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    New question here. Please explain why England/US use a PERIOD between $ and cents & why Euros use COMMAS

    OK, this has intrigued/annoyed me for some time now and finally decided enough is enough, I can't explain it. A full stop/period to me signifies a stop, something different is after, that they do not mix/are swapable, hence the full stop/period used by the US, Britain and other "British" territories makes sense, using a coma does not, a comma to me means a pause or separator to help make it easier to read big values/numbers, i.e. 325,209,675. Anybody have any insight to this at all?
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    My guess is Securities - the Numbers read the same regardless.
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    I think you meant comma not coma

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    Ahh comma is the proper decimal separator - so it is used when you get into stuff that is smaller than one. 1,20 euro, 3,5 cm, 5,4 kg.

    To separate bigger numbers, a [space] works fine.

    1 000 000 000 = 1 Billion if you live in USA (elsewhere it isn't).
    edit: make it: "in lots of places it isn't"
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    It's probably related to the reason why they report dates as DD/MM/YYYY and we use MM/DD/YYYY

    I agree it's odd, in math you use a decimal point, why do they not do the same for currency? It's the same thing ...
    But if you close your eyes it becomes so easy to see

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    So then Europeans are not in a coma after all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wv_bob View Post
    I agree it's odd, in math you use a decimal point,
    Nope. Decimal comma.

    edit: reference to the source of all wordly knowledge:
    Decimal mark - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    OK so they're consistently different. Or we are, since they came first.
    But if you close your eyes it becomes so easy to see

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    I don't care as long as one of you sends me one point five million dollars. I accept PayPal.

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    I've got connections across the pond but they only have the equivalent of 1,1 million. Sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wv_bob View Post
    OK so they're consistently different. Or we are, since they came first.
    Agreed, and why we, the USA, are in a anti-metric stronghold is baffling.
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    Because if we left the current system, the saying "a pint's a pound the world around" would become obsolete

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    Quote Originally Posted by theMeat View Post
    Agreed, and why we, the USA, are in a anti-metric stronghold is baffling.
    Decisions made by our government are a constant source of bafflement for me.
    But if you close your eyes it becomes so easy to see

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty $anchez View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by heyyall View Post
    Because if we left the current system, the saying "a pint's a pound the world around" would become obsolete
    Does that refer to
    1) Imperial pint
    2) US liquid pint
    3) US dry pint
    or
    4) some other pint?

    Oh. If the saying means that a pint of some substance always weighs a pound, what substance is it? Water doesn't seem to fit.

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    In Quebec, dates are in the DD/MM/YY format. The decimal point is a comma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by perttime View Post
    Does that refer to
    1) Imperial pint
    2) US liquid pint
    3) US dry pint
    or
    4) some other pint?

    Oh. If the saying means that a pint of some substance always weighs a pound, what substance is it? Water doesn't seem to fit.
    Exactly.

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    Still don't get the comma thing, you have your $$ or Pounds and you want that clearly known, hence the full stop/period, then you have your cents/pence, 2 completely difference units of measurement If I trace this back I'm sure the comma thing comes from the "Frogs"

    The date thing in the US I think stems from writing it to match how you would say it, so March 25th 2013 becomes 03/25/2013, however it then gets confusing when it's March 3rd 03/03/2013. I Always right it out Month/Day/Year, but if just using numbers I go smallest to biggest DD/MM/YYYY.

    As to the Metric vs Imperial, I mix and match and just plain understand certain measurements in Imperial and not Metric and some in Metric and not Imperial....
    - Stem Length, Bar Width, Post length, Sus Travel, A2C=Metric in MM
    - ETT, Wheelbase, Standover, Wheel size=Imperial in Inches
    - Speed=Imperial in MPH, just can't register KMH

    All this even though we are full on Metric, but when I was growing up we used Imperial or at least a lot of stuff did
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    Do emoticons have the same meaning the world over?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Still don't get the comma thing, you have your $$ or Pounds and you want that clearly known, hence the full stop/period, then you have your cents/pence, 2 completely difference units of measurement
    Nope.
    There's a clear connection between Pounds and Pence, Euro and Cent or Dollar and Cent.

    One Cent is just 1/100 of a Dollar or Euro. The word "cent" derives from the Latin word "centum" meaning hundred

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    Quote Originally Posted by wv_bob View Post
    Decisions made by our government are a constant source of bafflement for me.
    Actually back in the late 70's the government was trying to get the US to convert but it was the public's resistance to the change the killed the conversion. Although I imagine that the policy makers could have done something different, in the end it was the public that dictated that we stay away from metric. I don't understand why though, the metric system is so much easier to use and comprehend. Old habits die hard I suppose.

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    For some unknown reason beyond insanity, I remember this report coming out:
    http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/GAOREPO...CED-95-156.pdf

    In 1996, the "guesstimate" for the cost of replacing the signs was $420,000,000. That would be roughly over $620,000,000 now just for the speed limit signs (if I recall correctly...didn't care to read the whole report). Throw in the mile markers on interstates, distances to cities signs, and exit numbers (which are almost universally the mile markers), the scope of recalibrating the US would be way beyond what anybody would consider reasonable at this point in time.

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    That's a good reference. Cost is certainly a solid pragmatic reason for no conversion. Maybe some sort of grandfathering of signs could be a viable answer. As signs are replaced they could be replaced with updated versions that include metric units in addition to the standard English system units. Of course having some signs with one standard and others with both would inevitably be too complicated for most Americans, so never mind.

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    Except how much does it cost us not to get with the rest of the planet, and how much more expensive does it get the longer it takes us to.
    Right now it's Burma, Liberia, Somalia, and the U.S. that're unwilling. Does anyone else see a problem with this list?
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    Ya I've seen that list of holdouts and it's pretty dumb of us. However I don't know if it actually costs us anything, I'm sure it does somehow but I have never seen any figures. Unfortunately in these times of budget cuts and revenue shortfalls it's going to be a hard sell to add what many people view as frivolous or unnecessary costs to already burdened budgets.

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