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  • 11-08-2012
    big terry
    Middle Earth nerds
    So who is planning to see The Hobbit? Presale tix just went up for grabs here so I snatched up a pair to see it in HFR 3D at midnight. Yeah, I am just that much of a Tolkien nerd. Sad that as of now there are no IMAX theaters within 100 miles that are showing in HFR 3D, so I'll have to settle for regular screen... but I haven't seen a 3D movie since Friday the 13th in 3D so I am sure it will still kick ass.
  • 11-08-2012
    Tone's
    Im looking forward to it big T, it should be great, not to mention im looking forward to the next 3 starwars movies with the first being in 2015, now that Lucas has sold the rights, i grew up on the original trilogy.
  • 11-08-2012
    XLNC
    I'm going to see it for sure, though I don't have to be the first to see it so I'll likely wait for a month or two.
  • 11-08-2012
    Hawg
    Can't wait to see it!!! :thumbsup:

    Also looking waaaay forward to the next Star Trek movie!!! :thumbsup:
  • 11-08-2012
    Tone's
    ^^ Hawg, star trek,.....please...........really.....
  • 11-08-2012
    Hawg
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    ^^ Hawg, star trek,.....please...........really.....

    You like Star Wars and NOT Star Trek? Is that not a contradiction in itself?

    Have you seen the newest Star Trek movie from a few year ago? It was very well done.That's how they should be made! Don't get me wrong, I love all the old stuff, too.
  • 11-08-2012
    random walk
    Mosdef going to see The Hobbit.
  • 11-08-2012
    Guerdonian
    100% in. This will be the first movie have seen in the theater for over a year. 2 hours and 44min of awesome. I enjoy sci-fi stuff, but I am more of a "High Fantasy" or "Sword and Sorcery" type nerd. LOTR in both written and movie form was a huge deal for me, and I hope the hobbit lives up to my expectations.

    Character gallery:
    Character gallery The Hobbit - Imgur

  • 11-08-2012
    nuffink
    LOTR - 1200 pages, 3 films. Fair enough it was published as a trilogy and Jackson did a good job (lets gloss over Viggo Motensen's singing at the end).
    The Hobbit - 300 pages, 3 films? Really? We'll see.
  • 11-08-2012
    Guerdonian
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nuffink View Post
    LOTR - 1200 pages, 3 films. Fair enough it was published as a trilogy and Jackson did a good job (lets gloss over Viggo Motensen's singing at the end).
    The Hobbit - 300 pages, 3 films? Really? We'll see.

    I have my concerns as well, but there were many large sections of LOTR that were skipped in the movies, that could have easily taken hours worth of additional movie time. For example the Bombadil story when the hobbits first left the shire was almost 1/6th of the first book, and not a single scene was in the movie. Additionally the scouring of the shire at the end of the series was a great little end story that could probably be a shorter 2 hour movie by itself.

    Scenes I am looking forward to most in the hobbit: Smaug (the dragon's) attack on lake town, and the EPIC battle of 5 armies!!!

    All you could ever want for LOTR, Hobbit, The Silmarillion, and Tolkens other works.
    Lord of the Rings Wiki
  • 11-08-2012
    nuffink
    I'm not writing it off in advance. I'll probably go just to see what a 60 fps film shot on Red cameras looks like on the big screen. However, it's a thin story to be stretching over that amount of time and it's not as if Tolkein's characterisation and dialog can keep the party going when the action flags. I hope I'm wrong and, as you say, Jackson had the good taste to ditch all that Tom Bombadil nonsense so fingers crossed.
  • 11-08-2012
    53119
    jackson's lotr movie trilogy burned me out. anybody remember bakshi's version? i think it came out in '79 maybe. i still have a vhs recording of that flick somehwere.
  • 11-08-2012
    NicoleB
    i remember having a talk with my college professor about changing the date of my final. I didnt tell her why, but it was so i go go see the two towers!

    so yeah, i'll be seeing it
  • 11-08-2012
    Tystevens
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nuffink View Post
    LOTR - 1200 pages, 3 films. Fair enough it was published as a trilogy and Jackson did a good job (lets gloss over Viggo Motensen's singing at the end).
    The Hobbit - 300 pages, 3 films? Really? We'll see.

    Yeah, I'll see it for sure, but probably not opening night.

