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    Golf is out, biking is in

    This is an interesting blog post about cycling being the new golf.

    Business networking: Cycling is the new golf | The Economist

    I like it.
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    These people are talking while riding? No wonder they think it's not competitive.
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    How do they smoke cigars while riding?

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    Golf is out, biking is in

    Have you ever had a "walking meeting"? Some people I work with wont meet one on one at a desk or conference room. You walk the floors, or if the weather is nice, the streets. I can say that some great ideas have come from these meetings. I think the same could be said from a bike meeting too.
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    Golf is out, biking is in

    The sales guys at my work use golf to liquor up and schmooze potential and existing customers. I don't see that changing over to cycling anytime soon.
    Have you ever tried riding while heavily liquored up? It doesn't work out all that well.


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    I like the way you stick folk think. Here in the big city, everything is very secretive. No open air meetings. You'd think a meeting was about plotting the end of the world by how closed door they are.

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    This isn't true for my company - either way. My "company" is actually my city and being they use tax payers dollars, they have found WAY more expensive ways to conduct their meetings....

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    Time to invent the electric "Trail Trike" w/ beer cooler.

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    This is good to know, because I suck at golf.
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    In many ways mountain biking is more "Members Only" than golf.

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    You know, I thought that was my doctor I passed this morning on the 50 year trail...
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    It also makes sense now why the trend is to sanitising the trails! Horsethief paved aint such a stretch... wait, maybe that's another thread?!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockerc View Post
    It also makes sense now why the trend is to sanitising the trails! Horsethief paved aint such a stretch... wait, maybe that's another thread?!?
    I think that's prime for the conspiracy theory thread: to bring the masses to cycling, big cycling companies are paving the trails to make it accessible to all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nwbikur View Post
    How do they smoke cigars while riding?
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    Can you imagine having a ranger come through the singletrack and nudge you to pick up the pace? That would be hilarious. Perhaps having a tee time wouldn't be so bad or a cute girl selling beverages and hot dogs along the loop. My big question is how do you develop a caddy program for the kids?
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    Most people I work/network with are too fat and out of shape to ride any distance let alone a multi day outing like the author describes. I found the article to be based on the writers wants not any reality that I've seen in the work place. And I live in Portland Oregon. Out of curiosity, how many people here have ridden with their CEO lately? How many charity/association events have you ridden in with associates. I'm not talking weekend informal get together but orginized races?

    I think biking is a long way from replacing golf for business networking.

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    Golf is out, biking is in

    Quote Originally Posted by Poe4soul View Post
    Most people I work/network with are too fat and out of shape to ride any distance let alone a multi day outing like the author describes. I found the article to be based on the writers wants not any reality that I've seen in the work place. And I live in Portland Oregon. Out of curiosity, how many people here have ridden with their CEO lately? How many charity/association events have you ridden in with associates. I'm not talking weekend informal get together but orginized races?

    I think biking is a long way from replacing golf for business networking.
    I'm in the backyard of Best Buy's corporate headquarters. They field a large employee team.

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    I'm organizing two cycling teams for a charity ride.

    So it might depend on the business, the area and the goals.
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    And I golf in about 8 charity events a year, play in 2 work related golf leagues, and have numerous outings with other associates. Many are way too out of shape to bike.

    I get that bikers have a community, I just think the author is overstating things a little bit. Not to even bring up that he's going on about overnight trips. There's even a smaller subset of bikers that are biking on extended trips with their employees/associates.

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    This kind of practice happens in many sports and in a much smaller scale than corporate setting. Usually a weekend thing and less of a business wheel and deal but more of a kiss up.

    Golf is much easier to do nowadays, with Tiger Woods entering the pro scene there are an explosion of new golfers and cheaper equipments. There are also plenty of ranges and courses in every major cities so it's easier to fakers to blend in with little effort.

    Mountain biking is much harder to do, first it's the equipments, can you say sticker shock, then it's the trail, you can't just show up on the off road trails and see how it goes. Very few die hard noobs I know have done that, most were introduced by experienced riders. You can't really fake this if you don't have a passion or interest for off-road riding this is not for you. Deny all you want but this sport is about embracing pain, heck may be even enjoying it a little

    So are they kissing up to the boss or some business talk going on the trail, yeah. I do it all the time, I called it net working but the sport itself help filter out the crazies and left with like minded people. I notice at the end of the ride or where we break at the turn around point the conversation are a lot more candid than at the trail head.

    Personally, I think mountain bikers are a bunch of great people I've interact with compare to other sports. Most riders I know are cool and awesome, passionate about the sport. I'm sure glad to be a part of it.

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    Perhaps true in the UK or in Europe, and agree that others have said "my clients / co-workers are too far out of shape to even ride a bike, let alone do a multi-day event".
    Both are acquired skills, no noobie can appear on the first tee, or at the trail-head, and be able to fit right in.
    So, whether a parking lot poser, or PGA statistician, your faking arse will be discovered, and later hung out to dry.
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    golf courses would convert to make great trails, pumptracks, skills park, bmx, and moto facilities. i'm all in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclelicious View Post
    How people cycle is a good judge of character.
    I've know a few bike throwers, and even more club throwers ... but now that I'm thinking about it, the bike throwers were all golfers.

