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    Hawg's Rant Thread, Volume 2: The cost of things

    Why does everything cost so much?

    Share experiences of outrageous bills you've paid and or rant about something coming up that you've got to spend outrageous amounts of money on or just rant on and on about the worthlessness of money. No bars held, let it all out here. This is a meant to be a therapeutic thread.

    Tomorrow, I am spending almost $900 on a new set of tires for my truck. What the hell is that all about?!

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    I feel you on the tires. I have needed new ones for over a year. I bought a set 5 years ago for $500 shipped, now the same set is $1150 shipped!!! I mean, WTF!!!! With all the used and trashed tires around this world, why can't we somehow melt them down and make new ones for cheap? I just don't get it.
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    Tell me why on Friday morning there is only 3 people on the road, and then Friday after 2pm EVERYBODY is on the road...why Why WHY !?! ?
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    What's up with a $4-$5 cup of Joe. They get you addicted to a fancy cup of coffee and before you know it your monthly bill payments suffer. I bet it costs them .25¢ to make it. WTF
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    I live in Santa Monica. My annual rent is equivalent to buying a brand new BMW 3-series every year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    I live in Santa Monica. My annual rent is equivalent to buying a brand new BMW 3-series every year.
    Not for long, and where you're going you might just have an M3 parked in your garage in a very few months.

    BTW, why in the hell do cars cost so much?!

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    Hawg's Rant Thread, Volume 2: The cost of things

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    BTW, why in the hell do cars cost so much?!
    Because of the UAW, thats why . . . . and don't get me started on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    Because of the UAW, thats why . . . . and don't get me started on that.
    Yeah, it's ALWAYS the unions' fault. Couldn't be crappy management, greedy, short-sighted stockholders, overpaid CEO's. It must be those greedy bastards standing on a cement floor and busting their asses for 8 hours a day.

    On topic, groceries. Cripes, I go and buy a week's worth just for myself, maybe a couple of Health/beauty/toiletries, a six of microbrew and spend a hundred bucks. AND it fits in four grocery bags. You should NOT be able to fit a hundred bucks worth of staples in four bags. That's just wrong.

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    My cable company continues to offer me a bundle of TV, internet, and land line for $90. a month.

    I currently pay (same company mind you) $140 for TV and internet. Every time one of their telemarketers call i respond the same way "ok, lets do it. Dont bother installing the phone though". The bundle is $90 for an introductory time, then jacks up to a bit more than what i am currently paying. Your warning that the introductory period is over is the bill. When you want to cancel the bundle, you have to find an open branch office (no easy task, they seem to be closed usually) then wait in line 30-45 min and argue with the clerk to get them to take the phone equipment back. The last time i did it i came to the conclusion that it was more trouble than saving $50.00 a month for a few months. Bastards!

    On the subject of truck tires...

    Single father, single income, rent, food, gas, bills......yea i dont have $800+ for tires. I have been buying used tires for years. If you check several places you can usually find a set that matches for $50 per tire. Clearly they do not last as long, but for the price of ONE new tire i can go from sketchy unsafe bald tires to tread again for another year or more.

    I hate being middle class, yet broke the day after payday damn near every time. At least i have developed the art of staggering expenses. School shopping for kiddo coming up. /sigh

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    ^ I'm a major bargain shopper. I do lots of online research or phone calls around for the best price before I settle for anything. It's kinda fun to get companies to try to outbid the next one. The new tires were $158 each the last time I bought them in 2011. From the same company, they offered them for $185 each this time. I told them how much I had paid in 2011 and the salesman dropped each tire down to $177 which is fine for me compared to the cost of other big brand equivalent tires that generally go for around $250 each. I got 35K miles out of each of the two sets of these tires which is pretty good for a truck that hauls loads all day. BFG Long Trail T/A 265/60/R18 tires.

    Still, tires are outrageously priced!

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    maybe not melting them down, but check this out:
    www.treadwright.com/
    I've got a set of these and there pretty cool. made in the USA too.
    ...now if only they could do this for bike tires

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtdawg21892 View Post
    maybe not melting them down, but check this out:
    www.treadwright.com/
    I've got a set of these and there pretty cool. made in the USA too.
    ...now if only they could do this for bike tires
    Thanks man but I'm a highway hauler. Those babies would sing quite a tune at high speed on pavement.