    Wow, the book is going to be three movies? I didn't know that .. having a hard time imagining it, although I haven't read it since elementary school. I know lots of stuff was cut out of the LOTR movies, but much of it wasn't necessary to the story line -- the Tom Bombadil scene would have only made sense to the hardcores, I think and would have left others (like my wife) confused and thinking the movies were even more out there. Actually, the third movie could have been 40 minutes shorter and I would have been happy. They have to walk a fine line making these types of movies to appeal the casual fan while not offending or insulting the fanatic.
  • 11-08-2012
    nuffink
    Yeah indeed, and the Tolkein fans are, shall we say, passionate.
  • 11-08-2012
    random walk
    I would have appreciated a favorable representation of Goldberry :)
  • 11-08-2012
    cyclelicious
    Definitely plan to see it
  • 11-08-2012
    rockcrusher
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 53119 View Post
    jackson's lotr movie trilogy burned me out. anybody remember bakshi's version? i think it came out in '79 maybe. i still have a vhs recording of that flick somehwere.

    I remember renting it and watching it with my geek friends and being sadly disappointed that it was never completed.

    I will see the hobbit but alas it will probably be at home on the massive 32" flat screen TV as $10 tickets or whatever it costs now x 2 plus a baby sitter and snacks to see the movie is the equivalent of a lot of things that are actually needed.
  • 11-08-2012
    wbmason55
    Oh man, my ass still hurts from the day I saw the special premier of Return of the King in theatres, when they showed the extended cut of the first two films followed by ROTK sequentially.

    I never go to the theatre, but between The Hobbit and Skyfall, it's going to be a good few months.
  • 11-08-2012
    skullcap
    I'm really looking forward to this but when I first found out it was split into three movies I had a very wtf reaction. I guess they'll cover some things in a lot of detail. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing Smaug up close and personal. I love dragons.
  • 11-08-2012
    StiHacka
    I wonder if they ever put the Silmarillion on the silver screen, too. I am too obsessed with dragons (hey I am one according to the Chinese) and seeing Ancalagon the Black and Glaurung the Golden would be a feast for my weary eyes!

    No movie is gonna beat the books though.
  • 11-08-2012
    marpilli
    The Hobbit, Star Wars, Star Trek, sign me up for all of them. Good stuff to look forward to.
  • 11-08-2012
    big terry
    I am still butthurt that the entirety of the Tom Bombadil interaction was completely blown off by Jackson. Yeah, I'm one of those. However, I still watch the trilogy regularly- I mean, it's what I put on the PC to go to sleep at night, almost every night. (Once a week I'll put on V for Vendetta but that's another story.) I use the LOTR trilogy because it's easy to fall asleep to- if its a movie I havent seen, I tend to stay awake, but with LOTR I know most all of the dialogue by heart, so I'm not missing anything by falling asleep :)

    I'm also saddened by the fact that this one story- not epic novel, but short story, basically- is going to be dragged out. I can easily see being able to make the story fit into 3 movies, and that to me speaks volumes about detail (which Jackson is no slouch at delivering.) I can't put aside the thought that it is being done solely from a profitability standpoint as well, and that makes me a little sore. Still, I haven't seen a movie in a theater for several years, so going to see this one is going to be quite a treat for me, so the 30 bucks I paid for 2 tickets doesnt really hurt that bad.

    And I have a poorly digitized copy of Bashki's animated Hobbit...it's hard to watch because the copy came from a bad videotape. I would really like to have a nice copy of it but they are impossible to find. I remember watching it when it came out- I was rabid to see it, because the year before that my grandmother got me the Tolkien set with all 4 books (Hobbit, and LOTR series) that I devoured in about 2 weeks. When the movie came out it was all I could talk about until I got to see it :)

    The next 5 weeks are going to be a tough wait.
  • 11-08-2012
    Guerdonian
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by big terry View Post
    ......I can't put aside the thought that it is being done solely from a profitability standpoint as well, and that makes me a little sore. Still, I haven't seen a movie in a theater for several years, so going to see this one is going to be quite a treat for me, so the 30 bucks I paid for 2 tickets doesnt really hurt that bad........

    We are on the same page there. I could see 2 movies easy, but 3 moves at almost 3hrs each made me wonder about the motives.
  • 11-08-2012
    big terry
    Well I just did a little research, and it appears that although there are 3 movies, it would appear that The Hobbit story will be covered in the first two (the second one, The Desolation of Smaug, to be released same time, next year)... the third one is tentatively titled There and Back Again and will be an expansion on the story of Middle Earth. Jackson says it will make extensive use of Tolkien's appendices in the book. Sadly, the rights to the Silmarillion are not owned by New Line or UA, so no dice on that front.

