!!!
    But how can we tell if it's a witch?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bro View Post
    But how can we tell if it's a witch?



    Drown them. If they live their a witch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    I actually sent a PM to CHUM on this exact matter. Waiting for the response.... CHUM, paging CHUM....

    Look, we an official "bike thread" in OC, right? If the members can behave themselves, maybe there should be an official "politics thread" where anything political is kept/said/preached/discussed there and there only. If members can't behave themselves, then axe 'em. Isn't that the general rule already? Why not just do this, since politics are clearly going to pop up here again and again here like they always have.

    I can say that I wouldn't be involved much with it because I hate the subject myself but I would probably lurk to get in some good laughs and chuckles from the silliness that would undoubtedly go on in there.
    Everything that Hawg said here I completely agree on. All the way up to I would probably just lurk there because I hate the ssubject.
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    Politics Poll

    I hate them too.

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    I spent a lot of time in that "Shutdown" thread, and I say bin them. For a time, I tried my best to steer all threads off politics, but they just keep/kept showing up. No amount of OC member policing will stop them. It's rare that a political thread pops up and remains civil, but even when one does, I'd just as soon folks take political talk to political websites. Myself included.

    My only argument for them would be certain topics like the "Shutdown" thread are basically water-cooler topics that are being talked about across the country. But I don't think the mods should pick and choose, so bin.

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    I remember back when eMpTyBeeR banned the politics before........that's when I got re-cycled!
    The only problem that I have with 'political' type discussions here is that it has a tendency to bring out the glaring degree of semi-literate dum-dum talking points that I see already on the bumpers of El Caminos all over town.
    The Ad-Hominem stuff doesn't bother me in the least.

    In other words, your'e either truly 'off-camber', or yer a 'Poser'!

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    Send them all to the bin. The same thing should happen regardless of the forum they popup --whether it be the OC, general discussion, or Washington.
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    Seriously. BIN BIN BIN!

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    I think the mods are keeping the Shutdown thing going cos they're in league with the feds... collecting intel on all of us... not a lot to glean I fear...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockerc View Post
    I think the mods are keeping the Shutdown thing going cos they're in league with the feds... collecting intel on all of us... not a lot to glean I fear...
    ignore the clicking you hear on your line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    ignore the clicking you hear on your line.
    Dang! I thought that was just the old knee injury playing up in this cold weather up where I am...
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    There are things I don't need to know about you, and that you don't need to know about me. Political inclinations are near the top of that list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    Technically, there are "Native Indians" on every continent except for Antarctica.

    So, which one is it???
    When talking about Indians, you have to ask "Curry or casinos?" Or "Dots or feathers?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    Ibis sux!
    WATCH that kinda talk, Rideit!

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    I'm a right provocateur!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    I'm a right provocateur!
    Ok, ok.....


    Chumba Sux.


    Izzat better?
    Much. Also, feel free to malign Ellsworths....I have two of them, and everybody else likes to kick me over them. I dunno anybody that even has a Chumba. Are they still in business?

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    While I agree that the disclaimer below the OC excludes politics and religion, I don't feel personally that censorship or trashin' a thread is the answer to the potential problem of insult tossin' between members because they can't both be part of the same thread which either does or does not agree with their personal views. Common ground is the answer and we can't get there unless there is discussion. Granted, no one wants to be insulted for their beliefs but everyone should be willing to be challenged to reaffirm their beliefs and have a civil discussion about it. Perhaps I'm idealistic, perhaps this isn't the place (like the dinner table), but if we can't talk about it everywhere then we really can't talk about it anywhere. I remember being part of a thread where 2 individuals were put on a time out because of the insulting nature and personal attacking of their postings towards one another. What's wrong with that? Isn't that what the moderators are supposed to do? I am for discussion, if we don't believe in the same thing fine, but we are citizens of the same country and I will respect your belief even if I do not share it and I expect the same.
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    What I really think is: bikes have a way of uniting people of all backgrounds - whether you are rich or poor; no matter what your race, religion or national origin is. Politics does exactly the opposite. It has no place here. But. Somebody disagrees with me so let's argue some more about dum stuff that gets us nowhere and changes nobody's minds.