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    The price of custom bondage equipment has gone through the roof this year, slings, racks, latex gimp masks, pummel horses, restraints, its getting right out of hand, its not like latex, rubber and leather prices have gone up, most are resorting to home made or second hand stuff these days, and you dont always know whos been using it, that can be exciting, but it can also spread STD's, but its getting to the point where its the risk we all have to take.
    I like to use the smell test, if it smells a bit assy, i know im onto a winner.
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    Boating cost have gone through the roof to the point I am considering selling mine. Fuel at the Marina on Lake Powell is $5.28 a gallon and a bag of ice will cost you $5.00 as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillbo View Post
    Boating cost have gone through the roof to the point I am considering selling mine. Fuel at the Marina on Lake Powell is $5.28 a gallon and a bag of ice will cost you $5.00 as well.
    The fuel thing doesn't surprise me. It's always more more expensive on the water then on the land and these big lakes are generally out in the boondocks anyway so I have to think there's an extra delivery charge to get it out there. This year at Lake Mead, our houseboat fuel tab was $533 and all we did was leave the generator running the whole time to keep it tolerable inside. Didn't even travel around. Drove it to the spot of choice and parked it.

    As far as ice pricing, that's truly ridiculous. Perhaps a seasonal ice portable ice vendor business would be in order? You could make some bank, I'm sure!

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    In the past 2 years, the same basket of groceries has gone from $25 to over $40.
    Find it moronic that food, and fuel are not included in the cost of living index.
    We all must eat, and the vast majority must drive to work, yet our politicians statistics refuse
    to acknowledge this source of inflation that's crushing the poor & middle class.

    Instead, of addressing the effect of commodity future's trading they continue to provide tax breaks to big oil, who continually post record earnings, and soon plan to eliminate food stamps by increasing farm subsidies to the largest agri-corp's. WTF?.. Arrrrrrrrrrrggh !!

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    O.K., here 'goes. Plumbers. Sorry if I offend anyone in the industry.

    Recently we had a clog in our main sewer line. Taking showers ankle-deep in backed up sewage. Shit happens. Had a plumber come out twice to snake it and film it, $89 each time. My only clean-out point was 60 feet from the clog so I had no way of doing it myself for much cheaper. So that was not terribly unreasonable.

    Turns out, the clog was right at the interface between our property's main line and the city line. Roots got into the pipe at that interface. OK, so time to replace. There is no more than 10 feet of cast iron pipe running between our foundation and the city line, it's 3" pipe (everything now is 4"), and it's 55 years old. No concrete to jackhammer, buried no more than 4 feet down. The plumber's quote to do this is at the end, for dramatic effect.

    So after hemming and hawing about it and consulting my brother in law (who has built at least half a dozen custom houses), I decided to do it myself and start digging Friday. He said he'd help with the parts list and installation since I've no experience doing the plumbing part. Figured it should take me 3 days tops, over the weekend.

    Yesterday I come home from work and there's my BIL's butt sticking up out of a 4-foot deep trench, hooking up new 4" plastic pipe between the house and the city line. With 2 directional cleanouts installed for future problems. Glued up, set and buried before dinner time.

    $170 in parts, 8 hours of labor, and a quart of gas for the round trip to Home Depot.

    How much to do this, Mr. Plumber?

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    the rent is too damn high!

    not trying to make a joke, but seriously, rent always goes up even when there's nothing to show for it. you shouldnt have to pay so much not to live in the ghetto or a cardboard box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    The price of custom bondage equipment has gone through the roof this year, slings, racks, latex gimp masks, pummel horses, restraints, its getting right out of hand, its not like latex, rubber and leather prices have gone up, most are resorting to home made or second hand stuff these days, and you dont always know whos been using it, that can be exciting, but it can also spread STD's, but its getting to the point where its the risk we all have to take.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleB View Post
    the rent is too damn high!

    not trying to make a joke, but seriously, rent always goes up even when there's nothing to show for it. you shouldnt have to pay so much not to live in the ghetto or a cardboard box.
    Agreed

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    Follow-on to my plumbing rant: City rant.

    About a year ago, the city came out and replaced all their sewer lines up to the property boundaries in my area.

    In looking at the old pipe we pulled out of the ground yesterday, it's apparent the city reconnected their new line to my old line with the original (55 y.o.) coupling, instead of installing a new coupling. The old coupling failed (split open) which was the point of entry for the roots. The resulting root ball would fill the inside of a biking helmet, for point of reference.

    They did this retrofit on hundreds of houses in my neighborhood, and who knows where else. I wonder how many others are going to have this problem?

    Over a $2 part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    ^ I'm a major bargain shopper. I do lots of online research or phone calls around for the best price before I settle for anything. It's kinda fun to get companies to try to outbid the next one. The new tires were $158 each the last time I bought them in 2011. From the same company, they offered them for $185 each this time. I told them how much I had paid in 2011 and the salesman dropped each tire down to $177 which is fine for me compared to the cost of other big brand equivalent tires that generally go for around $250 each. I got 35K miles out of each of the two sets of these tires which is pretty good for a truck that hauls loads all day. BFG Long Trail T/A 265/60/R18 tires.