    FWIW I used to golf, and never once threw a club even though I was terrible at it. I was the guy who was out there having fun not taking it seriously. Hit one and don't like it, it's OK i've got more in my pocket so I'd try again. I did once turn around and hit my ball back at a bunch of jackholes that almost nailed me with a drive.
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    Golf is out, biking is in

    Quote Originally Posted by wv_bob View Post

    I did once turn around and hit my ball back at a bunch of jackholes that almost nailed me with a drive.
    Lol, I just pick up that ball put it in my pocket and keep playing. If they saw me pick up the ball, they should have yell fore. Either way I want them to come and ask me for it. I don't throw my clubs either. I thought it was stupid for someone to do that.

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    RE: Golf is out, biking is in

    I like to run over their balls with the golf cart on 'accident'......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adim_X View Post
    I like to run over their balls with the golf cart on 'accident'......
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    I've never played a game of golf in my entire life. Everyone I know says I would be a natural since I am such a perfectionist. That's why I've avoided it and scuba diving... I'm afraid that I would like them too much.

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    Golf is out, biking is in

    Golf can be fun....if the person you are sharing a cart with clicks with your style. The problem for me is even if you go as a group, you only interact with your cart partner and maybe the other two in the foursome. It can be a long four hours if things aren't perfect. With cycling, even if you take a pleasure ride on an urban path, you can float in the group and "mingle". You can also position yourself so you are alone even if in a group. You can also adjust the pace even to the point where everyone can do it. I think this is why there are tens of thousands that participate in charity rides and only a relative handful in a golf outing.
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    Well I can say that I adore golf balls. One of my local workout riding loops passes by a golf course and I regularly find balls outside the property as I am passing by. I always stop to pick them up. I've found as many as 4 at a time.

    There's a great pleasure to be had hitting them with an aluminum baseball bat....WHACK!!!... talk about a hitting a home run EVERY time.

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    There is a good reason for this.

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    Just kidding

    Seriously though, I think several things factor in to this. Two of which are People becoming more health conscious and the fact that just about anyone can and has ridden a bike.

    Not to mention it is just fun and hip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wv_bob View Post
    I've know a few bike throwers, and even more club throwers ... but now that I'm thinking about it, the bike throwers were all golfers.
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    I went from golfing 2+ times a month to once a year.. at my company tournament. I got sick of shelling out $75-$500 per round just on green fees (yes, $500.. I would go to a few very nice courses throughout the year like a Pebble Beach or Pelican Hill). You spend that much just to play then more $ on balls, beers (lots of beers), tees, lunch, drinks afterwords, etc. So even at a dumpy course you are dropping over $100 for 18 holes that takes your whole day up and you are pretty much hungover by the time you get home. Spending my Saturday mornings riding then feeling great after that is much more enjoyable for me. Plus you EARN the beers afterwords and you have energy for the rest of the day (unless it's a huge ride). In the long run MTBing is cheaper for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    Well I can say that I adore golf balls. One of my local workout riding loops passes by a golf course and I regularly find balls outside the property as I am passing by. I always stop to pick them up. I've found as many as 4 at a time.

    There's a great pleasure to be had hitting them

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    The first time I gave up smoking many years ago I was golfing a LOT, and just wanted to chew down trees with my bare teeth every time I hit a bad shot... The second and last time I gave up smoking after giving up golf, and mountain biking more, it just improved my riding and I felt better! Something in that? Who knows, but I don't miss the golf, and the trees are happier...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    Well I can say that I adore golf balls. One of my local workout riding loops passes by a golf course and I regularly find balls outside the property as I am passing by. I always stop to pick them up. I've found as many as 4 at a time.
    Now you've reminded me of another story ... back when I was golfing, my bro-in-law and I camo'ed up and went in the woods just off a golf course gathering up balls that'd gone out of bounds. At one point a foursome of ladies came our way so we hunkered down to wait, then one walked over to the edge of the course right in front of my BIL, dropped her shorts, crouched and peed right in front of him.

    We told another BIL what we'd done so he decided to top us. If you've ever been to the Cincinnati zoo, you've probably noticed the driving range near the parking area. He went over and gathered up all the range balls he could carry and brought them back to me. He honestly thought they'd been hit out of bounds and left there, but couldn't understand why they all had a red stripe on them. I've got a shag bag and a couple buckets full of them here.
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    I'm the polar opposite of people on here. I'm too random in my biking so I'm a much better group golfer than I am a group biker. Golf definitely has a much easier pace to maintain as well. There's a thread in the Eastern Canada forum called "why do you or don't you belong to a club." As I answered in that thread I'm a loner because as I said, I'm random or spontaneous or something. My 'biking life' is represented by NEVER completing the goal I have in mind when I set out. Sometimes I set out to ride 500 miles and turn back 10 miles in. Other times I start out planning on a leisurely ride for an hour or so, but once I'm out the saddle feels great and the legs are working and I end up doing 50-60 miles instead.
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    I was never good enough at golf to group up with anyone except those who are pitiful at it like I am. Actually, that pretty much describes my cycling too, except I can do that alone while golf courses want you in groups of four so they can push as many people through as possible.

    FWIW my wife took up golfing when I played so we could spend some quality time together. She could hit the ball dead straight, while I had to aim about 45* to the right to even get close to the fairway. She'd never held a club in her life yet could beat me like a drum. I went back to biking, she doesn't do that so she only gets to laugh at me when I come home bloody.
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