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    I just got from my ride and the political thread turned political. I'm off to the ride thread now for clarity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heyyall View Post
    I just got from my ride and the political thread turned political. I'm off to the ride thread now for clarity.
    Quit talking about divisive subjects like riding mtn bikes in our political thread!
    Its all Shits and Giggles until somebody Giggles and Shits

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    depends on the troll, if its bro give him the hammer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewtality View Post
    Quit talking about divisive subjects like riding mtn bikes in our political thread!
    I was actually biking on a... wait for it ... r o a d bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slow Danger View Post
    I spent a lot of time in that "Shutdown" thread, and I say bin them. For a time, I tried my best to steer all threads off politics, but they just keep/kept showing up. No amount of OC member policing will stop them. It's rare that a political thread pops up and remains civil, but even when one does, I'd just as soon folks take political talk to political websites. Myself included.

    My only argument for them would be certain topics like the "Shutdown" thread are basically water-cooler topics that are being talked about across the country. But I don't think the mods should pick and choose, so bin.
    bingo.

    There have been other high level/current topics that have been allowed like the Boston bomber and that cop who went rogue.

    generally creating a political/religious thread for the sake of arguing online will get binned and possibly the OP in hot water. There are a plethora of other sites catered to those subjects out there on the nterwebz.

    Also, speaking for myself only, I am a total bastid when it comes to political/religious crap on MTBR and shut them down on sight...others (who have more juice than I) request they stay open, or simply re-open themselves (does not bother me FYI)


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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    What I really think is: bikes have a way of uniting people of all backgrounds - whether you are rich or poor; no matter what your race, religion or national origin is. Politics does exactly the opposite. It has no place here. But. Somebody disagrees with me so let's argue some more about dum stuff that gets us nowhere and changes nobody's minds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by b-kul View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by heyyall View Post
    I was actually biking on a... wait for it ... r o a d bike.
    GTFO you fawking traitor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    Add a third option to the poll:

    *Have one official politics thread only
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    I'm honestly not sure the OP should get a vacation, but, the thread should go in the bin. I've been a participant in a few, but generally try to keep my own opinions to myself.

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    What about a firing squad? I don't see the option for that? Poor High'Dell. RIP, buddy!

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    The poll looks like it's going to be close. Maybe we should demonstrate true bipartisan compromise and allow the single politics thread like Hawg suggested. Who wants to start the thread and serve as de facto moderator?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slow Danger View Post
    The poll looks like it's going to be close. Maybe we should demonstrate true bipartisan compromise and allow the single politics thread like Hawg suggested. Who wants to start the thread and serve de facto moderator?
    you think this is a democracy?





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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUM View Post
    you think this is a democracy?





    * but seriously....there will be no ongoing Political thread. It just invites the ornery in everyone at some point...and then all us Mods gotta deal with continual butthurt-whining...
    My post was meant to drip with sarcasm. If we did start one, we could call it "Chum's Politics Thread". What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    What I really think is: bikes have a way of uniting people of all backgrounds - whether you are rich or poor; no matter what your race, religion or national origin is. Politics does exactly the opposite. It has no place here. But. Somebody disagrees with me so let's argue some more about dum stuff that gets us nowhere and changes nobody's minds.
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    Seems like most threads are political in some sense of the word. How many people would post if they were sure it wouldn't influence anyone in any manner?

    I say bin them all. It will make every thread seem more exciting to know the end is coming.

    Perhaps we should ban everything too, while we're at it. We can do that, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAOS1 View Post
    the OC has too many rules


    The OC has three rules, no politics, no religion and one thread for bike stuff. I'd just loike to know why the two faced admin. selectively allows political threads and want the users to weigh in on what they think the proper course of action is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty $anchez View Post
    The OC has three rules, no politics, no religion and one thread for bike stuff. I'd just loike to know why the two faced admin. selectively allows political threads and want the users to weigh in on what they think the proper course of action is.
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    So we can post some tit pics then?

    So are we going to start that again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by norton55 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by TAOS1 View Post
    So we can post some tit pics then?

    Yep, I'll go first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUM View Post
    * but seriously....there will be no ongoing Political thread. It just invites the ornery in everyone at some point...and then all us Mods gotta deal with continual butthurt-whining...
    Oh c'mon, don't you guys already do that? We can't even poke people with sticks in the Nascar thread without getting those deleted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty $anchez View Post
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    Looks like a blue footed booby to me. Am I right? Do I win a prize?