    It looks like part 1 takes Bilbo to Gollum's cave, and part 2 will get the group past Lake-Town and into Smaug's den. Guessing, but part 3 would be the journey home?

    Im still stoked. Im not a huge movie watcher, and very rarely watch anything on tv, but Middle Earth has had me sucked in for close to 40 years. I can't *NOT* see them all.
  • 11-08-2012
    OscarW
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by marpilli View Post
    The Hobbit, Star Wars, Star Trek, sign me up for all of them. Good stuff to look forward to.

    Same here! :thumbsup:
    As a kid I could never get through the Tolkien books, but the movies were amazing enough to get me into reading them after all.
  • 11-08-2012
    Tystevens
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rockcrusher View Post
    I will see the hobbit but alas it will probably be at home on the massive 32" flat screen TV as $10 tickets or whatever it costs now x 2 plus a baby sitter and snacks to see the movie is the equivalent of a lot of things that are actually needed.

    No kidding ... a babysitter + a cheap dinner + movie tickets and a drink is a $75 evening.

    I'm not sure I spent that much on prom!
  • 11-08-2012
    LWright
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by big terry View Post
    I am still butthurt that the entirety of the Tom Bombadil interaction was completely blown off by Jackson. ...
    And I have a poorly digitized copy of Bashki's animated Hobbit...it's hard to watch because the copy came from a bad videotape..

    Thank you Jackson for forgoing all the long and dull poems and songs!!
    IIRC that Bashki version was just plain hard to watch.
  • 11-08-2012
    random walk
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OscarW View Post
    Same here! :thumbsup:
    As a kid I could never get through the Tolkien books, but the movies were amazing enough to get me into reading them after all.

    Same here -- actually I was more into sci-fi novels, and never had the assignment in school to read Tolkien.

    Starting shortly after the Fellowship movie was released, I've read the trilogy twice.
  • 11-08-2012
    singlesprocket
    read all the books when i was a wee lad... look forward to the hobbit!
  • 11-08-2012
    StiHacka
    Growing up in communism sucked donkey ballz, Tolkien was on a black list (he placed Mordor in the East etc.). :madmax: Anyway, I eventually got an access to his books as a teenager and the trilogy was the first serious piece of literature that I read in English. :thumbsup:
  • 11-08-2012
    wyatt79m
    I'm excited, I don't think it needs to be 3 movies? But whatever, I'll go see 'em all.
  • 11-08-2012
    wbmason55
    From what I could tell from the trailer, the movies will include Gandalf infiltrating Dol Gundur, only alluded to in the book, but pretty cool.

    I'm struggling to understand how The Hobbit can be 3 movies..granted, I didn't think the 3 LOTR films were long enough to do the book justice.....I just hope hope that PJ doesn't try to do something dumb like thread Tom Bombadil into the Hobbit, as a gratuitously misplaced character, the way he dealt with Old Man Willow in the extended cut movie, or introducing Elves to the Helms Deep Battle

    The Silmarillion would be beyond epic.
  • 11-08-2012
    XLNC
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by big terry View Post
    However, I still watch the trilogy regularly- I mean, it's what I put on the PC to go to sleep at night, almost every night.

    This is my dirty little secret that I'm guilty of too. When the extended edition triolgy set came out (for DVD) I got it the first day. Then when I upgraded to the Blu Ray player, again the first thing I bought was the LOTR triology extended edition for it.
    Since getting the DVD set many years ago, I'll wager I've watched at least one of the movies each month - more often in the winter months because where I am, it's cold and it's dark by 5pm.


    Question- is there any plan to convert the LOTR triology into 3D?
  • 11-09-2012
    Guerdonian
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by XLNC View Post
    Question- is there any plan to convert the LOTR triology into 3D?

    Oh man, shut up and take my money! That would be awesome.
  • 11-09-2012
    XLNC
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Guerdonian View Post
    Oh man, shut up and take my money! That would be awesome.

    I guess that was the proper choice of words for the question. I wondered later if a better choice of words would have been "SHOULD there be any plans" but after reading this thread again and seeing the people's "passion" for these movies (not to mention the number of people on their facebook page), I'm sure, as you said - we'd all just surrender whatever amount of money we'd have to without any questions asked, if it were going to happen.