    Still, tires are outrageously priced!
    You will get far, far far more miles out of a BF Goodrich All Terrain KO tire than the Long Trails. Buy them. We got 98k out of a set on a 2000 Eddie Bauer AWD Ford Explorer with a 5.0 V8. Spend the extra money and get the All Terrains, and live with the noise and more $$$ in your pocket for longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    pummel horses
    Dare I ask what this is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by random walk View Post
    Follow-on to my plumbing rant: City rant.

    About a year ago, the city came out and replaced all their sewer lines up to the property boundaries in my area.

    In looking at the old pipe we pulled out of the ground yesterday, it's apparent the city reconnected their new line to my old line with the original (55 y.o.) coupling, instead of installing a new coupling. The old coupling failed (split open) which was the point of entry for the roots. The resulting root ball would fill the inside of a biking helmet, for point of reference.

    They did this retrofit on hundreds of houses in my neighborhood, and who knows where else. I wonder how many others are going to have this problem?

    Over a $2 part.
    Every single one of them that has a tree within 20 feet of the pipe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyonadyke View Post
    You will get far, far far more miles out of a BF Goodrich All Terrain KO tire than the Long Trails. Buy them. We got 98k out of a set on a 2000 Eddie Bauer AWD Ford Explorer with a 5.0 V8. Spend the extra money and get the All Terrains, and live with the noise and more $$$ in your pocket for longer.
    I am EXTREMELY pansy about road noise, squeaks, groans, or any odd sound coming from a vehicle. I grow a vagina and breasts and I am having a heavy period when I hear these sorts of sounds.

    The new tires are on and it's really nice. Softer, quieter ride (new, soft rubber and more tread to absorb road vibrations).

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    razors. I end up using them down to butter knife dull because they cost so much
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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleB View Post
    razors. I end up using them down to butter knife dull because they cost so much
    Darling, no wonder you're complaining about sensitivity on the tender parts! Buy in bulk from eBay and save a ton of cash.

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    I do my best to run my bike tires tread pretty low, Schwalbe tires in 29'ers are plenty spendy, $60-70 for a bike tire? Puleeeeze!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyonadyke View Post
    I do my best to run my bike tires tread pretty low, Schwalbe tires in 29'ers are plenty spendy, $60-70 for a bike tire? Puleeeeze!
    As rediculous as R/C car tires that cost $25 and last 5 minutes
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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleB View Post
    razors. I end up using them down to butter knife dull because they cost so much
    Maybe go with an electric, or get a shearer, like one of those $22 jobbers by Wahl, down at the local Wally World.

    Silky or Barbed Wire Trapper, the Wahl mows them all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyonadyke View Post
    Maybe go with an electric, or get a shearer, like one of those $22 jobbers by Wahl, down at the local Wally World.

    Silky or Barbed Wire Trapper, the Wahl mows them all!
    Already conversed with her about the electric option. Girls claim that it pulls causing pain. It's true that electric shavers are only good for stubble but most of them have a grooming clipper to shorten the long hairs first. All that aside, the vibrating sensation of an electric shaver might just help out in another sensitive area for girls.

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    Oil/filter change on my truck (as in a semi truck, not a pick up) costs $300 every 15,000 miles, or about every 1.75 month. Used to be $200 when I bought the truck back in 2010.

    A tire costs $500 each, and I have to buy 18 of them. Used to be $250-ish mere 3 years ago.

    Changing the head gasket on the Caterpillar engine in my truck cost me $3,800, and this was at local shop where labor is $75/hr, instead of $95/hr at CAT and Kenworth dealerships.

    Self-employment tax is too damn high! Why in the hell do I have to pay taxes for working for myself? (I know why, it's just a rhetorical question)

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    The other day the guy who was working on our 4Runner was explaining his disbelief at how much the cost of parts is going up.

    On a serious note, I should warn you all that you ain't seen nothing yet. I predict that within 2 years, a cup of coffee will cost a million dollars. Literally, I'm not joking. It's not that coffee is getting more valuable, it's that the currency is being debased.

    This is really serious shit, we are going to go through hyperinflation and likely another world war in the near future. Actually, I predict that it will officially start within 2 months, since it seems the London gold market is about to default. Currently, the Fed prints $85 billion a month to keep the insolvent banks solvent. As a result, the monetary base has quadrupled since 2008. This should have resulted in a quadrupling of prices, but since the banks aren't lending money out anymore and credit money has contracted, prices have only gone up maybe 50% or so. Where do you think all that money is going to go? Of course the oficial CPI statistics are so manipulated that they tell us that inflation is only 1%, a total lie by Bernanke and the banksters.