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    OBUMMER IS A DIRTY SOCIALIST MUSLIM!

    oh, wait, i shoulda read the first thread. i got ahead of myself!


    sure, have a politics thread so we can all end up hating eachother. Also, religion thread would be nice too. i'd go in there and crush some skulls. fun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty $anchez View Post
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    a tit thread would be awesome!

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    I prefer the good old days when a difference of opinion seemed like a healthy thing. I'm not sure when the good old days were, but I'm sure they existed at some point. Didn't they? Oh yeah, that was back when folks had conversations face-to-face and a good old fashioned fist fight loomed as a potential outcome if a participant pushed too far. Ah, the good old days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty $anchez View Post
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    actually I'm disappointed in you.... I was expecting a cows teet
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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleB View Post
    OBUMMER IS A DIRTY SOCIALIST MUSLIM!

    oh, wait, i shoulda read the first thread. i got ahead of myself!


    sure, have a politics thread so we can all end up hating eachother. Also, religion thread would be nice too. i'd go in there and crush some skulls. fun!
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    Politics should be aloud as long as no one disagrees with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleB View Post
    OBUMMER IS A DIRTY SOCIALIST MUSLIM!
    You forgot the part about him being born in Kenya.
    Its all Shits and Giggles until somebody Giggles and Shits

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    Quote Originally Posted by Awshucks View Post
    Politics should be aloud as long as no one disagrees with me.
    Mine is quiet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Awshucks View Post
    Politics should be aloud as long as no one disagrees with me.



    It should also require a spelling test before entry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty $anchez View Post
    It should also require a spelling test before entry.
    Grate that memes ill stay a way.
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    Eye don't think that's fare...

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    Quote Originally Posted by girlonbike View Post
    What I really think is: bikes have a way of uniting people of all backgrounds - whether you are rich or poor; no matter what your race, religion or national origin is. Politics does exactly the opposite. It has no place here. But. Somebody disagrees with me so let's argue some more about dum stuff that gets us nowhere and changes nobody's minds.
    Bike love is certainly not influenced by politics, but the bike you own may very well be. I will agree that politics can be polarizing, I don't think it has to or should be that way. We shouldn't be afraid to discuss matters of such importance so as not to offend others or for fear of reprisal. The only way to change what seems to be the default ugh reaction is discussion. It isn't about validating your belief by getting others to agree with you or see the light, it's about recognizing the complexity of the whole life experience and knowing that the more input you have the better equipped you will be to affirm your belief or change your way of thinking. No one changes anyone, but it is possible to influence or inspire change in oneself by listening to others, expanding your knowledge base, and improving the willingness to compromise so everyone wins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    Look, we an official "bike thread" in OC, right? If the members can behave themselves, maybe there should be an official "politics thread" where anything political is kept/said/preached/discussed there and there only. If members can't behave themselves, then axe 'em. Isn't that the general rule already? Why not just do this, since politics are clearly going to pop up here again and again here like they always have.

    I can say that I wouldn't be involved much with it because I hate the subject myself but I would probably lurk to get in some good laughs and chuckles from the silliness that would undoubtedly go on in there.
    I think this sums it up. Be civil, don't participate if you don't want to.
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAOS1 View Post
    post yer teets!
    here you go.
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    And then we eat them."

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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    here you go.
    Nice ones. BTW, how's the Bike Art coming?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Raton View Post
    Nice ones. BTW, how's the Bike Art coming?
    Foookin' GREEAAT
    Working on some cool new sculpture projects, so the whole thing is morphing. Still doing clocks n' such, people love them...
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    You shootin' n' training n' such?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    Foookin' GREEAAT
    Working on some cool new sculpture projects, so the whole thing is morphing. Still doing clocks n' such, people love them...
    Welcome to Bicyclart! | bicyclart.com

    You shootin' n' training n' such?
    That's good to hear. Not so much for me these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Raton View Post
    That's good to hear. Not so much for me these days.
    Well, if you get the old..."itch", there is a lady on a white horse in your area that needs dispatchin'!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    Well, if you get the old..."itch", there is a lady on a white horse in your area that needs dispatchin'!
    Nah, I don't think so. I ain't like that anymore.

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