    I know changing 2D to 3D is an expensive proposition, but here on MTBR we're just a little microcosm - so on a larger scale there are probably more then enough people that would support such an endeavour so that it would be financially justifiyable. We should start a petition!!!!
  • 11-09-2012
    big terry
    Jackson still has hours worth of footage that wasn't even used in the extended cuts, and alludes to plans to use it all in an "ultimate" cut sometime in the future. People would jump on it- myself being one of them. 3D? I think it would behoove him (and New Line) to hold off on that until 3D flatscreens are more mainstream and less of a high-end niche for home theater as they are now. The tech is definitely there to make a conversion now, but I dont think the market is deep enough just yet to warrant it.

    A remastered, 3D theatrical release, however... yeah, I'd go.
  • 12-13-2012
    big terry
    Tonight is the night! Gonna be hell to pay at work tomorrow after seeing a midnight movie, but its gonna be worth it. I just got done rebuilding my computer and reinstalling windows, still have tons of crap to reinstall, but i need to take a nap before i leave haha.
  • 12-13-2012
    OscarW
    Have fun! Looks like a cool flick! :thumbsup:
  • 12-13-2012
    cyclelicious
    I'm curious about the unique 48FPS which should look crisp. Depending on the viewpoint, the result will either look more lifelike or it might seem oddly cold.

    We're planning to see The Hobbit on Saturday
  • 12-14-2012
    big terry
    i saw it in 3d HFR, and the 48fps was amazing- although I see where the naysayers are getting their "looks like TV" complaints. it is SO crisp that there is no motion blur, especially in action sequences. Every frame is crisp and sharp and blends with the next frame. I think the HFR could and should be the way films get made now, especially action films, and i am a newfound fan of 3d in movies. holy CRAP was it cool! (Bear in mind the last 3d film i saw in a theater was with the red and blue lenses, it was friday the 13th part 3 i think. its been a long time haha.)
  • 12-14-2012
    Hutch3637
    Okay, I guess I'll post this. The other morning on the way back home freezing my ass off I hear this "Jigga Hobbit" replace J with N. Kid on a short yellow bus, go figure, keeps calling me this all the way back home as the closest school is right around the corner from my house. Such a pleasant neighborhood I live in.

    Yesterday morning, I was told Yo Jigga, that setup is gangster, as my 1800 and 600 lights where probably blinding him. Again replace J with N. Who knew.... Apparently I'm a "Jigga hobbit who is gangster".
  • 12-14-2012
    muzzanic
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hutch3637 View Post
    Okay, I guess I'll post this. The other morning on the way back home freezing my ass off I hear this "Jigga Hobbit" replace J with N. Kid on a short yellow bus, go figure, keeps calling me this all the way back home as the closest school is right around the corner from my house. Such a pleasant neighborhood I live in.

    Yesterday morning, I was told Yo Jigga, that setup is gangster, as my 1800 and 600 lights where probably blinding him. Again replace J with N. Who knew.... Apparently I'm a "Jigga hobbit who is gangster".

    People ah, some are just A- holes
  • 12-14-2012
    Hutch3637
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by muzzanic View Post
    People ah, some are just A- holes

    Eh, just normal everyday life in "The Ghetto".

    Back on topic. Hopefully the bootleg videos of this are sweet, cause I'm not paying a dime for a movie. :thumbsup:
  • 12-14-2012
    cyclelicious
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by big terry View Post
    i saw it in 3d HFR, and the 48fps was amazing- although I see where the naysayers are getting their "looks like TV" complaints. it is SO crisp that there is no motion blur, especially in action sequences. Every frame is crisp and sharp and blends with the next frame. I think the HFR could and should be the way films get made now, especially action films, and i am a newfound fan of 3d in movies. holy CRAP was it cool! (Bear in mind the last 3d film i saw in a theater was with the red and blue lenses, it was friday the 13th part 3 i think. its been a long time haha.)

    Precious :thumbsup:

    Looking forward to seeing it
  • 11-19-2013
    cyclelicious
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    More Dwarfs! More Bilbo! More Elves! More Smaug!?

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbOEk...ature=youtu.be

    December 13
  • 11-20-2013
    emu26
    oh that's unlucky timing
  • 11-22-2013
    deke505
    well here is something for all you middle earth people

    The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug - A Journey Through Middle-earth
  • 11-22-2013
    DIRTJUNKIE
    N.m.b.b.
  • 11-22-2013
    deke505
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    N.m.b.b.

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