    This money printing will only increase going forward, and it's exponential. We should have had a 1930's style depression in 2008, but the magic of money printing postponed that a few years, and we are going to instead get a hyperinflatonary depression. Your savings in bonds will go to zero and your stocks will get hammered.

    We have allowed the Mafia (aka, Wall Street) to take over the western world; they now are in complete control of our governments. We are enslaved by parasites who have no regard for laws and regulations, they make them up and change them as they go, in order to maximally SCREW YOU THE AVERAGE MIDDLE CLASS SCHMUCK who allows this to happen. Anyone who has any signficant savings in the bank is partly resonsible for this!

    These cycles tend to repeat every 4 generations or so. The banks get out of control and destroy the economy, then everyone is up in arms and there is a bloody revolution where the bankers get hung and something resembling democracy is re-instated. Then things go well for a few decades and the banks manage sneak their way back in, and gradually impoverish the population again, and the plebs' apathy to it all allows it to happen (and that generation has no history to understand how this works, it all happened to their great grandparents), until the plebs can't put food on their table anymore and there is another bloody revolution and the cycle repeats.

    Plus, the world is at Peak Oil, and since oil is needed in just about everything you buy, that is contributing to price increases as well. Our population has overshot the carrying capacity of the planet about 5-fold, and fossil fuels are the only things that have prevented mass starvation. Since we don't seem interested in pursuing alternative energy, and since fossil fuels are now undeniably running out (despite what the media propaganda wants you to believe), we now face catastrophe. So there won't be another cycle Kondratiev cycle. The world is now on its final downhill spiral and the global population should be reduced to less than a billion within 50 years, I'd estimate.

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    ^^Um, yea (EDIT: OK, I went back and read it. That is a pretty serious rant.)

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    We pay over $100 /month for Internet across three smart phones and home Internet.
    I'm with you on the wireless prices! My wife and I both have smartphones. I love the smartphone when I need it but we are very low users of voice, data & text. The cheapest plans or prepaid for any carrier with any kind of coverage in the area is about $120 before the 12 different taxes, fees and whatever other kind of random charge they can tack on there.

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    Jeezums, Marc_BC, maybe you should get out and go fishing or something.

    I don't mean this in any political sort of way, but how about medical bills. Holy crap.

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    Hah, yeah I'm doing that tomorrow. I'm going on an 8 day bikerafting trip in the wilderness, good training for when there's a war and you need to get out of the city.

    I know it all sounds pretty intense, but that is unfortunately what the data is suggesting.

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    ^^Oh, yeah, how about insurance! Between health, life, dental, auto, home, rental, liability, motorcycle and maybe a few I've forgotten I pay around 6-7K/year on something I hope to never use and most of it seems to go up 20%/year without fail.

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    yeah, i saw the bill for my bloodwork. 4 tubes or so, 600+ dollars.
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    Hawg's Rant Thread, Volume 2: The cost of things-base_max_630_378.pngThis is why prices are rising. 4 times more dollars were created in the last 5 years than was created in all of previous human history.

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    So then, I'm not a sock or am I?.. Doggonnit

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    Top Ramen Noodles.
    Used to be 10 for a dollar and now its 6 for a dollar. wtf?

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    Oddly enough gas prices are dropping. But property values are going up fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleB View Post
    razors. I end up using them down to butter knife dull because they cost so much
    I used to use Gillette Fusion until I discovered Schick Hydraglide 5s. MUCH cheaper for no discernible difference in tender-part-smoothness
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    Good thing inflation is non existent! I make exactly $1 more per hour now than when I started with the present employer in 1999.

    I found a gas bill from my mother in law's house back in 1985 for $6 for one month.

    I paid my gas bill last night and it was $140 for one month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dru View Post
    Good thing inflation is non existent! I make exactly $1 more per hour now than when I started with the present employer in 1999.

    I found a gas bill from my mother in law's house back in 1985 for $6 for one month.

    I paid my gas bill last night and it was $140 for one month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dru View Post
    Good thing inflation is non existent! I make exactly $1 more per hour now than when I started with the present employer in 1999.

    I found a gas bill from my mother in law's house back in 1985 for $6 for one month.

    I paid my gas bill last night and it was $140 for one month.

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    huh? I thought gas prices were supposed to drop with all the new gas wells all over the country. /sarcasm
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